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2:01 PM
Woah 8|
 
2:12 PM
@PraveenKumar deleted already
by owner I think
 
Yes...
Just now.
 
 
10 seconds.
 
@Seth Reacted. ;)
 
2:13 PM
I tried
 
@FrankerZ so hard
 
executionengineexception??? :o
 
:/
 
@PraveenKumar I seem to recall Shog or someone saying the exact opposite actually
'as long as the question is good/follows good question guidelines then who cares' or something along those lines
 
2:19 PM
@TylerH Er... That guy is asking to do use the work posting the whole question paper.
 
obviously the "I need this answer asap pls write me the program" questions are still not OK
 
@TylerH Such a kind of question this is.
 
Good HW questions are encouraged.
 
I'm just speaking specifically about the "we dont support homework questions" reasoning you used
 
Because it doesn't matter if HW or not.
Bad questions are discouraged because they're bad, not because they're based on a HW.
 
2:20 PM
Okay guys... Read and decide:
> all three tables are refrence each other ,now we want create multiple dynamic qustion using these three table like 'A Car is moving at the speed of 10 kmph. Find the distance travelled after 30 minutes' this question is in tbl_questions table now we want to genrate multiple question from both other table like at the place of car we will print 'bus','motorbike','train' using last two table, we can also replce 'is moving' in main question replace with 'is travelling','is going' like that.
 
If you dump your assignment on SO & ask for code ("Gimmeh teh codez plez"), that's not okay.
 
> please help, thanks in advance if u have any query then plese mail me on omigupta1988@gmail.com
Yea, this is such a dump.
 
@PraveenKumar I'm talking about the stance based on your CV-pls reason :)
 
@Seth Happy now?
 
The question is bad, but please use the semi-official CV-pls reasons, otherwhise it'll simply end up causing confusion :p
 
2:21 PM
@PraveenKumar much better :-)
 
@PraveenKumar Yes ^-^
Well, no.
Not until it's deleted.
But I feel better now c:
 
LoL... Help us... :D
 
1 message moved to Trash can
 
2:49 PM
Who is this? o.o Nvm
 
3:10 PM
nice
 
@Rizier123 -1.6k rep.... Lmao.
 
Wow. That was some puppeteering.
 
@Seth I'm not even sure if it stops there or if there will be some more reversed rep.
 
@Rizier123 That's a lot of work though... Holy hell.
 
3:21 PM
> You will be unable to vote, ask, answer, or comment.
(Taken from the timed suspension thing).
The real question here is: Will I be able to flag?
;o
 
> You will be unable to enjoy, eat, sleep.
 
@Rizier123 I moved the message to trash as we do not want to call out users. It could be construed as shaming and we do not want to do that. That was my failure for not saying something and instead making a joke.
 
(Taken from life.)
 
@Seth nearly 2k rep reversal and only a 7 day suspension
meanwhile some people are banned for like 5 years...
 
@TylerH Maximum is 365 days :D
Atleast it used to be that o.o
1-365 days or N-U-K-E-D
 
3:24 PM
@Seth Yeah. I have seen people suspended for 20+ years.
 
@Seth I've seen them suspended for multiple years
 
But yeah, I agree. Maybe a first time breach, who knows.
> Depending on the severity of the problem behavior -- and at the complete discretion of the moderator -- your account will be placed in timed suspension for anywhere from 1 to 365 days. That means:
ô.ô
Why would you go any higher anyway? :S
 
@Seth for impact
 
I think there was even a meta post about it once that someone was banned for like 20 years.
 
why jail someone for 7 years instead of 1? because of the severity of the crime
 
3:26 PM
@TylerH :S
But why?
They'll either give up on SO, or create a new account :-/
 
There are some people they do not want coming back so a 20 year suspension pretty much guarantees it.
 
@Seth they can apply bans a couple different ways
 
@NathanOliver Nuke & IP ban? :S
 
only the most committed of trolls work hard enough to make them pay regular attention
going to a public library and creating a new account or using a network of VPNs and different email providers
etc.
different browsers on different OSes, all of those things can help throw their things off your scent, but the staff has spoken (without divulging details of course) a bit about having pretty robust ways of blocking access thoroughly
If your answer scores 200 points do you get a second "great answer" badge?
or just one per answer
 
@Machavity I do not agree with the close reason. Looks like a lack of understanding and that is no longer a close reason.
 
3:31 PM
@NathanOliver k. Can bin it then I guess
 
#makestackoverflowgreatagain bring back lacks minimal understanding
 
I would like it but it is not nice
 
@Mag Feeling better btw?
 
@NathanOliver it is nice
it'd be mean if we said 'you're dumb" or something :-P
 
3:36 PM
@Tunaki I'll take a look at that post from earlier. Do you have something for this? I originally closed as dupe of creating a list over range of integers.
 
looking
 
@TylerH lol. Yeah it is not really mean but some people would think we are calling them idiots. It was removed here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/211080/…
 
@Tunaki I'm happy with that dupe, and reclosing.
 
@NathanOliver oh I know why and remember, I'm just stating my position :-)
 
No problem. I reject your position and substitute my own ;)
 
3:50 PM
I reject your rejection and substitute a new flower overlord to lull you into compliance with a spore powder designed specifically for your DNA
 
:)
All hail the hypno toad flower overlord.
 
Ha! I've configured my firewall to not pass any flower spores through
 
@NathanOliver It's a hypno Berlandiera lyrata.
 
@JanDvorak that's just the illusion that the flower spores have you believe.
 
@Feeds Let there be even more spearrel jokes
 
4:13 PM
The link at the end concerns me. Otherwise it is naa.
I'll stand behind that
 
@Tunaki Ya. These antibiotics probably were way overkill, but damn they did their job well
 
@NathanOliver it links to a persian site about (please google translate don't fail me now) architecture, so i guess it's spam
 
What to do with the following "question": stackoverflow.com/questions/39856731/… ? This is not really a question at all
Is simple close vote and downvote enough?
 
@dorukayhan Yeah. Not sure what it is about but I think spam flag is a good call here. It is a 1 rep unreged user.
@Shadow It is misguided but I do not think they are really trying to spam. I would close vote, down vote and delete vote.
I did just that btw
 
@Shadow too broad. the question boils down to "could you review all the code in this github repo?"
 
4:21 PM
@NathanOliver thanks, followed your steps
 
No problem. Do note that I do not advocate piling on down votes. If the Q is already at -3 or lower then there is really no reason to vote. You can if you want but once it is at -3 (and closed) 20Kers can delete so you can save that vote for another question.
 
He did 1 to many!
 
they are lively today
 
petter must be in nato
 
nope only in SOBotics
 
4:33 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis found another one
 
sorry, was caught up in something
 
@Tunaki Did the spearrel already start leaving traps around?
 
Everywhere!!!
 
@Nathan there's a typo in your recent meta answer from two hours ago. Third line, second word.
It should be "too".
 
4:35 PM
@Rubisco Let me add a sentence and make that message incorrect. Then you'll hate me.
 
I won't. I hate myself for that.
 
@Rubisco I had two, to/too fails :(
@PetterFriberg Just close and get rid of the question.
 
@NathanOliver Don't worry man, it happens to the best of us.
Me, I mean.
 
:) I never worry about it. The more I get called out on it hopefully the better I wil become.
 
4:39 PM
@NathanOliver I too had to fix two errors.
 
@NathanOliver Yse
 
HEY GUYS!! I hear Nathan is making some REALLY TERRIBLE typos. How about we create a wall of shame with all of them?
 
Woot \o/
 
@Tunaki I'm inn.
 
4:39 PM
lol
 
haha
 
I r being english general in kollage
 
All of the sins against the English language. The grammarian in me is writhing in horror.
 
^^ have fun with that one
 
oh man. So off-topic
 
4:42 PM
I guess I don't know much about Low Quality then stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/13871155
 
@kayess Some crazy things, you say?
 
@Drew Miss click?
 
@Rubisco Yeah pretty wild
 
@Drew it's a bit unclear, but I think I see the answer. Like it's suggesting two alternative approaches to a solution? Needs an edit really badly.
 
@NathanOliver nah, just didn't want a force deletion if that is how it works
 
4:44 PM
well there it went : )
 
oh. oops. I killed it.
 
@Drew hmm I re-read it and "you want to check the device id? not the version of the ios?" maybe means "you want to check the device id, not the version of the ios."
 
hiding behind Nathan
 
ah. Well I'm not sure an edit would have been enough, but there might have been a sliver of an answer there.
@Tunaki yeah, that's kinda what I got. No idea on the second link though.
 
Undeleted
 
4:45 PM
ah thanks. Mind making that edit Tuna?
 
@PetterFriberg erm, be nice : )
 
@Undo Thanks.
 
@ryanyuyu how about now?
That's still a stretch as whether it was the intent, but eh. I guess their keyboard replaced "." with "?".
 
It happens.
 
meeh I think that it has not much value basically the dup banner says same stuff...
 
4:48 PM
!!/blame
 
@Tunaki It's Petter Friberg's fault.
 
There ya go
 
Yeeeeeep
 
That looks good. Thanks @Tunaki
I think that puts the answer firmly into the "definitely an answer, but possibly not a good one" category.
 
yeah
 
4:50 PM
Tiny would be proud of me. Maybe just a tiny bit.
 
How far from roomba is that stuff?
 
+ infinity
 
Two miles and half
It can be regarded as infinity to a good approximation, yeah.
 
afk
 
4:53 PM
roboupvoters what a funny name
 
Wow real art here with all the hand drawn red and blue stuff :D stackoverflow.com/questions/39844309/…
 
It's a programming Christmas tree. \o/
 
one more to close
 
@PetterFriberg hello me from 3.5 years ago
 
4:58 PM
back when he didn't know any better
 
it's a bit pitty to close all these useful question, but that's the rulezzzz :D
 
I probably couldn't CV back then
 
well you came back with force...
 
Went from no vote to sledge hammer
 
Hello!
 
5:02 PM
\o
 
\o
 
@Olaf bbah, not blant spam.. lets delete vote it...
I will in a few day since poor 10K:er
 
@PetterFriberg It is a bit more clever than the typical spam, but nevertheless, I suspect this is some viral spam.
 
5:06 PM
@Undo Do you use Swift on Linux?
 
OS X, although I don't know what I'd use in prod
 
alright, thanks
 
lol
 
@Olaf user also have other activity on SO, so just a del vote can be nice!
 
5:11 PM
@Adriaan omg. The just broke it.
@Adriaan Going to make a meta post?
 
@NathanOliver should I?
 
I would but I was against the badge so I want to make a witty title.
 
@NathanOliver there. You can add a witty title if you like
ta
it's even Community's first badge
 
5:28 PM
Yeah. I wonder if we should tag it with support or bug?
 
I guess some SE dev will respond and then we'll know
@NathanOliver you up for TF2. or still at work?
 
Servy has a convincing answer but I still do not like it. A bot should not be able to get it.
Still at work. 3 hours to go.
 
5:43 PM
@FirstStep: If that is a dup, the dup is also too broad.
 
@Olaf But it has an "the" answer
 
Or do you mean there is one generic "too broad" question ;-)
 
lol I just could not find a better dup
 
Interesting: two nearly identical and quite specific questions within two weeks.
The 2nd dup is not that identical than the first. Same user?
 
6:04 PM
At least I'm getting points in Tomcat :V
 
6:44 PM
afk for lunch
 
waffle --- long path long story
 
When will the long path toll die?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Time to do some fun language detection
 
@NobodyNada bon appetite
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis any current java delete candidates
 
6:59 PM
back
 
7:17 PM
@Machavity @PraveenKumar @Rizier123 typo or dupe? I just went typo stackoverflow.com/q/39856664
 
@Drew typo.
 
@Rizier123 I was glad for the response over yonder without the gent getting mad at me
 
7:31 PM
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
7:43 PM
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 4 seconds, averaging to a review every 18 seconds.
 
@Drew in NATO let me pass an autocomment :D
 
@Drew It's a common PHP question (mostly people refusing to Google it) but it's not a dupe
 
@Machavity bah I could make that a dupe. But with YCS hanging around not interested
 
Crazy stuff
 
@Drew Yeah, I know. I agreed with YCS. I feel dirty
 
what the hell is going on?
 
8:03 PM
bots running amok
 
WHAT THE
 
Someone open a window. Smoke Detector is going crazy
4
 
9 messages moved to Trash can
 
oh no
 
8:04 PM
What happened @Undo?
 
@Undo Regex get messed up?
 
dev in prod
 
LoL okay... :D
 
lol
 
8:04 PM
one of smokey's filters is broken and it catches empty strings
 
lol
Is smokey alive or is it killed?
 
look at this report's reason
 
@Undo It must have been rene. He just pushes to production. You can fix the bugs after you make the deadline is his motto. :)
 
8:07 PM
@Undo The best kind of dev.
 
In my defense, it did work better than I thought it would.
 
@NathanOliver You mean the rene doctrine?
 
Meaning it got far enough to actually break stuff
 
@Machavity roflmao
 
I like this idea
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 mins ago, by ArtOfCode
"hey let's report EVERYTHING EVER POSTED EVER"
Take out the flame throwers!
 
8:19 PM
afk
 
Mod'd.
 
@Sam If you end up hosting FireAlarm, what OS would it run on?
 
Sam
8:34 PM
@NobodyNada Ubuntu 15.10
And I hope to have another crack at running it tomorrow.
 
at running what?
 
Sam
@NobodyNada FireAlarm
 
the C version?
 
Sam
Yes
 
ah, thanks! I'm trying to get the Swift version to work on Linux right now
 
8:36 PM
@QPaysTaxes there's a bunch of them there and some mod scripts kill comment links, have a rough idea of the username?
 
Sam
@NobodyNada np!
 
Sam
@NobodyNada Btw, can I just dump the bot's credentials in a file for it to read, instead of me entering them in via the terminal?
 
yeah, but you would have had a lot of fun searching for him :P
 
Sam
It makes running the bot in the background quite difficult.
 
8:38 PM
@Sam You can set them in the environment variables ChatBotEmail and ChatBotPass
 
@Sam Any reason you can't screen it?
that's what we do with Smokey
 
Sam
@NobodyNada Ah, great. Thanks!
 
@Undo Apparently he comes the first ... :D
 
Sam
@Undo I tend to just disown the process instead (or nohup).
But the bot hangs for some reason if I do that.
:p
 
@Sam Screen + github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/nocrash.sh is how we solved that with Smokey, although the auto-reverting thing might not be good unless you're really stable.
@QPaysTaxes I disagree with that. (warning, loud)
 
8:43 PM
I think I need a major help from SOCVR. Link-only cleanup list now has ~80 posts in "Open questions" section, but it looks like more than half of these are off-topic / recommendations. That makes it tough to progress further because most links I click now lead to answers not worthy of editing...
8
 
Sam
@Undo I see. But the bot hangs during initialisation, so not much use auto-restarting it xD
 
...I would much appreciate if you folks walk over that section and close all questions that obscure good stuff
 
Also, the second list, the one of closed questions, needs for the majority delete votes. So if 10kers could do a sweep, cleaning questions that shouldn't be deleted, or casting delete-votes, that'd be great.
 
@Tunaki I'm glancing at a few of the open questions. Should we be cv-pls the ones that need closing? Or just close vote and let the review queues handle them?
 
@ryanyuyu Nah, just vote to close, otherwise that is just going to spam. Other people will go through it.
 
8:50 PM
Ok cool.
 
@Tunaki worth noting that close votes on these expire quickly, in 4 days (old questions, many views). 20-30 of these questions that obscure editing have now my expired votes, quite painful to drag through them
 
Not sure how to CV this
 
@AndrewL. too broad or unclear
@Any10KUser did wingding "answer" this question?
 
or MCVE whatever...
 
> be stupid since I'm in 7th grade
Ugh...
 
8:58 PM
MCVE won :D
 
Typographical error? It's extremy basic python fundamentals
 
@gnat I edited this previously terse answer. How to mark that in the meta CW? It's the bottom-most jquery answer.
afk
 
@ryanyuyu remove it from the list
@gnat Happened a lot?
 
@AndrewL. I think so; it's not like he didn't know he had to indent; he just forgot to do it
 
-.-
 
9:01 PM
hmm in the question "Where is the indentation that i am missing?", but anyway probably a dupe...
True but not really typo.... but lets not have this discussion @Drew will kill me
 
@Tunaki expire happened 20-30 times. I think that's about half of close votes I cast during this cleanup
 
9:21 PM
@gnat Yes, I fell under a lot right now where I see I voted and that expired also...
I went through 80% of the list here, starting from bottom. All of those remaining are either very problematic answers to good questions, or questions that should be closed.
 
Maybe we need another strategy with cv-pls or event..., just wasting time to review is crappy
 
Will wait a day, and post a batch
Or
I'll finish my sweep, all that remains are 90% close-worthy
that's the batch
 
I have hard to delete vote some .... just to many up votes for a new bee like me
 
@Tunaki your cleanup of false positives is much appreciated. I recognised some of these, I recall willing to do something about them but could not figure what exactly. Guess I was too focused on editing, last bunch is rather tough, I have to use Wayback Machine a lot, and some of linked content takes much effort to pick the summary
 
9:36 PM
@PetterFriberg Vote only if you can defend your vote :)
 
Yeep, in fact since I also have few I'm trying to get the worst...
 
@gnat Yeah there are some that seem to be just unsalvagable... I left them for now, in case someone has any bright idea what to do. But now, the vast majority of those remaining should really be closed. I'll see if we can organize an event tomorrow to go through that list.
@PetterFriberg If you have the final vote, you can also delete the corresponding line from the post.
Less lines to go through means more people will be willing to do it :)
 
ok, but no more del votes now, I burn'em quick :D, will check the close list some
 
I tihnk I pretty much voted to del all of those already, except the ones that gnat later extracted into another answer for a potential lock.
 
10:02 PM
Bedtime cya all!
 
cya
 
@gnat @Tunaki why not just focus on the question side of your meta listing that shows open questions with a link to the answer. So the focus is on using resources against the question with a delete as the first wave. Ie stackoverflow.com/q/6843776 not the answer link
 
@Drew Yeah, I guess now that the bulk of the answers were handled, it would make sense. But how are we going to update them all? Manually?
 
You mean the meta list?
 
Yes
 
10:07 PM
I would be happy to, if you all want. If there is a link to an answer and a crew of us close the question, we have some other list that may need to age for 2 days and you have plenty of delete votes from like Petter and myself (again, the focus for all of that is on the Question side)
 
Hmm maybe I can work out a SEDE query, wait
 
I mean to first focus on the list from @gnat , not to introduce a huge new list
 
SEDE query to replace /a/{answerId} to /q/{questionId}
 
since we need to focus and not age, we could just say, here is the list, go top down, go to the top of the page and see if you can close vote the question ?
 
sounds good
 
10:11 PM
I mean, you are already on the page, Hit Page Up
 
lo and behold! Who needs meta-drama when you can have blog-drama?
 
@tuna too broad, unclear from the list? stackoverflow.com/q/3271441
 
@Braiam this can also be called opinion based...
 
@Drew I think I went Off-site resource.
 
@Tunaki no, you didn't :(
 
10:26 PM
> You voted to close this question Sep 24 at 19:12
 
>:(
 
can we review these 4 from gnat's list for potential question close? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/33276687#33276687
^ from gnat's list on meta
this stuff is conceivably a lot worse than GoDaddy. Tweak that query and we have 100k posts to look at
 
10:43 PM
seriously, if we expect any action on these big initiatives we need CV-MODs . No feedback on my (albeit rough) draft in the beehive . The song remains the same: close a ton and we don't have votes
 
don't forget to remove the questions from the list if you encounter some that are closed, or you think should be left alone
 
in this meta meta.stackoverflow.com/a/334916 from @gnat, to me there should be a third block of Closed Question Recommended for Deletion
 
the links would focus on the question id url and take the focus off the answer. No point in del votes on answers to a question we want to delete anyway (once it ages perhaps 2 days)
 
I'm out of CVs for today.
 
10:53 PM
@Drew You're talking about the answers that seem to be irrecuperable to otherwise good questions?
 
@Tunaki I am referring to a starting point of an answer url in that meta, that we decide the question should be closed and prob deleted. So ditch any focus on the answer and let's just see the Q thru to its grave
 
Well the ones remaining are really that for the vast majority
 
what is the termination point of this initiative? That list or the query up top
 
The list in the answer
When it reaches 0, effort is terminated
 
Also using primitives as a type parameter
 
10:57 PM
So how about the idea of a third block, because the 2nd block still points to answer links
If the ones remaining "are really that for the vast majority" then we need to focus on what we are probably asking like "hey wanna delete this thing in 2 days?"
 
Yeah, haven't had the time to work on the SEDE yet. Was fixing some bugs. Will look now.
 

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