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12:05 AM
@Drew Besides enjoying music, we should develop concepts and ideas for a frickin' better world, should we? IDK, but together we might get some ideas, and get them realized. Invited you at slack.
 
Thx. I have been going thru emails from last week. I am far behind my normal keeping up to date
 
sd i'm not sure
maybe f, but it definitely needs editing and i don't think i have the motivation to do that
 
A serious note for everyone listening Soft- and Hardware is going to rule the world seriously the next decades, don't miss it to be overrunned. Rather try to rule it in any directions.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ what about intermediateware like this?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I have entered your world of slackdom
 
12:15 AM
@dorukayhan Too poor.
We need concepts and knowledge to stand KI. It's far more than KI will achieve against humans. Let's be humans and social beings in 1st place. Emotions and gut feelings is what makes us superior compared to KI machines. Don't loose that Be HUMAN!!
 
I'm finally in front of Jon Skeet in something!
 
12:36 AM
@AndrewL. Sure? You should be in tune with Jon Skeet, not in front of them.
 
!!/coffee
 
@dorukayhan brews coffee for @dorukayhan
 
@AndrewL. here, have this coffee for overtaking jon skeet
 
!!/brownie
 
@AndrewL. Brown!
 
12:40 AM
@dorukayhan You are aware of my avatar ;)
 
Do stupid stuff faster!
 
1:24 AM
did a mod nuke this?
 
1:50 AM
no, looks like the flags and Community
 
@Drew I already got used to people not being able tell the difference between an rdbms and a spreadsheet...
 
2:06 AM
sup y'all o/
 
Hello!
 
!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com-
bye \o
 
Bye!
I forgot - meant silent :P
 
Took me a hour to write an answer. Guess I need to rewrite it completely
I suck at writing long texts :/
 
2:49 AM
what to make of this spammie thing stackoverflow.com/q/39360440
 
Kyll it with fire
 
@Drew TB at the very least
doesn't actually link so I'm content to let Roomba handle it
 
CVing is so fun! I love it =D
 
@dorukayhan Hard to say, but it looks like it. Mods spam flag just like we do, but their votes count as whatever the threshold is (i.e. 8 spam votes). So maybe 2 flags tops did that. Community is always the remover
 
We need a continue reading your damn tutorial close reason
3
 
2:56 AM
4 CVs on too broad ^
 
@tkausl Most of the bad PHP questions are from people who found old tutorials...
 
well
I kinda understand bad questions
But something like how would I declare a variable in c++
is just "i'm not gonna read a book, I'm gonna learn by asking on Stackoverflow"
 
pathetic
 
It's really sad
 
3:00 AM
The thing that gets me is how many people encounter an error and never bother to use a search engine. I dupehammer so many just by using Google to find the errors they have in the question
 
It's like their stuck in 1990 with no google :/
 
Had to sigh at this guy‌​. He's been whining in comments since the closure
 
user4639281
3:28 AM
guy needs a few tutorials
 
well he went from php 5 to 7 we didnt
might ponder ahead of time what is going to explode
 
user4639281
Or just... not. use. php.
 
that whole github link is loaded with PHP5 stuff
 
Also, why have flags when it automatically becomes a CV?
Why not just removed everything but spam/rude abusive/mod attention?
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. Because technically close votes are flags
 
3:37 AM
Yeah but there's a close and flag menu with exact same options. Why not remove those?
 
user4639281
Because it isn't actually the flag dialog that has the close reasons
 
user4639281
It's tricky, but when you click "should be closed" it opens the close dialog
 
Yeah I noticed.
Seems redundant
 
user4639281
So it's not duplication, its a shortcut
 
user4639281
You wouldn't imagine how many times I wished there was a spam option in the close dialog because I opened the wrong one
 
3:40 AM
^ agreed
 
user4639281
congrats on 3k
 
Thanks man :)
rude or abusive? ^
 
user4639281
I VLQ that kind of stuff, but we have been told that rude/abuse is ok too
 
Ok
 
user4639281
4:06 AM
I love sticky voting buttons so much
 
Huh?
 
How is this still not deleted o_o stackoverflow.com/a/39360858/5647260
 
user4639281
1. Go find a long question / answer 2. Scroll down 3. Mind Blown 4. Profit!
 
I just got on mobile. No user scripts for me
 
user4639281
4:09 AM
Awe darn
 
Oh, does the vote counter stay on the side?
 
user4639281
yeah so you can see it when you scroll down
 
That's actually amazing
I'll get it tomorrow :)
 
user4639281
SE came out with it a while back, everyone got their panties in a bunch, they removed it, I wrote a better one.
 
user4639281
The first little bit you get super distracted by it. Once you get used to it it is awesome. Then when you don't have it you feel like you're missing something
 
4:11 AM
I hate scrolling up on long meta answers
 
user4639281
I hate scrolling up on long answers
 
If only the app had this feature :(
The scrolling gets stuck on code bits because they scroll horizontally
Beat smokey to it!
Thanks @TinyGiant, I need privileges one of these days :(
-10 but still not 6 spam flags?!
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. soon enough
 
What do you guys think of doc dupes?
 
Well
 
4:23 AM
That request itself is a dupe I suppose?
 
As long as we can't close questions as duplicate of a documentation
we need some as good as possible question to use that
 
I cant understand why anyone would program like this or hibernate for java
 
I don't understand why anyone would program in PHP :P
 
java is the same way. You shoulda seen a hibernate orm question today. What misery
 
I'd muh rather program in Java than PHP
 
4:27 AM
it is the orm that is the issue. Has nothing to do with the language
 
user4639281
I'd much rather program in JavaScript than.... anything else
 
My top tag was Java until my JS suddenly boosted up 20 points or so
 
my top tag was corners and turtle
 
user4639281
Didn't we burninate corners and turtle?
 
y
 
4:30 AM
?!
 
it was a joke
 
I know
 
@TinyGiant JavaScript: The new write once, run anywhere.
 
user4639281
I know
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara It is the future of computing
 
4:32 AM
You can even write desktop apps with it!
 
user4639281
You can even write operating systems with it
 
really?
 
user4639281
 
It's funny, because that was the slogan for Java.
 
user4639281
 
4:34 AM
Oh my gosh...
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara I know :)
 
How should I flag that answer from smokey
 
Looks like spam to me.
 
user4639281
maps
 
"node-os is the first operating system powered by npm" confidence lost.
 
4:35 AM
LOL
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara Linux wasn't perfect in beta
 
user4639281
Who are we kidding, linux isn't perfect
 
@TinyGiant It's not necessarily npm itself that's the problem, it's the people running it.
 
user4639281
But it's a damn sight better than windows
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara Agree there
 
4:37 AM
Linux isn't perfect. It's just that windows is much less perfect
 
They've had a history of poor security practices, and the whole kik-vs-azer thing really showed their lack of professionalism and reliability.
 
@AndrewL. your dream has come true i.imgur.com/ujOrKY7.jpg
 
BoltClock and Brock Adams MVP!
 
user4639281
The last time I looked at os.js it wasn't available yet. The demo looks awesome
 
^ agreed.
I was just reading up on the azer and kik problem
 
user4639281
4:48 AM
I'm playing wolfenstein on os.js
 
@TinyGiant es6 thumbs up or down (as in should it be a focus for a newbie)
 
user4639281
thumbs up
 
This is still live btw, and I just realized it's old: stackoverflow.com/a/24826101/3155639
 
so spam or naa or 20k delvote?
 
It still looks like spam to me.
 
5:04 AM
I would say "spam"
Also, Hello
 
user4639281
Hello is a good thing to say
 
user4639281
spam too, but hello is better
 
Or should I say Hallo?
lol
 
user4639281
Or... plop
 
Hello TLM :)
pl-op!
I'm out for the night, see you all in the morning!
 
user4639281
5:08 AM
I just died in wolfenstein on os.js
 
user4639281
Night Andrew o/
 
Plop Andrew, Tiny
 
user4639281
Plop!
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
@TheL I know you can't see the comments that I have deleted (I think anyway, unclear on that), but I commented, and an OP improved their question!
 
user4639281
5:20 AM
I was kind of snarky about it, but you can't win 'em all
 
What is this friendly bin?
 
user4639281
it's a trash can, that is nicer than sending people to the trash can
 
@TinyGiant - I wouldn't worry too much about those.. Nowhere close to being rude
@TinyGiant - And yes, we can see comments deleted by you :)
 
user4639281
5:37 AM
K, what comments can't you see?
 
user4639281
deleted by other moderators?
 
I hate it when my modem decides to reboot... For no apparent reason.
 
user4639281
I used to have that happen all the time... then I got a different modem
 
@TinyGiant - I can see 'em all :P
 
I wish I knew what any of this meant: "SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing" then "Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance o" then "Modem Is Shutting Down and Rebooting..."
 
user4639281
5:40 AM
err... I believe I have been told before that there is a situation where deleted comments cannot be seen by mods, I can't remember the reference tho
 
Then maybe I could figure out what it's deal is.
 
Yeah, I've Googled them, but never found a definitive answer, or a proper explanation of the log entries.
 
user4639281
5:42 AM
I was just going to get to the lmgtfy link lol
 
Well, I know what "Modem Is Shutting Down and Rebooting..." means, but "no Unicast Maintenance o" ? "o" what? Is it truncated?
 
user4639281
sounds like it
 
I really hate black-box devices.
 
user4639281
> This account has been terminated for violating YouTube or Google's Terms of Service.
 
not surprising
 
user4639281
6:03 AM
no one likes my docs example. I hear all these complaints about how it is so easy to get rep on docs, then my example sits at zero for weeks lol
 
6:18 AM
@TinyGiant The only easy way to get rep on docs is to somehow wiggle a "substantive" edit (i.E fixing grammar at this point) into one of the ~10 top voted examples
I rewrote an entire C example when docs launched, and got 1(!) upvote since
 
user4639281
lol
 
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/39362070/…. I tried being kind here...
I tried being kind... Any help here?
 
user4639281
no oneboxes please
 
6:24 AM
@TinyGiant oneboxes == single link to question? (Haven't seen that expression before.)
 
Must be a bug from the early days...
 
@Cerbrus and neither sticks to the top?
 
user4639281
yeah expanded links, just put a character after it
 
user4639281
It saves space in the transcript
 
@TinyGiant Got it :)
 
6:25 AM
@Magisch Nope xD
 
user4639281
@StewieGriffin unsalvageable, move on
 
Morning
 
@Cerbrus meta post? That's really strange!
 
I flagged it for mod attention
 
6:27 AM
Maybe a mod will clean it up
 
@Cerbrus yeah bug i guess
 
Morning
 
user4639281
according to the timeline, they had the accept status when they were posted.
 
user4639281
There is no separate entry for the accepts
 
Maybe a really early-day bug that was never noticed...
 
6:29 AM
how to see timeline?
only 10k previlege?
 
user4639281
wrong copy pasta
 
That question doesn't have an AcceptedAnswerId.
 
user4639281
I'm guessing that somehow the accepted flag got tripped on them without an actual event for it. Blame a dev
 
haha
 
user4639281
6:33 AM
Last time I blamed a dev it turned out to be mr atwood
 
Voted to close the recently posted meta-post as duplicate @Cerbrus... meta.stackoverflow.com/q/334016/2338750
 
I'm guessing there's a duplicate vote entry, somehow.
Ah, hammered that closed.
 
user4639281
Dec 9 '15 at 19:53, by Tiny Giant
Some dev may have gotten ticked at seeing that phrase over and over again run a command to remove it entirely.
 
user4639281
Dec 9 '15 at 19:57, by Paul Roub
@TinyGiant Relevant: http://meta.stackexchange.com/a/93989/141629
 
6:46 AM
Adding a dot is an accepted Edit? stackoverflow.com/posts/39362491/revisions
 
What else would you call it?
> Plz answer my question...it's really in a hurry...
 
BTW why adding just a dot is approved?
 
He doesn't need it to be approved, he's got more than 2k rep.
 
So no quality check?
 
user4639281
6:49 AM
Nope, probably a Help and Improvement review
 
user4639281
Badges, gotta catch 'em all!
 
@Cerbrus I am not concerned on that
 
@Enzokie That link answers your question.
It's a link-only answer, but who cares, this is chat ;-)
 
> Tiny, trivial edits are discouraged
Even sensei is forbidden :3
 
Discouraged =/= forbidden
 
6:51 AM
haha yeah
 
Or, depending on your preference:
Discouraged != forbidden
 
@Cerbrus What I mean by that is sensei @TinyGiant
 
Personally I don't think that edit was worth their time, but eh, they weren't abusing it to bump some question.
 
Tiny is no sensei. He's just another user...
 
:'(
 
6:53 AM
Still a horrible answer, though
Any way, regarding that edit adding a "period": "Meh".
 
user4639281
Cerbrus: raining on parades since... a long time
 
It's what I do.
 
Will I get banned if I do the same?
 
Probably not. But since your edits will get reviewed, an edit like that will be rejected.
(Too minor)
 
Hopefully anyway, sometimes people robo-review...
 
6:55 AM
There are edit-bans, not?
 
And those people should be temporarily banned from reviewing.
 
plop
 
plop
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara Most robo-reviewers auto-reject, there are only known-bad suggested edit audits
 
Same answer as previous. Now he's spamming.
 
user4639281
7:02 AM
 
user4639281
My name's Blurryface and I care what you think
 
Morning everyone :)
 
user4639281
Night everyone :)
 
My name's wolf and I care what you taste like :P
Omnomnom
 
@TinyGiant Cya Tiny :o
 
user4639281
7:11 AM
My name actually isn't blurryface, and I really dont even believe that you do think, but the song is catchy :P
 
user4639281
@Seth Cya
 
@TinyGiant It's a song? I had no idea xD
 
morning @Seth
what means sd k btw?
 
It tells SmokeDetactor he's an "okay" bot :P
Jokes aside, it validates the spam report
"Yup, SD, this is indeed spam"
 
cool.thanks
 
7:20 AM
Oh, it also blacklists the user.
 
user4639281
@Cerbrus Twenty one pilots - stressed out
 
user4639281
Guaranteed that you've heard it on the radio at least once
 
Morning.
 
user4639281
Going to slèep now. Bye folks
 
@Cerbrus you mean it can blacklist a user?
 
7:22 AM
@TinyGiant Heard it quite often. Don't recall that line xD
Nite
@AndyK SD can, yes. "sd k" tells the bot to blacklist that user
> Marks a reported post as true positive and adds the poster to the blacklist.
 
so basically each time SD sees a spam
and we confirm it as positive-positive spam
it flags the post as spam and blacklist the user?
 
@Oldskool Morning o/
 
morning @Seth
 
@AndyK morning andy :D
Jesus Christ I'm tried >.<
Morning @BhargavRao
 
Hiya
@Seth Good Mornin!
 
7:33 AM
@AndyK It doesn't flag the post. We do that.
 
cool
intense guys, intense
 
Not spam. Bad Q.
 
@AndyK: SmokeDetector only detects possible spam. We can then validate the report.
If it's a valid report, we flag the question / answer as spam.
Nevermind
 
user177800
why are people trying to recover this crap - stackoverflow.com/questions/39363700/…
 
Because people are crap?
@JarrodRoberson: You seem to have a certain affection for that word... Imo, you may want to try to vary it a little.
 
user177800
7:38 AM
@Cerbrus yeah I think shit would be frowned upon ...
 
Junk, mess, low quality question, rubbish
 
user177800
@Cerbrus how about useless garbage of the willfully ignorant and lazy
 
I agree, but better not ;-)
That said, should that get undeleted / re-opened, ping me in here. I haven't voted on that yet :P
 
user177800
@Cerbrus I am a semantic pendant so I pick words for their specific semantic and crap is basically a more polite version of shit in these cases.
 
@Cerbrus trash, garbage, landfill material, tosh ...
 
user177800
7:41 AM
@Cerbrus it is synonym time at 3:45AM EDT
 
@JarrodRoberson But there are other words to describe a post as being of extremely low quality, other than those referring to excrements.
 
user177800
@Cerbrus I agree, but they do not convey the same semantic. :-)
 
But yea, better not have that discussion again :P There's that meta question.
Is the "Excrement" semantic really that important?
Really?
 
user177800
I see nothing wrong with the turd polishing comment and the powers that be with the diamonds don't seem to either as I have not been reprimanded by them.
 
That doesn't answer my question.
 
7:44 AM
I needed to ask to understand, @Cerbrus. Thanks for your very precise explanation
 
@AndyK You're welcome
 
user177800
@Cerbrus yes it is important because of cheech and chong
 
@JarrodRoberson wut
@JarrodRoberson: I'm guessing the undelete-vote on that question you linked earlier is from that 78k answerer.
 
user177800
@Cerbrus Dog Shit Sketch, to paraphrase them, Looks like shit, smells like shit, feels like shit, tastes like shit, must be a shit quesiton, good thing we did not answer it
 
I didn't know questions have a taste / smell
 
user177800
7:48 AM
@Cerbrus it is what is called a metaphor. And code does have a smell, after 30+ years I can smell shit code and shit devs from a mile away
 
Don't take all of my comments literally, buddy :P
 
user177800
@Cerbrus I am on the spektrum, everything is literal :-)
 
I just don't understand why the "excrement" semantic meaning is that important.
Just call it "low quality" and be done with it...
Heck, make it "appalling quality" if it's that bad
 
user177800
@Cerbrus because it causes an emotional response in neurotypicals because of that exact semantic. It underscores the opinion and the sentiment. it proves that semantics are important.
 
user177800
it is time to get ready for work and real life later
 
7:52 AM
@JarrodRoberson You just said "It's important because it's important"...
 
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
breaking the train
 
breaking the train
... Or am I? Paradox much?
 
8:04 AM
That is one massive dog
waits for the tuna-rage
 
really
 
8:19 AM
o/
 
\o/
 
Liar, I wasted a click
 
Yes!
 
8:31 AM
Good job guys! keep it up! :D
 
@TimCastelijns Sue him!
 
@NinjaPuppy you sounds like an American
 
That's wear and tear for the mouse and your time, costs of internet traffic etc...
 
8:38 AM
(don't forget the psychological trauma and fees for the shrink etc...)
I reckon you can get at least $100k... just don't forget my 20% for the suggestion :p
 
@Tunaki VLQ though
 
meh
 
Hey Ninja Puppy
 
morning
 
8:46 AM
@Magisch Oh hey - that's Bob!
 
@Queen k
 
@Tunaki Someone flagged that as spam...
As in, that chat message.
 
Grrr, You dont flag spam as spam
 
what?
sigh
 
haha
 
8:57 AM
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