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12:05 AM
Félix Gagnon-Grenier has started reviewing!
@NobodyNada I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
what, I started already
oh, UTC midnight
 
12:24 AM
NobodyNada passed an audit!
 
haha, I recieved an audit from a tag that was in my filter...and it tagged it with another tag from my filter
 
12:37 AM
NobodyNada passed a audit!
NobodyNada passed a audit!
@NobodyNada You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 38 minutes and 50 seconds, averaging to a review every 58 seconds.
 
@Closey room stats
 
@NobodyNada 6 members (6% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 170 review items today, which accounts for 153.15% of all CV reviews today.
 
@Closey room stats details
 
@NobodyNada Today, 2 members have reviewed a total of 42 items.
 | User                 | Review Items Today |
 |-------------------------------------------|
 | NobodyNada           | 40                 |
 | Félix Gagnon-Grenier | 2                  |
 
you guys almost certainly knew this already, but it looks like the 170 in room stats is incorrect (caching?), while the 42 in room stats details & the total number of reviews aren't.
 
Rob
1:05 AM
@NobodyNada I think it's because one of them uses 'today', and the other 'last 24 hours'
But I think it's a known issue either way
 
1:36 AM
@Undo I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
 
1 hour later…
2:51 AM
@NobodyNada I heard you were making a bot in C.
Even I was planning to make one in C.
What's your's about?
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 562 posts.
 
@Yam die
 
Yam
@AshishAhujaツ You need to be a room owner, moderator, or Sam to kill me.
 
:(
Such a picky bot
 
3:16 AM
Bye! Will come back after breakfast
 
3:33 AM
Plop!
 
Ian has started reviewing!
Ian passed an audit!
 
3:51 AM
Ian passed an audit!
 
I'm feeling so scary. Only me and the bots are here! And bots cannot be trusted :P
 
4:12 AM
lol
 
Hiya @Jon
Thank you for giving me some company here. Otherwise I would've just freaked out :D
And who know what the bot's would've done
 
I'm not much company right now I'm afraid - have a trip to an onsite contract shortly - get getting ready for that
I think the bots are okay though - they're not exactly skynet and going to come kill you at some point :p
 
:(
But bots can do anything :P
Which includes both good and bad, so you can never be sure :D
 
Ian reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits)! The time between Ian's first and last review today was 56 minutes and 51 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 25 seconds.
 
@KhalidHussain Checking
BTW, Hiya
@KhalidHussain Yes, it looks like tool rec. But it looks like it could even be migrated to DBA SE. I would still go to close it.
 
Rob
4:49 AM
You need to click the share button to link to an answer :)
 
@Rob Yeah.
 
Rob
Otherwise it's a bit confusing when taking a quick look
Anyway, flagged it as well
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
@Tunaki @Sam @gunr2171 @Kyll @NathanOliver ^^^
 
5:01 AM
\o/
 
user3956566
@KhalidHussain flag it as spam do not close vote spam
 
@Yvette ok
And I will try to raise max 5 cv-pls per day :p
 
user3956566
@KhalidHussain it was an idea to cut down the requests, when you've done that for a bit, maybe increase it up to 10, you'll find people are happier to vote on them :D
 
user3956566
bye
 
5:30 AM
Wingding's back again...
 
@AshishAhujaツ It doesn't have any useful commands since I can't think of any, but it is a working framework that supports joining a room, reading messages, interpreting commands and posting/replying to messages.
 
Yay! Another kitty in the team... @NobodyNada o/
Meaow...
 
We could both work on the bot if we wanted to, or I could upload the code and you could use it to make your own bot, but our time zones don't seem to line up very well.
Anyway, it's 10:30 here and I am going to sleep. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier; I'm at church Sunday mornings and evenings.
 
6:33 AM
Looks fishy to me...
Answered just 10 seconds and two up votes.
 
user3956566
@SmokeDetector @Mogsdad you blacklisted a user who has been on the site for nearly 7 years
 
Plop!
 
Morning all \o
 
6:54 AM
\o/
 
@Yvette yes, that is exactly it, thanks for putting that in my head ... again.
@Yvette that is true but from the transcript I learn that it was not an incident but multiple answer only promoting their own product, at least that is the reasoning @Mogsdad followed. Maybe a custom flag would have been better as suggested by Petter. I tend to abuse blacklisting when I want to have the next new post of that user reported...
I'm low on battery
That sounds weird
and I'm back
 
@BhargavRao no
is a me too
 
Not much poo today, 30 NAAs since tuna's last flag.
 
user3956566
7:14 AM
@rene ah I see
 
@rene "...I dont want to use any third party api." - How is that an Off-Site Resource request? Too broad - yes.
 
Cindy Meister has started reviewing!
 
@NisseEngström It's not, I think, it should still be closed, it's effectively "gimme codez"
 
@NisseEngström I reckoned the give me solution could fall under that where I read it as tutorial but after I already casted my vote I felt too broad had been a better option, hence my suggestion but I didn't want to hide my screw-up
 
Cindy Meister passed a audit!
 
7:22 AM
@rene Madara nailed it.
 
That is why he has a diamond ...
I'm only blurry ...
 
Cindy Meister passed a audit!
@CindyMeister You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 18 minutes and 45 seconds, averaging to a review every 28 seconds.
 
8:02 AM
Plop!
 
Pwop.
 
8:16 AM
hmm the famous one, posting NAA which is the way to go?
I have no doubt it is to usual abuse, but the post is NAA
 
8:29 AM
@PetterFriberg Just nuke it
 
user3956566
that one obviously knows how the site works
 
8:51 AM
@PraveenKumar please stop feeding the troll/spammer
 
Hiya @MadaraUchiha
@Kyll You filed that 2 letter username not pingable bug-report?
 
@AshishAhujaツ you can't ask for deletion is it isn't down voted. You can flag but you don't need to advertise that in the room because more flags doesn't speed up the process
or you have the luck of a moderator lurking here ...
 
@rene Okay. So if I downvote, then I can post a [del-pls] here?
And it's score is <0
 
@AshishAhujaツ If it is a really crappy posts that wouldn't get deleted by the normal review queue you can request it. I leave it to you if you down vote or not.
 
9:04 AM
Hiya
 
The LQ is not much of a problem for obvious cases like the one you linked. Every sane reviewer in the LQ would have voted to delete that. And there are enough reviewers to handle that. That leaves us with the borderline cases, utter crap that can't wait any longer. We don't have unlimmited del votes, better use them for stuff that needs it beyond the normal queues
 
@KhalidHussain I'd go for too broad.
This is pure spam but not a new user, so not reporting stackoverflow.com/a/37249895/1743880
 
9:25 AM
@Tunaki ... Why not?
 
@Tunaki I'm blacklisting. I agree do not report, but blacklisting is important.
 
@AshishAhujaツ User blacklisted (3418508 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@Kyll You filed the bug-report?
 
@AshishAhujaツ Not yet
 
Okay
You want me to do it?
I have an hour free
 
9:27 AM
Nah, I'll do it =p
 
Plop Thaillie
 
Morning o/
 
Morning
 
NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/37248067/1743880 <-- warning, quite long
 
9:31 AM
By seeing how long it is, I just gave up :D
 
@Tunaki Hiya
 
@Tunaki I would say NAA.
 
Hiya @BhargavRao
 
@AshishAhujaツ hello \o
 
I just noticed a user who had edited a post yesterday I was interested in has been suspended today for "voting irregularities", until 14 July. I've seen this before, but then it was a suspension of a week, not two months. What could be the reason the penalty is more severe now?
 
9:35 AM
@Adriaan If a user repeatedly does not follow the rules of SO, he is suspended for a bigger period of time. That must be the case with your user
 
don't spam the Java tag!
 
@AshishAhujaツ k, thanks
 
Sam
I haz returned
 
Hiya @Sam
 
Hiya o/
 
9:37 AM
Hello Sam o/
 
hello
 
Sam
\o/
 
Seeing that thank you answers also get upvotes, I think even I'll start writing them.
 
why are those spam companies (almost) always from India?
 
Sam
No no no, @Tuna 4k is all the rage atm. Not 2k.
 
9:47 AM
@Adriaan Manual spam / Automated spam
 
@BhargavRao of course, but an American company could as well write a bot to do that.
 
Manual spam from India - Lot's of computer literate labour force
 
@Sam Sorry, I don't understand that. Use jokes for a list of jokes Tunaki understands
 
Automated spam caught by spam filters
 
@BhargavRao ah, that makes sense
 
9:49 AM
@Adriaan Yep, It'll be caught before it comes to the site
 
Sam
@Tunaki Yeah, I thought most people wouldn't get that.
4k as in the screen resolution...
 
@Adriaan - We actually have a Joke. In a particular city in india, if someone throws a stone (without aiming at anything in particular), it will either hit a software engineer or a dog :P
4
 
What event is going to happen in the testing facility 11 minutes from now? I just got an automated ping for that.
 
Sam
Nothing, just ignore it.
 
Sam
9:51 AM
It's called a "Testing Facility" for a reason. ;)
 
lol
 
I left the room and still got the ping :p
 
If you receive a strange letter in a couple of days, don't worry. It's from the "testing facility".
 
@Sam I know that some testing is going to happen in that room. I meant that what testing will happen there.
 
Who on earth schedules events in the SOCVR Testing facility ... oh wait ...
 
Sam
9:53 AM
@AshishAhujaツ AFAIK, nothing's going to happen. We always add random events to the testing facility.
 
Sam
Last I knew, rene was trying to emulate the event creation interface.
 
@Sam Is Pham coming back? I see that you tested it in the testing facility.
 
Sam
@AshishAhujaツ This was Pham's original calling, his life long goal. However, I'm busy building other stuff atm so it'll be a while before you see him in action again.
(I am using him for other projects in the meantime, though.)
 
10:08 AM
Do we have to flag for migration to Code Review?
There's no standard migration path right?
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Q: Can this this VBA be streamlined even more with regard to processing speed?

Wayne LouwrensI would like to know from you guys (the experts), if the below VBA can be streamlined even more to process faster, at the moment I am running on average 9hrs to complete a sheet (800 000 lines), and I have quite a few to get through. Running on 3 computers already to get ahead of the work. Any he...

 
Hello @MacroMan o/. No, there is no built-in migration for Code Review.
 
Hey @Tunaki \o
Cheers, I'll flag it then :)
 
It might need to be reworded a little to be on-topic for Code Review though.
It isn't clear if the code is really working.
 
nvm, in the time I asked that it had already been migrated!
 
or you can get help from lurking mods also, that works.
 
10:11 AM
yeah mod had moved it over
 
at least the "kind regards :)" could've been removed
 
I haven't got unrestricted editing on CR otherwise I'd have done it myself
 
I'll do it.
... and ninja'd.
 
As Tuna pointed out up there, it's preferable that stuff gets reworded and edited to contain no fluff and correct English before migrating stuff.
 
My first 2 rep on Code Review :)
 
10:20 AM
@Sam event creation interface sounds better than crappy userscript that breaks all the things
 
Sam has a way with words.
 
Sam
I thought that was my job, "make everything that rene builds sound amazing".
 
@BhargavRao Not sure this one is NAA stackoverflow.com/a/37251162/1743880
answer edited directly in the question, huh.
 
Sam
@AshishAhujaツ It's an attempt to reply.
 
@Tunaki Comment on another answer stackoverflow.com/a/30053420/4099593
 
Sam
10:22 AM
In a weird way.
 
@BhargavRao ooh, nice catch
might want to comment it
 
@Sam Okay, but an edit which adds a complete answer to a post defaces it.
 
More specifically this is a comment on this answer by [Pablo Karlsson] who is not the OP of the post. — Bhargav Rao 57 secs ago
 
Sam
@AshishAhujaツ Well yes, but that's why we have the "attempt to reply" reject reason.
 
Sam
10:24 AM
It's specifically for these kinds of edits.
 
waffles
 
Sam
The vandalism option is better suited to "replies" that are just garbage/offensive.
 
That is a bit weird: stackoverflow.com/a/37251532/1743880 - 8 minutes, 2 upvotes, accept, first answer.
 
Sam
I can't english today.
@Adriaan Thanks.
 
@Tunaki looks like a comment which prompted the OP to look at that, which solved the problem
 
10:27 AM
@Tunaki sockey of the OP, 7 votes cast by the answerer, 7 votes received by OP today
 
Thanks detective. Mod-flag?
^ it was also upvoted so there's a loose end.
 
I can't flag because I've run out of flags :(
 
@BhargavRao how... how did you even know that
too much magic
 
Sam
Tiny must be near.
 
10:31 AM
@Tunaki You're flaggin for Mod Attention?
 
I hate loose ends.
 
@Tunaki Yep, Magic is the answer. :D
 
@BhargavRao Not sure, the reversal script will take of it no?
 
@Tunaki Why mod flag when a mod is here?
 
@Tunaki Guess we'll leave it for 2 days
 
10:32 AM
@Tunaki No
Too little.
 
10 upvotes in less than 13 minutes. That's too little?
 
But I am still curious of the second up vote, There's another sock running loose. It needs some time to catch that.
 
@Tunaki 10?
 
Sam
@Tunaki You dare to question our unicorn overlords?
 
I count 2
 
@Tunaki No stalking!!
rene rule 1234
 
@Sam No, no, never! Please don't kill me, it wasn't me, I swear!
 
@Tunaki Yup. smelly.
 
Damn, User Madara'd even as I was researching.
 
lol
 
10:35 AM
Hiya @Ferrybig
 
Morning
 
Sam
@Tunaki They demand a waffle sacrifice.
 
@MadaraUchiha Psst, There are 2 users :|
 
Sam
@Ferrybig Hiya
 
@BhargavRao Hmm?
 
10:36 AM
@Ferrybig Hiya
 
@BhargavRao Poofed also.
@Ferrybig Hiya
 
first CV request.

I am impress.
 
@MadaraUchiha You Madara'd one, The only post of that user had 2 votes. The user had cast 7 votes, The original account had 10 votes. So inference is that there's another sock out there
 
Another loose end.
 
@BhargavRao The sock had 11 votes against the now suspended puppetmaster.
 
10:37 AM
@MadaraUchiha Ah, Blame caching?
 
Blame caching I guess.
 
The vote counts cache too? TIL
 
Caches everywhere!
 
@MadaraUchiha haha - haven't seen that one until now.
 
@BhargavRao Very.
 
yeah
 
@BhargavRao Yup
 
Also check the comment on that (^^) question. Seems fishy
 
10:54 AM
thoughts on this?
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Q: Creating a Connection String in excel VBA

BabuMy connection string fails with the error "Invalid Connection String Attribute" ConnString = "Provider=sqloledb; Server= datawarehouse; Database= Customers; USERID= Span1;Password= Span2;"

 
please limit your one-box, just link to the question
 
sorry, hit the enter key before pasting
fat-fingered it
can I edit my own posts in chat?
 
@MacroMan In some time of the message being posted
After that time, it's locked
 
there's a 2 minute window
 
@AshishAhujaツ Ah yes, I see it now on my last post
was just going to say it's a quick window...
 
11:00 AM
Bye
 
actually, probably "unclear" is a better fit
 
yes, I picked that one
 
yeah, I immediately went for opinion based due to "Thought I'd see what ideas people had" but after re-reading I don't actually know what is being asked...
at least one of us reads things properly :)
 
11:17 AM
If anyone wants to tell this guy why we need to close dupes, please feel free... meta.stackoverflow.com/a/323101/4014959
 
Out of flags, NATO abandoned.
afk
 
Cya
 
Sam
Cya
 
@PM2Ring I see it's heavily downvoted - but left my comment nonetheless.
 
@MacroMan Thanks for that. Hopefully, the downvotes will make him realise that his opinion is not popular among those of us who are trying to keep SO tidy and useful.
 
11:33 AM
Well, he's entitled to his wrong opinion. Varietas delectat:P
 
Morning
 
@PM2Ring That's the thing about common sense - it's not that common
 
The thing is... it is hard to find duplicates, the real reason for it is the Stack Exchange "frequent" system, which is simply not working as intended. If there was a proper FAQ for each of the major tags, we would close duplicates in seconds.
 
no, the real reason is the crappy search engine
if you stop using it, life becomes much easier:)
 
I doubt that's the problem, because no search engine can understand the contents of the posts.
 
11:36 AM
of course
but introducing a human-to-seach-engine translator (i.e. you), the same search on google will prove much more fruitful than the same search within SO
 
The C++ tag has this special snowflake exception from the rest of SO, with their C++-FAQ tag. It works very well. Now imagine if all tags had a user-created FAQ, per site design. That would be awesome.
 
I guess. But then there would be a lot of friction about what should and should not be in the FAQ
FWIW, we've started collecting canonical/typical posts in , I just haven't gotten to putting them together and adding to the tag wiki
 
Well it is like the meta faq. we want conicals in it.
 
That could be solved by for example giving all gold tag users the right to vote on a post, if it should be a FAQ or not.
 
@NathanOliver "we" do, but "hey I wrote this great answer, it should be included"
and hey, community efforts!:P
 
11:40 AM
Like a special vote system only visible to gold tag users.
 
Isn't this what they are trying to solve with docs-beta.stackexchange.com/documentation?
 
The docs project rather sounds like an attempt to spew random technical documentation of diverse quality all over SO...
 
@Lundin the intention is to collect an actually useful documentation base, as a lot of things don't have that (I'm told CUDA is one of them)
I've also struggled with the docs of opencv when I wanted to use it in the past
other things like native python and MATLAB (from what I'm familiar with) have great documentation, so this whole SO Docs thing is of less importance there
 
Well then it won't solve the FAQ problem, because every major programming language tag for example, should have tons of external, canonical documentation, and in addition, some nice "canonical duplicate" posts here on SO...
 
I agree, docs won't solve the dupe issue
well, from what I've seen on meta about the beta, it won't even solve the docs issue:P
but that's another story, and I'm not following the events closely
 
11:45 AM
@MacroMan :) Good point. But surely it doesn't take great insight to appreciate why it's desirable to have the answers to a question concentrated in one place...
 
sigh, day is starting out well: i copy this code why won't it work? Umm.. because you did not copy the code exactly. You are trying to compare apples to oranges*
 
What I do myself is to keep a FAQ with "favourite" questions and then use those as dupes. Much better than searching. Saves time and you always get the best duplicate, instead of some random one you found through searching.
 
FWIW, in the Python chat room we maintain a collection of canonical dupe targets. It's not perfect, but it's getting better. — PM 2Ring 21 mins ago
 
I use my favorites as a dupe repository.
 
Yeah so everyone uses their own little FAQ instead of having a unison, public one. That alone suggests the need of a proper FAQ system.
 
11:51 AM
@Lundin Certainly. Unified FAQ base > individual tag FAQs > personal FAQs > frantic Googling
 
... > frantic SO searches > answering every crap that one comes across :P
 
:)
 
Hiya @NathanOliver @AndrasDeak @Lundin @PM2Ring
 
Hi tuna
 
Sam
Hi tuna
 
11:54 AM
Hi tuna
 
Greeting, Tuna.
 
We need to get Watson running on SO. He could find all of the dupes.
 
I say go for Sherlock
 
Is that really a thing?
 
I don't think so
but Sherlock > Watson, right?
(what's whats on?)
 
11:57 AM
@Lundin Yes. Right now my list is my browser history that auto-completes when I type a few words :)
 
@AndrasDeak Ah. I was referring to this Watson
 
much better than SO search.
 
@NathanOliver ooooh, I see, thanks. I heard of him, but forgot, and also didn't associate on sources outside SO:)
 
of course, if I clear my cache, it all goes away.
 
11:59 AM
Google often works better than SO search too, because SO posts rank high up in Google...
 

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