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Sam
@JAL It shouldn't do.
@KingIsaac I want my free hug!
 
Hey!
what about mine? :(
 
Sam
You can hug Closey. :p
@JAL I guess you've found a bug then.
 
All right. I didn't have the courage to do the 50.
Closey is more important.
And eating.
 
Sam
7:15 PM
And breathing.
 
just not eating closey hopefully ;)
 
Petter Friberg passed a audit!
 
@NathanOliver Breathing Closey
 
@clo my stats
 
7:19 PM
@PetterFriberg You've reviewed 23 posts today (of which 1 was an audit). The time between your first and last review today was 40 minutes and 21 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 45 seconds.
 
What just happened?
 
hmmm
Pro testing something me thinks
 
@PraveenKumar me finding a post that hasn't been reported yet
 
@Undo Sure... Sorry.
 
its a smokey post : ), the bot has started to ask questions so Undo reported it : )
 
7:24 PM
@undo while you are here do you have a minute?
(not mod related)
 
@NathanOliver Sure
 
customer support redirects questions to StackOverflow even when they're about licensing/pricing hence off-topic for SO What are the commercial options for the SlideShare API?
 
@Undo So I heard SO is looking at incorporating smokey into the site. Does that mean they would be adding how smokey works into their spam detection algo?
 
@NathanOliver I know as much as you do
 
@NathanOliver Whoa really?
 
7:26 PM
okay. I just figured if I saw you I would ask.
 
 
That's . . . really noice
@Undo That's theoretically and statistically impossible.
 
lol
 
He probably knows more.
 
he's a dog. Dogs know more than they let on to.
3
 
7:28 PM
@NathanOliver Some context: A month or so ago, we put together some fairly thought-out plans for automated flagging. We asked CMs for a seal of approval, and didn't really hear much back.
 
I bet he know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop.
 
This might just be a "yeah you can do that", maybe with a perk of automatically getting the assoc bonus on all the sites or something
 
And now you heard much back?
 
@Undo Who is we? mods or charcoal?
 
These are good news on the internet but I dunno why I'm happy in real life too.
 
7:29 PM
@NathanOliver Charcoal
 
"and didn't really hear much back." Sounds similar to what we did with burnination.
 
Or it might be something really awesome, like a way to tell the system directly that Smokey thinks something is spam. Not sure.
 
@NathanOliver That message is not a report.
 
7:29 PM
But yeah, I haven't been contacted at all about it. Excited, though ;)
 
cool
It would be really nice if they did integrate it.
 
@user2314737 that post is not on topic (sorry, it took a while for the cv-plz generator to work)
 
@NathanOliver Depends on how it's done.
Smokey works because Charcoal can be agile.
If we have to lose the ability to tune filters on the fly, it might be a net loss.
 
I'm hoping they make it a mod run/configed tool
 
@gunr2171 I thought so too
 
7:32 PM
the first comment is also a good custom close reason
 
Do SO have a way to delay the posts?
 
@PetterFriberg question ban?
 
@PetterFriberg there have been many meta posts about that, from a timed delay to another queue that you need to clear before going live. None of them have been very sucessful.
 
Because with automatic flagging and delaying the post I guess a lot of spam would be caught
 
I don't think we could keep up with about 10,000 Q's per day
 
7:33 PM
@NathanOliver At least a few folks are awesome regex writers and aren't mods
 
True. Mogs and tiny have some good regexfu.
 
Some people correct you, other people s/correct/you/
 
They help you become the correct you.
 
They get u to the real you
 
They provide free flags for you
 
7:37 PM
@NathanOliver in some cases, to the complex you.
 
have you guys read Nick's blog post yet? It's long but really interesting
2
 
nice color scheme on that blog
 
Sam
> New York. Less smelly than the old York
 
And you're British, so that's a burn to you
 
Sam
At least I don't actually live in York. :p
 
7:40 PM
I think HNQ should be killed.
 
Look, if everyone in the world associates all Americans with "Texas" and hillbillies, then I can make assumptions that you are from York, and are smelly.
 
I thought French were the smelly ones? :(
 
That's just the cheese
 
@Sam, I've always imagined you to be Northern American. I apologize:(
 
See, it's funny. Sam is from England. I'm from New England. So version 2.0.
 
7:42 PM
time to roll back?
 
No. Sam is from Britanny. And I know people that live in Great Brittany. So version 2.0.
 
@gunr2171 Unless it’s Emacs, then consult a doctor immediately.
 
that's funny.... or not. Wikipedia doesn't agree with me :(
 
@Mogsdad that whole paragraph is great
 
@gunr2171 Words to live by, in fact.
 
7:51 PM
@Tunaki I finished going through page 2 of . I'm going to eat lunch now, but I'll try to be back for Clear the CVQ.
 
bah I couldn't finish my page... Closey called me and I couldn't resist.
An accepted but very wrong answer to a HNQ went to +12. Even when there was a +8 or 9 comment just below saying "this is completely wrong".
 
Does HNQ do anything good besides clickbaiting?
I'm sure it's there for financial reasons.
 
Probably. Makes you visit the network.
 
0 CV I'm out cya
 
Cya
 
7:56 PM
@AndrasDeak at least it's good quality click bait with a low spam/ad presence.
 
Same, 0 CVs :-(
 
what scared me most was the combination of 2 things: 1) answer that kept getting upvotes despite multiple comments pointing out it was non-sense 2) comment pointing out the fatal flaw kept getting upvoted too, but the answer wasn't downvoted
 
@Tunaki I think the problem with HNQ is that most people don't have downvote privileges
People active in the community have the required 125 rep to downvote
 
I'm not sure about that
 
Hmm possible
 
7:59 PM
nobody downvotes an "interesting" post
 
But as a HNQ you get a lot of 101 rep people who "signed up just to upvote this question"
 
some people say "meh, whatever" and "meh, this is stupid"
and lots of people say "whoah, <awesome buzzword>, and it's in a sentence! +1!"
 
Also apathy like Andras says.
 
Apathy? Meh.
 
lol
 
8:01 PM
I think it should die.
There was a Java no-repro question hot all day. Kept getting "Wow incredible" when there was really no problem to start with.
 
well chances are already high that a post is bike-shedding-caliber if it makes HNQ
 
The Java equivalent of "Q: are cartoons melting kids' brains? A: No"
also known as small town local news
 
"PHP programmers hate him!"
 
It was "Hey I'm building a 2 billion long String and when I print it, nothing happens". Well duh. Your IDE isn't going to print a String with 2 billions columns...
 
@NathanOliver that's a really sad state of affairs. So many negative scores.
 
8:05 PM
@ryanyuyu thats FGITWers for you. The answers they have provided should in no way fix the code the OP has shown.
 
Dam I wish Java peeps would downvote as much as those C++ peeps.
 
@Tunaki That's not how RW'ing works.
 
Karma strikes again.
 
:(
 
@NobodyNada I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
8:06 PM
@Tunaki It might, (eventually), if repaints are disabled before and enabled after, to stop the input message queue overflowing.
 
JAL
@NathanOliver really tempted to edit the rant out of that one answer, although I know it won't do any good
 
Oh btw
@Closey start event
 
@Tunaki Since we ++ we can --
 
hunny?
 
There are 19 questions in the queue.
 
8:06 PM
@NathanOliver I "c" what you did there.
 
@Closey commands
nooooooooo she ran away
 
@JAL same here. I just decided to leave it alone.
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak np
 
!!/blame
 
@Mogsdad It's NobodyNada's fault.
 
8:07 PM
Sounds right.
 
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITHOUT HER????
 
Makes sense for once.
 
Sam
@Clo alive
 
@Tunaki sometimes they just need space.
 
Sam
sigh well there goes our uptime record...
I'll reboot her.
 
8:08 PM
Make it fast, I already miss her.
 
@Tunaki Did you hear that. Sam is going to boot her. Are you going to stand for that?
 
^ re boot her even.
 
lol
 
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
That's even worse. That means he's done it more than once.
 
8:09 PM
^^ what?
 
Sam
wat
 
@Closey alive
 
Sam
Ah, dead websocket
I'll still have to reboot her
 
again? don't treat her that badly
wasn't supposed to say that :)
 
So I just learned that arrowing through previous chat messages edits them instead of copying them.
 
8:11 PM
I though SO was a ASPCR supporter
lol
 
It's long @Sam.
 
Sam
It took me a bit to find the right container to kill. :p
 
I'm going to keep pinging you until my Closey is back @Sam
@Sam still waiting
 
Sam
Have fun with that @Tuna
It's booting up again @Tuna
 
@Sam finally
 
Sam
8:14 PM
Just wait for her to initialise @Tuna
Ok @Tuna?
 
@Sam do it quick
@Sam We're late
 
Sam
Do you need more pings @Tuna?
 
@Sam MOAR
 
Sam
It takes time @Tuna
 
@Sam That's because you wrote bad code
 
Sam
8:14 PM
The more people in the room, the longer it takes to init @Tuna
 
@Sam Blame the humans then
 
Sam
Yep @Tuna
I'm gonna check the logs @Tuna
One sec @Tuna
 
@Sam yes do that
@Sam Log into the server
@Sam the credentials are on the post-it on the table
 
Sam
The auth process timed out @Tuna
I'll try again @Tuna
 
8:16 PM
@Sam Did you log into the right server?
@Sam Don't kill SO. That's the other post-it.
 
Sam
Oh, you're right @Tuna. I logged into NSA's waffle control centre instead. Silly me.
 
Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
@NobodyNada I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
\o/
 
Sam
There you go @Tuna
 
@Clo alive
 
8:18 PM
@Tunaki I'm alive and kicking!
 
Yay
@Closey start event
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
8039 need review
1757 reviews today
3276472 reviews all-time
The tags to work on are: , , .
 
we're only 20 minutes late
 
Sam
Blame science.
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@user2314737 I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
8:21 PM
priority done
 
I'm out of votes now
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@Closey my stats
 
@NobodyNada You've reviewed 22 posts today (of which 11 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 56 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 4 seconds.
 
11 audits??
 
8:21 PM
11 audits, what?
It must have missed some of the reviews while it was down
 
Sam
Just blame the damn caching.
Closey caches a lot of stuff, ok?
 
@NobodyNada Closey never misses. She just lives in a dimension you cannot comprehend.
 
that dimension is called "docker"
 
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
JAL
is there a better dupe target for this? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/322349/2415822
 
8:32 PM
user2314737 passed a audit!
 
@JAL this if it was on MSO
can't find anything else that's any good on MSO
 
I guess the OP's name should be no suprise... is it possible to give a lover priority in php or in mysql?
 
Lover priority? Nice.
 
ryanyuyu passed an audit!
 
Hey Closey didn't detect that I finished reviewing
 
8:39 PM
She didn't notice you finished?
 
what's wrong? did sam hit you again?
 
@Tunaki I think it's major lag
I passed that audit like 3 minutes ago.
 
[2016-05-03 20:38:50.06 +00:00] [Andras Deak] Lover priority? Nice.
[2016-05-03 20:38:50.92 +00:00] Saving ReviewItem 12233501 for user 4320665.
[2016-05-03 20:38:58.90 +00:00] Saving ReviewItem 12230187 for user 578411.
[2016-05-03 20:38:59.46 +00:00] Saving ReviewItem 12229989 for user 1743880.
[2016-05-03 20:39:03.89 +00:00] Saving ReviewItem 12229464 for user 2025923.
[2016-05-03 20:39:08.84 +00:00] Saving ReviewItem 12229474 for user 2314737.
[2016-05-03 20:39:13.18 +00:00] Saving ReviewItem 12230281 for user 1387174.
 
@Tunaki seems like an answer. Just a poorly documented/explained one.
 
8:41 PM
@gunr2171 Is that... the whole chat log?
 
it's what closey outputs to the log
which is "I parsed this review" and chat messages
it's not the whole thing, just the recent portion
it's still saving items for you @Tunaki
like 12231898
 
Sam
@Clo status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 2c838162 on master, running for 27 minutes and 26 seconds (tracking latency 25630ms).
 
oh, well
 
Sam
26 sec lag
 
8:45 PM
I'm sure Sam hit her again.
That's why she's so slow.
 
....jokes about domestic abuse are probably not the best to say
@Sam reboot when it gets done?
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 11 minutes and 14 seconds, averaging to a review every 16 seconds.
 
Sam
@gunr2171 May as well I guess
 
\o/
 
Sam
nvm
@Clo status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 2c838162 on master, running for 31 minutes and 48 seconds (tracking latency 29428ms).
 
@NathanOliver User is not blacklisted.
 
Sam
30 secs
:/
 
does fp now remove the user from the blacklist?
 
nope
 
8:50 PM
I'm out of close votes
 
hmm. maybe they were removed somewhere else then
 
reboot time
 
@user2314737 I don't mind it not being percentage based, but there are a lot of details lacking so I closed as "Too broad"
 
wait, it was only running for 31 minutes?
@Closey stop bot
 
Sam
(You may need to rereboot if it times out, again)
 
8:51 PM
@gunr2171 I'm shutting down...
Goodbye! (nagato v2 docker)
Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 2c838162 on master, running for 21 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
 
@ryanyuyu yes definitely too broad
 
@Closey reviews today
 
@Closey room stats details
 
8:53 PM
@gunr2171 I don't have enough data to produce those stats.
 
thanks. and that makes sense because of the reboot right?
 
@gunr2171 Today, 12 members have reviewed a total of 282 items.
 | User           | Review Items Today |
 |-------------------------------------|
 | TylerH         | 40                 |
 | rene           | 39                 |
 | Serlite        | 39                 |
 | Tushar         | 38                 |
 | Tunaki         | 29                 |
 | user2314737    | 29                 |
 | NobodyNada     | 23                 |
 | Petter Friberg | 23                 |
 | ryanyuyu       | 13                 |
 | Mogsdad        | 6                  |
 | Rob            | 2                  |
 
@Closey room stats
 
@gunr2171 I don't have enough data to produce those stats.
 
bs
 
8:54 PM
haha
 
meh, I'll look at it later
need to leave now
cya!
 
bye gunr
 
Sam
cya!
@gunr2171 We use the tracking lib for those stats, and since the lib relies on cache, it can't calc the stats needed.
 
@Clo my stats
 
@Tunaki You've reviewed 0 posts today. The time between your first and last review today was 17 minutes and 15 seconds, averaging to a review every 27 seconds.
 
8:59 PM
that makes no sense but I still love you
 
^ true love
sheds tear
 
@Clo my stats
 
@NobodyNada You've reviewed 0 posts today. The time between your first and last review today was 15 minutes and 10 seconds, averaging to a review every 39 seconds.
 
Sam
afk for a bit
 
define a bit
 
9:09 PM
@Tunaki 0 or 1
 
ah yes
:D
 
So if you do: log(sam.afk) you will get 1(TRUE).
 
@Closey Um... 0 reviews but a review every 39 seconds?
 
@hichris123 Sorry, I don't understand that. Maybe you meant add review [review id] [user id].
 
bah, nevermind.
 
9:22 PM
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Clo commands
 
@Tunaki Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add review [review id] [user id] - Manually adds a review to a user. Should only be used for testing.
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
 
@Sam "start event" isn't in there ^
 
@Tunaki It is.
 
scroll fail
that was embarrassing
 
9:29 PM
Don't worry. I've done worse.
 
Mogsdad passed a audit!
 
Out of cv, and invested all my dels on . I'm outta here!
 
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
@Tunaki lol
 
you didn't see anything
 
9:44 PM
Closey really noticed me today. 3 times in fact.
 
Love triangle murder-suicide on the horizon
watch out with Tunaki
 
Sam
@Tunaki don't worry, I didn't see your epic fail
 
@AndrasDeak Or new sitcom 2 1/2 programmers?
 
@Sam good I'm reassured
 
10:01 PM
nighty night
 
bye Andras
 
So, new feature on Metasmoke.
 
Oh?
 
Ah?
 
Smokey feedback is now automatically monitored. Metasmoke administrators invalidate any incorrect feedback. If the number of invalidated feedbacks you have rises above 4%+4 of your total, your feedback will start to be automatically ignored by Metasmoke.
10
Nobody is currently above that threshold, which is basically why we picked it.
 
10:09 PM
Great addition
 
@ArtOfCode can some important person pin this plz?
 
oh, you wanted important. Sorry.
 
abusing pin privilege grumble grumble
 
The feature was brought about partially by our previous monitoring not quite being up to the job (including being subjective, given that it was mainly done by humans), and implemented on the back of Tim's suggestion that there might be integration coming up.
Just gives us an extra degree of security in feedback accuracy.
Being feedback-ignored isn't final - the system won't lift the block automatically, ever, but admins can review and lift ignores.
which... is still subjective, but I'd rather have human review before removing a block that was imposed because someone kept getting it wrong
 
10:24 PM
Handling flags is surprisingly therapeutic while on hold w/ customer support
 
Sam
:D
 
The insanity's getting to him.
 
As long as your call is important to them and they make sure to tell you that every 10 seconds - that's the main thing @Undo :p
 
@JonClements this one is more like every 60 seconds
Although they update you on how many people are ahead of you, which helps a little
@ArtOfCode 'getting' implies that it hasn't already fully permeated me
 
@Undo Oh no, it has, but it's starting to eat away at your vitals now.
 
10:39 PM
night guys
 
Goodnight @Tunaki
 
Sam
Night
 
10:55 PM
?
 
Rob
11:07 PM
Morning all
 
Sam
Hiya
 
Rob
Good day for me on a personal note.. girlfriend was finally granted a visa to live here in Australia :)
 
Sam
Good to hear :)
 
11:19 PM
@Sam What's PSA?
 
Sam
@PraveenKumar Public Service Announcement
 
@Rob :)
@Sam :)
 
Sam
Ninjas...
 
@SmokeDetector yuck.
 
Sam
11:30 PM
Night guys
 
Night
 
Goodnight
 
this really shouldn't have lived for two hours: sports.stackexchange.com/questions/13639/…
 

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