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8:00 AM
God morning
 
God Morning
 
@KevinGuan reading ...
 
Wow, I like these numbers: i.stack.imgur.com/CoPZB.png
 
Stackoverflow: gives me a c++ opinion based audit when I searched for a php unclear audit
 
8:07 AM
So the CV queue is down from 9k to 6k. Seems change the number of close votes is really helpful.
 
Ferrybig passed a audit!
@TimCastelijns I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Ferrybig It's so good that you didn't click Edit and try to remove the tag.
 
Really funny how the audits place the tag you search in front of the tags on the audit to make the tags on the question php and c++
 
How do I convert this C++ code to PHP.
 
> in the javascript file they use >>> and i don't know what this operator is. So i have used >>
lol
 
8:13 AM
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@PetterFriberg 12 members have processed 548 review items today, which accounts for 35.68% of all cv reviews today.
 
so it was not a week end problem..... no one else is reviewing.......
 
Is there an easy way of finding out, based on which questions I've VTC on, which are closed, and which have been closed and reopened? I had a look on the data explorer but didn't find quite what I was looking for.
 
Ian
@KevinGuan deleted
 
Thanks
 
8:23 AM
@Petter most people review to 1000 for the badge and then stop
 
Hiya o/
 
Tim Castelijns passed a audit!
 
@Tunaki morning
Long Path tool spam
came across that in the LQP queue
 
Does editing a Q invalidate close votes?
 
8:29 AM
@TimCastelijns no
 
terminated by a mod, I like
 
@Magisch This is going to be a tough audit in the review que....
 
@PetterFriberg Probably
still spam though
 
@PetterFriberg The comments will help ;).
 
My main consideration when flagging spam is not "How clearly could this be used as an audit?"
Why do these people try
specifically on here
 
8:31 AM
@Tunaki True, you will save some users from review ban....
 
whip cracks
 
@Magisch Sure, was just a side note comment.... since it was not easy to see spam
 
I wonder why these spammers try
All they will do is waste 5s of 6 people's lives
What is this?
 
I dont know, but it sure isn't fit for SU
 
There is a Jon lurking here
I see you
 
8:39 AM
I'm everywhere... (said in spooky & mysterious voice...)
 
Hiya @Jon
 
@KevinGuan Not sure why people spam
If I get 1000 shady emails about generic medicine the last thing im going to do is buy that
 
And that's why people spam ^
Or they all love Tunaki Smokey - If people don't spam then Smokey is useless :(
Oh wait, he can still makes coffee and tea or blame others anyway.
!!/blame
 
8:47 AM
@KevinGuan It's Tunaki's fault.
 
No, it is not.
 
So nobody loves Tunaki, even Smokey.
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I love tunaki
 
I love tunaki
 
My favorite angry french cat
 
8:49 AM
Plop!
 
I get along with Tunaki
 
@Kyll o/
 
I can somewhat bear to be within 10 meters of Tunaki
 
@Kyll Plop!
 
@Kyll on the other hand
I use kyll as function name generic
 
8:53 AM
Plop!
 
@TheLostMind Plop
 
@TheLostMind Hiya o/
 
You have a minecraft impersonator btw
 
@Magisch - who me?
 
minecraft account "thelostmind" is held by a 15 year old american who knows nothing of SO
:D
 
8:54 AM
@Tunaki - Smokie hates your name
He thinks plop is better
@Magisch - Ah I see. lol.
 
No he doesn't.
 
@TheLostMind Plop! =D
 
@Kyll - Plop!
 
!!/blame
 
@Tunaki It's your fault. Everything is your fault! you are to blame for everything! Everything! muhahahahahaha
9
 
8:55 AM
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's Linus Kleen's fault.
 
@SmokeDetector See?
 
@SmokeDetector Wait, blame a mod? Really?
 
@Tunaki It's TheLostMind's fault. (suddenly realises that smokie has gone crazy :P)
 
Morning o/
 
8:56 AM
@TheLostMind He's gone crazy so maybe he should be.... lobotomised!
Plop @Lafexlos!
 
Hi Kyllie & Lafexlos
 
@Lafexlos Plop!
 
@Lafexlos Hiya o/
 
@Kyll - What on earth is that?
 
@TheLostMind Lobotomised? It's your verb now, I think
 
8:58 AM
@SmokeDetector Hmmmm. Moderators abusing their powers he?
 
@Tunaki - Where?
 
whistles innocently
 
@Kyll - make (someone) less able to function mentally or emotionally.
 
"Kyll" - A common function name extension
 
@Kyll How many people still haven't been "verbified"? :p
 
8:58 AM
Yeah you don't want to be associated with that word
 
@JonClements Ha!
 
@TheLostMind IIRC a lobotomy is a historically barbaric surgical procedure during which you remove part of someone's brain for them to be "normal". I don't know if it's still used or not.
 
It is still used
 
you remove part of someone's brain for them to be "normal" what?
 
@TheLostMind the (primitive) idea is that if someone was not normal removing part of their brain would make them
 
9:00 AM
@TheLostMind I think it was used in the beginning of the 20th century on "abnormal" women (read: women who dared to speak up) to make them more docile. It's actually quite gruesome.
 
Looks scary..
 
I'm suddenly reminded of that scene in "Red Dragon" (I think - or was it Hannibal) where the guy's sitting eating his a bit of his own stir fried brain
 
It was a 50/50 of either killing or brainkilling someone or messing their head up
 
A verbification which, despite its glaucous feel, fits your nickname and avatar perfectly when it comes to bad content obliteration.
 
It is
 
9:01 AM
^ Hannibal (YouTube link - probably NSFW)
 
^ what he said
 
@JonClements Should we follow yesterday's procedure of elimination? =p
 
@WaiHaLee thanks... That scene was disturbing enough - if I'd have known that was in the film when I rented it, I wouldn't have cooked a pork stir fry and noodles that evening :)
(especially since I'd paused it just before that scene, served dinner, sat back down, started to eat, hit play... then that seen turned up... suddenly didn't feel that hungry)
 
I think this review is too-broad, there are multiple questions asked, and there is no code/source of the claim given
 
@JonClements That sounds horrible. :/
 
9:04 AM
@Ferrybig And that is why you use tools...
 
@Ferrybig this
@Ferrybig If you got R-Banned for it you may raise it on meta and maybe a mod will lift it
 
@Ferrybig Ferry stay away from review : )
 
@Magisch Still not banned... Not yet...
 
Im already out of CVs and its 10 am
 
If I get review banned, can I still use my close votes in a normal way?
 
9:09 AM
Yes
 
@Ferrybig yes
 
@Ferrybig Yes, but with a bit more grudge to it
 
one more flag approved for Tunaki, thats 5$ @Tuna....
 
\o/
 
@Tuna this stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11710603, don't know anything about sigterm sure its not an answer?, I will skip...
 
9:14 AM
@PetterFriberg It's seems a question posted as an answer.
 
seems like he is bold ing where the answer is...
 
It's a question for me.
 
ok I will skip... ; ), this one Tuna is taking great risk on.....
 
@PetterFriberg No idea here
Meta effect. Urgh.
 
@Petter SIGTERM is basically the command the OS sends a process when it is about to be terminated
 
9:17 AM
and the bold in answer is trying to answer "who has sent the SIGTERM to the process" ???
 
@Kyll from where?
 
Hi
 
Hi
 
Hi
 
Hi
 
9:18 AM
 
#RekdTrain
 
:)
 
@Magisch meta.stackoverflow.com/q/319335/4174897 Shog calling for downvotes probably didn't help...
Plop Eric!
 
@Petter @Tunaki yes I believe the guy is saying "you can use this tool to track where SIGTERMs come from"
 
@Kyll rofl
 
9:19 AM
So it looks valid to me
 
Thats another $5 from Tuna since I skipped : )
 
Why there're so many stars?
 
There are so many stars because we like to fill the starboard with garbage.
 
Just want star it...but I better don't do it since it'll has a star soon.
 
9:23 AM
Stars.... EVERYWHERE
 
The starboard would be proud of us
 
Finally.
 
Noooo, the Tunacleansing has begun.....
 
@WhoeverCleaned Thanks
 
All right, easy with the stars :)
 
9:25 AM
resist urge to star that
 
^ me too
 
^ me too
 
I could not
 
@Magisch So you did it huh?
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's Tunaki's fault.
 
9:26 AM
rekt
 
Again?
 
Yeah, it's still Tunaki's fault.
 
!!/blame
 
@Magisch It's TheLostMind's fault.
 
Again?
 
9:27 AM
Smokey is being quite the anarchist today
 
@Tunaki Yes, you cleaned our stars, now we lost some stars from the sky
 
!!/blame Tunaki again?
 
@KevinGuan It's Ferrybig's fault.
 
Ha ha ha.
 
@Ferrybig Smokey agrees with Tunaki this time.
@PraveenKumar o/
 
9:28 AM
@KevinGuan o/
 
Spammer?
 
@PraveenKumar o/
 
the user has 2 answers, both recommending that specific sdk
@PetterFriberg Strongly looks like it should be either more descriptive or a comment to me
Is this and this spam worthy?
The only 2 answers of that user are recommending the same paid SDK
Not sure if a smokebomb would be appropiate here @Tunaki whats your opinion?
Its a paid for SDK
 
9:32 AM
I'd custom mod-flag.
 
@petter I think that OP either needs to write a proper self answer or none at all
but thats just me
 
ok thanks. just want your opinion...
 
I mod flagged it
not sure if its worth pinging lurking jon or mind about it
probably not
 
@Magisch Shog9 adviced to not ping mods for work.... only for fun...
 
maybe I can smuggle a joke about loosing your mind into the flag discussion
:D
 
9:44 AM
Stupid question, but how do I format [cv-pls] links with the question title, username and date?
 
@Floern There's a script for this.
There's a script for everything.
 
thank you
 
@Ferrybig o/
Very quick! :(
 
9:48 AM
The spam answers I linked are getting upvotes :/
 
@Tunaki How important is commenting to "kill the grace period"? Should I be doing that too?
 
@JeffreyBosboom It's not something that you should do per se, but something I'm doing so that edits that are made during the 5 min grace period appear in the history (otherwise, there's no track of it)
 
@JeffreyBosboom We've had a few very rare cases during which a troll / spam was edited to look like an answer. Since flags don't kill the grace period we use comments.
sd f - Doesn't look like spam
 
I flagged that as abusive
 
abusive?
 
9:56 AM
abusing the english so for content not meant for it
 
@Magisch Meh, there's sometimes such things since SO.ru has opened
 
@Magisch I translated nothing was abusive.... sd f was correct
 
@PetterFriberg There's an edit pending, but missing the title. Maybe you can improve it?
 
The new edit is missing the keyword "Doctrine"
 
@Ferrybig I translated it and edited let give him a chance... time to move on...
ok now he edited him self so I am home free...
re-consider your votes.
My feeling is that we are being to aggressive on post in foreign language, they can fairly easy be edited and then judge.. Do anyone have some meta on this?
 
Rob
10:07 AM
@PetterFriberg You speak Russian?
Pretty close translation :)
 
No, but google do and @AlexK do...
 
Rob
Ah okay :D
 
well I have studied it (in military) a bit... and together in here we cover many languages....
 
Rob
Ah, fair enough
 
@PetterFriberg meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/297673/… "Please do not translate posts for the OP" or meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/262014/… "The best thing to do is translate it to English" ...
 
10:11 AM
stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11711058 this is an answer, right? Which means, looks ok. Or just skip?
 
@Lafexlos I voted to delete..., rebooted the device?, ma better to comment... you vote as you like
 
I still don't get this queue's lines. Tooltip says, it isn't low quality but it is. At the same time, if rebooting solves a problem, then it is an answer.
 
It has an accepted answer, check out the question and accepted answer....
 
@Lafexlos It is an answer for me.
 
@PetterFriberg For that user accepted answer worked, for other users, rebooting might work.
 
10:14 AM
SO lets answer all questions like that : )
 
Not saying it's a great answer, but it does attempt to.
 
If you can handle all the downvotes, yeah, let's do it. :D
 
skip maybe is good...
 
edited
 
@Tunaki Should be deleted.
 
10:16 AM
Found meta on non-english answers and questions, we should not edit
I went with spam
 
Hi all o/
 
Hi o/
 
wow, self deleting smokey!
 
Hi o/
 
@PetterFriberg I went with Very low quality, didn't had the time to analyze his website
 
10:21 AM
@Tunaki Give me the default comment you do for the spams?
Send it here...
So I can plagiarise on future posts.
 
I opened web site, could not find anything realted..., the more I look at it the more its spam
 
@Tuna Did ya see the latest comment on your nomination gist?
 
@BhargavRao link
 
stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11711932 for this one, it attempts to answer question but adds nothing new. Looking at the timestamps though, it is posted at the same time with the accepted one. So... Stuck between two again.
 
10:26 AM
hi all
 
@Lafexlos Seems like answer. probably one flag the other : )
 
@BhargavRao Should I kick you right now or do you want to apologize?
:D
@AndrasDeak Hiya o/
 
I won't apologize B)
@AndrasDeak Hey o/
 
\o
that smokey blame cracked me up :D ---->
 
10:32 AM
@AndrasDeak Yeah, Smells like puppy's work :D
 
does it have anything to do with the question?
@BhargavRao a possibility;)
 
@Lafexlos, my reasoning in that que is, This is really an answer and its important (edit it to get it out of que), this an answer and you should not vote to delete it (Looks ok), this is probably and answer but there are better ones, no need for this (Skip, the que is deleting everything so no problem), and kill everything that are clear case with recommend deletion
 
though for an instance I believed that SD keeps Tunaki in a special place
@EricD. I think it's spam
 
eric gone
 
"rendering" is nowhere to be found in the link
 
10:33 AM
thx
 
which suggests to me that it has nothing to do with the question
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, almost same for me too. I just don't like skipping since someone else will vote on it, I want to learn what to do on those gray cases.
 
wut?
 
@Lafexlos Gray cases normally get deleted, so if you skip you let them get deleted..... (thats why I often check other answers on question), if you vote look's ok its mostly for the fun of it.... if you believe its important you need to edit it.
 
10:36 AM
"Thank you for reviewing 30 low quality posts today." Finally. Afk for lunch.
 
Bon appétit!
 
buon appetito
 
beuon appetitoe
 
I did, since it was edited...
 
10:40 AM
I commented
 
@Kyll, also instruct user how to post a new question (I do not want to pile comment)
 
@PetterFriberg I saw that, but honestly, no. There's a big button. There's help links. This is pushing help a bit too far...
 
If a user doesn't know how to post a question then SO has a problem
(or a solution)
 
ok true! :), seems like a solution....
 
@Kyll Ok, sorry about this one. — Magicprog.fr 1 min ago
 
10:46 AM
@Kyll mission accomplished
 
Oh noes, more ROs! Grats to @Tunaki and @Mogsdad!
 
@DavidG Plop!
 
Plop!
 
Hiya! And thanks!
 
11:11 AM
Does Smokey detect when the question was deleted and removes it?
Or was it a "gone" from a different room?
 
Auto-Smokey
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes, it does that automatically now.
 
@Tunaki Neat!
Mar 9 at 7:55, by rene
SPAM deleted? Use sd gone. Not SPAM? Use sd f and sd remove. Not an answer? Use sd naa-.
Still relevant? ^
 
Looks very fishy, possible spam: 1 and 2
 
Madara is here \o/
Plop!
 
11:13 AM
@MadaraUchiha Waiting for auto-unpin on 23rd
 
@MadaraUchiha Mh yep
Although with one modification:
 
@Tunaki Comment as an answer.
 
Posts resulting in rude/abusive flags are k too
Say for example garbage posts, or insults
 
!!/test Kyll is stupid
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
11:14 AM
SPAM deleted? Do nothing. Not SPAM? Use sd f. Not an answer? Use sd n.
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@BhargavRao So want to flag that and get you into troubles! =p
 
@Kyll sd didn't catch that!
 
@Tunaki Not spam
Confirmed apache mirror
 
@BhargavRao Self answer
 
11:18 AM
Yeah, Suited as a comment. But not suitable for flag
 
@BhargavRao It's a "I don't know one" answer to a tool rec... Just close the thing and forget it
 
@BhargavRao if you remove "Do you know any other gems analogs?" from the question, the Q&A becomes valid IMO. Not good quality, but valid.
 
@EricD. Can you edit it into shape? I'll be the 1st to reopen.
 
@EricD. - Are you trying to say that the answer is valid?
 
@BhargavRao Thinking about it, I think it would change the meaning of the question. I've seen "Does it support X?" with an answer of "No it doesn't" which is valid, but... should we edit is another matter... not sure anymore.
 
11:23 AM
@TheLostMind Nah, The question.
 
@BhargavRao - I see
OK:)
 
U C? I thought u java
 
smalltalk
 
@Tunaki can you remove my previous message? It was not that nice..
 
11:26 AM
done
I should answer more on Meta. My average answer score is 18.6923 for while it is 8.64212 for the rest. data.stackexchange.com/meta.stackoverflow/query/421609/…
 
Does sd k still work once the message is deleted? We're sometimes a bit too quick for chat =p
 
It does. I think.
 
@Kyll Who knows?, lets hope? @Ferrybig
 
@PetterFriberg Was you sd k after the message was deleted?
 
just about there...., but I guess so...
 
11:33 AM
@Ferrybig Yep, he did
 
If his messages was after smokey deleted the message, we have confirmed that smokey saw the message (hover over the checkmarks at the top of the screen to see who acknowledged the post)
 
Nice
So we can still sd k even after an auto-deletion
And who do I see on the checkmarks! Plop @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW =D
 
@Ferrybig So we still should sd k after its removed?
 
@PetterFriberg Yes, because it blacklists the user, and it marks the post as positive. But ignoring it is also a option, because we also have people marking the posts in the Charcoal HQ, and it doesn't matter if a post is marked here or in that channel. Not replying keeps the timeline clean here.
 
@Ferrybig It would be fun if Smokey added a checkmark/cross/N in chat messages each time someone k or f or naa it
 
11:38 AM
@Ferrybig Thanks we will continue here since we can not be sure it was done in Charcoal HQ
 
@PetterFriberg Hence above idea
 
@PetterFriberg Notice that @Tunaki said as a room owner that it should not be done, see the starboard. So we should rely on the Charcoal HQ
 
I didn't quite say that. You can do it but you don't have to.
 
tu k
 
@Kyll or connect the removal of message to both post deleted and user confirmed.
 
11:41 AM
@Ferrybig I think the intent of Tuna was to say that gone was no longer needed
@PetterFriberg Oh, nice idea too
 
@Ferrybig late at night I have not seen people in the Charcoal HQ, so @Tuna whats your last decision...
 
@PetterFriberg If there is really a backlog of not acknowledged messages, we can always go though them manually using meta smoke, it contains a page where all posts without feedback are listed, then we can give those posts feedback quickly
 
The starboard is not the FAQ. There is currently no official guidance on how to use Smokey in SOCVR FAQ (we'll fix that), so the official guidance is Smokey's FAQ. In the mean time, no-one is obliged to do anything. As far I as understand, Smokey doesn't care if the user is blacklisted twice or not so if you want to confirm to Smokey, I don't see any reason to not do that.
2
 
> Thanks for contributing an answer to us!
Thanks for contributing a flag to us!
 
Morning
 
11:48 AM
Morning
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
: )...
 
^ which is why we need to update the FAQ on Smokey's usage ASAP :)
 
@Tunaki also this was marked twice : ), Tuna ninja'd Ferry... so no need to mark in Charcoal HQ : )
 
11:52 AM
But also @Ferrybig It seems that a lot of change and refactoring are going on in Smokey's code right now. It would be nice if we're told of the changes in advance so that our members can modify their actions accordingly. (like sd n or automatic removal or others...)
 
@Tunaki We'll definitely tell you if there are changes that affect its usage.
 
@ArtOfCode thanks for getting metasmoke back up on the SO page
 
@ArtOfCode Awesome :)
 
We don't always know what the changes are until they're mostly done, so the advance part may not always happen.
@Adriaan Oh that thing. Yeah, metasmoke was feeding me bad results so I made a hotfix.
 
@Tunaki, pass me a ping if you update the SOCVR FAQ related to Smokey.
 
11:59 AM
Work on the per site reports feature should start tonight, @Adriaan.
 
When we do, everyone will know :)
 

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