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20:00
Nah, the answer is valid w/o the spammy link
I'm removing it
No! It's a copy/paste from above with a link appended, SPAM
@BhargavRao Yes. He has did the same thing on prgrammers
@Kyll Confirm, SPAM
Destroy it \o/
downgraded from VS 2015 to VS 2012+ today to support some legacy code, which didn't work, so I had to install 2008 -.-
20:01
AHHH ... You tell as soon as I edit it
@cybermonkey har har har har har.
@cybermonkey but what if I told you that my last job is still using VS 2008?
And now I get my first spam flag on programmers
..which I don't know if it'll work or not
@NathanOliver Yay \o/
Okay guys, 99.12% helpful with 2033 flags
@Tunaki I will reach you if you ever go on a sabbatical :P
20:03
So far Tunaki is leading and Kyll is going to be making waffles.
@BhargavRao I think I have the best score of them all. My score was so high it actually overflowed and looped back to negative.
And I am a far away second :)
So... gunr, I think you're up for cooking some waffles (if we forget about Kyll attempting to break everything)
2
@Kyll Lol.
Fine, leaving now ... o/
Bye
BREAK THE WAFFLEZ!!1
20:04
Cya!
@Tunaki well, time to break out the cooking stuff
I win on programmers: i.sstatic.net/gNxYd.jpg
#ObviousCheaterIsObvious
Cheeter now a thing
spell check failed me
20:06
Last sd report still not dead!
yes it is?
Never mind
I win on meta.SE :p
@NathanOliver Congrats!
20:07
ty :)
New CommitStrip. One-box allowed?
just link to it, give it some text
(plus, you've already used your one image per day!)
(If I use more I may get to -1515.94% helpful one-boxes!)
20:10
:P
@BhargavRao yesitis. Some promotion about creating websites and stuff. Not even a link-only answer.
afk
^ Context: OP wanted to self-delete (per comments), couldn't because of answers on the (closed-as-duplicate) question. Frustrated trashing of post ensued; I rolled it back. Seems kindest to delete and let it blow over rather than escalate.
20:32
Anyone willing to talk about a tag wiki?
What tag?
. The wiki has "There's a Stack Exchange specific to bioinformatics at biostars.org/"; which I think should either be changed or removed. as far as I can tell biostars.org is not an SE site.
I would say remove
it's a clone, not an SE website
Alright. I removed it. I love that I can actually edit wikis now.
20:47
geeze, rub it in!
:P
Will the edit still be reviewed? Or are you just free to edit without notice?
@NathanOliver There's even a badge for it.
@Thaillie Full edit rights
@Tunaki must.. get.. badge..
Are the tag descriptions in the SEDE?
20:51
The user who made that wiki edit should be flagged.
@Thaillie Yep.
@Kyll That's how I found it.
@NathanOliver "No usage guidance." Full edit rights doesn't lower the bar.
Tags table has WikiPostId that links to a Post
I remember writing a SEDE that showed all tags that had no wiki and no excerpt.
20:53
@Mogsdad Agreed. I just wouldn't mod flag it for a one time occurrence and I have no idea if I can check the users tag wiki edits.
Oct 19 '15 at 9:52, by Tunaki
Want to make a meta post but don't know what for? Take your pick from tags without excerpt and ask for burnination! (this applies to most of them)
-1 all capital keywords
Is it possible to see the revisions of a tag excerpt?
Yes. There should be a excerpt history link on the bottom right of the tag wiki.
20:59
go here, then the two links below the blue button
It's a little tricky because it has "history" for the wiki, and a separate link for the excerpt.
I've flagged it, btw.
because SE treats them as different posts
@Mogsdad The user or the wiki?
Heck, take the first one: . What is this?
@NathanOliver Flagged the wiki edit, by a custom flag on another post by the user.
There's no flags for wikis.
21:03
@Mogsdad Okay. I thought they finally implemented tag wiki flagging and left me out of it.
I should have thought of that, and trolled for a while...
afk... Gotta go grab a beer and snacks in the staff lounge!
Wait, that biostars site. Go here biostar.stackexchange.com
@Thaillie That redirects to biostars.org
21:08
@Thaillie flagged as spam :p
So what is biostar org in relation to Stack Exchange? :p
WTH? There's nothing on Biostars indicating it's affiliated with SE.
I don't think it's in relation to SE, because it's not listed here: stackexchange.com/sites#traffic
Should I/someone write a meta to bring this to SO's attention?
21:13
@Rizier123 Or here: i.sstatic.net/M1jP1.png
@Tunaki I already edited it
SE would have to be doing the DN forwarding, no?
@Tunaki Awesome find
> As a courtesy, we now redirect biostar.stackexchange.com to biostars.org.
Declined flag count, +1
A re-edit of the wiki would be in order, referencing that Meta post.
21:16
Apparently, this goes back a long time.
But still, shouldn't the biostar.SE link be there instead of the .org link?
@Mogsdad On it.
@Thaillie What if the courtesy-redirect is ever dropped? Better to go direct, and maybe call it a "Stack Exchange-type site" or just a "Q&A Site".
@NathanOliver Okay... I'll go run the queue.
@Mogsdad No need. edits apply instantly now.
oh. I just now realized you were probably talking about the CV queue.
21:19
@PaulRoub I think only link to the Meta post. A precedent of linking to other Q&A sites would be bad. (Quora, expertsexchange...)
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
I went with:
> There's a former Stack Exchange site specific to bioinformatics at biostars.org
Later guys
Mogsdad passed a audit!
OP agrees to go to serverfault
above cannot reproduce after reboot
TYPO no ) at end
above simple TYPO read OP comment #2
21:57
@Mogsdad You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today (1 of which was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 37 minutes, averaging to a review every 57 seconds.
AMG that was painful.
@kayess you got that right, and it was funny chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=28142805#28142805
@Drew, how are you, need your 5 mins
ok i'll be over in a few min
@Drew ok will be waiting
22:39
@MadaraUchiha: Remember that "Canonical collection" meta thread I posted? A significant majority of posts / votes on there favour closure.
@Cerbrus Your timing could not be more perfect.
I closed it exactly one minute ago :D
No way xD
Well, excellent!
And thanks :-)
22:56
@cerbrus is it time to go after the PHP one yet ?
I'm not sure.
That would be a separate meta thread
or forgiveness cuz of CW status
The CW status doesn't harm it's survivability, at least.
user4639281
@MadaraUchiha That's sad, it would have been an excellent tool. Too bad the majority of the community doesn't see it's value. Suppose we should close the regex reference question next.
make em community wiki's. Let's call it documentation. It's a win-win. Peeps get to read stuff, and the Q's get closed (and sometimes those closures actually stick).
23:06
@TinyGiant In contrast, one could say it's too bad you don't see the negative aspects of such posts. Let's not get overzealous, by the way.
But to keep them open, and have 100 answers hanging under them and growing and growing, etc, and the maintenance, and collecting points, and the in-fighting (with no community wiki status), that is a nightmare
@Drew To do so, we'd basically have to ignore how SO works.
user4639281
@Cerbrus Nope, I definitely don't see how it could possibly be negative. I see a very useful reference question that can be used in addition to the existing fragmented reference questions, but I'm the king of unpopular opinions it seems.
Apparently
I am all for the PHP one if it means a closure, and an OP reading something (and community wiki status). Means only peeps that care are answering imvho
23:08
Just so I can get an idea, which PHP Q are we talking about?
user4639281
Because, you know... Improving Organization and Solving Problems are Bad Things™
Just to make it clear: I'm all for collecting information. But imo, the negative aspects outweigh the positive ones by a large margin.
@TinyGiant: Good ol' IOSPBT™
user4639281
Yeah, solving problems is a very negative thing. There Can Only Be One Solution™
"There is no problem" *Hand wave*
user4639281
23:11
Yeah, not one that you can see anyway. Everything is hunky-dory just the way it is.
Not sure if sarcasm
Q is rightfully closed IMO.
user4639281
Cause, you know... the Giant Wall Of Crap™ is all in our heads.
@TinyGiant I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
If this is a valid question then all questions "What is this ... operator in ..." are valid.
Answer is simple: Documentation.
user4639281
23:15
@Tunaki If it isn't a valid canonical then most of the canonicals on the site should be closed.
user4639281
@Tunaki Yeah, but... We Don't Have It Yet™
No. This one should because it's nothing but a copy-paste of the doc
user4639281
I'm just making everything that I'm saying constantly a trademark now
I'm thinking of the "What is a NPE" canonical. This is not a copy-paste of any documentation.
and it wouldn't fit in Documentation.
user4639281
@Tunaki People who care about the upkeeping the quality of content on the site are trying to solve a problem, and getting shut down for it. Now that's useful.
23:17
@TinyGiant You're missing the distinction between a focused canonical, and a collection of loosely related canonicals.
In this case, we should create a huge Q with every operator of every programming languages on Earth.
And sometimes, ideas get shut down
user4639281
@Cerbrus Your solution !== My solution. Only one can exist, right?
That happens
@TinyGiant What are you getting at?
And maybe on Mars also.
user4639281
23:19
People are trying to solve a problem, and you don't even want to give it a chance to see if it might possibly work. You make an assumption straight out of the gate and force that upon everyone else.
Hold on.
user4639281
You rationalize this by saying that there isn't even a problem.
I care about the quality of content on this site. I didn't force anything on anyone. People voted, and the outcome is extremely clear. A massive majority voted to close that collection / question.
no Cerb, the first vote was yours :P
user4639281
I wouldn't call 30 people a massive majority.
23:21
You obviously have a very strong opinion against that closure. Yet the only thing you did on that meta thread, was close-vote it. Write a damn answer on there. See what people think about it.
The "Close it" answer was voted +47/-3
I call that a massive majority.
user4639281
How many of those people even contribute to the JavaScript tag?
Neither of us can possibly know that, and frankly, that's completely irrelevant.
user4639281
Yeah, and so is my opinion.
Don't go there.
The usual question, what problem does having this question solve?
23:25
I'm done discussing this with you again. If you disagree with the outcome of that meta thread, write a answer on there, start a new meta thread, or take it up with @MadaraUchiha. Stop forcing your opinion on people as if it's a fact. Stop making me out to be some kind of Canonical-hating nazi.
user4639281
I expressed my opinion, you asked me to expand on it. That's all I did. And it is clear that my opinion doesn't matter anyways, so why do you care what I say.
Good night.
@Tunaki It potentially solves something in this set: (1) a question remains open with simplistic week1 problems that ops ought to know about; (2) newbies think that unless they get an answer under their question that the answer does not exist on the stack; (3) other newbie readers are like the OP; etc
↑ ↑ that is stuff potentially on the upside
the downside is much larger imo
(1) is highly unlikely since question is either FGITW'd or closed. (2) is something I don't see what we can do about. Documentation will be a big help with this. (3) Comes back to (2).
#1 is a massive problem in my book. That is why we need a pool of dedicated closers as votes stall and age away for weeks
so that is why I say I like the PHP collection if it closes stuff (and is community wiki)
if Tiny thinks he corners the market on Unpopular opinions he ought to read more of mine :P
23:40
lol I have pretty unpopular opinions also. A typical #1 question is only active for 10 minutes tops
The time it takes for someone to copy the doc and add one or two samples
I have a screen load of week1 simplistic questions that have 3 or 4 close votes on them and the magic number is 20.1k minutes before the cv age away. So I am not sure what you are looking at
in php?
i.imgur.com/3dK5Smo.jpg when mA (minutes Age) gets to 14*24*60 = 20160 those votes age away. That is for mysql. Right now I have 170 questions with cv count of 2,3,4
That is a custom interface I wrote to track stuff, avoid the SO gui
But how do you know those are simplistic week1 problems?
that is a different issue. Mostly that is an issue of the lack of close voters
23:54
(btw, does it feed from this page?)
no

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