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1:00 PM
sd remove- onit
 
An audit on an answer from Darin Dimitrov. Yeah, sure.
 
I hate cats, kill 'em all.
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user3956566
I tried to edit it and passed the audit LOLOLOLOL
 
user3956566
@DavidG hey! we have 3 cats
 
1:09 PM
More for the barbie then!
 
@DavidG I love cats. They taste like chicken ;)
 
user3956566
@DavidG shuddup or die cat hater! :D
 
user3956566
nothing to see here O<O O>O
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver ditto ^^ I'm going to spam this room with pics of my cats any moment now looks for rene
 
user3956566
oh great and mod walks in... :D
 
user3956566
1:11 PM
hi Jos \o
 
@Tunaki What's the reopen state for this question? This is all I can see in the timeline so I am a bit confused what state it's in now :p
 
user3956566
@DavidG ooh yeh I've seen that. We live in a top floor apartment and the cats never leave it or our balconies, so we have our own little eco system.. they only kills insects, no mammals, mind you, I reckon they'd eat me if I died
 
@Thaillie There are 2 reopen votes on it
 
@MsYvette I'm just saying that they are evil so deserve to die.
 
user3956566
1:14 PM
@DavidG I like that one, BUT on a more serious note, isn't evil a subjective term?
 
Not when it comes to cats, they're objectively evil.
 
What about kittens?
 
user3956566
You're objectionably evil! :D
 
@MsYvette I agree!
@Tunaki Less meat on a kitten, but they taste better
 
user3956566
dammit David, that's no way to fight!
 
1:17 PM
Kittens aren't cat so they're not evil.
 
@bummi Bounty questions cannot be closed.
 
Yes, just tried it again :/
 
Add it to your list of Q's to revist in 3 days
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver they can with a special mod flag, but have to be inarguably off topic
 
user3956566
I would't flag that
 
1:18 PM
Take it to the list
 
user3956566
^^ has two answers already
 
Closed
 
Try not to speedy delete questions that are cleanable by roomba.
Give OP the benefit of the doubt and the ability to somehow improve their question.
Deletion should be reserved for completely unsalvageable crap that has absolute 0 value.
 
user3956566
I'm thinking of asking a meta post: Can we please have a min rep to post questions or answers on SO?
 
@MsYvette don't go there
 
1:24 PM
@MsYvette No
 
Will scare off potential new users
 
user3956566
time is ticking, see if anyone here knows me
 
Feature-request: each user should be approved by Jon Skeet himself before being able to post on SO.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki thank you! I hope you understood my joke
 
user3956566
It means no one new can partcipate on SO
 
user3956566
1:25 PM
a min rep to post LOLOLOL
 
SO is facing the problems every major community is facing.
 
Hi, I have short question checking stuff under my oak, what is the best way to handle deprecated answers? A) Edit answer (clear edit below prev. code), B) Pass comment to poster, hoping he will follow up (tried it but with out great success ; ) C) Pass own answer (ref, original answer, but with problem of low-traffic tag)
 
@MsYvette I think it should be Min rep to add external links except jsfiddle, codepen, etc.. This will stop spammers
 
It's being flooded by people who don't understand and don't want to understand the culture. They want their problems solved.
 
@PetterFriberg comment and post your own uptodate answer
 
1:26 PM
Kinda like Europe.
#shotsfired
 
user3956566
It's a joke if we have a min rep to post on SO, to post anything, then there can be no new users!
 
@MsYvette Could fill the edit queue
 
@MsYvette I think it should be Min rep to add external links except jsfiddle, codepen, etc.. This will stop spammers
 
@Tunaki great thanks...
 
@MadaraUchiha: Did you see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/314472/… yet?
 
user3956566
1:27 PM
@Tunaki que?
 
@PetterFriberg Someone might be interested to have a deprecated answer
@MsYvette Making a lot of edits to gain +2
 
user3956566
@Tushar that's not a bad idea at all! You should post that, I'll vote for that!
 
user3956566
@Tunaki ooooooooooooooh no a min rep to do anything
 
@Tunaki, in fact I don't want to change the answer the idea was to continue answer with edit (non deprecated code)..... will go for your suggestion... even if it seemed more useful to viewer to have same non deprecated code below...
 
The question is off-topic for SO. For that reason, it shouldn't have been andwered. — Cerbrus 46 mins ago
Bounty trumps that
 
1:29 PM
No.
 
Kidding
 
@Cerbrus Sadly, yes.
 
A bounty doesn't make a question on-topic.
That's bullshit o.O
 
You can't close a bountied question.
 
1:30 PM
I see it as a system limitation.
 
Doesn't mean it should be answered
 
Sorry I should have been more sarcastic to be clear :p
 
It's a crap question
 
@Cerbrus Good luck telling people to turn down an easy +100.
 
@NathanOliver on it..., thanks.
 
1:30 PM
I just need 50 people to downvote him, then.
That should persuade him not to answer :P
 
@Cerbrus Meh, just catch it in time and flag it (or ping me or the other mods)
 
Any way, is there anything you can do?
 
@Cerbrus you would get in trouble ....
 
Mods can refund bounties while they're still active.
 
@bummi: Joking.
 
1:31 PM
So if you want to close a question but can't because it's bountied, flag it.
 
I did flag it
(linking to the meta post, too)
But I'm impatient
^_^
 
user3956566
:D
 
user3956566
hang on looking for my pitch fork
 
Any way, thanks for the help, @MadaraUchiha ^_^
 
I took it to the list and would have been patient
 
1:33 PM
Isn't Meta basically a voting mob, in situations such as these?
 
user3956566
@bummi I think that's wise, the question has to be a clanger to get those flags approved
 
It is
 
Yes. But it is public so it is okay.
 
Not sure if serious :p
 
Hm, the bounty got awarded? Did the OP manually accept the answer for the bounty?
 
1:34 PM
Hi won't get it
 
He already got it
 
Indeed?
 
user3956566
it's public and like this google.com.au/…
 
Wouldn't it be good to add questions as a screenshot to prevent the "meta voting mob"
 
He manually awarded it
 
1:35 PM
@Cerbrus Yes the OP awarded it.
 
@NathanOliver Figures...
 
user3956566
@Thaillie I've tried that.
 
I thought you can't get it back .... interesting
 
Do bounties awards stay if the question is deleted?
 
I think so
 
1:36 PM
After a perdiod of 60 days(?) yes
 
Before the 60 days
 
I doubt it, but not 100% sure
 
I guess we'll see soon enough. it's got a delete vote now
 
user3956566
someone gave a good link to that. you keep your votes if there's at least 5 and a min time frame
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus you need to be careful, not to make it a mission
 
1:37 PM
No worries
 
No, it shouldn't be deleted.
 
Imo: Laame </cartman>. But I guess that makes sense
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha let time take it's course yes?
 
@MsYvette It's rare for a question to require deletion.
 
Apparently not, the post was locked
Come on, this is a blatant code request
 
1:39 PM
It's even rarer for a question with a voted, accepted, good answer to be deleted.
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha I liked the answere
 
user3956566
it took effort on the part of the answerer
 
A question like this on would have been deleted within 10 minutes
 
IMHO, normal users should not be able to delete anything within 10 days of it being closed.
Let roomba handle it, and if it can't, give OP the chance to fix it.
And if they don't, then look into deletion.
 
A good answer on a crappy question doesn't make the question any better or more useful to future visitors.
 
1:40 PM
And not a minute before.
 
user3956566
I think the answerer may have learnt a lesson. he was dealt with pretty severely despite the bounty
 
@Cerbrus Sure it does.
It's the answers that make the site useful to visitors, not the questions.
 
I thought I was pretty cool with my 304 days visited streak. Until I found out VonC has somewhere around a 2400 day streak o.O
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns I'll get your mind off this... just think I'm never going to
 
So, if I post a crappy code request, and answer it myself with a awesome solution, the question should stay?
Heck no
 
1:42 PM
@Cerbrus Half the canonicals I award are like that (albeit more general and written to be better applicable to large audiences).
@Cerbrus It should be edited, not deleted.
 
And you think the OP is going to edit that?
Even after replying to concerns about the question being a code request?
 
@Cerbrus Doesn't have to be OP.
 
Oh come on
 
Deletion is a last resort, it should only be used when all other measures are tried and ineffective.
 
"but it's not perfect for me." is the only reason the OP posted it
 
1:44 PM
I'm, of course, not talking about spam and things like that.
 
Who can possibly improve that?
 
it might be kinder to delete the question just to save the OP/answerer's reputation from taking a hit due to the meta effect.
 
Side-note: could you guys take this conversation to a private room? It's beginning to be a little spammy.
 
user3956566
Madara can we edit it and improve it?
 
Oh, and no-one's gonna edit a locked post, @MadaraUchiha.
 
user3956566
1:46 PM
Hm interesting, the answer hasn't posted relevant code, left it in a github repo, so it's more or less useless
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus exactly
 
@Cerbrus Only locked it to halt the meta effect.
 
morning!
 
So, how long does a lock like that last?
 
user3956566
hi \o
 
1:47 PM
(Actually, are those timed?)
 
@Cerbrus However long I make it (in this case, permanent, until cancelled explicitly).
They can be time limited
 
user3956566
I'm starting to agree with @Cerbrus if it requires a dropbox and github repo, it's not even a good fit as an answer
 
Eh, so you want the OP to be improved, but meanwhile, you made it impossible to be edited.
 
@Cerbrus Sadly, locking is a nuclear option. All or nothing.
If I could only lock the "delete" button I would have.
 
Hello Gunr o/
 
1:49 PM
Morning Gunr
 
For now, I just want things to calm down before allowing the post to be modified again.
The meta effect has its place, but I think deleting is taking it a bit too far.
 
How many posts get deleted due to the meta effect, daily?
Plenty.
 
Hi again
 
hola
 
@Cerbrus Moderators not having the time/energy to look after every single meta affected post, doesn't mean that the meta effect is always a positive thing.
That's like saying "But everyone run this red light officer, why did you pull me over?"
 
1:51 PM
Aha, Madara and Cerbrus engaged in the sand-pearl discussion?
 
Shh, don't distract us ;-)
 
@MadaraUchiha How am I supposed to get accepted flags if you delete the flagable post? ;)
 
@NathanOliver FFITW
@Cerbrus do you know why we have the Reversal badge?
 
I don't think the "everyone's doing it" example is fair. Users have earned the ability to delete posts. Apparently plenty of users agree with the requirement to delete the post.
 
@Madara, why don't you leave a comment like josilber? :P
 
1:53 PM
@MadaraUchiha Because it's shiny?
 
@MadaraUchiha (ref red light) Specially since OP posted what he tried.... another off-topics question...
 
Because one can inspire an OP to improve the question
 
Again, it doesn't have to be OP that improves the question.
 
But do you honestly believe this OP can be improved?
 
1:54 PM
Questions can and should be edited to apply to more general cases, if it doesn't invalidate existing answers.
 
In short I'm tilting towards Madara's side :P
 
Now if the answer he gave were crap, then I'd have no hesitation whatsoever
(And even then, just close, not delete, let roomba do its job)
 
So, how far should we tolerate crap, if the answer's a pearl?
 
Don't tolerate crap. If the answer's a pearl, optimize the question. If it cannot be optimized, downvote.
 
Regarding the roomba: This answer got extra attention due to the bounty, getting more upvotes that it would've gotten without the bounty.
Once again, if the question wasn't bountied, the question would've been deleted already.
@BhargavRao: Good luck improving this question
 
1:59 PM
@Cerbrus Shog9 had answered a question similar to this situation on Meta.
I'd upvote the answer and downvote the question.
 
Link? Or general gist of the answer?
Upvoting the answer that shouldn't have been posted in the first place, on a question that should jut have been deleted?
 
@Cerbrus Don't judge the answer by the question.
 
That's rewarding people for incorrect responses to crappy questions.
 
Sam
> Stack Overflow, here to help with all your crappy questions.
 
Judge it individually.
 
2:01 PM
Okay.
 
@Cerbrus I am searching that...
 
(And to be honest, the more I look at it, the less I like that answer)
 
The answer has it's code in an external site
 
Downvoted posts depict crappy content
 
not on SO
And a adequate description of what's going on, but nothing that's great.
It's well formatted, sure.
 
2:04 PM
Maybe if ^^ was closed OP would not have done his mistake...
 
I just don't get why a turd of a question like that has to have the right to be polished by a decent answer? Let the OP get his question right, first.
 
True, If w/o the bounty ... It'd be crap and stuff.
 
user3956566
I've posted a Q on meta, if anyone is interested
 
The problem is SO doesn't want to lose good content
Be it answer or be it question.
 
user3956566
2:05 PM
the answer to the bounty question is not good
 
user3956566
@Tushar great Q :D
 
@MsYvette I was just posting the link
 
yep, that's offensive
clearly he doesn't like java, he should try c#
 
Sam
Join the dark side, we have cookies.
 
@gunr2171 Follow Up Question: If Java was replaced by PHP there? Would it be less offensive?
 
2:14 PM
I would have upvoted
 
@BhargavRao .......no comment....
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao call in the exorcist!
 
PHP isn't that bad :p
 
Lol :D
isn't that bad --- But very bad
 
user3956566
Everything tagged with is more offensive
 
2:16 PM
@Thaillie cough cough
 
Just open and there is like 800K of possible questions to close votes :p
 
JAL
Morning all
 
yo!
 
user3956566
speaking of which, I've been on a witch hunt tonight, posted another crappy meta question (which I should delete really) and must now go and plough through . I shall return for hugs and warm cocoa later
 
2:17 PM
holla
 
user3956566
\o
 
Hey JAL o/
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao Ajit will be on soon
 
Nice, My call is scheduled tomo night 2AM. So I'd get enuf time to sleep tonite :)
 
@MsYvette php should not be a punishment
 
2:18 PM
@JAL Thank you JAL for the last reopen vote on the meta question :D
 
JAL
np
Sorry I haven't been active lately. I've switched jobs. I'm now working for A&E Television Networks as their senior mobile engineer. I'll be working on their mobile TV video apps.
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 erm gunr that supports php as a punishment.. :D
 
Yeah, I know (hence the joke)
 
user3956566
@JAL nice and congrats :)
 
JAL
ty
lol
 
2:20 PM
@JAL make sure you leak all the plot points
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 oh irony within irony... You missed my post. I went to the doctor today and was diagnosed with EOPHPD
 
Who's up for deh TF2 tonight? looks at @JAL and @gunr2171 and @Thaillie and also pings them shamelessly
 
JAL
That's a good way to get fired, and I'd rather not on my second day :P
 
@JAL Nice
 
@JAL Congrats and ATB :)
 
2:21 PM
@Kyll yep, let me make an event
 
JAL
@Kyll If I can leave work at 5, maybe. But now that I'm not working hourly I can't ensure I'll be home early enough
Thanks all
 
@JAL Hurray for job switchers \o/
 
JAL
Speaking of, how's your new job @Kyll?
 
@JAL Amazing! I still have no idea what I'm supposed to do, but I'm eager to do it!
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It's my second day today
 
JAL
haha nice!
 
2:22 PM
@Kyll Sure :)
 
I think I hate disappearing one-boxes more than I though I did.
 
well, I can't get the url when I upload with chat
 
@gunr2171 That happens alot just browsing the store page :p
 
so I need to edit it afterwards
 
2:24 PM
Just leave the one-box >.>
 
too late
 
@JAL I basically work at the (translated) Teaching League, which is a 150 years old Association promoting popular education (kind of a Big Deal over here). Their federation here in Tours has 3 rooms that they want to use for a hella lot of stuff (co-working space for young associations, Fab lab, ...) and they need someone to organize the whole thing. That's me.
 
woot, got a cv in before Madara closed it
 
JAL
very cool, good luck!
lol
 
@Kyll That sounds pretty interesting
 
But what is the off-topic off-topic reason? (I think I know the answer...)
 
funny yes, but to be serious, not allowed
 
@DavidG It is! I get to make the whole project, more or less from scratch, and then I'll have to recruit more volunteers to help and also I'll have to do some animation with children around coding and create a local antenna for (translated) Code Travellers which is an association promoting the learning of programming
And lots more stuff
 
SO much crap in the last days again in the PHP tag... I feel like I'm on a rep-whore farm
 
Not surprising :/ (for the first part of the statement)
 
2:38 PM
@Rizier123 I had so much fun downvoting a Camp 4, who then proceeded to repost the same answer which I downvoted again =D
 
@Kyll Yeah, I know what you mean. Someone posts a LQ or just wrong answer, you dv it. They delete and repost it, you want to help them and give them useful links how to write a good answer but that gets ignored.
Really frustrating such stuff
 
@Tushar What is with that Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla?
 
@BhargavRao removed
 
@Tushar Look at his previous question, he already has an accepted answer for the exact same question.
 
OP deleted
@Mogsdad Partial dupe, userAgent cannot detect iOS app, but Broad.
 
VLQ
 
JAL
Flagged as NAA and commented
 
It is an answer, though
 
@JAL Flag declined and commented
> declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it
 
It is borderline but I would not flag it as NAA
 
2:56 PM
See?
NAA flags only ever get accepted on answers that make no attempt at answering the question
 
JAL
I have had no problem flagging borderline link-only answers like these as NAA in the past
mine is still pending, we shall see
 
Sam
Maybe the LQPQ reviewers have "higher" standards.
 
@JAL Let us know what the result was :-)
 
JAL
@Cerbrus promise I will
 
Reminds me to ask Mr Brown bout the custom flag
 
3:04 PM
@JAL It also depends on if a mod sees it. After x minutes (I dont know how many) NAA flags go into the mod queue. sometimes you get lucky and the LQPRQ takes care of it before they see it.
 
quick let's all go into the Queue :P
 
Is a NAA flag more likely to be declined if the "answer" was up-voted, e.g.?
 
Maybe in the queue if people use that as a guide of the answers usefulness.
 
sure. Maybe marginally. This stuff is half psychology.
 
Votes shouldn't influence it
keyword: shouldn't
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3:20 PM
it's funny how sometimes people double-down their bets with NAA versus just acknowledging that the answer is wrong
 
Just got in my SO mug and the Mug Overflow jokes have already started within the team
 
Congrats
I chose XL as my Tshirt size, I did not know then that XL in US is way way large. Now it looks like I am doing an advert on Use this to become thin when I wear that shirt :/
 
@BhargavRao Given that they're shipping internationally, I'm guessing they'll use human scale sizes, not whale.
 
XL in usa is whale
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@MadaraUchiha I always buy XL shirts here, the SO shirt comes till my knees.
Also @KevinBrown status on that custom flag?
 
3:28 PM
@BhargavRao Marked as helpful, looks like the mod cleaned up their answers
 
@KevinBrown Good to hear, It has got Larsoned away.
 
user3956566
I'm looking forward to logging on tomorrow for more negative rep
 
@MsYvette Why?
 
user3956566
someone has taken to downvoting me every day or so, it's gotten more regular
 
user3956566
3:33 PM
@Tushar yeh
 
@rene The problem with "Goodmorning" is that it's a spelling mistake as well as a greeting. (The editor already removes "Good morning".) I've updated the regex to allow for that missing whitespace, as well as to recognize "mate(s)" as a salutation. See regex101.com/r/yS9lN8/6. (PS: Will also remove pirate salutations!)
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad ah so you don't remove those, a script does?
 
@MsYvette Well, I push the button and take responsibility for it. But, yeah. We've taken to calling it Magic Editor, but it's our own fork of the Stack Exchange Editor Toolkit. Our fork is currently here. I'll move it into the SOCVR script repository at some point.
 
user3956566
nice work
 
user3956566
 
3:38 PM
...Was probably instructed not to use a search engine, on the take-home-test. Instructor didn't mention getting someone else to answer the question...
 
user3956566
:)
 
Not actual spam, valid with removing spammy content
 
@BhargavRao Good luck on turning this into a not-VLQ post
 
I went with VLQ
 
^^
 
user3956566
3:50 PM
@Closey next 5 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@MsYvette The next 5 tags are: 50, 44, 36, 33, 30
 
@Kyll I'd edit it to make it from spam to VLQ, but many have already flagged it as spam. So I'd just refrain.
 
@BhargavRao Not really worthy of your time anyway
 
oh come on BR ! An unreg user, now deleted, 3 flag types going at once, and an edit !
 
Yep. True that.
 
3:51 PM
@Closey These are same as last week
 
@Tushar Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
of course you dont
 
user3956566
@Closey next 10 tags
 
@MsYvette The next 10 tags are: 50, 44, 36, 33, 30, 29, 29, 27, 26, 25
 
What is the max number?
 
user3956566
3:53 PM
15
 
@Closey next 16 tags
 
@BhargavRao Sorry, that's too many tags for me. Please choose a number between 1 and 15
 
user3956566
you didn't believe me
 
Magicâ„¢ Editor v 1.5.2.56 is available!. Fix for spacing around punctuation, improved summary extension, removal of tags from titles works everywhere now, better handling of leading & trailing spaces that are Markup, and even more spelling and grammar correcting magic.
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@MsYvette If I did not I would have asked next 10000 tags. :D
 
user3956566
3:54 PM
@BhargavRao very true! :D
 
@SmokeDetector That was deleted as spam, but what do we think of the question?
 
@KevinBrown protected by Community♦ 6 mins ago
 
It's a shopping list... too broad.
@Tushar Auto magic because of the number of deleted answers. Has no bearing on us.
 
@KevinBrown Too Broad by a mile. Or 1.60934km.
 

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