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14:01
Is that Q: a question someone's asked on SO? Or are you just asking now?
@TigerhawkT3 I've already close-voted SO Q., but finding answers :P
Not sure what to do with this one (flagged as NAA) stackoverflow.com/questions/1434411/…
The good old SO in 2009 days
seems like the question should be closed, as it is soliciting opinions?
@DavidArenburg It's VLQ, but upvoted... Move on =p (cimmanon might have a point but I don't know the tech at all)
@Kyll Its a NAA, not a VLQ and back in the day, EVERYTHING was highly upvoted
Or maybe almost everything
@cimmanon I was thinking about it too. Maybe could be a Code Review material. Though its too late now to migrate
Here's a highly upvoted tool request party back from 2009 stackoverflow.com/questions/1397097/…
14:11
@Tushar Huh, you know who she is.
@KevinGuan Who? No.
@Tushar Guess.
@KevinGuan Use the input even instead of keyup.
More responsive.
@KevinGuan wife? GF? Friend?
@Tushar One of our room members.
@MadaraUchiha Ohhhhhhh....don't know that before.
14:14
@KevinGuan You said she, there's only one I know, MsYvette?(just a guess)
@Tushar Or cimmanon
@Tushar Sure...not. Closey!
HI all........
@MadaraUchiha I still think he's joking
14:15
its the swearing that threw you off, isnt it? i swear as much as a construction worker :p
_/\_
@Tushar namastae..
@cimmanon Depends on which construction worker
Hi @David ..
@AvinashRaj hi
14:16
@Tushar Don't try to make me doubt my knowledge about the members here.
@KevinGuan Closey is he
@Closey start
@AvinashRaj Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
@Tushar Nope, Sam said she's a girl :P
Dec 5 at 11:40, by Avinash Raj
is closey a girl?
I wonder if Sam is girl? as all the BOTs here are girl(according to Kevin)
Oh @Sam deleting... ^^^
14:18
@Tushar There are no girls on the internet.
@KevinGuan :-) What to do, Boy's thinking is always on girls..
Sam
Sam
@Tushar ... You will shortly disappear.
@MadaraUchiha but there are in this r00m
@Tushar Nah, Pham and Yam are boys.
@AvinashRaj Remember that she's a bot girl.
Sam
Sam
I'm reworking the room info page on GH atm. cc @rene
@Sam He's still here.
@Tushar Because most of the bots are made by Boys..
@KevinGuan No, I'm not, can anybody hear me
Sam
Sam
For those that care. Closey is female. Pham and Yam are male.
@AvinashRaj so? all ships were made by boys, but they are always referred to as "she" :p
14:20
@Sam And Sam is?
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan A chatbot.
@Sam Oh?
@Sam female or male?
Sam
Sam
@rene Just some cleaning. Nothing big :)
@KevinGuan is Sam a bot?
14:21
@AvinashRaj Yep
@AvinashRaj Yes, she is
@Sam OK
@Tushar she, good catch.
@Sam commands
Sam
Sam
@Tushar I'm sorry, I don't understand that.
14:23
@Sam help
Sam is not..
Sam
Sam
@Tushar ಠ_ಠ
You guys are kidding..
Sam
Sam
It's a long standing joke. ;)
Since I make quite a few bots...
Sam is our dearest friend who after sleep acts as BOT
14:24
@Sam I still haven't figured out the authentication dance with Stack Overflow/Stack Exchange's chat.
I want to create an OS SE chat client with NodeJS, upon which you can make bots more easily.
Sam
Sam
@MadaraUchiha Would you prefer to read some C#, or for me to explain?
@Sam Show me the C#, if I'll need help, I'll ask :P
Sam
Sam
It's all here.
One is for sure, we at least got one female and one male bot in here, because they keep getting more and more! There are already more bots in this chat room than real people.
@Sam How's Pham doing?
14:28
@Sam What's the entry function here?
@Yam stats
I just had the urge to learn C# for no other reason than to constantly refer to it as D-flat.
Yam
Yam
Posts being watched: 301. Posts pending review: 14.
Sam
Sam
@MadaraUchiha The class's constructor.
@Sam Ah, missed that last line there
Thanks
Sam
Sam
14:29
Np
@Yam commands
Yam
Yam
commands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prints this beautifully formatted message.
stats ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Displays the number of posts being watched, and closed and edited.
check grave <number> ~ Posts a list of edited closed posts (default of ten, unless specified).
help ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pretty self-explanatory...
die ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I die a slow and painful death.
Sam
Sam
@Tushar Fine, thanks.
@Yam check grave
Yam
Yam
Digging up graves, one moment...
55% changed, score +0/-5: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34407911
53% changed, score +0/-1: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34457624
52% changed, score +0/-4: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34372606
50% changed, score +1/-1: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34381342
48% changed, score +0/-6: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34362065
44% changed, score +1/-7: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34357297
41% changed, score +0/-3: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34331577
41% changed, score +0/-2: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34431922
40% changed, score +0/-4: http://stackoverflow.com/q/34388707
Sam
Sam
14:29
Recently updated a few things, so he should be more stable.
@Sam It's Yam.
@Sam What is the percentage
Sam
Sam
@Tushar How much the question has changed, when compared with the latest revision to the revision before closure.
@Tushar ?
No 007 for this, no idea why
Sam
Sam
You said Pham though.
Confuse all the things \o/
@Sam Oh, so Yam will catch reopen votes
Sam
Sam
14:33
@Tushar Kind of, yes.
He looks back on our cv-pls'es.
To see if they might be reopen-worthy.
@Sam Sometimes I say Sam to bot by mistake
Sam
Sam
Oh, right. lol
@Sam Great
So sleep time. Morning/Afternoon/Evening/Night everyone/bots/Sams!
Sam
Sam
Night!
14:35
Sleep Well
Sam
Sam
#13 ready for review. cc @rene, @gunr, @nathan
Night, Kevin!
@Sam
using (var res = RequestManager.PostRaw(cookieKey,
       "http://stackexchange.com/users/authenticate",
       data,
       "https://stackexchange.com/users/login",
       "https://stackexchange.com"))
What does this mean?
Post to this, then to that, then to that?
Sam
Sam
No no, post data to http://stackexchange.com/users/authenticate, with https://stackexchange.com/users/login as the referrer and https://stackexchange.com as the origin.
14:38
@Sam Obviously, lol
Wait, the referer is important?
Who needs named fields anyway
That might be why I was getting 404s
Sam
Sam
@MadaraUchiha IIRC, yes.
Although, I'm getting 404s at a later stage (i.e. at the chat authentication stage), IIRC
I haven't touched the project in a long time.
Sam
Sam
14:40
@Kyll Magic strings ftw.
I should probably refactor that class some more.
@MadaraUchiha Well, they did recently (couple of months ago?) change the auth process.
@Sam I'm good with it, I'll wait for backup of the other RO's before I merge that
Sam
Sam
Ok
afk
15:05
Four answers on a typo. #SOproud
Upvoted all of them! Yahoo Answers rulez!
@TigerhawkT3 whats even more shocking is that a moderator answered it and then closed the question
#SOsurprised
With that, it's time for me to sleep. Night, all.
Sam
Sam
Back
Lemme guess, fifacoin.
2 messages moved to Trash
sorry Sam
Sam
Sam
15:20
np
15:38
@Sam so let's see if I got this straight
The object's state is a cookieKey which identifies it in some cookie storage singleton
You log in to the openid in the constructor
and to the appropriate chat server when you're asked to join to a chat room
The Room object is responsible for handling WebSocket connection?
Sam
Sam
15:53
@MadaraUchiha Yep
I see.
Last time I thought I had troubles with the cookies
But it may have been the referer
Well, since it was revamped since I last touched the project, it might be a good time to start anew.
@KevinBrown Voted but wondering if there is any SE site where these will be on-topic, if yes then those can be migrated
@Tushar Open Source, but most of these are too old to be migrated or would be duplicates
Sam
Sam
@MadaraUchiha When I first started, I had trouble with both.
@KevinBrown Oh
16:10
@sam do you have a link or two url samples of rss / json /xml feeds to SO content blocks. I don't have them handy at the moment from yesteryearr. Like if you want a quick pulse update of a Question status
Sam
Sam
@Drew Erm. So what, an rss feed or do you mean the ajax url thing?
i remember firing off an http request at the question id level once that brought back just either an xml output or json or something just for that one question IIRC. No word verbeage and code blocks of the question (or even answer I believe). But just the high level numerics and last update dates. That sorta thing
Like the header if you will (key metrics)
Sam
Sam
http://stackoverflow/posts/ajax-load-realtime/{id} is the only thing that comes to mind.
Unless you're thinking of the API?
I will try to find it somewhere. Thx
thx. And no, not the API
Sam
Sam
Whoops, missed the tld.
16:20
cuz I just woke up !
Sam
Sam
:27769095 I missed the tld in my example.
@Drew Np, sorry I couldn't help anymore.
That's all that I can think of atm.
I will let you know when I find it
Sam
Sam
k
afk
stackoverflow.com/feeds/question/34481568 so that is one. Here is an article on meta meta.stackexchange.com/questions/151519/… That said I thought there was a much leaner url out there that had no question block just metrics
17:00
shouldn't the tag in title go as well @Drew?
thx
np, I'm just being pedantic as always
@sam the payload size of at least this Question and Answer Feed is less than 1/10 the size of its Q equivalent. Further upside: structure ... Downside missing details like comment count, Accepted Answer etc ... but it does have rank
payload size determined by the likes of msft/telerik Fiddler of course
user4639281
17:28
@rene While intentional, probably not necessary.
user4639281
shed is probably more common as shed than as a typo of she'd
Phew, happy to hear that because @Mogsdad already fixed it...
user4639281
Lol, fine then.
user4639281
So how is everyone today?
17:41
op says typo
user4639281
17:58
@TinyGiant slow sunday
get that truck some 94 Octane gas for xmas tg ?
@Drew Guaranteed to blow a cylinder that way!
you guys ever send sea foam thru your carb?
user4639281
@Drew My truck always runs 94. It doesn't like any lower.
sea foam can make for a great practical joke
user4639281
18:06
Sea foam is horrible stuff.
user4639281
Any time you're "flushing" carbon through your engine you're doing something wrong
never do it in your own neighborhood. Bless another town with it
user4639281
lol
user4639281
18:24
@Sam just one line note, otherwise it looks good.
user4639281
18:39
18:59
I have no idea why that is called morbid humor. Normal humor.
@cybermonkey Also quite unclear
user4639281
^ that
Sam
Sam
19:16
@TinyGiant Yeah, auto-correct.
user4639281
K
this user is amusing, they changed their name
One guy looks for an answer. One Answer Guy instead gives reviews for Impact Drills.
evening all
Plop
Sam
Sam
19:27
Hiya
user4639281
Hey o/
@Drew Yeah - that was a weird one ;)
@JonClements Possible for you to sort out stackoverflow.com/users/5583058/fak-ya-all? Wasn't sure if a mod flag is justified.
Yeah... just about to do that :)
@cybermonkey For all we know it could be an Elbonian name or something
19:31
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
Tiny Giant has removed an event from this room's schedule.
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
Umm... you are flagging these and not just pinging me, right? :p
Sam
Sam
Tiny Giant has broken the system for this room's schedule.
2
I flagged the last one. Should I flag all 3? what is the protocol
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
@Drew Commented on one
19:35
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
It's triggered an autoflag anyway - so no need to worry too much
/me finds it very weird to see someone other than rene setting the room's events!
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
That happens when you let you go ...
I really hope he gets so fed up with that interface that he writes a script for it ...
user4639281
Lol, I do have the console open...
@Jon - I mentioned yesterday that a user posting and deleting comments "in quick succession will alert the spam/abuse detection systems?" - did I make that up? I can't find any reference to it in meta...
19:41
@WaiHaLee not such a thing for comments - if you suspect that's happened then you can flag a post and ask for investigation - mods can see all comments by a user (deleted or not)
@Jon - Ah, okay. Thanks. No need to flag - in this case I think the user didn't know they could edit comments, and I was @ mentioned so kept getting notifications.
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
Tiny Giant has removed an event from this room's schedule.
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
Tiny Giant has removed an event from this room's schedule.
Sam
Sam
19:59
@Tiny More spam please.
user4639281
will do. Just trying to get this system figured.
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
Tiny Giant has removed an event from this room's schedule.
Tiny Giant has added an event to this room's schedule.
With a little bit of practicing he must get it right....some day ....
user4639281
More spam...
Sorry Tiny, I love to make a little bit fun of you in public ;)
user4639281
20:09
I don't mind :)
Guys - can someone recommend a link (one of many no doubt) for this meta post please?
@JonClements maybe this one, or this
user4639281
@JonClements The user just posted this answer as well
user4639281
@rene I think the user really should be pointed to the FAQ questions about how to review in each queue.
epic answer from Brad
@TinyGiant yeah, agree
user4639281
20:17
where are they now lol.
@TinyGiant like this one and this one
user4639281
Yeah, should have looked in faq-proposed.
@JonClements we've done our bits, do you want us to help out more?
user4639281
Please see: How should I get started reviewing Late Answers and First Posts? and Is there a guide for Triage?. There are countless other questions on meta about how to review in each queue, and if you are unsure of what is expected of you in a queue or really in any situation, and cannot find a question about it here or on meta.stackexchange.com then please ask a question about it. — Tiny Giant 53 secs ago
@rene When doesn't Brad given great answers? :p
20:24
true
@rene nah - that's great - thanks all!
user4639281
We really should have a bonefide FAQ for what is expected in each queue, and then link to each one from that queue.
Certainly wouldn't hurt to have a proposed-faq with all the gory details - shame there's not a room of talented people that do it every single day sighs :p
user4639281
Yeah, where could we find a collection of people who spend their days reviewing stuff?
pass... I'll ask google -:)
user4639281
20:28
Well, I guess I should go do some research and start compiling some documentation...
21:07
that had a delete vote ...
@Rizier123 why didn't you just spam flagged that?
I did both, just in case :P
delete flag wasted ...
@rene not the end of the world :)
For me that is the end of the world! A whole delete flag! Imagine the things you can do with .... oh wait ...
It's like that old joke: "I may not be able to spell Armageddon, but it's not like it's the end of the world"
21:23
:D
Did you suspend anyone recently for 9999 hours that you made that edit?
most I've ever suspended from chat is for 1344 hours
Ha
user4639281
Why not 1337?
wouldn't that send the wrong message?
user4639281
Depends on how you interpret it I guess...
21:32
scarily - I know all the multiples of 24 :(
user4639281
Well that can't be good.
well... the main site suspensions are in days - not hours
@TinyGiant I've seen some FAQ simply being copied over
user4639281
Basically the only things that are not covered are triage and the h&i
user4639281
21:36
@rene Yeah.
user4639281
Should we discuss it in here, or take it somewhere else?
We can handle it here me thinks?
user4639281
I think we should make a github repo to start compiling as much information on each queue as we can, then merge them all into a single document for each queue. Then we can make a Q&A pair for each queue which I think would make it easier to reference the relevant information for each queue.
best scam message ever: i.sstatic.net/vTorC.png
@TinyGiant OK, sounds good
user4639281
21:42
What is the faq-proposed to faq process? Surprisingly there is nothing tagged both and
@TinyGiant I think someone will retag to FAQ if pressed hard enough?
user4639281
lol
Maybe we need to take hostages...
^ And needed at least three answers to point it out
user4639281
Ok, so should the repo be on SOCVR, my repo, or what?
21:45
I'm happy to create something on SOCVR
Sam
Sam
Later that day... The GH org vanishes...
@TinyGiant are you an owner on SOCVR?
you're not :(
Sam
Sam
@rene Nope
@TinyGiant Name? socvr-review-guidance?
We can ask @Sam to coach us
user4639281
No one made me an owner there yet? Geez.
Sam
Sam
21:49
That'll be £4.99/hour.
So many people don't use 2FA. ಠ_ಠ
user4639281
> Parse error: Currency symbol not in recognized list, converted to: '$0.00 CAD per hour'
Sam
Sam
@rene Were you being serious?
@Sam is that after tax and with tip?
Sam
Sam
For SOCVR memebers, yes.
@Sam you better keep an eye on me before I screw up there...
Sam
Sam
21:52
Has Tiny been added yet?
@rene Aye Captain.
@Kyll 50k rep answerer is annoyed at being downvoted :p
@Sam yeah, I made him owner @TinyGiant
You can screw everything now @TinyGiant please be careful
Sam
Sam
k
user4639281
I won't will :)
I put that caution out in public so we have it on official record
Sam
Sam
21:55
And now forever logged by Closey.
And Pham.
user4639281
So SOCVR-review-guidance?
Sam
Sam
Is SOCVR necessary?
I mean, it's already going to be under the org, so...
that ^
but the naming of the other repo's is similar
hence the confusion
Sam
Sam
Suggestion: SO-review-queue-guidance-from-on-high
user4639281
Yeah.
Sam
Sam
21:58
I vote for renaming the repos.
user4639281
SO-review-guidance-and-magic?
@Sam I rather pay that 4.99 now and send you off to home ...
Sam
Sam
Sounds good.
Why did I assume you liked that

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