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00:42
Plop!
@Pham Are you ill again?
@KevinGuan Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
Okay.
@Closey stats
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Wooooooooowwwwwwww!!!!!! LOW THAN 6k!!!!!!
Let me remove 40 from it.
@Closey starting
@KevinGuan May the Vote be with you!
00:49
@KevinGuan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Closey May the Closey be with you!
@KevinGuan Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
passed ruby audit
Kevin passed a audit!
00:57
@WaiHaLee Some people learn best by programming, and some video tutorials actually explain things. Unfortunately there are also a lot of terrible video tutorials out there made by programmers who just learned how to make something, and those tend to be pretty terrible
passed ios audit
01:08
33 questions left in , the next tag in the great legal cleanup
@KevinGuan You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 21 minutes, averaging to a review every 32 seconds.
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02:04
So, I really hosted my app on PythonAnywhere, click here if you'd like to play it. cc @TigerhawkT3 @BhargavRao
Again, I'm not good at CSS.
02:26
@KevinGuan Cool stuff!
It seems to get thrown off by periods. This:
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ă̢̦͓̣̯͕̖̈́̽͌͡͡s̢̥͇̣̝͓̱̪̱̈́̀͗̀̑̀̆͞d̴̞͇̘̝̝̱̃̊͊͗̐͗̆̓̓͜͡f͔͓̜̱̝̀͐̽͒̀̐̚͞͡
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Turns into this cleaned text:
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asdf
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@KevinGuan you have unnecessary vertical scrolling caused by an unnecessary height: 100% on your html/body elements
Although that seems to be caused by an implementation detail from the generator I used, which includes those periods apparently as a sort of line marker or placeholder for the zalgo characters.
02:43
@cimmanon Ahhhh...don't ask why did I put that in my CSS.
@TigerhawkT3 Huh, because these are dots, so it doesn't remove them.
Yeah, I guess it depends on what is considered Zalgo's domain.
Normally, my app saves all space, punctuation, and other ASCII chars.
why do you want to unzalgo text? i figure most people would want to make zalgo text :p
@cimmanon Yeah, and if you want to understand what did they say, then you may need this app :P
So finally, I made another very useless JustForFun™ program :P
02:58
i dont have any "fun" programs :-(
you guys sound like you are having too much fun
@cimmanon Then go to write one :P
@Drew lol
i am writing up all new descriptions for all of my web designs/programs, which covers 15 years worth of content right now. very boring >.>
I am writing an html parser. Equally exciting.
arent there already html parsers written in whatever language youre using?
03:06
not fast enough. This is for a service that has to scream. Plus it doesn't need all that bloat functionality
@cimmanon Hmm...good luck.
@Drew What language?
@Pham stats
5,809 need review
183 reviews today
3,017,182 reviews all-time
yeah, i cant work on the design (visual or application) anymore until i flesh out more content: cimmanon.org/preview2
@KevinGuan 3 of them: c#, scala, c
@cimmanon Wow, pretty website.
@Drew Good.
03:15
thanks
03:26
Similarly, I should probably put all my little Python projects on Github or something.
03:44
@TigerhawkT3 I already did :P
@Drew Note that that question was just edited by its author, so now it doesn't request an off-site resource.
i just saw that lol
he musta seen the last answer a sec ago, and the close(1)
04:21
I've voted to close this question as "too broad," but that's not exactly why I'm here. The first image that the OP linked to is vaguely disturbing. If it is porn, then the post needs stronger medicine than just being closed as "too broad." Can any of you tell what it is?
I'm trying to go through the Github desktop app and I can't even get past step 3... it tells me to create a branch, but the button to accept/create the new branch is grayed out. Do people use GUI programs for git stuff? Or should I be using the command line?
@WayneConrad not sure what that is
Oh my. Someone edited the picture to put it inline. That doesn't improve this question.
@WayneConrad Me, also put the code back.
maybe it's a colonoscopy
04:31
I just tried to access the tutorial by selecting it from the options menu like it told me to, and now the tutorial won't show up at all...
@Drew You're not making it seem less disturbing :D
well frankly I was afraid to click 10 min ago
@TigerhawkT3 People use GUIs, but in my experience they end up in trouble for it. CLI is best for GIT, and only use a GUI that will tell you what CLI commands it is using. GUIs that hide what they are doing... Visual Studio, I'm looking at you... cause nothing but heartache in git
someone could just replace it with a picture of mickey mouse. the picture is not important
no, Bongo, from Life is Hell. Matt Groenig
Do we have a tool which can covert a image to code? I don't want do it manually again... (huh, actually OP posted his code in comments, I just copy it into my vim and added some new lines...but I see another one: stackoverflow.com/questions/34477517/print-location-of-a-string)
04:34
they spawn like rats @KevinGuan
No idea what you're talking about.
np
@WayneConrad Yeah, the basic "get started with Github" seems to explode into a pile of steps, each of which having at least three components, each of which having at least three steps, extending indefinitely. I've already uninstalled the desktop app and will probably delete my Github account (half an hour after creating it).
@Drew Very few people know about that strip. It was pretty good.
@WayneConrad Bongo is my favorite. I kinda relate to him
04:41
@TigerhawkT3 I comprehend your frustration. git is difficult to grok. Once you get it, you'll feel like the power of the universe is at your fingertips, but until then, it's just painful.
@Drew Ackbar and Jeff always made me laugh, but Bongo is awesome.
Is there a programming project site that isn't painful? Sourceforge, Activestate, etc.?
user3956566
@WayneConrad it looks wrong, I'm not sure what it is
@MsYvette Thanks for looking. Maybe it's what passes for porn on Omicron Persei 8.
user3956566
@WayneConrad I edited to remove the image with an edit description, removed image until mod can review it, and made custom flag
@MsYvette Very rational. Thanks.
user3956566
04:55
@WayneConrad I got a 72, 42 and 21 year old man and a 45 year old woman, none could make sense of it, 21 yo son said remove it, sister said, it looks like something innocent made to look dodgy. So that was my jury panel :)
Y'all are, as always, a source of help with interesting posts. Thanks for helping. I had no idea what to do.
user3956566
It should be flagged as unclear as what you're image is lol
back
BTW, found a cool OCR which really can covert an image of code into text...but sometimes it'll covert ( to C and other issues...remember check the output before edit the post.
user3956566
@Drew has tiny updated that search on number cv scripts?
not sure I have not updated. Mine is 1.0.0.9 one way to tell is click on link and see if it matches your written down version # before you try an update
or I am 1.0.0.10 or something. I have been busy on other stuff
user3956566
05:08
thanks
@MsYvette Edited, I think it's clear enough now.
user3956566
k retracted vote
user3956566
05:29
close vote queue down to 5.7K
@MsYvette Well, rollbacked...my bad that didn't figure out it's a homework question...
user3956566
@Closey next 20 tags
@MsYvette Sorry, that's too many tags for me. Please choose a number between 1 and 15
user3956566
@Closey next 15 tags
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@MsYvette The next 15 tags are: 92, 52, 37, 35, 35, 32, 31, 31, 31, 31, 30, 29, 28, 27, 26
05:42
@Pham stats
5,815 need review
322 reviews today
3,017,321 reviews all-time
Wish that number can be 4.8k tomorrow.
@MsYvette I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
This looks like very cunning spam to me. stackoverflow.com/review/first-posts/10693485. It's a very old Q that has already an accepted answer plus a few others and the blog linked to is the only article written on 26th. ????
user3956566
You have no more close votes today; come back in 18 hours.
05:45
@MsYvette I don't seem to have the start of your review session on record. I might have not been running when you started, or some error happened.
user3956566
@Trevor custom flag? you do it or I do it?
@MsYvette I have no more flags left.
I will bookmark for tomorrow though
06:04
I don't see a problem with the blogspot. It is .in for country TLD. The guy shouldn't be pushing people to blogs but nothing fierce there
At least it is not joe_schmoe.com as the target url. That drives me nuts
Every time someone enters or leaves the chat, I see movement out of the corner of my eye and think it's a bug crawling across the monitor before remembering that it's just the animation.
@Trevor I think it just low quality. That user seems isn't a spam bot. I've edited and removed the link. But you still can go to flag it for mods since I'm not sure.
Want say this after just finished my edit, but the network doesn't allow me do it :(
Oh, also commented.
Well, this person posted a same question two times (check my comment). Should I vote to close the first one dupe the last one? Seems little strange but OP answered the last one instead of the first one...
06:19
@TigerhawkT3 I thought my screen fried at 2am a while ago: stackoverflow.com/questions/32329055
06:30
thanks @KevinGuan. You are lucky, you can edit without having review, my edits have to go through review and when I've done that in the past it's been knocked back. It is the best way to get rid of these ?spam components.
@Trevor Hmm...It depends. However I saw a mod removed a third party link from a correct answer before. So I'd say: If an answer is really an answer. There's a link maybe spam but after remove it the post would become a good answer, then edit and remove it, comment and tell the author don't do it again. But if it's just a spam post, then flag it.
And don't worry, you'll get 2k soon ;)
07:30
attracting
08:18
guess it's too late... user is now black listed and can't be removed from the black list.
NOT a spammer.
Today has not been great for me.
user3956566
@Trevor hi looks like @KevinGuan took care of it :)
@MsYvette yes he did :)
:P
@TigerhawkT3 What's wrong?
@ShadowWizard Nope, actually: 1. fpu can't move an user out of blacklist, it can only move an user into white list. 2. I think fp or tp don't have time limit. 3. You can always manually move an user out of the blacklist via !!/rmblu <user_profile_url>. <--- All IIRC or I think so (except 3), @ProgramFOX Am I correct?
08:36
@KevinGuan I had an argument or miscommunication with nearly everyone I interacted with today.
@TigerhawkT3 No idea what you're talking about.
Outside of SO, I mean.
08:53
@KevinGuan Correct * 3. :)
@TigerhawkT3 Ah, fine.
@ProgramFOX :P
@KevinGuan yeah, turns out someone removed from black list in a different room. And I wonder why Smoky didn't reply at all here? Maybe I'm not privileged here.
@ShadowWizard Oh yeah, try !!/amiprivileged.
!!/amiprivileged
@ShadowWizard No, you are not a privileged user.
09:00
@ShadowWizard No: privileges are per-room.
I could of course add you here; would that be necessary?
@ProgramFOX nah, not visiting here enough to justify it.
Tavern is enough :)
!!/coffee
@ShadowWizard brews coffee for @ShadowWizard
huh, at least I can drink ;)
09:02
@TigerhawkT3 Close it!
!!/blame
@KevinGuan It's TigerhawkT3's fault.
@ShadowWizard You can also blame (TigerhawkT3) :P
"Does somewone know where i can buy Fresh GOOD SMTP servers?" -what's a fresh server?
@Drew Reported ^
09:08
thx
too broad, to everything
going to bed
09:29
@Closey stats
5,913 need review
575 reviews today
3,017,574 reviews all-time
Hmm...that number now become 5.9k...better than 8k.
@KevinGuan you can indeed see a trend down: socvr.azurewebsites.net I wonder if Shog9 is turning his filter wheels again...
@rene Wow, great site :D
09:59
@Mogsdad @TinyGiant in this question the word shed in ...max value hasn't shed too much... was auto-corrected to she'd I don't think that is correct?
This is basically a "give sw recz," but I just so happen to have already done something close to what's asked for. The codez I could give are 45 lines. Too broad? Not a good idea? Or go ahead?
@TigerhawkT3 I would call it too broad
So answering is spoon feeding. Isn't there a dupe that you can answer and close that question against?
@rene Closed as dup. Why didn't I think of that earlier?
I just wrote some Python code to search through Python code. Pyception.
10:24
@TigerhawkT3 because Sunday?
I wanted to try to edit IDLE.
10:38
... and you failed? :D
That remains to be seen. :P
I'm still looking at PyShell.py, trying to find the best way to shoehorn in some "run selected code" functionality without making it explode.
any suggestions how I can improve this question?
I guess it's being dv'd because people think it's unreproducible, but as evidenced by the accepted answer, this was completely incorrect.
11:10
Well, it is your call but calling out users like you do in this comment Obviously by the answer you can see that Steve was completely incorrect about 'not reproducable' is not going to help.
Sam
Sam
11:51
Morning
Morning
Morning
Plop!
Sam
Sam
Hiya
11:58
Just invited user to chat. Kinda going AFK now, ping me if anything requires a Spearrel.
What does Spearrel mean?
Sam
Sam
Sure
So it is: ping me if anything requires a Sure
wat?
Sam
Sam
... No, I was replying to Kyll.
:P Then what does it mean?
Sam
Sam
12:03
Spearrel == Squirrel (in Kyllish)
lol, Kyllish
Then what does Plop mean? It's also Kylish huh? :P
Sam
Sam
No idea.
Dec 10 at 9:09, by Kyll
Polp is to say good bye
Well, got it.
@KevinGuan The same as Smurf in Smurfish.
I NEED A KYLISH TRANSLATOR!!!
12:20
@Tushar How to overcomplicate things haha
@Kyll Oh, was trying to answer some Javascript question yesterday. But when I open the Javascript tag...I don't understand anything...
@KevinGuan You have to turn your brain off to browse this tag.
@KevinGuan brain off
@Kyll I̶͔̱̘̝̘̬̋͂͆̚͡ͅ d̶̢͖͕͍̱̖͐̈́͋̔̿̔̀̏͟ơ̷̥͍͈͚̗͖̟͎̂̎́̎̓̊̕͟n̴̞̝͕̣͙͆͛̍̃͟͝͞ͅę̷̲̝̪̩͚͗̔̂̈́͒̽̐͘̕̚͜.͕̊̆̈́͋̈́̒͂͜‌​͚̝̤̱͔͜
@Kyll So, where's the JavaScript tutorial which you recommend?
@KevinGuan Voting to close your face as a tool rec
But the one I really liked was You Don't Know JS
How to close my face?
12:27
Make a high velocity meeting with the keyboard
@Closey stats
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@Kyll Failed to answer :(, removed
This question needs to be closed --> stackoverflow.com/questions/34471487/…
12:39
@black Why? Please check our rules, every review request needs a reason. Tagging your message with also helps.
Sorry, @Kyll. That question is largely OT.
@black Okay, but you have to explain why. If it's a tool request, say so. If it's about an external service policy, say so too.
@Tushar It happens ^^
@black Like the above one of mine.
Incomplete Code ^^^
@black See above requests. Kevin is saying he thinks the above post should be closed as unclear, while Tushar things the above post doesn't provide a MCVE.
12:44
Thanks for saying how it should be done! I hadn't seen the FAQ page (first time here)
@black We actually have a bunch of user-scripts to generate the requests =p
@black Check it please, there's some useful user-scripts, and also some rules which you need check if you want chat here and join us :D
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Thanks for the link, @KevinGuan.
How's possible that the SO page is (much) shorter than the one on GitHub?
Because we'd like put everything on Github :P
Was kidding, I also don't know.
@black The SO Team page only contains essential informations. The GitHub contains a lot more stuff, including scripts, bots, poems, ...
12:49
@Kyll Then why we don't put everything on Team page?
@KevinGuan There's a link to the GitHub. I guess it's to avoid clutter and data duplication...
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan For the sake of brevity.
Ah, so it's: If you want to know what's SOCVR, you only need check our Team page. And if you want join us, you also need check our Github page.
Kinda so I guess
how about that?
12:57
Correctly!
Purrfect
This question looks like a bug report. I'm investigating ...
@black But I'd recommend use our user-script to do that automatically. It's very useful. Check it out!
Sam
Sam
@black Welcome to the brotherhood. ominous music
@Sam the botherhood? Crap, sounded different in mah head. Like bott-herhood
@Kyll Sony is in the same league as Microsoft/Google/Apple ....
Sam
Sam
12:59
@Kyll Lol
I don't know if I would lump MS, Google, and Apple together...
"[cv-pls] should not be a habit for users." What does that mean? I mean, you've got a script for that...sounds self contradictory or perhaps am I misinterpreting it?
@black When you vote to close something, don't immediately it. Only do so if you think it deserves special attention for a quick closure
See, I knew that someone will answer it before me. So I was not about to answer it.
Sam
Sam
13:04
@Kyll in theory*
@TigerhawkT3 In my understanding of the world they are equal ....
Oh gotcha. Then it's not that useful...
@black For example, you don't need a question which is asking for How can I write an OS? since it'll be closed soon.
<--- user.
Sam
Sam
In reality, most Qs are either tagged with a high traffic tag (hence quick closure to prevent FGITW is valid), or tagged with a low traffic tag (hence closure before the votes age away is also valid).
So...
13:06
Sam Sam Sam
right?
@black Basically we don't want the chat cluttered with requests, and we're not an alternative close vote queue.
Sam
Sam
^
@KevinGuan ?
@rene To me, they're polar opposites. Yes, there can be three poles.
Where FGITW = ?
Fastest Gun In The West.
13:08
@black Fastest Gun In The West
Sam
Sam
Fastest Gun In The West
@Sam Nevermind, was thinking about you want to say Sam is the best! :P
People shooting answers at light-speed
Sam
Sam
Dammit GG xD
13:08
^ Basically that XD
LOL
Got to see a FGITW live!
Generally these answers are of poor quality and quickly edited to hide the trash
It's generally not that much of an issue except when it's on off-topic questions
The trash is edited out if we're lucky.
a lot of them are also posted to duplicate questions :p
Combine FGITW with a question unclear or lacking an MCVE and you get a lot of uneducated guesses which are worthless
Sam
Sam
13:10
And the answers sometimes just point to said dupe
@Sam Or are copypastas of the answers on the dupe, too
Sam
Sam
Yeah
afk
@KevinGuan Wouldn't that have been closed anyway since it's in a "high-traffic tag"?
13:17
@black Well, I meant that: It'll be close soon, maybe before someone in SOCVR see that request and open it so don't need bring that into chat room and spam us. :P
@black it would have been a victim of fgitw. a lot of new users dont understand that such questions are off-topic and try to be "helpful" by posting answers linking to their favorite lib. such users are highly unlikely to be able to answer "how do i write an OS" :p
Is it OK, if I recommend a deletion vote here?
we do delete vote requests from time to time for burninations
@KevinGuan Thanks
13:22
@Tushar oh look, its Praveen Kumar, answering duplicate questions again
@cimmanon Yeah, seen him doing this many times
where he answers than votes to close?
and see he is the one who has dupe hammered the question
Should this be flagged?
oh look, its Praveen Kumar 95% of SO users, answering duplicate questions again
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@Tushar nah, i would leave a comment about it and link to this meta discussion: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/286072/…
13:24
@TigerhawkT3 Most of the times, answerers don't know about the dupe, but when you know this is famous dupe or see the comment as possible dupe of ..., it should not be answered
he already deleted his answer
@cimmanon So, I guess he is going to delete vote
Let's wait...
Most of the time, low-rep answerers don't know about the dup. The high-rep ones, though? They know it's a dup, because almost all questions are dups. I'll sometimes hammer a dup with both the new and canonical questions having an answer from the same user.
13:28
Huh, Reopened
Most useful programming information is available on SO, but SO does not mostly consist of useful programming information.
why...
Commented/asked
@Sam Beat me.
13:29
@KevinGuan You made that image macro pretty fast...
I almost answered a question today, but then I dupehammered it instead.
@TigerhawkT3 :P
@TigerhawkT3 WE ALL DID THAT.
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan We don't all have dupe hammers. :p
@TimCastelijns Plop!
@Sam But we still can vote to close :P
its depressing following a low traffic tag when you dont have mjollnir. take the time to find a duplicate to close it with, and some lowrep comes along and answers it :-(
13:35
@cimmanon I guess it's ok if a lowrep/new user answers a dupe, but a highrep should vote to close
That happens in high-traffic tags, too. I'm lucky to get two minutes to hammer a question before someone (or 3+ someones) answers it.
i understand why it happens (oh look, a question i can answer without googling!), i just wish it didnt
Sam
Sam
Simple solution, just Q ban everyone.
@cimmanon And then there are high-rep users who answer the question and flag it as a duplicate...
13:41
The problem with "a question i can answer without googling" is that one could also answer that question with Googling. And the answer would probably be on SO in an existing, duplicate question.
For the vast majority of questions, anyway.
First answering because you can't answer after dupe-hammered. And then closing as dupe, so that others cannot add answer, strategy.
@TigerhawkT3 Can you find a dupe for this? I couldn't find one: stackoverflow.com/questions/34479812/…
@KevinGuan Searching now.
@TigerhawkT3 Waiting now.
@rene shed ->she'd is a rule that was inherited from the original script. I've checked through the words it would fix, and there aren't enough problems to merit keeping the rule. I'll kill it off.
apostrophe_d: {
expr: /\b(he|she|who|you)[^\w]*(d)\b/gi,
replacement: "$1'$2",
reason: App.consts.reasons.spelling
},
13:48
@Mogsdad LOL: "I don't really want an answer that says 'i hed the exect saem problm an i manaeg to feix by flud fil wone pixle owt fur evry itration'".
@Mogsdad OK
@NisseEngström Yep - given the rest of the answer... kinda presumptuous, don't you think?
@KevinGuan Hammered.
String/byte/Unicode/encoding/codepage stuff is such a headache.
Q: What is the gift you've got/given for Christmas?
13:54
this year?
@cimmanon No, next year :P
Sam
Sam
@Tushar The gift of knowing I've closed more trash.
my husband and i dont really exchange gifts. if we want something, we buy it
@cimmanon husband, I thought you're husband
13:57
^ Yep
Sam
Sam
facepalm
@cimmanon No prob. Kevin have gifted you this
pfft
@KevinGuan I remember you saying that you don't celebrate Christmas
NO, THAT'S NOT FOR HIM/HER.
13:58
@KevinGuan Then, for whom?
Or you've got it as gift

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