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7:00 PM
@Kyll oh
for some reason it bought up the edit history for an unrelated question when I clicked your link
 
@cybermonkey wat²
 
@JonClements Not sure if you're around, but could you please take another look at meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/305388/… when you have a chance? Unfortunately I didn't have too many takers to carefully review the suggestions, but Deduplicator left a comment agreeing with the first list (the top 9 suggestions), other than proposing to flip and (which I agree with).
 
user4639281
I just had someone try and tell me that .925 means silver plated.
 
user4639281
Like I haven't been buying and selling silver jewelry most of my life.
 
@TinyGiant You want the .999 stuff :)
 
7:08 PM
Stupid design flaw (OT fun :D): thenextweb.com/insider/2015/09/07/…
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@TinyGiant Actually, the 18k is where it's at.
 
user4639281
I've never seen .999 ever in my entire life.
 
user4639281
.999 is to soft to make jewelry from. And I don't deal in gold.
 
@TinyGiant This comment thread is getting pretty big, get him to chat?
 
user4639281
I don't think he can be pinged here.
 
7:16 PM
Well, get him to an SU chat or something
he is on SO though so he can also come here
Thanks @cybermonkey
 
@TinyGiant I've seen it in bars bought as an investment.
 
user4639281
@LynnCrumbling I could see that, I deal in jewelry though
 
@TinyGiant Just curious.. why no gold?
 
user4639281
@LynnCrumbling Too much of an investment to carry enough of it to make it worth while, plus it becomes a liability then.
 
And were they telling you that (that .925 is plated) as a potential buyer or seller? Because is it was a seller... "Oh, okay then.."
 
user4639281
7:21 PM
@LynnCrumbling As a seller
 
Bummer.. :)
 
user4639281
They were trying to sell me silver plate.
 
Oh... hah
yeah...
 
user4639281
And telling me that their silver plate was real silver
 
Take a knife to it :)
 
user4639281
7:22 PM
and that all of my 925 was silver plate.
 
Oh christ.
 
@durron597 ping someone to edit it if it bothers you
 
user4639281
I almost pooped a brick
 
@approxiblue I don't know if I'd say it "bothers" me, it just "concerns" me. But thanks.
 
I really wonder why we are now moderating Super User answers...whose idea was this?
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7:29 PM
Take SU moderation out of this room please.
 
@durron597 Sir yes sir
 
Ok, let me clear this: @mattburnett I think the answer in its current state is not adding that much value but the links you found are useful given the generic question. Please be so kind to edit the relevant bits in with proper attribution.
 
@mattburnett This discussion is over in this room. You may discuss it in the tavern, or on Super User, but you're done here.
@mattburnett Yes, I understand that, but he isn't continuing to talk about it, but you still are.
 
Now it's just a silver conversation :) Feel free to trash that too :)
 
*and
 
Sam
@Dur Well I've found one of the bugs, fixing it now...
 
So @TinyGiant are you a jeweller?
 
@Sam great
 
So I got my 10th gold badge today
Hooray for humans operating in base 10!
 
7:36 PM
@durron597 Congrats!
 
@Kyll Thanks, though it's still pretty lame because half of them are Steward badges
 
@durron597 My first gold was Fanatic, how's that for lame?
 
@Kyll I only got that recently. I'm pretty sure my first gold was CV steward
My second was Electorate almost a year later
 
@Kyll My first gold was Unsung Hero...
 
@Siguza Okay that's sad
 
7:38 PM
@Siguza I don't even know how I'd begin to get that badge.
 
My second badge was Steward for Triage a few months later
 
my first gold was unsung hero, followed by fanatic :p
 
@Kyll Did you get any of those bounties btw?
 
@durron597 Well, at least I have a badge that Jon Skeet doesn't have :P
but yeah, he still has more "nice answer" badges than any other person has badges at all
 
@durron597 you get it by contributing tags that are notorious for getting few to no upvotes on accepted answers :p
 
7:40 PM
@durron597 Actually, yes!
 
@Kyll Nice
 
Waiting for the other one, my answer is not entirely satisfying but I went as far as I could in a reasonable time spam
 
@Kyll There's a pretty significant chance your one upvote there is mine, but I won't entirely confirm that.
Hopefully you get a second upvote so you at least get half the bounty even if OP never comes back.
 
@durron597 There's a very significant chance I knew this, since as soon as I said here I answered two bounties I got an upvote one each =p
Thanks a lot for the support
 
@Kyll I think the site will be well served by you getting 3k.
Alright, AFK for a bit. gotta get some real work done
 
user4639281
7:47 PM
@Kyll No, but I've been selling stuff since I could.
 
@durron597 Heh. Hope I'll live up to the expectations!
@TinyGiant Ah, nice
 
user4639281
I've operated different types of retail operations, from a table on the side of the highway (actually highly lucrative) to full stores, in a variety of places. Most recently my wife and I bought a consignment business (dumb idea) and we're converting slowly from used to new.
 
That's highly unexpected and highlier impressive ^^
 
user4639281
For anyone interested, don't ever buy a consignment business unless you enjoy having many bosses.
 
user4639281
I currently have 7000+ people who think they're my boss.
 
user4639281
7:55 PM
You should see the look on their face when I make it clear to them that they aren't
 
Er, what is a consighment business?
 
user4639281
I sell other people's used crap
 
user4639281
Except that I'm extremely picky.
 
You only take sellable crap?
 
user4639281
I only take it if it is brand name and like new.
 
7:58 PM
I see
For some reason I assumed you were a software developper
Well, I assume everyone around here is one
 
user4639281
I build websites on the side.
 
You have spare time to do so while maintaining that business?
 
@TinyGiant Do you hit flea markets or yard sales?
 
user4639281
@LynnCrumbling oh yeah
 
I'd think that would be your bread and butter :)
 
user4639281
8:02 PM
@Kyll I wrote software to handle the business for me.
 
user4639281
All I do is put numbers in the computer.
 
user4639281
The rest is magic
 
@TinyGiant Haha, that's badass
 
user4639281
Believe it or not, there is no viable consignment software on the market.
 
No kidding?
I'll write it. Want to help me design it?
Well, you did already.
Nevermind :)
 
user4639281
8:04 PM
Well.. I wrote one lol.
 
<grin>
 
user4639281
But I haven't released it yet because it isn't.... stable.
 
What's it written in?
 
user4639281
And it's written entirely in es6
 
user4639281
+ HTML & CSS
 
8:05 PM
Googling for consignment software gives a ton of results...
 
user4639281
Actually put any of it into production.
 
What was the biggest shortcoming that you found?
 
user4639281
I should say there is no complete solution
 
user4639281
Handling 7000 sellers.
 
user4639281
Splits for different sellers
 
8:07 PM
Oh...
wow ...
 
user4639281
Paid outs vs Buy outs vs Credit Sales.
 
you would think that would be a main feature.
 
@JonClements - we need a mod to delete this for the third party cleanup. stackoverflow.com/questions/4265858/…
(We're still moderating in here, aren't we?)
 
user4639281
You would think so, but the main users of those applications are places that consign cars or furniture etc.
 
user4639281
Where you have a much smaller client base.
 
8:08 PM
Seems like it's essentially just an accounting system....
debits=credits...
But also an inventory tracking.
 
user4639281
It is similar to quickbooks mashed into a regular POS and inventory system.
 
This is getting large in scope.
 
user4639281
But there are yet more features required, specialized reports
 
user4639281
etc. ad nauseum
 
Yeah, you're painting a pretty good picture.
 
8:10 PM
shockingly terrible answer from a user with nearly 200k rep ><
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A: how to use multiple text fields and combo boxes to write to a file?

camickrLooking at code from your last question I think you might be able to use the Text Prompt. This will allow you to display a prompt in the text field when it is empty and then keep any text the user enters. and finally we have a SAVE button. So now when you click the "Save" button, you just c...

 
@TinyGiant So how much time (in man hours) do you estimate you've got in your system?
Feels like the answer would be expressed in high man months or man years.
Especially if it supports all of those features and has extensive reporting...
 
user4639281
Hmmm.... 4 months * (4/5 but up to 12) hours per day...
 
Explain the down vote? Have any of you looked at the OP's last question? — camickr 1 min ago
@TinyGiant 5 days a week?
 
user4639281
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user4639281
That quieted down about a month ago, now I'm just looking for bugs.
 
user4639281
8:14 PM
When I bought the business it came with 29 years worth of hand-written history.
 
Ouch
Hahaha
Who are all the people afraid to explain the reason for the down votes? Children will be children. — camickr 2 mins ago
Please downvote him more, I want more whiny comments
 
user4639281
And it isn't by any means complete yet, most of the features are half-implemented or hanging on by a thread because I simply don't have the time or brain power to handle everything all at once. But development goes like this "Wife: We need X feature now! Me: OK /starts working Wife: Stop what you're doing, we need Y feature now! Me: OK.... etc"
 
user4639281
And then "Why isn't X working properly? I thought you did that last month. Me: /facepalm"
 
Is it Open-Source?
 
@Kyll is this what normally passes for answers in the java tag?
 
user4639281
8:19 PM
Well, it only exists on my hard drive.
 
user4639281
I'd say that is about as closed as it gets.
 
@cimmanon What do you mean? I didn't understand the words you spoke
@TinyGiant Is there any existing software like that on the open market?
 
@Kyll that guy's answer, is that what normally passes for an answer? i mean, with that kind of rep, youd think he would know by now what constitutes a good answer
unless he got all of his rep by posting crap like that
 
@cimmanon Well, @durron597 could say more about it, but I have seen kind of two categories of Java Q&A
 
@cimmanon he got 10k rep for this alone stackoverflow.com/a/1128728
 
8:22 PM
You have the Lawful category, of people trying to actually get down to issues and solve problems and make the world a better place
 
user4639281
@Kyll Each part of my system can be accomplished using one or more existing systems, but it seemed like more work to make all of those existing systems work together and educate my sales people (and wife) on how to use it than it was to create it myself.
 
And you have snippet whores
 
@TinyGiant Wow. You need to hire an intern for some.... ahem data entry.
 
@approxiblue That is absolutely the very thing I qualify as snippet whoring
 
user4639281
@LynnCrumbling Ha, I just put the balances into the computer and put the history in storage.
 
8:24 PM
That'll do.
 
user4639281
phug-em-all
 
@rene waves hands hey!
 
@LynnCrumbling \o
 
Do you have a moment to talk business?
 
sure
 
8:26 PM
Ok... looking to get some .h signatures into pinvoke format... I've done this very minimally before...
 
Just because you guys don't understand the context of the question, is it any reason to down vote the answer? I have pointed the OP in a different direction to help simplify the problem without giving the OP the entire solution. There is nothing technically wrong with the suggestion. If you are upset I gave someone help on a poorly worded question, then say so. — camickr 35 secs ago
 
@cimmanon Hahaha yes!
 
@Kyll The comment on that answer from Joey really should be in the answer.
@cimmanon So he just admitted it's NAA.
 
Another downvote and he flags it himself
 
flags what? the question or his answer? or is he going to flag his own answer with the "halp, i am being harassed" reason?
 
8:40 PM
^ dead link-only
 
@cimmanon The three things?
Guyz
 
user4639281
@Kyll ?
 
A name for the main namespace of a library designed to add latency to client-server communications for the purpose of mimicking a production environment?
 
user4639281
Simulatency?
 
@TinyGiant This has been carefully examined and then unanimously agreed upon
 
user4639281
8:53 PM
@Kyll I'm still waiting for someone to VLQ flag it then edit to get the community downvote.
 
user4639281
@Kyll Lol
 
There's a term for that in video game architecture
though it means something sort of different
 
(afk)
 
to handle the differences in response time between two clients
something like Time Synchronization
or Latency Compensation
 
8:57 PM
@cimmanon @Kyll camrickr has a reputation for answering really crappy questions.
 
I would just call it the TimeSync library because you'll be sinking a lot of your into it getting it to work
 
He's the vks of the Java tag.
 
The Regex Farmer
 
I wonder if there are any questions with >10,000 views and <10 score
 
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Q: Get restaurants near my location

user188995I've trying to find a suitable Google Places API that takes in "My Location" and returns the nearby "restaurants". Currently, I've been able to find only restaurants in a "particular" city. https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/place/textsearch/xml?query=restaurants+in+Sydney&sensor=true&key=*MyK...

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Q: Could not find the main class: Program will exit

MattWhen attempting to compile and run my program in Eclipse SDK this error pops up. Ive never encountered this error message before and other posts are not very helpful. What could cause this?

 
9:00 PM
wow 127k views
and no votes
 
-3
Q: ORA-01830: date format picture ends before converting entire input string

TJRThe SQL works fine on most installations. However I'm having a problem with an Oracle installation in Canada (possible date localization issue?). http://www.google.com/search?q=ORA-01830 I'm feeding data to a proprietary processor that generates the SQL. I only provide data. I was hoping for...

 
lots of them
 
Oh, I forgot about the .. feature
though over 100k is more than I was expecting
 
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Q: a href onclick javascript function

user1165815I am printing the contents of the pop up on the link click: In the beginning I had : <a href="javascript:printDiv('popup-other-directions');" class="button"><span>Print Directions</span></a> function printDiv(divName) { var printContents = document.getElementById(divName).innerHTML; ...

^^^ over 20k views, no answers, not closed, no votes.
 
9:03 PM
68 questions with over 1 million views and so far most of them are about git
if I were git I would take that as a sign I need to write better documentation
 
@TylerH Git developers deliberately mess up their doc to help grow SO
 
I see
They must be Haskell users
 
Is it me, or are these two leaning a bit too hard on the "we're not a free coding service" horn? (the question is how to modify a regex in a working Perl script) stackoverflow.com/questions/32511304/…
 
@PaulRoub I agree, but currently there's a lot of bad blood about regex questions generally
 
user4639281
@durron597 Something should eventually be done about this situation. The comments are getting pretty rude.
 
user4639281
9:20 PM
Neither of those comments are constructive.
 
user4639281
And the question isn't even that bad.
 
@Closey starting
 
@rene Watch out for audits!
 
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 2 hours.
 
@PaulRoub There was a meta discussion recently that basically said Regex questions are bad
 
9:26 PM
@rene The review session has been marked as completed. To set the number of items you reviewed use the command last session edit count <new count>
 
that's probably where the comments are stemming from
 
@TylerH Not exactly the same thing. Latency compensation is the fact of predicting a state before you actually know it has happened
 
@Closey last edit count 39
 
@rene Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
@rene - there is a nice pile in third party
 
9:27 PM
@Closey last session edit count 39
 
@Kyll Right, hence my "though it means something sort of different" line :-P
 
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@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 1 minute ago and lasted 5 minutes and 42 seconds. You reviewed 39 items, averaging a review every 8 seconds.
 
^^
 
9:27 PM
@TylerH I was mostly amused by the gnashing of teeth vs. the actual level of effort involved.
 
And delete votes needed for source.
 
@Mogsdad those will have to wait till tomorrow...
 
@rene No prob... anyone else is free to have at them!
'later!
 
@PaulRoub yeah, both comments are unhelpful
the first one is quite rude
 
@Mogsdad voted
I'm out... need sleep...
 
9:35 PM
@TinyGiant I've flagged them both as not constructive cc @PaulRoub
@Mogsdad Wee just got a new delete vote. 21002 rep
And spent.
 
9:52 PM
You ever feel like we're responsible for stuff like this? cc @Mogsdad
 
10:27 PM
@durron597 If so, I'm sure it wasn't personal... that's a pretty unique moniker, I'm sure I'd remember it.
 
Anyone have an answer-delete-vote left for stackoverflow.com/a/32504712?
 
Sam
Let's hope I don't screw this up:
@Clo stop bot
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
 
But yes, from time to time when I've seen a highly voted question or answer that just shouldn't be here, I wonder how the loss of rep will affect people. Like that NAA @approxiblue mentioned stackoverflow.com/a/1128728 - do you think they'd notice a 13K point drop?
@Deduplicator Had gotten back one more downvote... spent.
 
Hey everyone! (SO Close Vote Chatbot started, linux!)
 
Sam
10:40 PM
\o/
 
Sam
11:04 PM
cv'd, 3 more left
And with that, night all.
 
Yam
Shutdown successful.
 
11:33 PM
@Closey starting
 
@josilber May Shog9's Will be done.
 
Excel audit failed!
But a lousy audit, since OP edited the post after it was closed and more or less addressed the issue that got it closed and downvoted... stackoverflow.com/review/close/9467362
 
11:54 PM
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@josilber Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
@Closey commands
 
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11:56 PM
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