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Q: Split and burninate [merge] tag

Nick VolynkinTL;DR My proposal is to split merge, replace it with subject-related tags and burninate. Answering the burninate manual: Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? No, no. Is the concept described even on-topic for the site? Yes, each particu...

man what a mess
 
 
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Sam
10:39 AM
@durron597 Lol, no thanks, I'll be alright. :)
 
Sam
11:12 AM
Tbh, there simply aren't any decent questions around nowadays (unless I write up another self Q/A), which is why I've stopped answering.
 
@Dustin yes, today at 20:00 UTC ...
@KevinBrown yes, correct, at 18:30 UTC, for the other side of the world.
Don't forget to check the schedule and subscribe off-course!
 
 
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1:55 PM
@Sam Not one decent question?
168
Q: How do I create a teardrop in HTML?

PersijnHow do I create a shape like this to display on a webpage? I don't want to use images since they would get blurry on scaling I tried with CSS: .tear { display: inline-block; transform: rotate(-30deg); border: 5px solid green; width: 50px; height: 100px; border-top-l...

 
2:05 PM
102
Q: Why do local variables require initialization, but fields do not?

nachimeIf I create a bool within my class, just something like bool check, it defaults to false. When I create the same bool within my method, bool check(instead of within the class), i get an error "use of unassigned local variable check". Why?

 
You can't compete with Eric Lippert
 
2:25 PM
Don't forget the event tonight!
Will we test the bot again @Sam @gunr2171 ?
 
we can
 
As it seems to break under stress we better do that to get some more forensic data
 
sure
 
OK, I'm out .. I'm a little bit busy...
 
have fun
 
 
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JAL
3:45 PM
Thoughts on closing this one as not a programming question? How tell the difference between a Debit Card and a Credit Card -> stackoverflow.com/questions/1479363/…
 
4:06 PM
Any thoughts on why this question was closed? I voted to re-open it a few days ago, but it's now gone: stackoverflow.com/q/30809051/372643
 
JAL
@Bruno probably because it is a "can I..." question that showed no effort. The OP was also asking for off-site resources: "I a willing to use whatever free libraries or whatever tools I need to answer this question."
 
It's certainly not too broad, and it's quite answerable.
It's also quite subtle since you do indeed need Python 2.7.9 or above (quite recent).
I think it's a fair question, tbh.
 
That typo link still needs one more @Bruno @JAL
 
@JAL Just CV'd that one with your custom reason.
 
JAL
@KevinBrown thanks
 
 
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6:00 PM
@JAL voted
@Bruno questions that are too broad are often still answerable
 
? I thought it's suppose to be jQuery?
oh, he only fixed it in the title
 
@gunr2171 When there were other major substantive problems with the question
Including the word "problem" in the question title which is now banned
 
yeah, "too minor" by any other standards
well, with great power comes spider webs, or something like that
 
His edit was from before he had a diamond
 
@TylerH, I think my point is that it wasn't really too broad.
 
6:26 PM
should we ban the letter i if it's by itself and not inside backticks
 
6:39 PM
FYI durron markup isn't applied in edit comments
 
Sam
@Rene Yeah it would be nice to test it again. I've released a patch that (hopefully) fixes that issue, so...
 
@TylerH Yeah I know, but I'm too lazy to change the auto comment.
 
@durron597 Well I would downvote it for the title alone
terrible title
 
@TylerH Yeah too many capitalizations I guess
 
too many words
too repetitive
wrong X in X of Y in Y while D
phrase chaining overload
@durron597 disagree
 
6:56 PM
@TylerH Ok can you improve it then?
 
I think it's probably close worthy
but it's very clear what he wants
he even spells it out in bold
I will edit it for grammar, at least
 
@TylerH it's clear what he wants, but it's unclear what he's asking
 
I haven't been blindly retagging, I've been doing some pretty major edits to these questions too
and I couldn't figure out how to edit that one to be not awful
@gunr2171 Good luck with that comment, it's from 2013
 
@durron597 (I'm not suggesting you're blindingly retagging or rushing or anything)
 
@durron597 true, I noticed that after I posted it
 
7:00 PM
anyway, question revised for grammar
 
7:12 PM
that answer is borderline link-only
 
I think it already crossed the border
 
(i'm assuming into the negative)
 
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A: Burninate? Great [success]

durron597I have retagged (and otherwise edited / cleaned up) all of the questions matching the following search: [success] -[ajax-success] is:question closed:no locked:no ajax I also cleaned up most of the ones that have both success and jquery that don't match the search. I suspect few of the remainin...

 
@gunr2171 yes
 
downvote applied
 
7:16 PM
76 down from 270 basically by myself. i need a drink
 
Man, did I manage to irritate Shog9 over on MSE...
 
🍹
 
@rene link
also welcome to the club
 
nice
 
7:20 PM
Not sure if I should continue on this road ;)
 
lol
bjb is asking for it
 
yeah he is. that's called "prodding the bull"
 
And yet he was surprised when he got such a bad response when he ran for SO mod
 
and now i'm looking up cat images to make a relevant post, what has my life come to?
 
7:27 PM
At least I'm not going to Bing it
Bing is not, and will never be, a verb
@Closey stop bot
 
@gunr2171 I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
 
well, let's try the branch again
bah, wrong room
 
Hey everyone! (SOCV Bot - wl branch test)
 
If someone isn't getting tracked please ping me. This is a fresh database and I've only included a few people
@Closey add user 1768232
 
@gunr2171 Ok, I added durron597 (1768232) to the tracked users list.
 
7:35 PM
@gunr2171 Does this mean that if I review at 0400 UTC I'll get tracked now?
 
probably
 
(and don't come in here to say starting)
 
well, this bot is running on my computer right now for debuging reasons
and I'll stop it when we are done, then switch back to normal
so for a while longer you will have to say "starting" outside of events
we're working on it, right @sam?
 
Sam
Er, what?
 
just say yes and nod
 
Sam
7:38 PM
Nods politely.
@gunr2171 Wait, is that for the test bot?
 
that's for when the master branch is running
 
Sam
Oh, right.
brb
 
JAL
I'm out of flags, could someone flag this as NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/31011955/2415822
 
flagged
going to write a comment
 
JAL
thanks
cool
 
7:40 PM
that edit above needs to be approved as well
 
JAL
yep that was mine, just edited the answer
 
oh, so it was. Didn't read that
 
@Sam I had 6 from before you rejoined the room, could you scroll up and tap them?
 
JAL
Thanks, that's a better comment than the usual "This is not an answer, blah"
 
7:44 PM
no problem
I always point someone to meta if I have the chance. It's better than summarizing the argument(s) in a single comment.
 
JAL
How do you guys handle asshats who don't understand the tags? stackoverflow.com/q/31008009/2415822
re: the comments
 
@JAL Might I make a suggestion? You should work to get your 3k rep by FGITW some crappy duplicates before getting so active in this room
 
Sam
@durron597 Sure thing.
 
Well first, if you're calling someone an "asshat", and they reply "Thanks for your irrelevant help.", YOU NEED TO STOP ENGAGING
 
Sam
7:49 PM
@durron597 yw
@rene That was caused by throttling (upon bot initialisation).
Which I fixed last night.
 
sweet, i'm running latest code now
on my own machine
 
Sam
Good. You should've noticed that "Initialising UserWatcherManager" took longer that before in that case.
 
yes, it did
 
Sam
Good, it's working. \o/
 
@Sam So not your fault?
 
7:54 PM
It's never the programmer's fault.
 
Sam
@rene Actually, yes. Yes it was.
 
I'm so in troll mode today....
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Blame the PM.
 
I can tell rene
and we're going to trust you with 40 review items?
 
apparently...
 
7:55 PM
> You are currently waiting to be part of the new navigation test group.
still.....
 
lol
I would make a post about it on Meta
 
> We activate users in tranches, randomly. There is no guarantee we'll use all candidates straight away. Last time a lot of people were confused by this. Don't be :-)
 
"I've been waiting for months now. Can we please just activate it?"
 
Sam
Weird, I was accepted almost straight away.
 
I OPTED IN THREE SECONDS AGO AND IT'S NOT WORKING, WHY? Just kidding, I'll be patient. — woz 2 hours ago
 
Sam
Event in 2 mins...
 
Syntax Error: 'these are the same ones as before' is not a valid close reason
:P
 
@Closey start event
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
8,193 need review
1,578 reviews today
2,657,935 reviews all-time
The tags to work on are: , , .
 
and the legal stuff
 
8:01 PM
@gunr2171 I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
gunr2171 passed a audit!
 
Can someone help out JasonMArcher
I'm having a hard time finding any very bad questions under [gnu]. I vote we give it a clean bill of health. — JasonMArcher 2 mins ago
 
Sam
So far, so good.
 
idea: put a link to the audit
 
Sam
Roger that.
 
person passed a <tag> [audit](link)
 
Sam
8:02 PM
I'll add that now.
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck! Note: You had 13 open sessions. I have closed them.
 
ignoring
 
13?
 
*ignoring*
 
@Sam I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
 
Sam
8:06 PM
Ok, nvm.
 
i was on a breakpoint, sorry
 
Sam
np
 
i was catching that line to see if it would flip out again
 
Sam
Ok.
 
SO blocked me
 
Sam
8:09 PM
Meh, just increase the poll interval on next boot.
 
I'll change it to 30 seconds from 15
 
Sam
k
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
 
Oh
 
sorry, long breakpoint there
and restarted the bot a few times
 
8:14 PM
Hey everyone! (SOCV Bot - wl branch test)
 
Sam
lol
 
@Closey next 5 tags
 
@Sam I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@rene The next 5 tags are: 92, 91, 87, 86, 65
 
I'm out of legal reviews
 
Sam
Eh.
Same.
 
8:16 PM
update "ReviewSession"
set "SessionEnd" = rs."SessionEnd"
from "ReviewSession" rs
inner join "RegisteredUser" ru on rs."RegisteredUserId" = ru."Id"
where
	ru."ChatProfileId" = 2246344 and
	rs."SessionEnd" is null
returning rs."Id";
so @rene, I'm guessing that the update does not use rs in the from
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
I'm not ready yet
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
 
Sam
Maybe we should add a pause command.
 
@gunr2171 I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
@Sam Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
Sam
8:19 PM
Well, there go another 40 reviews.
@Clo last session stats
 
@Sam Your last completed review session ended 51 seconds ago and lasted 2 minutes and 49 seconds. You reviewed 11 items, averaging a review every 15 seconds.
gunr2171 passed a audit!
 
Sam
@Gunr Here's the code for linking audits.
 
done with "[licensing] [open-source] [gnu]"
 
Sam
Change line UserWatcherManager.cs:L267 to:
message.AppendLink("audit!", "http://stackoverflow.com/review/close/" + audit.ID);
 
ok, i'll do that when I'm done
 
8:23 PM
@gunr2171 Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
I think I need to re-write some of the sql queries
NO, I"M NOT DONE YET
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
Sam
lol
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 28 seconds ago and lasted 5 minutes and 4 seconds. You reviewed 13 items, averaging a review every 23 seconds.
 
8:24 PM
No, I reviewed 40 items
 
@gunr2171 I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
 
it's because it started and stopped
 
Sam
^
 
and each time was a new session
 
So?
 
8:25 PM
first session was ~15 items, the second was the rest
so the last session was 13 items
 
Within the same day/hour I would say those session should be merged
 
IE: that needs to be fixed
true
 
OK
 
Sam
... and I set the idle factor to 5.
 
minutes?
 
Sam
8:26 PM
It's based on the user's avg. reviewing speed.
So, 5 * secs per review
 
I guess that is a specification fault? As it is never a programmers fault?
 
Sam
@rene No, this time it's the user's fault.
 
It's "not my fault"'s fault
 
WUT
 
starred to enhance the burn
 
Sam
8:28 PM
lol :D
So, besides tweaking the timeouts, it seems like everything's working fine, right?
 
and the "i'm going to close all the session", but that's my issue
also I've switched to twitter-bootstrap and it hasn't asked me yet
 
Sam
It needs sufficient data.
 
15 in each
 
Sam
How many reviews have you done for your current session?
 
hum, that might influence it
 
8:31 PM
@JasonMArcher I tried to find some as well and didn't succeed. I'm in favor to declare gnu healthy. — rene 13 secs ago
 
Sam
It needs 9 to start, then another 3 to classify a completed tag.
So...
 
you know, i'm thinking of changing the fundimental idea of a "review session". You should not be having multiple review sessions per day. There should be one "review session" where the day is the PK
you could have multiple start and end times, sum that up and you have your total time
 
that ^^^ is a great idea
 
Sam
Hmm, interesting.
 
Is it safe to start reviewing?
 
Sam
8:32 PM
At your own risk.
 
yes
 
@gunr2171 Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
BAH, I WAITED TO LONG
 
@gunr2171 I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
@TylerH I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
 
Sam
...
 
8:33 PM
,,,
 
```
 
Sam
***
@gunr2171 Will I need to change anything with the user watcher?
 
^^^
 
lots of good questions in the queue
 
@TylerH Yeah I reviewed last night, I burned through 40 in that tag
 
8:36 PM
@Sam probably not. It's mostly going to be changes to the DatabaseAccessor. I'm going to sit down and write it up before I do anything
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[open-source]"
 
Sam
Okie dokie.
@TylerH Just keep on reviewing. If the bot's working it'll noticed that automatically.
 
@Closey next 3 tags
 
@gunr2171 The next 3 tags are: 92, 91, 87
 
done with twitter
 
8:39 PM
@TylerH Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
@TylerH I've noticed you've started reviewing. I'll make a new session for you. Good luck!
 
yeah the timeout time is way too short
 
and done with my reviews
 
@gunr2171 Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@gunr2171 Your last completed review session ended 41 seconds ago and lasted 6 minutes and 50 seconds. You reviewed 10 items, averaging a review every 41 seconds.
 
8:41 PM
bah that's terrible
 
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 3 hours.
 
@TylerH You don't need to post this message anymore! When you finish reviewing I should notice it and record the end of the record.
@TylerH The review session has been marked as completed. To set the number of items you reviewed use the command last session edit count <new count>
@TylerH It looks like you've finished reviewing . Is that right?
 
@Closey Yes
 
@TylerH Ok, I've marked it as a completed tag.
@TylerH Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
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8:50 PM
@Closey last session edit count 36
 
Review item count has been changed:
User: TylerH (2756409)
Start Time: 2015-06-23 20:39:16 UTC
End Time: 2015-06-23 20:42:06 UTC
Items Reviewed: 13 -> 36
Use the command 'last session stats' to see more details.
 
rene has added an event to this room's schedule.
rene has removed an event from this room's schedule.
 
possibly (not sure)
 
rene has added an event to this room's schedule.
 
i'm out for today, bye!
@Closey stop bot
 
8:52 PM
@gunr2171 I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
 
bye
 
Hey everyone! (SO Close Vote Chatbot started, linux!)
 
Sam
Well, that's the first successful (non-fatal) debugging session we've had of the automatic sys.
 
congrats to the dev team
 
Sam
And I'm off too, cya guys!
 
8:56 PM
cya
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[open-source]"
 
@easwee bots dead
 
I know - I always post this here
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[gnu]"
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[licensing]"
all wiped
 
@Closey alive?
 
9:03 PM
@rene I feel fine.
 
@TylerH running the production/stable one now...
 
Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 2 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@easwee I don't seem to have the start of your review session on record. I might have not been running when you started, or some error happened.
 
@durron597 done those too
 
@easwee All 10 of them?
 
9:07 PM
@durron597 now yes ;P
 
@easwee thx
 
 
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10:29 PM
 
11:29 PM
Four people should have an easy time with questions in the queue, I just pushed ~40 tool recommendation questions into it
 

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