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12:49 AM
@AdrianMole My concern is that the question is a "do my work for me" question task. I wouldn't want PHP askers to believe that Stack Overflow is a welcoming place to get other people to do your work for free. If a question shows no effort, I don't see how a high quality answer would provoke me to upvote the question. (...but that's part of my personal voting algorithm)
 
@AdrianMole @Dharman I don't think it's the right close reason (I voted to close as "needs more foucs"), but it for sure doesn't deserve that many upvotes. It's basically a "gimme teh codez" qusetion.
 
@Nick Eventually people will realize that (at least) the Windows' Snipping Tool has a magic feature to identify characters and allow the copy-paste of those characters elsewhere.
@Chris I could definitely support a Needs Narrowing closure. "I need", "I don't need", "I need", "I only need" does not a good question make. This is a Requirements Dump.
 
@mickmackusa well, TIL. thanks for that. Not that I've had a use for it yet...
 
@Nick I think I've only used the tool (casually) when I need to parse someone's LinkedIn code screenshot and I want to test that their code actually works in 3v4l.org. Professionally, I've had clients email me screenshots containing vital textual info -- I use the Snipping Tool's magic wand on that to save a headache.
 
@mickmackusa I feel like I should get someone to send me something so I can put it to use!
 
1:02 AM
Ha. Well it worked a treat on that horrid phone captured screenshot image.
 
 
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2:07 AM
very unclear!
@mickmackusa did you forget something?
 
ha thanks!
 
2:55 AM
The LQA queue was cleared today. First time I've seen that happen since like May 2023.
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4:45 AM
pls-review the change history stackoverflow.com/posts/2521051/revisions I made an edit to remove the incorrect keyword that does not apply to the actual task asked by the OP. Another user has very opinionately (<- that's probably not a word) rolled back my edit and expressed that an incorrectly titled question should override the meaning of the question regardless of what the asker actually needs.
 
5:26 AM
@mickmackusa your edit changed the meaning of the question (deviated from OPs intent), I assume that's why the rollback happened. Yes, OP most likely didn't want trim(), but I've seen multiple times people using the word "trim" when they want "remove" instead, and for them the original title was/is more helpful.
a google search for "php remove &nbsp from string" even reports the "trim" page on the top results
 
6:01 AM
@Cristik I see this a very misleading problem. I have also seen askers use the term "sort" when they actually mean "filter" or "group by". This doesn't mean that the question requirements (which are otherwise clear) should be changed to align with the erroreously used keyword.
My edit did not alter the meaning of the question. The question always sought to replace the &nbsp; and whitespaces characters in the middle of the string with a single literal space. My edit makes it clear and exposes the fact that half of the answers are not actually suitable. Therefore, the entire page is not good for the Researcher eXpericence.
In the sample text provided by the asker, there are NO whitespace characters or &nbsp; entities on the outsides of the string -- trim() is absolutely useless.
 
well, they asked how to do it with trim(), the correct answer would've been "it's not possible with trim(), but here's a solution: <insert_php_code_here>, this way the OP would've been also educated about their wrong assumptions about trim()`
 
 
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Smokey is really gunning for that poor guy, heh...
 
@Lundin A bunch of the answers were edited to remove the promotion. Which triggered a re-scan which in turn triggered a notification.
 
@Chris yes, but what's wrong with that? Aren't most questions asking for code?
 
 
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10:41 AM
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12:08 PM
Morning
 
1:00 PM
@Dharman for starters, there's no data. That's information that should be included. Then there's no attempt. I know attempts aren't required, but having no code or data to go on makes it pretty thin on information. If you squint, it could also be a resource request. IMO there are lots of reasons to vote to close it, or vote it down, and very few reasons to vote it up.
 
What data?
You don't need data to draw an image of a thermometer
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@Dharman well for example are they looking for something they can drop a min, max, and value into? I guess we're not going to agree on this one. If I'm interpreting official guidance incorrectly, please point me to it. But like I said I don't see many reasons to vote it up. Personally, I voted it down and I voted to close as "needs more focus". You overruled that closure, which is fine I guess.
 
I think it comes down to a matter of opinion.
I can't see anything wrong with that question and I guess other people who upvoted it can't see anything either
If it was closed as Needs focus, maybe I would leave it closed, but it was closed as needs debugging details which is completely wrong.
 
Agreed on the close reason... unfortunately already had two close votes with "needs debugging details" when I encountered it in the close queue. My one vote to close as "needs focus" couldn't change that.
I'm seeing "needs debugging details" used more and more where it shouldn't be. I think people are using it when there's no code without considering why code would help.
 
1:58 PM
@TylerH Just to make sure I'm up-to-date... I thought we only handled NATOs here? I happened to come across another old candidate (opinion), not NATO though.
 
@GertArnold We handle any question that is off-topic that qualifies, that is in need of closure and may not be seen/closed organically
I'm not sure I follow the NATO line of questioning--are you thinking that that request doesn't have recent activity, perhaps? It was edited 5 hours ago.
 
OK, thanks. A while ago someone told me to post NATOs here (not just recent activity), probably a misunderstanding.
 
dbc
And that gives us a potential screen shot of the day: i.stack.imgur.com/WCvNi.jpg
 
hey, PACS screens
@GertArnold I am guessing they meant, if someone posts a NATO and the question is off-topic/close-worthy, you can post a cv-pls for that question here
 
2:17 PM
@TylerH Yeah, probably, anyway, thanks for the heads-up
 
2:40 PM
@dbc That's quite a picture of a code. Patient needs a defibrillator immediately. Or just to be hooked back up to the EKG. I am not a doctor
 
3:16 PM
@VLAZ it's because it's a code camp problem
 
^ I don't even know how that question has 7k views.
 
I'm sure folks are arriving after googling it
 
Probably
I apparently downvoted it at some point. Looks like the close votes were initially invalidated
 
@aynber probably aged out.
 
i mean, arguably,
if it's a common problem people who use that code camp run into...
 
3:20 PM
@VLAZ Yeah, that's what I was thinking
 
(i also have a downvote on it)
has it crossed here before?
 
doesn't look like it
There are no results for it in this room or the graveyard other than today's
 
well, is that the exact same question? Or just a coincidence? It's also a partial, unlinked quote, not a *-pls request
(which is what I assume Kevin meant by 'crossed here', but maybe not)
 
yeah, just "here" in some capacity
 
3:25 PM
ah
 
Yeah, a few lines up, it was talking about the answer. So I don't know if the question itself passed through, but the answer did
an answer from that question
So probably a random discussion, not a proper request
 
dbc
4:07 PM
If a question seems like a good fit for another site and has attracted a good answer, but has already been closed, should I mod-flag it? This is in reference to Different TOC and Page Number Styling.
 
@dbc Sure, that is an OK thing to do
no guarantee an SO mod and a mod on the target site will agree with you though
 
 
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@Jonas I downvoted it. That's enough, right? Did you run out of downvotes today?
 
@mickmackusa I did not know that duplicates was roombaed :) Thanks anyway for letting me know.
 
@Jonas If not answered. That's why I urge contributors to not answer duplicate questions.
 
:) It is always good when I learn something new :)
 

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