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2:16 AM
Is this a reasonable audit without context?
 
I can't see it, is it for 20k+
Reputation
 
Ahh
I've seen many users who post question and immediately answer it within 1 or 2 minutes.
 
 
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4:18 AM
@HenryEcker I would say the audit is OK, the question was asked 11 years ago, an answer added 10 years later that presents a list of solutions is likely to either be a copy+paste of other answers, or just repeating already provided solutions
 
@HenryEcker quite iffy without context; here is the metasmoke record
I thought there was a consensus to exclude spam from audits?
see also re: "repeat offender"
 
@miken32 answer is OK-ish, it's acceptable to formulate an answer based on solutions given in the comments. The question, on the other hand, needs debugging details
 
(hot tip: https://m.erwaysoftware.com/posts/uid/stackoverflow/nnnnn to find a post in metasmoke from its post ID on the site)
 
@tripleee in this particular case, I'd say you don't need to identify the spam in order to notice the answer is not OK and open it in a separate tab
the contents of the answer combined with its timing should be enough to make you think twice before choosing a review action
 
as Henry apparently did; but still, it looks okay if you miss the rather innocent-looking promotional link
and confusingly this user actually has many well-received answers on the site, so really the only problem is that the promotional link was undisclosed, which you can only know if you investigate whether they are affiliated with the site they link to
 
4:59 AM
but is affiliation disclosure needed for support links? or put it another way, missing to disclose the affiliation turns an otherwise good post into a spam one?
 
in isolation, only nominally; but by the rules, yes, by definition ... but like the "see also" link reveals, this was systematic and rather egregious
 
yeah, asking about isolated cases, as with the discussed user it's pretty clear, as they repeatedly linked their blog in their answers
 
5:16 AM
OP added code after the question was closed but I'm thinking this is probably not worth reopening, and might even deserve a del-pls ... any opinions?
 
 
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6:55 AM
What should we do with upvoted answers that just replicate solutions from other answers? Would a custom flag be OK? As the community can't handle them because they have a positive score. Concrete example: stackoverflow.com/a/68760969/1974224
 
 
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8:41 AM
@jps Yeah, that's abuse of the site, for sure. Red flagged.
 
9:02 AM
Does this question Need More Focus or am I being to cranky/critical?
 
@jps That one's more like NAA or VLQ, IMHO.
 
jps
maybe, maybe not...
 
R/A will likely be either disputed or marked helpful, I think.
 
jps
was helpful
 
I think red flags are marked helpful if the post is community deleted, whether through 5 other red flags or through delete votes. IIRC, only mods can 'dispute' a red flag, and I'm not sure exactly how that happens.
 
9:33 AM
@AdrianMole there's a "Clear n rude or abusive/spam flags" option in the mod menu. Also undeletes the post if deleted.
As you correctly note, that's closer to NAA than R/A. The flag was marked helpful by the community deletion.
I could dispute it, but then I'd have to redelete the post, and meh :-p
one of our userscripts has a convenient button to dispute the red flags on a non-deleted post
You can also dispute flags with a message by marking them either helpful or declined, then clearing them
 
10:30 AM
 
 
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11:58 AM
Morning
 
 
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1:54 PM
^ VLQ or R/A?
 
@VLAZ untranslatable gibberish. I went R/A therefore
Otherwise it'd be NAA, innit? It doesn't even attempt to answer the question
 
3:01 PM
 
3:23 PM
@AdrianMole Happy Birthday! I hope you have had/are having a great day.
 
If I'm going to raise one of these custom flags I usually go through and identify all the late answers that don't present a novel approach and include them in the same flag.
Might be a challenge with 50+ answers to go through. I also make good use of my delete votes in such cases.
 
3:41 PM
Should this be closed as no-repro? The situation described by the OP isn't what was actually happening. They self answered to that fact and added what they did but that solution is not the solution asked for in the Q. Pretty sure it wont help anyone that winds up finding it.
 
@tripleee I tend to agree it is definitely answer shaped. I have a script which adds metasmoke (and Natty) context to review so I can provide feedback when applicable which is why I had enough information to pass the audit.
I'm a bit torn on those types of answers. There's no flag button in LQA, by all internal review queue advice that should be "Looks OK". It's definitely the shape of an answer. I would not cast a NAA or VLQ flag on that answer (which is what that queue handles)...
 
4:19 PM
@NathanOliver I've edited it a bit so it's more useful, as I couldn't find a duplicate target (though I feel like I've seen one before).
 
@cigien That seems fine. I'll leave it as is.
 
Hey guys, I am not entirely sure where to ask this, but I am really sad about this. When I have certain questions that I did in the past, when I was younger, I didn't enitrely understood how Stackoverflow works or asked the wrong way. Either way, there were some projects, which now I don't have, so I can't really fix the questions to make more sense. Yet, I can't really ask questions anymore because of that. What are my options?
 
@Marcell Answer some questions. A higher score never hurts
 
@Machavity I hope that will work... :(
 
4:30 PM
> And as I wrote in the comment below: Have fun voting this into deletion. As long as I can't add normal comments due to the reputation restriction (or even upvote), I will keep on adding "Me too" answers, especially when I specifically want to talk to OP.
 
Why aren't reviewers using "This is commentary on another post, not an answer”
 
@JeanneDark Sounds like they need an automatic ban or at least a message from mods.
 
5:17 PM
@snakecharmerb I'm not sure but... that CRC excerpt... facepalm
 
Yeah I'm inclined to that the Q and that which it references are more Comp Sci than programming, the tag looks wild though ...
 
Yeah, Computer Science SE has a CRC tag
 
5:38 PM
I never understand people that post a Q, get comments right away asking for clarification or more details and all we get is silence.
 
@NathanOliver The opposite of that is pure evil
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@Machavity LMFAO. pure evil is right
 
@Machavity Wow, that's worse than denvercoder96
 
6:27 PM
^ close or nuke?
 
Let's do both
 
6:44 PM
^ I flagged that one as just NAA before realizing they were a repeat offender
 
@miken32 I threw an R/A flag at it.
 
yeah, he vowed to keep re-posting those
 
The autoprotect will hit short enough
 
> I will delete this post after my issue has been resolved, as I am trying to maintain serious privacy for my beginning writing career.
Yeah, no
 
lol
 
 
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9:49 PM
for do you think we just add to the tag usage guidance just because your question uses GitHub it does not mean it also git? But make it sound better than that.
 
@Ethan are GitHub questions not about Git on topic?
I guess it is a tool used by programmers...
 
@TylerH Questions about GH actions are on topic but are not Git
 
What does everyone think about the dupe target on stackoverflow.com/q/12322824/2943403 ? I reckon if I was a researcher, I'd want to find Glavic's excellent advice. I find nothing elegant, modern, or noteworthy on the earlier posted dupe target. Should the targetting be reversed? I'd probably more all other dupe closed pages to point to Glavic's page too.
 
sure
 
"more" -> "move"
 
10:22 PM
@mickmackusa Agree the answer on the closed one is much better, and more generic as well
 
> Guys please upvote the question so it doesn’t get dropped by the algorithm
are people now called algorithm? :)
 
10:39 PM
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10:49 PM
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@Ethan It might help to have examples of mistagged questions
(there are, for reference, 86 characters of space left in the excerpt)
 
All I can offer is the account deletion.
 
> Please help! I have a million million-dollar react program-ideas to program in the future.
 
11:10 PM
@RyanM I will get back to you a few days since the tags are normally edited so I need to start a list.
 
11:21 PM
@Ethan you could steal bits of this query to find edits that remove the tag
 
@RyanM Got it. I will try it later after I'm done reviewing for the day
 
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