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12:01 AM
Yeah, I've often thought about that. On the other hand, if I barely have enough rep to downvote, is it my place to be applying SO norms on another site? I'm not so sure.
 
Mods on other sites aren't as experienced as on SO.
 
I think there should be a large bonus. I don't think its a set amount though. I think it should be relative to your highest rep site and caped at some amount so you don't get all the privileges if you have a few hundred k rep on one site.
@Dharman Glorfindel?
 
Come on over to Medical Sciences and start flagging crap anytime you want Dharman.
 
You got a sock problem?
 
I think I've destroyed one sock puppet in my entire tenure? Maybe they are just hiding.
 
12:05 AM
Where? medicalsciences.stackexchange.com/… All your voters are on a single page
 
Haha, I know. We're.... very small.
The user was using a second account to upvote answers promoting their own research.
 
We processed more flags on SO in the past week than you have not deleted questions.
The scale comparison of SO to other sites is just mind-boggling.
 
SO, SU and SF probably gets more traffic than the rest of the network combined
 
I've cast more delete votes this week on SO than flags I've ever handled on Medical Sciences.
 
wow
I'd tell you how many flags I have handled in total, but on SO that statistics page times out very often.
 
12:15 AM
Yeah, the scale of SO is sort of scary.
 
I don't know about other sites, but on SO most mod tools have performance issues
 
All of the mod tools are very responsive, when the database has like 1000 rows in it. =P
 
Ooh it opened finally. I processed 22.7k this year
 
That's more flags than there have ever been on Medical sciences, by almost 10 times.
 
Top mod processed 63.6k this year
 
12:18 AM
Eh, I guess there are some former mods that aren't listed. Not sure if I can find the right number.
 
12:33 AM
@IanCampbell Ahhh, no. Only users who perform unilateral actions on the post can be pinged in comments. So, if there's more than one close-voter, then none of them can be pinged from a comment, unless they have otherwise made themselves eligible for being pinged.
 
12:50 AM
@Makyen Ah, thanks for the clarification. I could have sworn I was pinged once as a second binding voter.
 
 
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1:53 AM
@miken32 That's true, it doesn't explain why PHP gives the wrong date when the PHP documentation isn't followed. I don't actually have that information to give. What my answer does is explain the error in the relative time expression, links to the documentation where it is clarified how to write the format, then explains that there is a simpler technique that doesn't need a relative time format involving "first day of".
 
 
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5:28 AM
@IanCampbell You shouldn't flag such answers on apple.se. It's established policy on that site that link only answers are considered as valid answers if the link is relevant. You could, of course, try and change that policy on their meta, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for that, especially if you're not an active participant on that site.
 
 
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6:36 AM
I seeded the close votes queue with a bunch of questions again, appreciate if someone could volunteer to review them
my previous batch seems to have expired mostly )-:
 
 
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Is this a duplicate of the linked post?
Also, this question can only be answered by the developers, but for the HERE-API it seems that SO is their preferable customer support platform. Normally, questions which can only be answered by the developers of the tool aren't allowed here, because us random strangers on the internet cannot answer those.
Now, are those allowed in case those developers of the tool actively monitor SO? My problem is that they'd be the sole user capable of answering, undermining the reputation and associated privileges system, since they have a seemingly endless stream of questions coming in which they, and they only, can answer.
 
 
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10:25 AM
> i have no instrest learning py its much better that you give me a code solution here
 
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12:20 PM
 
12:53 PM
Is this trolling and/or worthy of a red-flag (R/A).
 
1:04 PM
@AdrianMole I delvoted. Seemed like a regular clueless user. If they were trolling, it just wasn't a good enough attempt for R/A
 
@VLAZ OK, then I'll let you have the prize. ;-)
 
*opens prize* OK, I didn't know the prize was spiders.
 
1:46 PM
@tripleee I don't see any recommendation request here
but I think it's off-topic anyway
 
thanks, changed to general computing
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/74636792/… is it closeworthy? (SD Report)
There is no way to retrieve a key from apk.. What they are asking for isn't possible
 
@SurajRao I closed it as a dupe, but... maybe it does need a "no" answer? Just thinking aloud
 
2:04 PM
@cigien Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it.
 
@Machavity maybe.. It technically isnt a dupe though.. since OP hasn't even uploaded to play store
 
Unduped then
 
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5:06 PM
@NathanOliver could you please delete this ? I went by the title when I flagged the dupe ... his request is slightly more complex - just poorly worded.
 
@tink done
 
Ta :)
 
5:18 PM
 
5:42 PM
Use plenty of sugar and butter for "maximum mmm..."
 
regardless of the vandalism, that question looks blatantly NMF to me
stackoverflow.com/questions/74646134 how do we normally close code review questions? POB? NMF?
 
@KarlKnechtel Pick either. Don't overthink it.
 
Possibly opinion-based ("ideas on how to optimize it") but need details or clarity should also work, or needs more focus.
 
Worth noting though, not all questions that are "here is my code, I want to improve it" are closable. If there are clearly defined goals, then it's a specific problem. The general "I want it better" isn't.
 
5:58 PM
Belongs on another site? Though CR isn't one of the options
 
@IanCampbell Thanks, I shall read
 
@aynber They don't want to be listed because too many users recommend CR for questions that don't belong there.
 
Specifically "So, why so upset?" =P
 
I still don't understand that community. Back when it was common for people to suggest CR in the comments, the stuff they were suggesting it for... consistently looked to me like it met CR's standards, as described there, just fine.
 
6:31 PM
am I alone in thinking this is way off topic? stackoverflow.com/questions/74646501
 
@KarlKnechtel by the looks of it that is a task that can be achieved with end-user tools. It doesn't need a developer so doesn't need code. Unless the question gets clarified it should be closed here.
 
@KarlKnechtel nope, needs focus or looking for tools IMHO
 
7:00 PM
what actually is salesforce? and why are any of these questions considered on topic?
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/74641876 these are the sort of Q&As the tag seems to be attracting.
 
seriously though, it is a CRM cloud service. They have a bunch of API's so it's not surprising we have tags for them. But like everything else they are going to get misused.
 
can we set some kind of automated rule to pick up questions that don't have either or a whitelisted tag identifying an actual programming language?
 
@KarlKnechtel That sounds like something to do using the SEDE, but that can be up to a week out of date.
 
7:10 PM
I mean with a SD-like tool.
if not outright site support (I am pipe-dreaming again... burn it all to the ground and start over)
 
@KarlKnechtel that would be difficult
my bot is the closest I ever got to it
 
Pretty sure you could have something like Smokey that looks for those types of questions and reports them in a chat room. The pain would be keeping up with the list of whitelisted tags.
 
There are questions tagged though. And some of them are even valid + don't need a JS tag.
 
while they don't need the js tag, would they not benefit from it?
it is javascript, afterall
 
7:15 PM
presumably because they're strictly about the contents of selector strings
 
@KevinB Depends. Not all. If they are asking something very specifically about jQuery, then the JS tag is just noise.
 
even that now days is just querySelectorAll
 
but to the extent that these exist and are valid "programming" questions, jquery is a "programming language" for my purposes. Same with "regex"
 
7:54 PM
@miken32 usual advice is calling it out on their meta. That usually works if you're willing to go through the trouble.
@miken32 yeah, on MSE I've gotten into trouble over flagging and editing. It's a don't flag, don't edit policy. There are posts with mods network-wide subscribing to that policy.
Imagine, every other time you edited 2 or 3 users popped up accusing you of editing. Second time you raise NLN flags on a post you get a mod message saying they don't want that.
 
@bad_coder Someone already did that; apparently they won't act on answer flags unless they already have "several downvotes." apple.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/4093/…
("someone" being @cigien I just noticed)
 
@miken32 ok, that makes some sense. They want you to ping the OP asking them to edit before the answer gets nuked, and they want you to use votes.
Depending on traffic that can be inclusive, if there's actually time to get back to the answer. One of the smaller sites I'm on we always ask OPs to edit their stuff before the nuke, they rarely ever do.
 
@bad_coder When I leave a comment under an answer asking a user to edit it to be in compliance with a rule, them responding that they will keep that in mind, and then never fixing the problem has to be top 3 most frustrating experiences on the network.
 
@IanCampbell it happens a lot on language sites where any native speaker thinks he can answer without including sources/references to grammar linguistic work. Problem is if you nuke without a thorough explanation that's the surest way for them not to read the grammar.
 
meh
 
 
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9:27 PM
@KevinB Mostly, but not quite. jQuery does implement extensions to selectors which can't be used with a selector for querySelector*.
 
9:56 PM
omg this inbox. why do i need to dismiss it on every tab
 
@jmoerdyk the [wetransfer] tag seems to have only off-topic questions...
 
@blackgreen agreed
 
10:15 PM
@KevinB It should be syncing between tabs. If you have opened the inbox in a tab, then you may need to click the "refresh" button in the popup in order for it to refresh, but the attention needed badge/indicator/counter should be kept in sync under most conditions.
 
definite not what i'm seeing
i had two MSE tabs open, and your ping from earlier was still showing an indicator in the second tab 5 min later
even though i dismissed it in the first
that's certainly how the old one worked
 
odd. All of my tabs sync on the inbox notifications. What browser are you using?
 
edge
 
Do we want this PHP answer gone?
 
just the answer?
i'd like the title of that question gone
 
10:23 PM
@KevinB certainly a low-value page.
 
@mickmackusa I don't understand the question "find the lowest of the 10 number of answers same" ???
 
> I need to keep an array full of the 10 highest matches
 
I imagine the poor 200 or so people that Googled "PHP array problem" and got that.
 
@IanCampbell I share your confusion and disappointment.
 
which matches are highest?
what are we matching?
troelskn's answer makes me think code existed at some point
but, ofc, there's no revision history, so,
 
10:36 PM
Just out of curiosity, how did you stumble across that question @mickmackusa?
Don't tell me you had a PHP array problem. =P
 
`select distinct top 10 q.Id AS [Post Link], a.body, a.CreationDate
from Posts q
inner join Posts a on a.ParentId = q.Id
inner join posttags pt on pt.postid = q.id
inner join tags t on pt.tagid = t.id
where t.tagname = 'php'
and year(a.CreationDate) < '2016'
and LEN(a.Body) < 3000
and a.Body LIKE '%foreach%sort(%'
order by a.CreationDate`
 
ew
 
That's dedication to a tag right there.
 
I didn't want to post this answer because I'm SURE that it's a dupe question, but really, really couldn't find a dupe for it.
 
I don't think I've ever resorted to a Data.SE query to find dup targets. I should do that though...
 
10:41 PM
@IanCampbell I've only started doing this in the last couple of weeks (after getting frustrated with the first 6-8 pages of Google search results -- when I KNOW that the dupe target is somewhere out there).
 
I wonder if that's like a self-fulfilling prophecy... if you can't find the dup target, neither can the OP, and so the cycle continues?
 
@IanCampbell Yes, well, I certainly can't throw shade on the average user if I can't easily find the dupe either. For cases, where I need to hunt very thoroughly, this usually indicates that the title needs improvement, the body needs more relevant keywords, and the tags might need adjustments. Then, of course, if any relevant techniques/insights are missing from the answers, I'lll necropost as well.
 
Take notes, write your own canonical. If you find something better later, you can redirect your own (and anything else you closed with it)
if you find something worse but more popular later, well.
 
@KarlKnechtel Definitely, I have done this as well.
 
I wrote a canonical once, but it came very near being voted into oblivion.
That's a trick businesss.
 
@KarlKnechtel Brilliant. I may one day do the same for PHP. It is sorely needed.
 
Is this question from the same user as the one linked in the first comment? (See my comment, also.) If so, is this flaggable?
 
Using socks isn't against the rules unless you have reason to believe they are trying to evade the question ban.
It's hard to know as a regular user since you can't see the first user's deleted posts.
 
Posting the same question from 2 different accounts may not be against the "letter of the law" but it strikes me as bad behaviour.
 
Well.. I have the perfect tool for that. And that tool also happens to feed the question ban algorithm.
 
10:50 PM
Unless they are two different people in the same class that share an email?
 
@AdrianMole occasionally I will mod flag and let them know I suspect it is a sock account trying to subvert a question ban and link to the deleted Q from the other account. I've not had a declined flag yet doing this.
 
The curious thing, here, is that the earlier question wasn't either down-voted or close-voted.
... until some miserable curator came along, that is. ;-)
 
I don't know, the internet is hard. It's not that far outside the realm of possibilities that someone accidentally created two accounts.
 
@AdrianMole They have the same gravatar....
 
It blows my mind how many socks some people have.
 
10:54 PM
Hmm. Posted 9 minutes apart.
I have lots of socks. Generally, they come in pairs.
@KarlKnechtel Which was my comment...
 
ah, I blanked that out mentally somehow
 
11:13 PM
 
11:26 PM
ah, someone else fixed it. I tried to put on a better title.
 

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