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12:06 AM
@AdrianMole the answer come down to "Did you check out mysite.com? We offer XYZ custom solutions. We are XYZ partners as well." That's spam in my opinion and the "affiliation" is none.
 
@Vickel I can see that point of view. I just wasn't sure enough to raise my own red flag.
 
@Nick this is another user account, spamming the same domain
 
@Vickel Indeed. I flagged the original user (the one you posted about) as spam too.
 
 
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2:53 AM
@Yatin That is the sort of question that you could answer yourself by checking. I just looked, and, no, it is not on the Wayback Machine. In that case, there is virtually nothing that can be done. I've edited the question to remove the link. I think there's still enough of a description to allow the question to remain open, but that is somewhat arguable.
@JeanneDark You will drive yourself crazy if you try to understand the motivations behind people doing the nonsense they do here. But if I had to guess (no risk, because I'm already crazy), it would be that they're trying to spam, but being thwarted by our restrictions on new users posting links. That would also explain why they edited it. I'm of the opinion that rude/abusive flags are suitable for nonsense like this.
@Yatin Interestingly, most of the time, there are real humans behind the spam or nonsense, not bots.
@Braiam Yes, we do agree emphatically on the utility of edits. :-)
@JeanneDark Oh no! Did you get the help you needed, or...? ;-)
@oguzismail :-) True. Well, partially true. In some cases, I would actually say or do that. But obviously not when someone has already expressed concern/disagreement with doing so. Then, you have to find a compromise. I was defending what I thought was a reasonable compromise.
@JeanneDark I have to at least somewhat agree with Braiam here. I don't know why you're insisting that his arguments are irrelevant. We've had this discussion before. You know that I think it's reasonable for a subject-matter expert to improve an answer, even drifting far beyond the original text of that answer, as long as it's (A) correct and (B) in keeping with the author's intent, as best we can know it. Oguz was, in my opinion, more than qualified to make improvements to that answer.
@TomerShetah A more applicable Q&A than the one @GertArnold linked you to is Dealing with answers recommending an update or restart, with an answer by yours truly. Summary: these are probably not good cases to flag as NAA (at least not if you care about declined flags), but they're not really good answers, either, and I have no objection to their deletion, especially when they're so poorly written and seem like truly wild guesses (no supporting evidence).
 
 
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4:48 AM
@cigien Hi Smokey! How's it going?
You have an echo today!
 
 
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@CodyGray, I flagged 5 days ago this answer as a duplicate(in a custom flag) by the same user of this answer. Is that how I supposed to do that?
I am asking because this flag, and another one of the same type didn't get any attention.
 
You raised a custom moderator flag? Those take a while to handle. The fact that they're pending for a while don't mean you did anything wrong.
 
Are those considered verbatim copies?
Only the color of the formatting is different
Ah no
 
You're trying to trick me into looking at the flag ;-)
 
"Does the same thing as accepted answer"
@CodyGray Heh (no actually) :p
 
6:16 AM
@CodyGray hahaha I swear that wasn't the purpose! I just wanted to make sure I did the right thing and to maintain my last successful flags statistics :)
 
@TomerShetah I meant Yatin mostly, not you. It's fine to ask, of course.
Note that the flag still says "pending" as the status.
So no effect on statistics, and no evidence that you've made a mistake.
 
Yeah I know, but after having a few flags aged away I understood that sometimes I need to actively help my flags to be marked as helpful :)
 
Ah, moderator flags do not age away.
 
never?
 
@TomerShetah No, never. The "needs moderator attention"/custom flags won't age away ever.
Eventually, one of us will stop being lazy and actually handle them.
 
6:25 AM
😂😂😂😂😂
 
The "recommend closure" flags do age away, but these aren't handled by mods. They're just handled by reviewers in the close vote review queue.
 
So if that is the case I won't ask you to look on my other pending flag :)
 
I recently learned that spam/abusive flags also age away, which I think is a bug, but these don't stay pending for very long anyway, at least on SO.
Well, they're both essentially the same thing, just on two different answers.
 
@CodyGray I remember seeing a comment on Meta on how their flag remained pending for years.
 
Years seems... unlikely.
But maybe.
 
6:36 AM
Um is this question on topic? stackoverflow.com/q/65695865/11573842
Tagged so idk
 
@Yatin Don't think so.
Lemme kick it to Magento.SE.
 
Ohk
 
It's not specific enough to programming to think it belongs on SO, but it's well-asked, so I'm happy finding another home for it.
Magento.SE has almost nothing in its Help Center pages, but it seems like it should be on-topic there.
 
Ok
 
I like it better without the "h" :-)
 
6:43 AM
Ohk means Oh, okay right?
 
Oh, it does? I always assumed it was just a phonetic misspelling of "OK".
 
^ image of code
 
7:01 AM
@CodyGray It was originally about completely changing an answer, which violates the rule of clarifying "the meaning of the post (without changing that meaning)" in my opinion. Notice how even you in the end suggested not to change it, but to "expand" it and that's what eventually happened. By then I had already made the point I tried to, so I considered the matter settled...
... (especially with a mod having chimed in). So I was no longer so much interested in prolonging the discussion (this didn't change two days after the initial discussion, btw. ;)). Also, arguing about adding a useful example to someone else's answer and acting like I would oppose that (like I'd oppose all edits that make a post "objectively better") is inaccurately representing my position. Not that it matter much what I think about the matter anyway.
I'm not against making anything better, I just think that you shouldn't completely change it and if that's necessary, I'd rather consider adding a new answer (which gives its auther then also the earned rep).
 
General computing?
 
7:17 AM
(or finance, or $pick_your_favorite_cryptocurrency)
 
@Yatin definitely not a programming question. perhaps customer support? or maybe they should just rtfm :)
 
Wait, how did @RyanM's message show up both here and CHQ?
Are you cross-posting?!?
 
Lol
 
In my defense the thing that prompted it was also in both :-)
 
I'll send a cv-pls
 
7:20 AM
That'd be how we do it here.
 
8:18 AM
Is this already spam? ("Please subscribe, share, like and comment if you find the video informative.")
 
@JeanneDark Yes; plus, the YouTube video was uploaded by the same person who posted the answer, with no disclosure of affiliation.
 
@JeanneDark there is another one by the user.. Mod flagged
 
Thanks!
 
and added a watch for that youtube link in SmokeDetector
 
8:38 AM
@tripleee Note that it's not always the same link; they promote different videos.
 
@CodyGray please feel free to add watches for the other ones (or point me to them if you'd like for me to do the tedious copy/pastry)
 
If someone posts, let's say, 4 new answers in a short period of time, all seemingly just advertising a piece of software, let's say a "virtual IP Camera", but you can't find out if they are affiliated with the product, how to flag it (or not flag, at all)?
 
8:57 AM
@JeanneDark If you like, you could just post in a chat room where these things are investigated. You don't have to worry about declined flags that way at least.
 
That's a good idea. Such rooms are on SE (not SO) chat servers, though.
 
Yes, that's true. Is that an issue?
 
Depends on where the user has an account.
 
I'm not sure what you mean. So long as the user has an SE account, you can ask about posts they make on any of the sites.
 
9:09 AM
There's no SO rule against knowingly answering duplicates, is that right?
 
@cigien There is not indeed. Although it can make some people upset.
 
@E_net4theflagger Ok, thanks.
 
Hard to prove 'knowingly', @cigien.
 
@CodyGray I'm using the "beyond a reasonable doubt" metric. Proof is impossible, agreed.
 
@cigien That was a hint as to why there could not possibly be a rule against it.
 
9:17 AM
@CodyGray What? You need "proof" as a moderator to warn, suspend, or otherwise take action against users? Don't you frequently nuke posts and even accounts based on your common sense understanding of the situation? To clarify, when I say "Rule", I mean something like "If you're found to be doing this sort of thing repeatedly, action will be taken ...", that kind of rule.
 
What? My common sense is not "proof"?
 
Of your insanity? Sure. Not much else, I'm afraid ;)
 
Hmm.
 
Too snarky a joke? Sorry. But seriously, would a custom flag have any effect at all? I'm sure you can think of cases of dupe answering knowingly. I can share a hypothetical if you'd like.
 
The only case I would act on (and have before) is where someone reopened a question to post an answer that was already present on the dupe.
Pretty much anything other than that, and it's too easy to just claim ignorance ("I didn't know it was a dupe!")
 
9:23 AM
@CodyGray That's just plagiarism though.
 
There's no requirement that you look first before answering. Although we would certainly like for everyone to do so.
It's not necessarily plagiarism.
 
@CodyGray Oh, you mean the answer wasn't copied? I see.
 
It wasn't a copy, no. It was just providing a similar solution to what had already been given, proving they even agreed that it was a dupe (not that they'd changed their mind, and that was why they reopened it, so they could give a unique answer).
 
Ok, yeah, in other cases I guess it's too easy to claim ignorance. Though I've started looking for it actively, and I'm finding cases where users have recently answered identical dupes. Which is not claiming ignorance so much as a disastrous memory.
 
Just bully them in the comments ;-)
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9:34 AM
I've started leaving comments that I'm hoping will be constructive. In some cases, the user actually responds positively, in some they just ignore the comment, and in some, they basically come out and admit that they'll continue answering dupes, and it's up to other users if they want to find targets first :( Interestingly, I've never had a single user admit that they do it for the rep, which is fascinating.
Ha, the bullying in comments message got a star. Maybe you're on to something ;)
 
@cigien They almost always do it for "the poor OP who needs help".
 
@cigien Yes, jocular comments often get stars. It's not an especially well-kept secret.
 
@E_net4theflagger Yeah, that's a common trope. Though the more astute ones will claim they're providing a unique perspective on the question. On pointing out that they could do that on the target, they go back to ignoring of course.
@JeanneDark I may have misunderstood this message, so to clarify, you can ask about posts by a user on any SE site, it doesn't just have to be on SO. There might be site specific ones of course, but Charcoal will handle posts made by users on any SE site.
 
@cigien I think she's trying to say that she doesn't have an account on any site other than SO, so she wouldn't be able to use the SE chat server. Although I'm not sure if that is actually true.
 
I'm not sure, but I think an SO profile is sufficient to chat on SE chat servers. One needs the requisite rep, but that shouldn't be an issue for Jeanne.
 
9:48 AM
@CodyGray Mods know everything. But you're on the right track. If a user had an account on SO only then...
 
That's what I said!
 
Oh, so what's the requirment? 2 sites?
 
I assume she's thinking that it would require an account on an SE site, including MSE.
But I don't know if it does. An SO account might be sufficient. I have never tried.
 
@CodyGray Nope, "You must be logged in to talk. See the faq for more information."
 
But can you not simply be logged into your SO account?
(I didn't see the faq for more information.)
 
9:55 AM
@CodyGray It may be possible under some circumstances. I was also rather asking about which type of flag.
 
You ask too many hard questions.
 
I will stop for now. Thank you!
 
I think the answer is obvious, though. Any time one of the standard flags isn't appropriate, then a custom flag is appropriate.
I don't know if you were actually trying to ask something else. I wasn't paying attention.
 
Even though it's a bit vague, that would certainly be a case worth a custom flag?
(Oh no, I asked another question)
 
Multiple answers in a short period of time all promoting the same product/service? Yes, I'd say so. Just be clear in the flag that you're not sure if they're affiliated, but that it seems like a curious pattern and a mod should investigate.
 
10:01 AM
Ok, thanks!
 
Have you not raised this type of flag before?
 
I'm not sure ;) It's possible indeed
I'm even planning to raise one tomorrow
 
"Raised a barn on Monday, soon I'll raise another"
@JeanneDark I think you're due for a declined flag, right? Let me check the schedule...
 
@CodyGray I've been waiting for it for so long now ;)
Even worse since I'm completely defenseless
 
@JeanneDark If I may ask, why do you want to raise a flag in cases like this? There are several advantages to bringing it up in Charcoal, e.g. more users will see it, and those users will have more collective experience with situations like this than a single mod (I presume). Also, if you get it wrong, you'll get more constructive feedback than a generic "No evidence was found for this flag". It's also less work, since you'll get others to do most of the investigation for you.
Of course, I might have missed some downsides to doing this, but I'm not sure what they might be.
 
10:11 AM
Mods have a fair amount of experience with handling flags on suspicious content/behavior...
 
True, but more than members of Charcoal combined? Especially since there are several SO mods lurking there, plus mods from half a dozen, if not more, other SE sites.
 
@cigien Well, it certainly does have its advantages. Charcoal is just not really on my radar most of the time since I'm only in SOCVR.
 
Dangit, someone asked an otherwise good general mobile computing question...but I don't know if they have an iPhone or an Android phone, so I can't flag it for migration.
 
@JeanneDark That's fair. And you would be expected to at least take a look at the Charcoal FAQ before interacting there. I understand if that's more effort than you would like to put in. I just felt it might be less work over time, if you plan on raising flags of that nature more than a few times. It's just a suggestion, no pressure at all.
 
I have a rather limited radius.
 
10:19 AM
Sure, that's reasonable. No point spreading yourself too thin.
 
Does Charcoal actually have an FAQ for people who aren't participating via MS or SD? I think it's mostly "don't be an ***hole or flood the channel and you're probably fine"
oh and don't feed trolls by giving them attention
 
:D
 
Doesn't seem to be as detailed as SOCVR's
 
That's a good point. There's not a barrier to entry like in SOCVR if one isn't interacting with SD.
 
10:21 AM
Yeah, if your behavior hasn't gotten you ejected from SOCVR, you'll be fine in Charcoal HQ.
 
Very bad if you're a stickler for rules ;)
 
@JeanneDark Not sure if you're serious, but that's the generic FAQ for every chat room I think.
 
We don't bite. Unless you post spam, then we bite hard.
 
Which is odd, because spam is soft.
 
@cigien I guess so, too. That's the linked FAQ I see there as a "chat guest" so yes, I'm serious
 
10:23 AM
is this offsite resource? (NATO - NAA)
 
@SurajRao Nope, asking how to use (I think?) a software development tool
 
@RyanM I think the wiki is adequate: charcoal-se.org/smokey
 
@JeanneDark Ah, no. ignore that. I was confused too, the first time I looked for a SOCVR style FAQ in another chat room. As for Charcoal. as Ryan pointed out, there's not really much to it if you're not interacting with SD. If you want to interact, then see this.
 
Thanks! I know that wiki (once tried to decipher some of SD's abbreviations)
 
@RyanM "Any API?" how is this not a request for off-site resource?
 
10:27 AM
@MrUpsidown In exactly the same way that "Is there any API to show an alert dialog in Android?" isn't: it's asking how to use BigQuery, using the BigQuery API
The problematic type of "Any API?" requests are for recommending a service with an API, which isn't the case here.
 
I strongly disagree
 
@MrUpsidown Which part do you disagree with? Would you consider "Is there any API to show an alert dialog in Android?" off-topic, or would you draw the line somewhere between the two questions? If the latter, what is the distinction?
 
@SurajRao No. It is not asking for any offsite resources. It is perfectly on-topic here.
 
"Is there any API to ..." for me is asking to recommend an off-site resource. In most cases, OP could have answered that by searching a bit. Same goes for "Any API?" and such. I don't see any difference.
 
So, should this question, which effectively asks for an API to do that, be closed? stackoverflow.com/questions/2115758/…?
 
10:33 AM
Questions about API are about programming as long as they are not asking which API you recommend or which API is better.
 
Maybe in the specific case submitted by Suraj Rao, the question is poorly worded
 
That seems on-topic. Which question are you guys discussing?
 
The phrasing of that close reason is "Seeking recommendations for books, tools, software libraries, and more: This question is likely to lead to opinion-based answers." None of these questions are asking for recommendations for any of those things.
 
@MrUpsidown I'm not sharing my opinion about this particular post, but I'd just like to point out that "OP could have answered that by searching a bit." doesn't make any question necessarily off-topic.
 
As a rule of thumb, if the hypothetical answer would be a product or service, it's off-topic. If it would be a class or method, it's on-topic.
 
10:36 AM
@RyanM, the least I could say about that one is that it doesn't show a lot of efforts. Feels like... "how can I do that... I don't know... let's ask on SO"
 
Lack of research effort is not a close reason
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Asking simple questions on SO makes future research for the same questions easier.
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And, as someone who frequently does web searches for simple concepts when trying to cobble together scripts in a language I don't know, I really appreciate when those are on Stack Overflow rather than Joe Schmo's Outdated and Ad-laden Programming Blog. The voting and comments alone make it so much easier to tell if the solutions are correct or have gotchas.
 
^ This is exactly what Stack Overflow is for
 
@RyanM true, it's not a specific available close reason, that said, the "how to ask" page FIRST point is: "Search, and research" so when a question feels like absolutely no effort was put into researching a solution, I'll still want to close it.
 
@MrUpsidown It should probably say "Search, and research, on Stack Overflow" - which is what the word "Search" links to in that line. It's telling you not to ask duplicate questions, not to not ask simple questions.
The next paragraph also makes clear that it's talking about questions and answers on the site.
 
@MrUpsidown I understand the desire to want to close questions that show a lack of research effort on the OP's part. Note however, that this is in direct violation of SO policy. I would like to thank you for admitting that you would close questions for that reason, unlike many users who when pointed out the policy will immediately say that they are actually closing it because they find it unclear or unfocused.
 
10:44 AM
@RyanM I am not sure I get your point...
@cigien, sometimes a question can be close for multiple reasons
let's take an example then: is this a good question?
 
@MrUpsidown Hmm, so to clarify, you're not claiming that you would close a question solely because it lacks research effort?
 
What about this one?
 
@MrUpsidown Sure, it's asking if there's any way to do something with a product's API. The answer is extremely mediocre, though, because it doesn't really address the question...
@MrUpsidown I'm a lot more meh on that one. It could only be answered with a service. It does limit it enough to prevent most opinion-based answers, but it could also use more clarity on what "like Google Places" means. Importantly, it's not asking how to do something.
 
@cigien I am not sure. When I see such a very broad question, no code, no details, and it feels like OP could get an answer by doing a simple web search, I will want to close it
 
There is a close reason for "could get an answer by doing a simple web search": Find a duplicate and close as a duplicate of it.
 
10:51 AM
If there is one then obviously yes
 
@RyanM Spammers need to post on the right site, this spam should clearly be migrated to Law.SE.
 
tbh, when I see a question that starts with "Is there any API to ... ?" I will probably close vote it as a request for off-site resource
 
@MrUpsidown That's a shame, I thought you were willing to admit that you'd close the question solely for lacking research effort, as your earlier message seems to imply. Now however, you seem to think the question Needs Focus, Lacks an MCVE, and Needs Details/Clarity, in addition to being something the OP could have found by doing a simple search. Would you like to add some other reasons the question should be closed while you're at it?
 
@MrUpsidown depends on what follows but an AI classifier would probably agree with you ...
 
@cigien I think it depends on the question, how it is asked, etc. If the question is only limited "Is there any API to get xyz" like this one for example, IMO yes, it should be closed because it's BOTH a lack of research (OP doesn't even mention he/she has done any research) AND to me it's a request for offsite resource.
 
11:03 AM
@MrUpsidown I'm going to refer you over to Shog9 re: lack of research, because he puts it far better than I can: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/260909/208273
As far as it being an offsite resource, it's no more an offsite resource than any function call or class in a standard library
"How do I create a list with O(1) random access performance in Java?" requires the off-site resource that is the standard-library implementation of ArrayList. But it's not asking for recommendations for software libraries, and neither is this.
 
@MrUpsidown I'm not sure why you keep changing the specific question being discussed. Anyway, without going into the specifics of the question, if you believe it's a request for an off-site resource then vote to close as such.
However, and one would think I'd be tired of repeating this, but apparently not, please don't close questions because they show lack of research effort. It's not a valid reason. If you don't like the question, downvote it. Press really hard on the button, that might make you feel better. But please don't close the question on the grounds that it lacks research effort.
 
I like effort.
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I will do, exactly as explained in that meta post, because in many cases it will be a duplicate
"one would think I'd be tired of repeating this" - I don't know you, I don't know that you keep repeating this, that's all I can say
 
Ok. I protected it to stop some of the "need this feature" posts it is attracting
 
None of us are opposed to closing duplicate questions as duplicates.
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11:11 AM
linking to a meta post that makes it clearer is more of a benefit than to just complain you keep repeating the same things, because you didn't keep repeating this to ME
 
@MrUpsidown I agree a meta post might be more beneficial, and I'm sorry for framing my message as a complaint; that was unnecessary. Note however that I did literally just repeat it twice to you in the last 10 minutes. In case you missed it, two other users also said the same thing to you in the same time frame.
 
@cigien I really enjoy the way you talk to me, thank you and have a great day.
 
11:29 AM
@MrUpsidown My tone appears to have upset you. I'm sorry about that, that was not my intent.
 
It did indeed...
 
@MrUpsidown I do apologize, sincerely, for that. I tend to be overly direct, or stern, etc, when I communicate things I have a strong opinion about it. This is not the first time I've done this, and unfortunately, this may not be the last, but I will try not to repeat such behavior. As you point out, it can be misconstrued, and is not generally productive.
 
11:44 AM
np
 
12:09 PM
:51369198 Oops?
 
Now I am curious what was the message.
 
No mistake remains undetected
 
RO's have access to that removed message. If that needs more "deletion" please flag for a mod. Just FYI.
 
Does it?
 
I'm not sure. I'm trying to help.
 
12:13 PM
And for that I'm very thankful to you
 
if it was a credential of some sort (pure speculation, didn't see it myself) moderators can redact the message history. But...it'd probably be safest to change anyway, if so, which would largely obviate the need for redaction.
 
No need to worry.
 
If you type your Stack Overflow password in chat then it will show as stars.
 
Let me try
Password123
 
@JeanneDark it worked! I only see stars
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12:21 PM
:)
 
12:34 PM
@tripleee ... and you get stars for that ;)
 
12:51 PM
@DalijaPrasnikar a question you closed is mentioned on meta: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/404452/…
 
they translated, but missed the last sentence. Is it reopenable now?
 
Google Translate translates "hello guys" into "needs more downvotes"
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@Adriaan doesn't look like a programming question
 
Ah, it's a self-Q/A
 
@rene thanks
 
2:36 PM
@rene Not anymore :D
 
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4:37 PM
@Yatin Do you think that SOCVR serves to accelerate a process such as closing or reopening? SOCVR does not do it.
 
@eyllanesc I thought that's exactly what SOCVR does.
 
+1, SOCVR certainly accelerates closing and reopening.
 
@AdrianMole No, please read the info.
@RyanM It is a consequence of the filter we carry out but it is not the objective.
 
Could you specify which info you're referring to? I've been here quite a while and am relatively familiar with the FAQs, and I'm not aware of this being a thing.
 
But I think the [reopen-pls] request made by Yatin was perfectly valid for this room. The question was (seemingly) closed by folks in here and the question has been sufficiently improved. So the request was for 'us' to revisit our previous action.
 
4:49 PM
FAQ: "Reopen Vote Request are perfectly welcome. If you see something that you think should be reopened, we're more than happy to look at it. Note: most of the time reopen-voting requires domain specific knowledge, so there could be no one in the room that truly understands the subject matter enough to make a judgment call."
 
Even if we hadn't closed it originally, we have no shortage of reopen votes, and getting reopen requests that are verified by room members to be good is useful.
 
@Yatin you have more info on that?, several answer, spamming other sites... because as it stands the question ask for it...
 
Thanks
 
That explains the anger
 
4:57 PM
Y'all might want to consider retracting flags, as the content is no longer offensive
 
@AdrianMole The reopening request is valid but what I point out is that it should not be pointed out that it will reopen quickly, it could be pointed out that it is likely to reopen because it was forwarded to a special queue. My idea is to better understand the objective of this chat room: We do not serve to accelerate anything, it is the consequence but it is not the objective and it will not always happen.
 
@eyllanesc OK. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't see the comment under that request (it was removed before I could see it).
 
5:13 PM
@eyllanesc ah, I didn't see such a comment either. your objection makes more sense now; I originally thought you were objecting to the request itself, which was valid.
 
@RyanM No, that's why my question was precise and the question to the user who made the request. I never said that the request is incorrect but that false expectations are being generated for the OP.
 
Ah ok, I understand your point @eyllanesc. The issue was that I said it will be re-opened. I should have just said that it can be re-opened... right?
 
@Yatin There are 2 problems: 1) Don't make sure it will reopen, 2) Don't make sure it will happen quickly
 
Ok
 
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6:27 PM
I'm more concerned about all the apparently real email addresses in that post than a couple random integers...
 
7:34 PM
well with an email address like that...
 
^ Looks like spam, smells like spam, quacks like a duck...
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9:26 PM
@Dharman Which one? I'd guess that you mean the release version of the Request Generator. Is there something preventing you from using the alpha version (e.g. you need Greasemonkey compatibility)?
 
I use v1.10.1.0
It was working prior to the recent changes
I updated from I believe 1.9
 
Needs debugging details.
 
@Dharman OK. Strange. On what OS/browser/userscript manager are you using it? What is the issue that you are seeing?
 
Chrome 87 Windows Tamermonkey. When question is closed as "unlikely to help any future visitors" it is not recognized as closed. It does not allow me to submit del-pls
See above del-pls I had to type out manualyy
 
I can reproduce the issue, with for example this question
 
9:32 PM
So it's probably all old close reasons
 
Maybe not worth the development effort.
 
Yeah. We had some discussions about the script adding more info for del-pls requests. I guess that may have had some unintended consequences.
 
I value Makyen's work.
 
I value your valuation of Makyen's work.
 
I certainly agree the script is highly valuable. I'm just questioning how many questions with old close reasons get del-plz-ed every year.
 
9:36 PM
Thanks (all) :)
OK. I'm able to reproduce the issue. It was masked for me, because I have another userscript which adjusts the post notices to something a bit more reasonable (IMO). Using that script resulted in those posts being detected by the Request Generator as being closed.
 
@IanCampbell A lot. But fewer every day
 
Haha, well played.
 
Thanks, Makyen. My job is done. I am off to the land of Netflix.
 
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10:43 PM
Alpha Request Generator update: version 1.10.2.0 (GitHub) (install). Fix detection of old closure of questions.
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10:59 PM
Does the system eventually prevent edits if you edit your own post too many times and they are rolled back?
 
@IanCampbell It does not do so automatically, but there are a couple of different auto-flags which might be raised, depending on what exactly is being done. Multiple rollbacks is one of the things which raises an autoflag. Too many edits by the OP is another thing that raises an autoflag.
 
Good to know. Thanks.
 
11:14 PM
Heh ... how does that work ... my CV-PLS came throught even though the site told me it can't be closed because it's bountied? =}
 
@tink I'm not sure. It should not be sent if an alert dialog is shown (which is different from a confirmation dialog). A bounty is supposed to be a blocking issue. I was not able to duplicate the problem you had. What OS/browser/userscript manager/script version are you using?
 
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