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12:00 AM
I've made hundreds of views clickable in my career using solution 2 here.
I can't think of any reason it would fail. ImageButton is basically ImageView with slightly different default styling.
 
I see that however when using that solution for an image button I get a "<no name provided> but View.OnClickListener? was expected" error
ah that second link uses java and not koltin I'll have to check
 
It should work in Kotlin. If it doesn't, you're doing something wrong. I can't help you without your code.
stackoverflow.com/questions/61581032/… suggests your imports may be wrong.
 
understood
 
12:23 AM
@RealTechyGod please include the errors as text. Screenshots are not text.
 
the system complain about them not being properly formatted when pasted in as code. will try again
 
it allowed me to add the error to your post, but maybe it's applying fewer restrictions because I have more rep...that's annoying, if so. It shouldn't do that.
 
a cheat I found is to add the line submit and then edit and add 4 spaces
it's just really anoying
 
Okay, I can answer that question now. I see the issue. Just a moment.
 
is there anyway we can add "how to use an ImageButton to transfer user to another activity in Android Studio?" into the final question answer as others (like myself might be able to find it) im guessing the title change is relevant to the fact the question has evolved correct?
 
12:33 AM
@RealTechyGod The title change is related to the actual error, yep. I added an answer.
Basically, you're missing a parameter, and the same issue would happen with any onClick on any button that does anything. Interestingly, no one appears to have asked this exact question before, so I don't think it's a dupe.
 
Does the poster to a community wiki get pinged when there's a comment? reference
 
I also added a sentence that hopefully helps others find it quickly in the future thanks for the help @RyanM
 
No problem!
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica For me, I draw the line for spam-flagging job posts at off-site contact info, which wasn't really provided here (they linked the website, but I'd usually expect an email or phone number).
 
2:23 AM
Is this worth keeping? No Roomba self-answer. Question was asking for libraries. Asked and answered a month ago. -3 votes on question and +2 on answer.
Is this an answer?
 
3:52 AM
@Yatin a very good question. It doesn't appear to be a question, so I guess it must be.
 
4:04 AM
@Nick oh
 
 
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7:35 AM
@Yatin yes because we have permission to send comments here if we need help, it's from the time when we started SOBotics and needed more help, now normally it will all be handled from there.
 
7:58 AM
@Scratte Uggh .... if we only had a way to curate documentation. Oh wait ...
 
 
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9:03 AM
Generally, what is the time delay between a question being closed and being deleted?
 
@Yatin generally closed questions are not necessarily deleted; the Roomba help outlines cases where they aare
 
@tripleee was this question deleted by OP? Am I allowed to ask that (being <10k)?
OOh, the tag has info on how to ask a good question... I didn't know that. Cool :D
 
@Yatin yes it was; I don't think asking is problematic
 
Ok thank you for letting me know :)
 
9:21 AM
@Yatin Just click the link and in case of the OP deleting their question it says "This question was voluntarily removed by its author." else it's a generic "...removed for reasons of moderation..."
 
Just found this: duplicate but not closed, no roomba because accepted answer, but copied from another answer and given by a now-deleted user...
 
@leonheess nothing much we can do TBH; close as a duplicate and later delete-vote is probably the only course. I doubt a custom mod flag on the answer would work, given that the user is already deleted.
 
9:53 AM
@JeanneDark I never noticed that before :) I wish we had that for Answers too.
@rene I read about that. I found it to be unnecessarily hard to get to and navigate the buried documentation. So instead of copying from that, I just find HowTo Questions directly on Stack Overflow.
 
That some new-found spam product? ^ All three link to the same
 
@Adriaan I looks to me like the middle one is not the same.
 
@Scratte they promote the same product (see links), and the account name sounds eerily similar
 
@Scratte they had a deleted post earlier today which linked to the same site
on the same question
 
I suppose persistency (is that a word?) doesn't always pay off..
 
10:05 AM
persistence
 
Thanks :) English is tricky :)
 
@JeanneDark Thank you! I never noticed that :O Although now I feel like an idiot
 
Are questions along the lines of "What is the equivalent of function <x> in language A, when translating to language B?" off-topic? OTOH if there is a (direct) equivalent it's OK, but if one has to write it themselves, it sounds broad
 
@Adriaan How can I request deletion? Is there a SODVR-Chat or smth like that?
 
@Adriaan I just used an Answer to one of those type Questions to write a user script for chat
 
10:11 AM
@leonheess in this room, See e.g. FAQ #11
@Scratte that sentence makes no sense
 
@Adriaan Better? (Sorry, my head doesn't work right)
 
@Adriaan Is is allowed even though the post is >6 months old?
 
@Scratte grammatically maybe, but I still don't get what you mean
 
@leonheess That's not a problem for del requests, only for cv requests
 
@leonheess latest activity: 2 months ago.
 
10:16 AM
@Adriaan I wanted to know how to do an equivalent for a function in SQL. But in JavaScript. There was a Question that asked just that with several good Answers on it.
 
FAQ: "Note that the "recent activity" criteria applies only to cv-pls requests."
 
@Scratte a thanks, that makes more sense now.
 
@Adriaan My opinion is that those are OK. Sometimes the answers is "Yes, you can do this..". Other times the answer is "No. There's no equivalent. You'll have to implement it."
With time.. a new Answer could even come in with "There is now. It works like ..." :)
 
In this case though, I'm going with "Needs details"
 
@Adriaan I guess it's okay if it's a typical "how to" question and it's an illustration of what they want to achieve (so you could reformulate it by just describing the function to achieve without mentioning the other language's method). As long as it's not too broad in itself or a request to translate code from one language into another.
 
10:22 AM
@Adriaan I don't know "imp2ss". If they made an example of how they want to use it, would it then be OK in your mind?
 
@Scratte at least better, yes. See my comment; MATLAB functions often have large amounts of options (more than 20 is not uncommon), so a direct equivalent/translation is usually not available. However, for specific settings, there might be.
 
Interesting comment: "Welcome to Stackoverflow! When posting an answer, try to find out if the question has already been resolved and / or the question is old. If one of these conditions is satisfied, refrain from answering because it unnecessarily bumps the question to the top of the front page."
 
@JeanneDark I've seen that before. I am not comfortable with it.
 
I suspect it's done to complete a LA/FP review.
 
@tripleee What does 'This sounds like "wag the dog"' mean?
I'm thinking that hmm.. maybe if your message is lost on me. It may also be lost to them?
 
10:32 AM
@Scratte here
 
@Yatin ..right ok. So then I may know. But what about the author? :D
 
@Scratte done
 
moot now anyway; their comment was removed
 
;p
 
I'm still not understanding the implication. What is the "diversion" and what is the "damaging issue" in this case.
 
10:36 AM
more the general sense of "a seemingly less important entity controls a more important one." (from the Wikipedia disambiguation page)
 
Oh. So you mean to say that bumping a post is a silly reason to not Answer it?
 
though I guess the more common English idiom is to put the cart before the horse
@Scratte yeah
 
I do not think using English idioms will make users better understand :)
I was more concerned with the "don't answer posts that have an accepted answer"..
 
@Scratte terrible advice tbh
 
10:43 AM
@Yatin Despite the typo (anyone that can, may fix it if they want to :-) in the chat message, I guess it's just one more to the countable/uncountable infinite ways of misunderstanding Stack :)
 
 
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12:00 PM
 
12:26 PM
@tripleee out of CV's?
 
yup
 
^^ referenced in a new question
 
12:59 PM
Morning
 
@desertnaut I'm having a deja-vu...
 
@Tomerikoo ??
 
Good morning.
 
I guess they mean it feels like we see this same question multiple times per day from different users
 
@tripleee yeah there was just a close vote request by you a few moments ago also on a general ML question
 
1:05 PM
@cigien o/ Good morning :)
Is this an answer?
 
@Yatin For a POB question, I think so :p The "question is" part does make it seem like not an answer though.
 
@cigien oh you are right. I was too transfixed on the answer to realize that :)
 
Sorry for the (probably) dumb question, what's POB (except post office box)
 
primarily opinion based
 
1:20 PM
tnx. I suspected it's Opinion Based, couldn't figure what's the P
 
It used to be called POB. Not it is just OB... used interchangeably :)
 
Back in the good ol'days that was the name of the close reason. Then they dropped the "primarily" for whatever reason.
 
@Tomerikoo It's not a silly question at all. Also, in case you were wondering, NATO means "New answer to Old question". That's added as a reason for a cv-pls request, when the request would otherwise not be allowed, as there needs to be activity within the last 6 months related to that post.
 
Another silly question guys, how do most of you link the question with its title and name of author and time? As you can see above I just copy-paste the link and it's ugly
 
1:28 PM
I can't see that actually ;)
 
Is this a tool rec?
 
@Adriaan Yes, but can be reworded to not be one.
 
@Braiam Thanks, you're right of course. The dupe was easy enough though
 
@Adriaan In the case of the dupe target can someone please add an extra "f" after "of" to make it "off"... It is soo close to being perfect :(
^ boast off
 
2:08 PM
@Yatin given the one who edited that post last, I'm not certain enough of my English to make that edit
 
@Adriaan that is exactly why it makes this sooo worse. They are the god of editing here on SO and Wikipedia
 
@Yatin boast of is correct See idioms.thefreedictionary.com/boast+of
 
@Dharman :O
 
Show off = boast of ? :)
 
TIL: boast off is used only 1% of times
@Vega ==
 
2:16 PM
Is this answer NAA? It looks somewhat strange and doesn't seem to have much to do with the question.
 
@JeanneDark yep
 
Thanks
 
Bountied questions aren't closable right?
 
Yep
 
well you can flag for moderator... if clear case and they will remove bounty and close it ;)
 
In general however mods prefer to let the bounty run... so only flag very clear case stuff.
 
I am referring to this question BTW
 
@Yatin I would not flag that, let it be let the bounty run
 
@Yatin I would hammer it if there were no bounty
 
@Vega ik... what a terrible waste of rep :/
 
2:27 PM
@Vega then you can try to mod flag, if clear cut duplicate I guess they will remove bounty and prefer dupe, max I guess that they will approve but don't do anything...
 
@Yatin Not sure, but I think you can mod flag it, and they'll decide if the question should be closed (and it should be), before the bounty is done, or after it has expired.
 
Howdy. Found 5 pretty blatant spam answers (same user) that we (CHQ) want to send to Smokey. Are you guys okay with that? I know there was a bit of a discussion about it before, but I wasn't present for the convo.
The hinging issue is just the amount ofchat messages that will pop up for y'all.
 
I'm fine with it
 
@Spevacus 5 or 6 is no big deal. We do have user scripts to clean up transcripts once posts are handled (I know Charcoal tends to keep everything) and move 'completed' reports to a secondary room.
 
Is this question on-topic?
 
2:38 PM
ugh, is there any way to change the dup target on a flag? I just realized I picked the wrong target.
 
ooh Biden surpass in Michigan.. if he also keeps Nevada..
 
@TylerH Coolio. Thanks for the reply. :)
 
@code11 Just post the correct dup as a comment. As long as the question will get closed is the important thing...
 
@Yatin Why is it spam?
 
Didn't understand as well, anyway flagged as NAA...
 
2:49 PM
i.stack.imgur.com/nRSCQ.png How come this got spam nuked with only 4 dv?
 
Maybe a mod saw it
 
@Dharman click on the link... it is trying to sell something...
 
@JeanneDark nope.. it says when mods nuke it or maybe not...
 
The only way this could happen is if a mod was the 4th one to flag
If a mod deletes then there is their name, but if they flag as spam then community deletes
 
@PetterFriberg Another mod spam flagged it
 
2:51 PM
aah yeah your probably right... I forgot that spam nuke maybe it does not indicate the mod..
 
@Yatin this to be exact
 
Thanks Mac
 
I still don't see how it was spam
It was a really bad NAA, but not spam
 
The link is super spammy...
it's hard to think it's some kind of signature...
 
They didn't know how this site works. They wanted to ask a question but they failed
 
2:53 PM
hmm with a link to tonerpro...
 
They linked to the example where they have the same problem
 
not the answer that I see
 
It seems to be their website. They said they have a problem with review page so they linked to a sample review page
 
i.stack.imgur.com/W5HZE.png .. this is the one I'm looking at
 
And that is exxcatly what I see on their site. Review posted on 24 12 2020
 
2:57 PM
Ah! I see your point. I think I was too hasty... It should have had been flagged as NAA
 
You have to understand that a lot of people using Magento are not programmers. They might have never even heard of such thing as a programming language. They installed it and something doesn't work for them so they are searching for help the only way they know how... by posting a link to the problem
 
baah maybe your right but 1 rep user since today... I guess they learned to not put toner link on SO... (anyway I never flagged)
 
@Dharman Hope that's not considered chat-spamming but I just recently discovered your NAA bot and it's awesome! ^_^
 
@Tomerikoo have you met natty?
 
My NAA bot is not chat spamming :D Thanks. I welcome any improvements
 
3:00 PM
@Yatin I got the idea of what it is but didn't dive to the details...
 
@Yatin meh, this is not spam, agree with Dharman
 
@Yatin I see you also using the NAA bot ;D you always beat me to them lol
@Dharman just to make it clear I meant that I hope my message thanking you and your bot is not spamming this chat :|
 
I know, I made an unfunny joke
 
@Tomerikoo nah it is ok... we are humans here a bit of chatting doesn't hurt
 
My bots are more interesting than I am
 
3:04 PM
 
@Dharman lol but you created them so that must mean that you're interesting too...
 
@JeanneDark No, it's not.
 
@Shree translation "Here could be your advertising"
very fishy indeed
 
@Shree I am giving them a benefit of the doubt, it looks like they didn't know how to post less than 30 chars
 
@Shree Nah I think they are joking...
 
3:06 PM
@Yatin Op has some rep so I hesitate for red flag.
Ok . thanks.
 
@Yatin Like "tiny tiny answer" <too much blank space> here could be your advertisement <too much blank space>
 
@yivi Thanks!
 
@Dharman I did say it was a SD report :)
 
4:32 PM
lol
2
 
@MarcoBonelli 😲
 
stackoverflow.com/q/63466040/4826457 is this close worthy? (NATO. The answer seems link only)
 
@MarcoBonelli I flagged that for cleanup. It does look ugly :p Also, you might want to redact the user's name.
 
@SurajRao Question -> not sure. Answer -> looks okay... they mentioned the books name (and even the page number) so even if the link dies it is still useful
 
@SurajRao reads as a sizing / operations issue. That is hardly a programming issue I would say.
I can live with off-topic / resource request
 
4:38 PM
@MarcoBonelli how to reproduce that?
 
@Yatin it says page number without actual name of the book.. also is it not still "your answer is in another castle"?
 
@SurajRao Name of the book linked: "Microsoft SQL Server Analysis Services Multidimensional Performance and Operations Guide"
 
@SurajRao it mentions what you need to know but I would have guessed that without reading a 112 page pdf ....
 
ah my bad
 
@rene yea looks like off-topic... I think it can be edited to look normal (in the case of off-site resources)
 
4:40 PM
That google link is awful
 
Looks like general compute to me
 
@Yatin Use inline code with spaces on Chrome
 
@Dharman is it a know bug?
 
@Yatin it appears you can post comments containing newlines
 
Yes, it is a known bug
It happens in all kind of posts and comments
 
4:46 PM
I remember reporting this a long time ago on MSE, I thought it was fixed.
 
I also reported a bug.. see this. Still not fixed :(
 
4:57 PM
@Tomerikoo heh. I don't even understand what they're asking ...
 
@tink OP wants to chuck a list 2 elements at a time. The target looks correct to me.
 
@tink well basically how to iterate over a list in chunks of 2 - duplicate suggested "How to iterate over a list in chunks of n"
Assuming the OP can make the tough step of n = 2 that's a dup
 
Heh
 
@SurajRao What's the consensus for dealing with those answers? I mean it's basically a link-only but that's what the question is asking for. The answer answers the question is just that the question itself is off-topic...
 
But why are they trying to iterate over a newly defined list with 1 element?
 
5:04 PM
@tink loooool I didn't even notice... I have no idea...
 
=}
 
@Tomerikoo I don't know about consensus, but I've had NAA flags declined in that situation before. Based on that feedback, just close question, don't worry about answer.
 
@code11 Seems logic to me too... Was wondering what is usually done
 
@Tomerikoo The reason to delete those answers is because they aren't answering the question. In this case, they are answering the question.
 
@Braiam You got me confused. So do you think it's answering or not?
 
5:12 PM
@Tomerikoo the answer is alright then. Flag the question.
 
How can I force reject an edit after I already rejected it?
I know in the past you could single handledly reject it
 
@Dharman Let's open a room SO edit reviewers (if there isn't already one...)
 
@Tomerikoo If the questions asks for off-site resources or links then the answer which is a link-only is an answer. Otherwise flag the answer
 
@Dharman yep what I thought... Thanks for confirming
 
@Tomerikoo I don't know. The guidance just says "Don't get me wrong, it's still a bad answer - but when the question is kinda asking for bad answers this is to be expected."
 
@Braiam Yes exactly. Gotcha, thanks
 
Flagging only applies when the question don't ask for bad answers.
 
I'm not sure I understand the argument on this post. I was under the impression that asking for a different way to do the same thing was OK. (Disregarding the "better")
 
@Scratte It is an added bonus to suggest better ways when you answer, but the questions here should usually have an error or a wrong output. If the code works, it should maybe be in CodeReview
 
@Scratte "asking for a different way to do the same thing" I'm not so sure about this specific instance; "how to do x" is OK, but OP already has a working solution for that. They don't specify how they expect or desire other solutions to differ. The only thing to go on here is the "the better way" phrase, which means they're essentially asking for a code review/POB request.
 
5:18 PM
@Scratte feels opinion-based. And more suited on CodeReview
 
@Scratte But can you disregard the "better"? With it it becomes opinion-based.
 
@JeanneDark if that word is the only thing make it closable, edit it out. Or ignore it, if it can't attract bad answers or prevent good ones.
 
@JohnDvorak "What I did is below and it works but I want to learn another way." Better?
 
sounds too broad - but, instead of just any answer, you can ask for better in a specific way
 
^+1
 
5:26 PM
@Tomerikoo So if someone want's a better way, they should deliberately introduce an error?!? I've seen a lot of those posts where users ask for a different way to do the same thing. "How can do this with less code?" or "How can I do this using X technique".
 
@Scratte Well I would say that asking for a specific defined other way might be OK, but simply asking for a "better" is off-topic...
 
but I'd say it's safe to read "better" as "objectively better" as in "considered better by 2/3 of senior programmers proficient in the language"
 
@Tomerikoo Disregard the trigger word, please.
 
I mean it just becomes OB, what is "Better"? Do you need it faster? Less lines?
 
would you consider "cleaner" an objective metric @Tomerikoo?
 
5:29 PM
I think that question should just be asked on Code Review. They are the best figuring out how to make code objectively better
 
@Tomerikoo That's not my point though. One could ask for another way to do it, no?
 
In their case they define better as "better obtaining the objective"
 
@JohnDvorak Might be, but then again it should be on CodeReview...
 
I've seen a lot of posts with an old way to do something in java with working code. Then they ask how to do it with Java 8.
 
@Scratte That's also different... The post you linked is about Python. If someone was showing a working Python 2 code asking about it not working as 3 is a different story
 
5:31 PM
My main issue here is if it's a how to question, users are promptly told to include code. But.. it seems they shouldn't put code, because then they have working code?!?..
@Tomerikoo Are you saying that code doesn't work in Python 2?
 
@Scratte What do you mean? There are differences you know? I mean working code on Python 2 might not work as 3...
 
@Tomerikoo I just wondered if it did work in Python 2 :) Since all they'd need to add as per your message here was "This works in Python 2. How can I do the same in Python 3?"
 
@Scratte That would basically be a code with an error so it's not like asking for the same code in a different way ;D
 
@Tomerikoo OK. It would be in Java. Except for a few deprecated stuff..
 
@Scratte Even a "How to" question needs a clear problem statement, so that it has one correct solution in principle (but there can be several answers trying to solve it). "How to do X so I get Y?" is quite different from "I did X. What's a better way to do it?"
 
5:39 PM
@JeanneDark in that it contains an attempt - and that's something we should never discourage
 
@JeanneDark If it had been my Question, I'd have given input and output to be clear about how it should work and not let some poor answerer discover it on their own by running the code. I'd probably then blahblah something about it being too long and how to reduce the lines of code (instead of triggering curators with words that would mean the same thing, like "cleaner") and ask "Is it possible to do this differently?"
So I guess my question is: Do I really need to introduce an error into my attempt too?
 
You just need to be clear about what is "better" for you. Faster, more aesthetically pleasing etc.
 
@JeanneDark "more aesthetically pleasing" is different for everyone, no? :)
 
Yeah, 'more aesthetically pleasing' does not pass the bar
 
@Scratte that's not what I meant
 
5:44 PM
for Python, which is one of the worst offenders for POB questions, you could get by with saying "meets PEP-8 guidelines"
 
more likely to pass code review
 
but otherwise it's an opinion-fest
 
I do not think there's an adjective on earth that will pass the bar for those that likes to close based on such words. They can always be argued to be opinion. Not that I agree.
 
@JohnDvorak That's probably unnecessary; you'd need to list what the metrics for the code review are. In which case, just ask about those metrics without adding 'code review' noise to the conversation
 
@Scratte That's kind of the point. How do we kow what they mean when they write "better"?
 
5:45 PM
@JeanneDark We don't need to. Plurality of answers means more useful for searchers.
 
@JeanneDark In this case: Anything else but that :D It's implied too. Nobody would ever ask a Question saying "I'd like a poor solution" or "I want a worse solution".
Which is why I tried to keep the "better" word out of my question here.. because it can just be edited out and changed to "different", which any other solution objectively would be, no?
 
Then answer the question with highly optimized code and then you get a downvote and comment saying with "better" they wanted it to be clear so it can be maintained easier. And questions just asking for different an better approaches are also not easily searchable for future visitors.
 
but then that would invite answers that are different for the sake of being different, and that aren't necessarily better
@JeanneDark any rationale for the last claim?
 
@JohnDvorak I'm not sure how having the word "better" in the Question would prevent that though ;)
 
@Scratte then you can say you told them you actually want good solutions ;)
 
5:51 PM
That what the triangles are for :D
 
6:28 PM
@DavidBuck Hmm, that just got protected by community. What does that mean?
 
How the heck do you upload images without them posting immediately
I guess it relates to these two NAAs, now deleted i.stack.imgur.com/DWKU8.png
 
@DavidBuck You can't in chat.
I usually upload them to a post on main and then just copy the link
 
@DavidBuck Nice second one though :)
 
userscript to upload/publish without onebox?
 
6:47 PM
@JohnDvorak Not even sure how the logic should work on such
 
@Scratte Send an upload request via the API and copy the URL that is returned, then paste it into the chat box, or something like that
 
Just override the upload dialog when in SOCVR
 
Ohh.. right :)
@JohnDvorak Are you asking us if we want one, or if we have one? :)
 
yes.
 
Ahh.. the upload button in chat doesn't work with copy'n'paste.
That would be very handy..
 
6:52 PM
Yeah. Not being able to paste files is extremely annoying.
 
motion to cancel the no-onebox rule
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Are we going to vote for that motion? I'm not sure this is a democracy ;)
 
I think the motion has already been moved ... IIRC, some time ago there was a discussion and it was added to the agenda for the next Room Meeting.
@Scratte I demand a recount!
 
Fantastic.. if we all want that, we can have animated gifs of cute cats playing with yarn and stuff.
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@TylerH lol, really we need to that :), is it not enough that we make sure the image is not to big and edit the message..
 
7:06 PM
@Scratte Would you like a meta post made?
 
@Spectric I do not think meta can decide on one-boxing policy of this room :P
 
How about meta SE?
 
no, not animated. Static small should be fine though. Definitely chat quotes at least.
Of note, there is a userscript to add a play/stop button over every GIF on chat.se.
 
@JohnDvorak I know there's at least one that's supposed to do that, but when I briefly tried it, it didn't work for me.
 
Never seen a gif on SO before, ngl
 
7:09 PM
@JohnDvorak I am not agreeing :) We need at least a new rule for the frequency of one-boxing an earlier message, as I have seen the message, the one-boxed message once.. and the same one-boxed message twice in less than 20 lines of chat here. I think we need more rules :P
 
Smokey/AIM's spinner is a gif. The playlist script catches it. The play/pause button is larger than the spinner. :grimacing:
 
I think we need a user script that zero-boxes one-boxed messages :) That would be handy :)
 
@JohnDvorak I mean, feeds only post onebox.
 
@Scratte seconded. Most likely only Rene would be using it though :P
 
@JohnDvorak Honestly, I'm on rene's team. I'd most certainly use it too. Though I'd like the script to show the one-box on hover :)
 
7:13 PM
What if the onebox leads to the transcript, where it shows normally?
 
@JohnDvorak If the one-box is shown in a pop-up sort of thing, one can just click on the link, no? Unless you mean to say that hovering over it would automatically redirect to the origin of the message, which would be very.. aggravating :)
 
I do suppose a floating insert on click would be very doable.
 
I can safely flag this as NAA right?
Also what to do with this answer? It is seems like NAA but my main consern is the invitation to a zoom call
 
@Yatin For the first link, doesn't seem like an answer to me.
 
@Yatin That is not that uncommon. Some users don't understand the concept of the Question / Answer format.
 
7:20 PM
@Yatin For that and your previous link, I raised NAA and added a delete-vote on both for good measure.
 
I'm going to start counting how many times you say "delete vote" in your messages :P
 
With or without the hyphen?
 
@AdrianMole thanks :)
 
NP - Mods seem to have sorted out both. {adding "delete-vote" to confuse Scratte}
 
Also, this question is asking for external resources right
 
7:24 PM
@Scratte such a userscript already exists. However, using it is a personal preference. SOCVR's issue is keeping the transcript clear and easy to read for everyone, by default.
 
@Yatin A better close-reason is About network admin...
 
@AdrianMole it would be better if someone else handles the cv-pls. I don't really understand that question.
 
Probably doesn't need our help.
 
@Makyen I wasn't advocating that SOCVR should allow one-boxes. I perfer the reverse type of script, that if one hovers over a link in chat, one will see a pop-up sort of thing that will show the image / message / post, and disappear again when one moves away the mouse. Clicking on it could open up the link in a different tab, like search always does. That would make it easy to see what's in a message, but keep the transcript clear :)
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7:32 PM
Thanks :D I'm dying here.. :D
 
@Scratte Well, I do use a browser extension which shows a popup for images when an image link is hovered. Showing a popup for generic links is non-trivial to get right.
I did implement in a version of the URRS a popup preview of any question or answer chat which showed when hovering over the in-chat status marker. But I took it out prior to releasing the current generation of the URRS, as it was a bit much to to all at once. I've been considering adding it back it, but making it such that the view was "live" when you mouse over it, at least enough such that you can do at least most of the easy post manipulation (at least close/delete vote).
Unfortunately, I haven't gotten to it yet. However, it's something which I'm also wanting in FIRE, so it has multiple places where it would be useful.
 
suggestion to allow oneboxes, and if an image isn't unoneboxed in two minutes, trash and remind to edit in time next time
 
@Makyen Your own or one you found on the internet somewhere? :)
 
@JohnDvorak Too much work, IMO. The rule, as it is, is simple and easy to both comply with and administer. Making it more complex puts additional load on ROs and users.
 
@Makyen Don't sweat it. There are always things that one wants to have done. Programming is worse than laundry :)
 
7:39 PM
... motion to officially allow chat quotes at least.
Fair though.
 
Isn't that already allowed if the chat-quote is a one-liner no bigger than a message? I've seen some quotes getting awfully big, but maybe those were comments from posts.
 
If so, I'm glad to hear it is
 
Don't rely on me to be the judge though. I'm not a Room Owner.. just very noisy :) I've just noticed one-boxed small messages that weren't removed. I've seen a Room Owner put them here even, so.. I just assumed :)
 
Comment oneboxes are tiny and only get a vbar next to them. Chat oneboxes do get a bit of margin around them.
 
@JohnDvorak Oh. Perhaps I'm confused about those then. I've seen a lot of vbar messages.
 
7:45 PM
@Scratte It's a Firefox extension: Imagus.
 
@Makyen Oh.. I think it will be difficult to make it work for Opera.
 
@Makyen oh, neat. I do worry though it would poison my YouTube history.
 
@JohnDvorak Then...disable the rule for YouTube, or change the YouTube rule to only fetch a jpg.
 
A timelapse gif like the front page does would be perfect, but JPG will also do. Thanks.
 
@JohnDvorak There's not much point in saying you motion for something here in chat in general. As we've said several times, if you want to propose a change to the current room rules, file an Issue on the SOCVR Room Meetings GitHub repo. As I look now, I don't see an issue for the thing you're requesting.
Bonus points for the next issue to be filed being the 6th one, bringing us to an hour's worth of topics to discuss (which is the general length we tend to run meetings for).
 
7:50 PM
@JohnDvorak Assuming that we don't allow quotes of quotes (or quotes of things which we don't otherwise permit), you might get me to agree to those specifically, as they do tend to be compact and automatically include the attribution which is required for a quote. I have, however, seen several of those that are significantly more noisy than we would want.
 
Can someone please edit the images into this answer? The suggested edit queue is always full when you need to edit.
 
@Yatin would that make it worth keeping though?
 
It is an answer nevertheless. So I would say yeah... It is salvageable... Also the answerer is new (joined today)
 
But it's image-only. And NATVO.
 
It does have a few lines of explanation. :/
 
7:53 PM
as images
 
nah as text that acts like links to images
 
Anyways, it's just been done
does the link text actually say enough to qualify?
 
The voting system should take care of that... Atleast the answer is more useful than what it was :)
 
suppose so
 
8:15 PM
Will this be considered NAA?
 
@Yatin The link is the answer, not the content of the link ;)
It's about which parameters to pass to an API to obtain certain results.
 
@Braiam Oh yeah you are right. Thank you! I had flagged this and my flag was rejected. I see my mistake now :)
 
8:59 PM
Is it a good question to ask "What is the difference between syntax A and B?"
 
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