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12:19 AM
@Machavity Does no one here believe in spoiler alerts???
 
@KenWhite Spoiler alerts are Too Broad. Please edit the question to limit it to a specific problem with enough detail to identify an adequate answer. :P
or should that be Primarily Opinion Based. lol
 
@Nkosi Very well done. I concede. :-) You get your soup back.
 
yaay \o/
 
2:25 AM
 
3:59 AM
@StephenKennedy not sure I agree that it requests off-site resources, but clearly too broad and primarily opinion-based, as well as possibly general computing
 
@tripleee Yes, TB would probably be nearer the mark
 
@EJoshuaS I wouldn't go so far; it's the author of the question attempting to explain what the program outputs
 
@tripleee Looks like trolling to me. I could be wrong, though.
 
4:14 AM
@EJoshuaS I agree with @tripleee. What makes you feel it's not the question OP adding output?
 
@Makyen If it's not trolling, why the need to have it go on for so long?
 
@EJoshuaS I'd go with Hanlon's razor on this one.
 
4:54 AM
 
5:25 AM
@sideshowbarker Your most recent prior cv-pls was also a question by the same user. That's often a symptom of user targeting. How did you encounter this second question?
 
Pardon if this is a silly question but is there any easy way to assemble a message with the format [cv-pls][tag] <reason> <link> <user> <timestamp> or do you folks manually assemble messages via copy paste?
 
@cs95 We have a Request Generator userscript. You can find links to it and some other helpful userscripts on our tools page. If you are not using Greasemonkey 4 as your userscript manager, then I suggest the alpha version. Please also read our FAQ, if you have not already done so.
 
Ah, thought there'd be. Cheers
 
More questions in the close vote queue if anyone has spare votes.
 
5:46 AM
 
5:59 AM
@Makyen I encountered it from following a link in the first question at stackoverflow.com/questions/56678003/…. The very first line of that question is link with the hypertext I asked this question a few days ago here in stackoverflow.
@Makyen So I followed that link and read that question expecting to get some clarity about the first (too broad) question, but found the linked question was very unclear and left me even less sure about exactly what the OP was actually trying to do. So I commented and cv-pls’ed that one too. Is that bad practice? Is that a type of user targeting?
 
@sideshowbarker That's... a good question. Personally, my first take on it is that I'd probably say no, as it's following content, not really the user. However, I'd want to think about it. I find it somewhat analogous to finding a self-duplicate, which is also following content.
 
@Makyen OK. But anyway now I see the OP self-deleted both questions. Which perhaps is for the best but it’s a new user and now I feel like I should have taken the time to tell the user, Please don’t take this personally — it’s not a criticism of you — but these questions as-is don’t seem like a good fit for SO.
… or something like that
 
@sideshowbarker That sounds reasonable
 
yeah I don’t want to inadvertently have the effect of scaring people away from ever using SO as place to ask useful questions and get useful answers
 
@sideshowbarker I read a meta post about how a lot of beginners feel unwelcome on SO meta because they have to keep their mouth shut and spend at least a year or so before they can even consider making suggestions without being buried with negative feedback. This kind of extends to the parent site as well where the expectations for the quality of posts for beginners is more often then not more then what they can handle. In particular I remember this quote:
"Often I have a feeling that everything on SO is just so perfect, but I am a human not a robot and I am not perfect."
 
6:12 AM
@sideshowbarker Yeah, I'd noticed they'd been self-deleted. There've been times I've wished I'd said things like that. On rare occasions, I've left comments on another post by a user as a way of communicating with them. I always make sure to delete the comments when done, as the comment(s) aren't about the post they are on. I also try to select a post where it's unlikely others will see the comment(s) and definitely not one with a single other commenter, so that user won't be pinged.
 
@Matthew yeah I can certainly empathize with that sentiment.
@Makyen Yeah I guess I should do that in this case
 
@sideshowbarker Given what you've said, it sounds like it might be reasonable in this case.
 
OK
As far as the ongoing meta perm-topic of beginners feeling unwelcome, I think the flip side is that more could be done to help beginners understand the gravity (as it were) of posting questions to SO — in that, when you post something, a lot of people are going to look at it and a lot of the ones who do take the time are are (like us) going to spend time sincerely trying to understand what problem you’re trying to solve
… so it’s not an ideal thing if you cause N different people to spend significant amount of time reading through your questions trying to decipher what actual problem you’re trying to solve, but not being able to successfully in the end
 
@Matthew While I understand that sentiment, and there are things that some established users do which are unwelcomming, I'd say the significant majority of people who feel unwelcome get there because of them failing to take the time to try to integrate into the group, rather expecting the group integrate to them. And, that's just not the way human social systems work.
 
@Makyen yeah, agreed — but I think that’s something the ideally should be communicated more effectively to beginners (somehow) before they post
maybe there’s no practical way to do communicate it well, and maybe the type of user who really needs to hear it is also the type most likely to ignore the attempts to communicate that too them
 
6:22 AM
@sideshowbarker Yes, this happens a lot. Asking good questions is a skill. It's one that most people don't understand well, at least not until they have considerable experience being the one trying to answer other people's questions.
 
right
it’s a real skill
but anyway, the “being welcoming to beginners” problems is not of course a problem that’s unique at all to SO anyway.
 
@sideshowbarker Yes, asking questions really is a skill. I don't mean that from just an SO/SE standpoint, but from a standpoint of asking good answerable questions in general. While there are portions of asking here that are SO specific, the largest portion of it is just how to ask a good question that effectively communicates what you desire to know and provides enough context such that it's answerable.
 
they should do more A/B testing within the Ask Question wizard to add various hints and guidelines and see what actually works
but it's likely not a One Size Fits All problem anyway
 
@sideshowbarker That's true. It's part of any established social group.
@tripleee That would be nice. Hopefully they will get around to it. Unfortunately, I agree with @sideshowbarker in that what new people need to know is often the things they are dead-set on ignoring, or at least that they don't care about in their focus on solving their immediate problem.
 
@Makyen yes. And I think another part of question-asking is having a mindset where you don’t tap the rest of the world for help with a question until you’ve done your own due diligence as far as exploring all the possibilities for finding a solution on your own first (to the best of your abilities)
 
6:31 AM
@sideshowbarker I agree, but that's also something that usually needs to be trained into people, preferably from a young age (which we obviously can't do here).
@sideshowbarker Frankly, the most important thing that one can learn from "an education" is how to learn, not any particular set of facts on some subject. Unfortunately, for a lot of people, their goto action for solving a problem is to ask questions, expecting to be hand-fed solutions, rather than to try to think about it and go discover the solutions for themselves. Obviously, there are times when asking other people questions is the right thing to do, but it shouldn't be the primary tool.
 
@Makyen This is due to the nature of modern communication and the ability to access incredible blobs of data in matter of seconds. Because of this most people have started treating everything in life as an on-demand service, which of course extends to SO and ME in general.
 
I'll ask the Twitter Wizard instead ...
 
6:56 AM
@Matthew I'm sure that contributes to it.
I'm wondering if that's it, or if it's a symptom of how information is found (or at least a contributor the the shift). People have gotten more used to being able to ask quite focused questions from search engines and assistants and get just the small bit of data they were looking for, rather than having to find a reference and then finding the specific information they desired within the reference.
 
7:55 AM
\o
 
|o
 
8:23 AM
o/
 
\o
 
8:56 AM
I'm not sure but during seggested edit review I something strang. An annonymouse user wanted to edit an solution.. just be replacing code.. nothing more. I'm curious if this was a bot from a foreign website attempting to clutter SO. The question about is: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/23321043
 
@ZF007 Users that aren't logged in can suggest edits, they appear as anonymous users. Just treat it as any other edit, if it was some bot then it would be chucking spam, not editing code
 
okay..thanks for the the feedback.
 
9:21 AM
I found a quadruple perfect identical question from 7 months ago: 1, 2, 3, 4. If we merge or close them as duplicate, that will be 3 alternative signposts for the exact same question, no?
 
How did.... what?
All of their id's are within a range of 10.... how did nobody notice that 4 posts out of 10 were identical?
 
What the heck...
 
@Cœur yep, on the signpost thing.
 
@NickA because it's ?
 
@RiggsFolly you're late ....
 
9:25 AM
@Cœur Try to comment to user... maybe some problem when posting question and they did not realize they create 4... hence user can delete the others.
They all seem to have more or less same timestamp...
 
 
Morning! o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
o/
 
@rene OP beat me to it :)
 
10:26 AM
Out of curiosity and totally unrelated towards SOCVR: how can I see the "how manith's" badge holder of f.e. my gold python batch I was when i got it?
do I need to go into sql/query?
 
@Matthew :agrees and leaves chastised:
 
Thanks @JonClements, it was a serial DV as I expect it ;)
Serial voting was revered
 
Zoe
10:54 AM
@Matthew Oh no, how terrible!!!1
 
@Zoe Hope you didn't believe I was being serious there :D
 
Zoe
@Matthew You weren't?! Don't you know we hate fun?!!!
 
@Zoe That thought hadn't crossed my mind even once since the moment I stepped foot in S(O)CVR.
 
Zoe
You forgot to read the FAQ, didn't you?
 
Not again, lol
 
Zoe
11:01 AM
(/-_-)/
 
11:36 AM
@Matthew Always check before you click or get the Rick
I learnt that the hard way
 
@Nkosi It's only my second time I got rolled in this room.
 
wow things have really cooled down.
 
:D
 
Zoe
@Matthew I can roll you down a hill if you want 3 :P
 
@Zoe I thought you would never ask <3
 
Zoe
11:40 AM
xD
 
A Rick Rolling fox gathers no moss
3
 
Zoe
But does a rolled fox roll rolls of ricks for SOCVRoll?
 
12:02 PM
@Matthew I've only been rolled once since starting coming in here... and it was by Zoe -.-
 
Zoe
:D
 
@NickA Yea by who else... that rascal...
 
12:37 PM
That SD report is spam
 
1:12 PM
What are your opinions about this question?
Do you believe it was justified to place it on hold for being off-topic?
 
Is there a Meta about it? It's way too broad at the bare minimum
 
@Machavity It's a new question (asked today) so I doubt it.
 
@Matthew I agree with Deceze (and not just because he's a mod). Arguing over the reason (unless you think it was on-topic, but merely a dupe) is pointless. Closed is closed
 
@Machavity ^ seconded
 
I'm also remiss to recommend a migration without knowing all the ins and outs of the recipient site. Inform the OP the other site exists and let them ask it over there
 
1:25 PM
Do you think It would fit on softwareengineering?
 
It's possible but I'm not active enough over there to know. I do know they are more permissive on broader discussions like that but I wouldn't want to push my luck either
Does this Q look Too Broad?
 
@Machavity The answer is just "Yes", maybe unclear?
or straight out resource request?
@Angramme Please don't speak about votes in this chat, since you also you have no idea who actually voted..
 
@Angramme It's never possible to know for sure who votes up/down, or which way on any post.
 
it looks bad (voting ring) even if your intentions are just to be nice
 
1:42 PM
@Makyen Say that about the revenge serial voting i got yesterday after rolling back a post, and voting to close and being targeted with harassing comments...
 
still you are just guessing :)
 
Good guess though ;)
 
@NickA You may feel you have a good idea who voted, but you never actually know. The only people that can know are the person(s) that voted and SE employees with appropriate access.
 
@Makyen Of course you don't know for certain, but it's helpful to have some idea if you want to raise an issue with SE CS
 
@NickA Not really. The only thing you should be reporting is suspicious patterns of votes.
 
1:49 PM
 
@NickA baah I would not state my idea, it just seems lame, SE if they want can check and know for sure
 
Perhaps I was just thinking it would save time, although by looking at an account it should be pretty clear immediately if something is dodgy, fair enough
 
I have been targeted for serial downvotes many times for just leaving comments on NAA answer (I bet they think I downvoted, which I often do not do, too much work and I always hope OP will just self delete instead)
I think if serial stuff maybe even mods can see the pattern...
 
@PetterFriberg As I understand it, moderators get a bit more information, which helps see patterns, but not enough information to actually know who the voter(s) are.
 
waffle thanks
 
1:54 PM
np
 
Finally taking the dark-mode leap to see how it works out. Let's see if it grows on me.
oh....my.....
 
It so dark ...
 
@Machavity I wouldn't go that far to call that an "argument". All I did was state my opinion on the matter to which he replied by asking me if I do agree with him that it's off topic on which I said yes. That was pretty much it.
 
So only a 5 minute argument?
 
so dark you can't find the switch to turn it off. bye Nkosi, nice knowing you!
 
2:02 PM
@rene Is it dark or just out of focus? Both are so hard to see...
 
in the words of Gandalf... "I have no memory of this place"
 
It's only a minute argument at most
 
no it isn't
 
I don't actually know what I'm talking about, I'm just trying to pull off a pun
 
@JohnDvorak Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour
 
2:04 PM
Having looked at the question, I agree with closure
 
@rene We actually were not in disagreement, it was the other user that was arguing with him. I was on his side the whole time, and the whole altercation lasted less then a minute. But if it makes you feel better thinking I was bickering back and forth for minutes without yielding then go right ahead and think that.
 
@Matthew You get my point. Argument, disagreement, questioning... All in the same wheelhouse
 
I love also how you argue with rene :D, let it continue for more then 5 minutes...
 
@Machavity No they are not in the same wheelhouse. Me asking a question, telling you I disagree about something and actively arguing with you (telling you that you are wrong and have to accept my position) are not the same things.
 
!team one-question-isn't-bickering
 
2:06 PM
"A whole new world......" <breaks out into song>
 
But fine, let's all bicker about whether Matthew was bickering.
 
lol
 
@PetterFriberg You guys have a really low threshold for what you consider arguing which apparently includes asking questions, politely replying on accusations and saying you disagree... ah wow.
 
@JohnDvorak I heard you wanted some bickering with your bickering.....
 
@Matthew I'm just joking, sorry.
 
Youtube, DuckDuckGo, now SO.....the trifecta is now complete. Now to find a bloody candle to locate the light switch.
no..wait...mobile phone's got a flash light.....ahhhhhhh
 
@Matthew Fair enough. It's perfectly fine to question the reason (and you were only questioning). I'm only saying that the question itself is moot. Closed is closed. I'm not trying to imply anything else
 
@Nkosi Is it as dark as the Mines of Moria?
 
@Makyen What happens in the Mines of Moria stays in the Mines of Moria
:P
 
@Nkosi :-) Mostly, but some escape. :-)
 
2:13 PM
LOTR4: Leaving Moria. A Peter Jackson production
 
@Machavity It's got to be a 3 movie series.
 
Then depending on how it goes you do a 3 movie prequel
milk it for all it's worth
 
Gollum: the Musical. We just need the right Producers
 
2:43 PM
@DeveshKumarSingh That to me is an incorrect use of the Too Broad reason, there is no requirement for attempt, the answer is well contained... down vote instead
I bet there is a dupe for that instead
 
I think it's specific enough that there isn't a dupe. Too localized, if you will.
too broad is the next best on the list of closure reasons.
 
which have been retired as close reason :), it's not too broad, I can't judge if it's unclear, it does not need MCVE, it's not a resource request and it's about programming.... as I see it, its incorrect to close if you can't find dupe.
 
2:57 PM
Do you mean !!/report?
 
@JohnDvorak These are already SD reported. The reasons are still experimental so they don't appear here
Not enough of a pattern yet to raise it to a blacklist
 
@PetterFriberg So what should be the reason? Too Broad( No MVCE) ?
 
@DeveshKumarSingh According to me you can't close'em, You had some comments that made it seem that maybe unclear... normally you should find a dupe. The too broad according to me is misused as a general downvote reason (this is simple, research it). According to me you should only use if question is really too broad. It now have this banner
> Please edit the question to limit it to a specific problem with enough detail to identify an adequate answer. Avoid asking multiple distinct questions at once
I can't see how that's helpful, what should the user do?
pass some random code as an attempt??, is that useful for future users??.. but yeah I'm just bickering as usual :)
 
hey @Petter!
 
@cs95 \o, What up?, changed name your old coldspeed correct!
 
3:07 PM
@PetterFriberg Well the user just posted an input and an output, and he doesn't really tell us how did he came from the input to output, so it can be thought of as unclear, and also too broad
 
@PetterFriberg coldspeed? who dat whistles innocently
but yes, changed to a more professional username :)
 
@DeveshKumarSingh If it's unclear it's unclear... that sounds fair... but too broad if it's clear na :)
 
@PetterFriberg To be fair, the final CV i gave was an unclear one...
 
@PetterFriberg Is there a way for me to see if I voted too broad, or voted unclear
 
Pro user cs95... yeah sounds reasonable.
 
3:09 PM
short of using my actual name or my LDAP, both of which are liabilities...
 
@DeveshKumarSingh no, but in this case it's not really important.. 1 close reason or the other I would care less.. It's just nice to put the correct banner to OP so they know how to improve.
it only has sense to change if you find a good dupe..
 
@DeveshKumarSingh If you are using the alpha version of the Request Generator, the reason you used to vote to close will be pre-filled as the reason for a cv-pls in the popup dialog.
 
@DeveshKumarSingh in general there is a great confusion on SO about "code attempt". According to me (and a handful of others) code attempt is only required on a debug my code question, code can help to clarify but otherwise some bad code attempt only make the question worse for future users (which is for whom we put effort into SO)
 
3:25 PM
@PetterFriberg Fair points, but I also think of code attempts as an effort from the OP to gain some headway towards solving the problem, from where he/she is lead to the correct answer, and if that's missing, that is a good enough reason for a CV
 
wow Mac you got a really nice answer on "Which SEO questions should be closed as non-programming/non-admin?"
 
now if that cv is called unclear what is being asked, or too broad, is a matter of choice
 
If question is unclear, yes it does not matter much if you close it as too broad... but if you are using too broad because you consider it easy, that OP is lazy, I think you are doing it wrong... basically because we don't care about OP, we care about if useful to others, hence would OP's code attempt be useful to others... or do I just want to tutor him??
but yeah it's an old discussion... and I'm always bickering on this.. basically because I think we are destroying SO with "code attempt", since this encourage useless "Debug this" question instead of general questions as "How can I do this", which according to me are more useful for other users.
 
@Machavity quick move stuff to the graveyard
 
3:36 PM
Good enough for this
 
@PetterFriberg I agree that there is significantly too many "how to" questions being closed, often using the "no MCVE" or "too broad" reasons, because the questions don't show any code. I also agree that code is not required for such questions. However, having some code does often help focus such questions. If it's needed for any specific question is often something that only a SME can say. Unfortunately, many people just jump on any question without code.
 
I maintain that jumping on any question that sounds like a homework dump improves the site quality
 
3:52 PM
Yeah undoubtedly there are two side "even on meta", specially if it get very "Give me codezz", but I also don't think we improve these questions with some lame code attempt.. They just gets worse.. You can always downvote.. it's much simpler then cv, roomba will kill it anyway (and thinking you will stop answers is useless on these, they get FGTIW before you even reach for the cv button).
The issue however is when "Give me codezz" is interesting useful for others... hence it's a perfect SO question
 
I'm not saying that adding a crappy code attempt prevents closure. Most often it just makes it more obvious just how much grounds an answer needs to cover.
 
@TylerH I love that your test account has the Informed badge
 
@SterlingArcher Man, you got me answering JS questions now
 
@StephenKennedy :-)
 
Good!
JS is da wei
 
NoJS is my fav
 
4:14 PM
Go? More like go back to jQuery, and ditch that for vanilla.
 
@SterlingArcher Well, someone want their PHP to JS and I had to tell them not quite...
 
@M-M I see why you were confused now, as evidently I replied to the message directed at Tyler. I wasn't trying to be funny - just welcoming. I should have just pinged rather than reply.
 
@Machavity oh my
my condolences sir
give them the node
 
@TylerH I'm very intrigued by WASM (but nervous about Blazor about MS have yet to get a web framework right at the first attempt)
 
@StephenKennedy I don't know what WASM or Blazor are
 
4:20 PM
Your are not missing much
 
@TylerH WASM is web assembly, an IL for the browser. Blazor is .NET for WASM - i.e. C# in the browser but without plugins and sandboxed in the same way as JS code.
shakes fist at edit window "about MS" = "as MS"
 
4:31 PM
Gaaah, when you stare at a java question for 10 minutes and realize that the constructor was improperly used.
 
I thought that was a Python thing?
Starcraft 2 taught me "you must construct additional pythons"
 
@Compass Be careful. I hear if you stare at Java too long Oracle sues you
 
Zoe
4:43 PM
@Machavity Nah, that's only if you stare at Java SE too long. If you stare at Open Java, it's fine .
But if you stare at closed Java, SOCVR has misplaced some votes onto caffeine
 
M-M
@TylerH lol, noice
@StephenKennedy no worries, I was trying to be funny, sorry if the joke was lame ;)
 
Lame jokes are a requirement to stay in SOCVR
9
it's where I got my legacy from
 
@gunr2171 Yeah, the really long meeting on lame jokes and their importance still sticks out in my mind
 
Just to clarify: poor quality jokes, not jokes about handicapped people
though I'd also accept jokes about the audio codec
 
5:13 PM
\o
 
5:53 PM
^Still lots of OT questions in that tag if anyone would like to filter on it in the queue
 
morning all /o
 
@tink morning? Where is that?
 
@PetterFriberg NZ
 
Aah nice, yeah that's up-side down
 
Heh. Sure is
 
5:59 PM
wait, wut? A green notification for rep loss? +-1?
 
@TylerH Red was deemed unwelcoming
 
I downvoted a spam/rude answer on one of my questions in Arqade and saw that
@Machavity I mean, that's dumb and all, but the bigger issue IMO is the "+-" before the 1
 
You should rant about it on Meta.SE
 
grabs pitchfork
 
6:19 PM
How old does a question have to be to be considered a NATO?
Sorry about asking this again, but I forgot :D
 
@Matthew 30 days IIRC
 
@Machavity Okay thank you
 
@Matthew If you ever make it to 10k there's an actual tool for that
 
@Machavity Tool for what?
 
NATO posts - it's here: stackoverflow.com/tools/new-answers-old-questions (but you won't be able to see the page contents)
 
6:27 PM
NATO actually stands for New Answers To Old questions
NATOQ just sounded silly
 
Who said NATOQ?
 
NATOQ is the full abbreviation of New Answers To Old Questions
but that sounds silly, so it was shortened to NATO, which has the benefit of familiarity internationally (thanks to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization)
 
@TylerH Yea I am being stonewalled by SO again due to my plebian rank...
 
6:44 PM
Except our NATO doesn't have a clandestine policy of encircling Russia :=/
(as far as I know, anyway - you never know with machines)
 
Oh wow these answers are sometimes really detached from reality, having absolutely nothing to do with the question being asked. Do you guys also have similar experiences?
 
@Matthew It's nearly impossible to tell if someone is trolling or they just really have a hard time learning (either spoken languages, programming languages, tools, or Stack Overflow). We need to try to exercise patience as much as possible (especially in this room).
Still keep flagging and deleting, of course :-)
 
@halfer Yea no worries, just wanted to know if you guys keep seeing these crazy answers/questions everywhere. Some of them seem like genuine questions/answers that are completely out of context in which they are posted in.
 
blep
 
6:52 PM
@Compass Holy toast, it's Compass
Do Compass Cats accept boops?
 
Like asking for help because they got hacked by someone online in a generic Java question that is asking about solving a problem with some loops...
It can be infuriating sometimes, but I am doing my best not to flame them :D
 
@Matthew Yep, we see them all the time. People asking new questions in the answer space is pretty normal - I don't understand how they don't understand the difference between a question post and an answer post, but there you are - I don't think they are misunderstanding deliberately
@Matthew Although you have some leeway to make your own judgements, my view is post a patient message or don't post - their response/excuse may well wind you up ;-)
 
@halfer I agree, here I exercised just that.
 
i guess?
 
@Compass That's not sufficiently enthusiastic to warrant boops. Halfer cats take them with impressive gusto
(See avatar for details)
 
7:03 PM
blep
 
ugh, our security team wants to remove VLC player from our environment -_-
y u no let us have nice things, security
 
@TylerH Urgh, bring in your own laptop and a mifi dongle :-)
 
it's annoying, just a snowballing problem
first it was they didn't like NotePad++
then we all moved to one web filter instead of a more permissive one for IT
then this morning I come in to findout Firefox is just missing from my computer
turns out they pushed out a patch at midnight last night to uninstall Firefox and reinstall 67.0.3 to fix the 0-day JavaScript exploit that 67.0.3 fixes
except it didn't install properly on my machine
now they want to remove VLC player
 
@TylerH Urgh, admin permissions for all devs!
 
\o Hello all
 
7:14 PM
CLIPPY HAS COME TO CLAIM OUR DOCUMENTS Hello K
 
Already Claimed
 
Small print: Clippy is an AI, so the privacy policy does not apply to him/her/it
He/she/it is reading your hilarious CV/documents/stuff right now
 
@halfer we have local admin rights but some stuff gets overridden by group policy
 
@TylerH Grumble grumble new job grumble grumble
 
ahh the joys of working with enterprise IT. I so do not miss those days.
 
7:19 PM
Room question: does this question have too many links/off-site images for an MCVE?
 
@Nkosi Just don't ask about security
 
@Machavity the music theme played in my head as soon as I saw it
Unless that was taped to the door to the bathroom
which would make it even funnier. lol
 
Probably the server room
 
makes sense
 
There are times you need a wooden sword in the server room. Accounting just won't approve the request
 
7:36 PM
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I would recommend giving OP an opportunity to post an attempt before asking here to have the question closed
1 minute (without a comment, even) isn't giving OP a lot of opportunity
 
@TylerH Appears they've had 13 minutes per the first comment to me.
I am pretty much exclusive in this tag. People asking questions about VBA is not like someone who asks a question about java or C+. I can pretty much tell when they don't have any knowledge in VBA, and is asking us to write code from scratch for them.
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs 13 minutes isn't a long time, either.
As for mind-reading, best we don't try to use that as a reason here
 
@TylerH I'd expect the same rules to be followed by all here then.
15 minute minimum time before placing a CV req if that's what you want. Or do you want an hour?
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I haven't referenced any hard and fast rules. Note that not only have I not removed your cv-pls, but I also used the wording "I would recommend", not "you must"
I don't think it's in good faith to post a cv-pls for that question 1 minute after it was posted, given the cv-pls would be invalid if OP edits in an MCVE/MRE/min-reprex. Especially considering no comment was left (at the time) providing guidance on how to improve the question. That is all.
 
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Q: Getting rid of this tag will take [collaboration]

EJoshuaSThe collaboration tag has 473 questions. It has the following tag description: Collaboration is combining the effort of people in real-time to get things done, either by working side-by-side or through tools such as web conferencing, instant messaging, IRC, etc. Clearly, this has nothing w...

 
10:31 PM
What's an Android BSP?
 
@StephenKennedy BSP appears to be "board support package".
 
Yes, "Android BSP" has Google hits which "BSP" alone doesn't. I'm not sure that's question is asking for legal advice as such, more "where do I put the licence file?".
I'll vote TB
 
@StephenKennedy I'm unsure if it's opinion based, or if there's a predefined appropriate location. It could also be considered a licensing issue, as it might include legal requirements from the license. TB also works.
I'd vote, but I'm OOCV.
 
@Makyen I was going to reply with a selective quote (I hadn't considered "or if there's a predefined appropriate location") but decided not to... went back to work, and pasted your wise words into Visual Studio instead of the filename I thought I had in the clipboard :)
<- not a great multitasker
 
10:48 PM
@StephenKennedy :-) (and thanks) :-)
 
 
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