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1:38 AM
@FrankerZ Programmatically determining if a post is vandalized is easy, but programmatically determining which revisiom to revert to could be difficult in many cases.
Another thing is, I don't know how to rollback a post with SE API. It would have been easier to program if there were an API endpoint.
 
2:40 AM
^ NAA
 
Someone put a bounty on a "I have a segmentation fault, how to solve" question without including any code whatsoever... Segmentation fault: 11 Xcode 10 and IOS 12 how to solve. And now we can't vote to close as duplicate or off-topic for the next five days.
 
@Cœur If you feel a question with a bounty should be closed, then raise a custom mod-flag and explain the issue.
 
@Makyen OK
 
@Cœur They put a bounty on a debugging question from September????? That's a really long time to leave a problem like that.
 
@Makyen maybe trying to transfer the points to a different account, ah ah? I mean, who could have upvoted such bad question?
 
3:53 AM
@Cœur I don't know. The question's been handled by a moderator.
 
 
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5:37 AM
 
6:23 AM
 
6:45 AM
what to do about this? It's and not much else, but seems vaguely useful stackoverflow.com/questions/54659462/…
 
 
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This request is now also off-site resource, OP clarified in comments
 
8:48 AM
@JarrodRoberson \o/ welcome back
 
Gone in less than 20 seconds. Impressive.
 
Woa, RuneScape3 came out?!? I've played 2 a little too much...
 
@MichaelDodd mods are snipping flags ;)
 
@PetterFriberg grmbl, mods doing their jobs, thus keeping us from increasing our helpful flag count... I think we should have an election to decrease the number of mods. We want our flags back!
 
lol, it's most impressive on NAA flags, it take like 2 minutes and the post is gone... no job for the LQP review queue either (btw in these last days it have been BR's and Cody's fault) you can make an official complaint that they are to efficient. :D
:), that's like within less then a minute... so you need to be very quick...
 
9:07 AM
I think the university here did not pay me to move abroad to monitor Stack Overflow, therefor I'm afraid I'll just have to see my flag count go down.
 
Well I don't think you will get some swag when you arrive at 5.000... nor 10.000 nor 100.000 so...
@Adriaan go quick stackoverflow.com/a/54666332/5292302 now!!!! :D
 
@PetterFriberg \o/
 
\o/ you made it just in time... stackoverflow.com/posts/54666332/timeline :D, well that's are fun for today, I better go back to work...
 
How to close this? Basically the answer is "Floating point math and different implementations, MATLAB's being closed source even"
 
9:26 AM
Don't close it since you can theoretically answer what you put in comment.
 
@PetterFriberg no, because "we can't tell you" is not an answer, right?
 
@Adriaan why not?, that they have different implementations and the differenze is most probably from floating point math is a start of an answer, interesting is if there is any solution... if the only solution is to accept the error, then that's the answer. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/149429/…
 
@Adriaan "Make Flags Great Again!" or something? :p
 
Too me "there is no answer" is an answer, maybe hard to prove, but if you objectively can then it's an important answer.
 
yeah... "you can't do that" or "that's not possible" etc... can be answers... it's just nice if they have a "because..." with 'em
 
9:35 AM
@PetterFriberg thing is: there is an answer, but only MATLAB employees can find it, that's why I usually liken these kind of questions to customer support. Anyway, I fleshed my comment a bit and made it an answer.
 
as long as a MATLAB employee does not show us the source code we have to live with your answer :), and we can't expect them to do, hence why I feel your answer is valid and then question also
 
9:58 AM
@SmokeDetector Bad question but not enough for spam IMO
 
o/
 
\o
 
10:40 AM
Not sure why someone would think Java was less popular now, it's been in use by 3 billion applications for as long as I can remember
 
10:59 AM
^ That last SD report reminds me of Mark E Smith's warbling at the beginning of The Birmingham School of Business School
 
@MichaelDodd that was a clear no MCVE imho
anyone familiar with excel, is my quesiton clear enough? stackoverflow.com/questions/54666441/…
 
@Luuklag But for questions there's only TP (spam/abusive) or FP (not spam/abusive). There's no "bad question" option in between, unlike the feedback NAA option for answers
 
yeah that's right, forgot about that. Been too long since I was here last time ;)
 
11:16 AM
@Luuklag That violates rule 15 of the room: "Do not request action on posts or edits where you are involved ... You are "involved" in the question and all answers to the question if you are the author of the question"
 
@Luuklag you probably made a mistake in the link there, as there's no android involved there (@NickA)
 
:45339376 Yes, you can initiate discussion, you can't just make a request to close
 
Yeah I did, Meant to link the post that came from SD. Which got later called by @MichaelDodd here: :45339277
 
@Luuklag Well that makes a whole lot more sense :P
 
@NickA, first thought you mentioned :45339250
@Makyen, could you remove chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/45339242#45339242. It pasted the wrong link.
 
11:22 AM
@Luuklag If you mouse over my message it should highlight what I was replying to :)
 
Yeah I know, just forgot to check
 
But that excel is beyond my extensive knowledge of SUM and AVERAGE so I'm of no help :P
 
@NickA my knowledge of that Microsoft piece of rubbish is that I wouldn't want to poke it with a 2 metre stick
 
 
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12:29 PM
@SurajRao I'm not sure about that, if you strip out the non-english does it not still constitute a (bad) answer
 
Non-English goes as VLQ
 
@Adriaan Whatttt, but I made a claim on meta the other day that VLQ is useless because it doesn't apply to anything :P
 
Its a wierd edit too.. Missed the language completely
 
12:47 PM
seems to be full of general computing
 
12:59 PM
Added a second question in an edit to his question when he got an answer that answered his original question.
 
@IslamElshobokshy just roll back the edit, leave a comment to the OP to ask a new question
 
I'll keep that in mind for next time @Adriaan
 
2 characters left in my comment, nice
 
xD
I'll delete my comment yours is better
 
@IslamElshobokshy pro tip: use links to the relevant help centre pages ;)
 
1:04 PM
yea I know, I was just too lazy xD
 
^^needs one more vote
 
make that 3, that is now 2
 
@PetterFriberg showed up as 4 people choosing that target when I was reviewing; I guess that also includes RC flaggers
@gparyani Can an RO please move that message to /dev/null?
 
yeah that's the flaggers it has 3 cv now.
@tripleee just caught your comment on that one... too many dead :)
 
1:43 PM
@PetterFriberg it's a duplicate now, it would be nice if the last close vote could be a dupe nomination
 
it's closed..
 
oh too late
 
we can reopen and dupe, but it will be hard since most of you have voted already...
 
nah, just leave it
 
yeah seems like it will roomba.
 
1:46 PM
10 days according to the userscript
 
seems correct the 9 day rule (1 day to run script) "RemoveAbandonedClosed"
 
Morning
 
o/
 
1:55 PM
\o
 
o/
 
Morning
 
user8682794
2:21 PM
@tripleee please cool it a bit. too many requests in the last day.
 
@IslamElshobokshy The fact they've said the name of the library by name suggests to me it's not NAA, but i wouldn't call it a good answer
And there seems to be no affiliation
 
meh okay
 
@IslamElshobokshy Yeah. Alternative suggestions are counted as answers. It's not very good, since it doesn't show how to use them, but that's what down votes are for.
 
2:34 PM
yeah I contented myself to downvoting
 
@NathanOliver Or maybe a 20k delete vote. If you're into that sort of thing. just saying...
 
;o I just had a VLQ flag marked helpful
 
@Machavity I'm not sure it satisfies The answer is extremely low quality: There is little to no scope for improvement or The answer doesn't attempt to answer the question; it may be a comment or a separate question altogether. manual delete requirements.
 
@NickA Deleted or edited? Edits mark VLQ helpful but not NAA
 
@MichaelDodd Deleted
Should've specified :P
 
2:42 PM
Hi, i don't have my Template nor addon on this computer but can we:
Close "no reproduction mistake from OP" [c#] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54670055/json-in-ssis-not-set-to-instance
 
@xdtTransform No need for a template or addon or script or anything, you format tags with [tag:<tagtext>] so close is [tag:cv-pls] and C# is [tag:c#]
You can find that in the formatting sections of the FAQ
 
You really want that script though
 
:45341571, I always forgot the format so I made a Template, I browse Sovcr link in the chat description to find the faq.
 
@JohnDvorak Some people don't have the liberty of scripts :P
 
Just Tablette without keyboard
 
2:51 PM
I'm finding it hard to imagine what a female version of a tablet computer would look like
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@xdtTransform You can manually make a request using [tag:cv-pls] <reason> <link>
 
I will as soon as I get to a keyboard, those special char are hard on tablette.
 
3:20 PM
^ thoughts on that first one? Doesn't quite meet the spam threshold for me, more like undisclosed website
 
@MichaelDodd I think the fact that the site is clearly an attempt to trick people into thinking they're microsoft support pushes it into the spam area for me
If it genuinely is MS support I'll eat my hat
 
@NickA I agree with you completely on that point, the name is slightly deceptive. Still don't feel confident enough to red flag yet though, let's see how the general direction goes...
 
How can this question be reopened? It is closed but I fixed ithttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/54470617/use-javascript-buttons-to-show-a-‌​div
 
@MichaelDodd Sure, I'll let you know result of it
 
@MichaelDodd I red flagged. Clicked to the site and it has a live support chat with "support"
 
3:23 PM
waffles
 
@Machavity Braver than I am, I just made an educated guess :P
 
red flagged too
 
Zoe
There was a moderation question related to that
 
@Zoe ah sorry didn't see the first part
 
3:24 PM
@JerryDiPasquale Put a space between the text and the link so it hyperlinks
 
@Zoe Sure but that just means they tried to link it twice in quick succession :P
 
@Machavity Looks like it's going towards deletion so I've added a flag as well
 
@Machavity was that sd k meant for MS Support or the non English post?
 
@StephenKennedy Bleh. Wrong one
 
3:28 PM
Ok here
How can this question be reopened after fixing it? stackoverflow.com/questions/54470617/…
 
@JerryDiPasquale I'm not sure if a formal request is allowed here, but I've cast a reopen vote
 
@MichaelDodd They can't make one, but they can open discussion and one of us can
 
@MichaelDodd You can request it if you feel it warrants. He can't because of Rule 15
 
@Machavity what is rule 15?
 
3:33 PM
@JerryDiPasquale Rule 15
 
@JerryDiPasquale You can't make a request on a post that you have a stake in (either question asker or answerer)
 
Okay got it
 
I won't be voting to re-open, IMO the question boils down to "How to hide a div on page load", which is asked in several places such as this one
 
@NickA If you think it's a dupe feel free to CV it as such. But the MCVE closure was no longer valid
 
3:52 PM
Worth mod-flagging the user suggesting the edit? That's twice now they've tried to re-introduce the f-bomb
n/,m might be a conflict issue like @zoe mentioned
 
@MichaelDodd No. I think they just fixed the code on the original version and left the bad word. OP overrode our rejection
 
@Machavity Can I cast a re-open vote followed by a close vote?
 
review-pls again on the same question
 
@Machavity There was a second attempt to re-introduce it, but got swiftly ninja'd out
 
@NickA Yep. You just can't cast more than one sustained CV on a given Q
 
3:56 PM
@Machavity Ah alright, I was thinking I couldn't vote to reclose after voting to open
 
@NickA You get one reopen vote and one close vote per Q. You can get another close vote on a Q if the original ages away, not sure if that is the same with reopen votes (I don't know if they even age away)
 
@MichaelDodd Edit #1 was rejected (our edits conflicted). Edit #2 we rejected and OP accepted. Edit #3 didn't have the bad word
 
@Machavity Possible it got introduced then brought back out within grace period on attempt 3? Unless my eyes are starting to play tricks on me (thank goodness I have next 2 days off)
 
@MichaelDodd Timeline is your friend here
 
@Machavity yeah, I saw. Ah well, I'll just blame caching
 
4:03 PM
@Zoe it's not just the stray ; - he has his conditions wrong (should be < 16 and >= 16). But no way am I helping him.
 
Zoe
meh, that's just what I saw which would make it worth closing as a typo. Not really that important though
Still really weird code >.>
 
16 is the age of consent. he evidently fancies himself as a lothario.
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
4:20 PM
;o, I've been on SO for 5 years as of last monday
 
Woot
 
W00t
darn, our nice w00t train now broke down
 
4:42 PM
@kayess Well, you tried to run a woot train with zeroes
 
@PearlySpencer any guidance as to how much is too much, or how to prioritize the off-topic stuff I see? should I abstain from reporting here when I see content which should be closed?
 
@tripleee I think the guidance is you should flag about 4x as many as you report, so 10 a day? I think
 
I don't think this belongs in Smokey, but would appreciate others looking at this answer and seeing if you think it needs a red flag
 
@Machavity R/A perhaps
Apparently we thought it did
@tripleee Yeah here, 10 a day average is "maximum which is possibly maintainable"
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@tripleee We do ask for a 4:1 ratio of votes to CVs (since every CV implicitly needs 4 more voters). We also ask for it to not be a habit
 
4:57 PM
thanks for clarifications
 
np, it appears to be easy to run away sometimes :P
 
user8682794
@tripleee it is also common sense courtesy to other regulars. flooding the room with too many requests prevents questions in other tags to be closed in a reasonable time frame.
 
I don't even bother looking at questions with last activity older than 30 seconds
 
@JohnDvorak That'd be unfortunate for me, I don't even click links within 30s, I'd never VtC anything ;p
 
5:06 PM
The trick is to ignore what this room says and just dump the realtime feed here
 
[tag:cv-pls] https://stackoverflow.com/questions
 
[tag:cv-pls] https://stackoverflow.com/users/3270037/nick-a?tab=questions
 
D:
 
no longer needed stackoverflow.com
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That would be targeting a user
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5:10 PM
If you really want to target a user you just go for them [tag:del-pls] https://stackoverflow.com/users/397817/stephen-kennedy
 
touche
 
Would it be inappropriate to raise an for a politician I disagree with?
 
@RobertColumbia yes
 
Here, yes. In Tavern, go for it dawg.
 
@RobertColumbia You can't impeach rene. He's been been made our lifelong honorable leader
 
5:11 PM
Oh I suppose a is also out of the question then
 
@Machavity I think he meant The Annoying Orange
 
"I'm taking over the government!", Tom cooed.
 
nice try, rebecca black
 
Zoe
Dammit xd
 
5:13 PM
(OK, this time I'll stop)
 
Any ideas about that? I think request off-site resource.
 
@NickA conspiracy to first degree murder and treason. It's as illegal as the act you're conspiring to.
 
us internet veterans recognize that w4w string anywhere
@double-beep already closed
 
@double-beep I agree, but easily also unclear or too broad.
 
@TylerH ...after posted.
 
Zoe
5:14 PM
 
@JohnDvorak I know what he meant, but we have a room for such things
 
@double-beep I'm not criticizing you, just commenting (and it was in the same exact minute)
 
5:35 PM
can not or cannot
for an error message saying "can( )not be null"
 
Quick question: I have a question which is closed as "onhold", but I found a duplicate. Is there a way to still mark it as a duplicate? Currently I just marked it in a comment.
 
@NickA if it must not be null, then use cannot
 
@TylerH It indeed must not
Look at me, I'm actually doing work :D
 
if it may be something other than null, you would say may be null, but is not required. You would not want to say 'can not' to mean that as it is confusing
 
@TylerH ah yes, because then I'm saying it is able to not be null, of course
rather than saying it has to be not null
 
5:38 PM
indeed
 
@kvantour Sorry kvantour, didn't even answer your question, it should just be left closed and a comment put pointing to the duplicate, the alternative would be to re-open and reclose but that's a lot of votes
IMHO
 
5:51 PM
I delete voted, one more required
gone
 
@NickA Thanks for the information.
@tripleee indeed, gone with the wind.
 
@NickA There are several explanations here. The general consensus is "cannot". Personally, I'd choose to use "can not" (with italics), if I was wanting to strongly emphasized that it's something that can not be done. Alternately, I might use "can not", if I was making a distinction between what can't happen and what may not happen (i.e. physically can't vs. permission or probability). For an error message, "cannot" or "must not".
OTOH, I might use "can not", as that feels a bit more formal (i.e. "cannot" is a contraction of "can not", but it's been so commonly used such that it's become it's own word, that's commonly used in, at least, semi-formal writing).
 
6:07 PM
@Makyen (But then it's also "its" in the context pf "its own word" :p Crazy English rules :D)
 
@MatthieuBrucher Yeah, I mess that one up quite a bit. While I'm quite familiar with the rule, my fingers don't usually type it that way. :-) I almost always type it as "it's" and have to remember to go back and edit it to the correct form. Obviously, I fail to do so on a regular basis. :-;
 
@Makyen Haha me too :p
 
6:30 PM
@Makyen It was the feeling of informality that was pushing me towards "can not", I did go with "cannot" in the end
 
@double-beep Can't be deleted until it reaches -3 or 2 days. Needs to be within one vote first
Also it will Roomba in 9 days
 
 
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Hiya \o
 
o/
 
Had left 533 days ago, and now back ... \o/
 
Welcome back
 
8:30 PM
\o @nathan ...
 
o/
Wanted to see how y'all are doing ...
No sight of tuna, kyll, gunr, sam ... :(
 
gunr has <s>retired</s> taken leave of absence from SE
 
nope. gunr got busy so he is taking a hiatus.
 
All 4 are, right?
 
8:32 PM
Yeah
 
Let's hope they come back some day ...
Heh. I realized that you guys are still using "NATO" in the cv-pls reqs
 
@BhargavRao Yep. It's even automatically added (by the alpha version of the request generator) if someone is making a request from the NATO page. There's also a quick-substitution, N, when creating a request. :-)
 
8:49 PM
Wow, that's awesome, thanks!
But is anyone using that? I don't think anyone else was using it apart from me.. :\
 
user8682794
@Makyen do you have any plans to make the the cv-pls generator also work for del-pls requests?
 
@PearlySpencer Yes. The alpha version already does. It works for all the types of requests which we have in here and on questions, answers, and suggested edits. However, it doesn't, yet, work with Greasemonkey 4 on Firefox, which is the primary reason it's considered "alpha" instead of "beta".
 
Does it work on the real browser, though?
 
user8682794
@Makyen I am using Tampermonkey and have version 1.6.3 installed but does not seem to support it?
 
user8682794
@Makyen It only appears to support cv-pls and reopen-pls requests unless I am missing something?
 
8:56 PM
@BhargavRao It works, to the best of my knowledge (and somewhat limited testing), in all other combinations of browser and userscript manager, other than GM4 on Firefox. It doesn't work in GM4 because GM4 made multiple breaking changes.
@PearlySpencer The alpha version is currently version 1.8.5.0. Version 1.6.3 is the released version. Are you saying that you're unable to run the alpha version in Tampermonkey, or that the released version doesn't support del-pls? If you're having a problem running the alpha version, I definitely want to know more about it, so I can fix it. The released version doesn't make any attempt to support del-pls.
 
user8682794
@Makyen ah okay, no i am using the released version.
 
user8682794
@Makyen I guess it will be awhile until it makes it in the released version?
 
@PearlySpencer Yeah, it will probably be a while. The main stumbling block is supporting GM4. It's not that hard, it just takes time to determine all of the paths that need to be rewritten, rewrite them, and test. It's in-process.
 
user8682794
Does anyone know why there is no delete review queue?
 
user8682794
@Makyen that's cool, i was just curious.
 
Zoe
9:08 PM
@PearlySpencer there's at least the tools
Shows recent delete votes. It's not a queue though
 
Hi all, I just flagged this comment stackoverflow.com/questions/54678659/… as abuse by mistake, but I don't find a way to retract the flag. Any ideas?
 
user8682794
@Zoe hey, thanks for that. It strikes me as odd that there isn't one for delete and undelete votes.
 
Zoe
@Vickel You can't retract comment flags AFAIK.
@PearlySpencer meh, they're a separate type of votes though. Very limited audience, and very few per day
So I'm guessing showing a list is enough for review
 
@Zoe well, it happened, thought the guy got crazy :) after the click I read the whole thing again and wouldn't flag it as abusive
 
user8682794
@Zoe they are 50+ which puts it in the same with reopen votes
 
9:15 PM
@Vickel As mentioned, comment flags can't be retracted. There isn't a methodology to do so. There doesn't appear to be a SE-private route for doing so. The SE API doesn't even have a endpoint that allows you to retract question/answer flags, let alone comment flags.
 
@Makyen comment was deleted in the meantime and flag was considered helpful, thanks for pointing out that there is no flag retraction on comments, didn't know, will be more careful
 
The issue with deletion is, once a post is deleted, it is hard for normal users to recover.
Heck, even post owners can't notice if their post is silently deleted
You can argue that LQPQ also serves as a deletion queue for VLQPs.
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao for users with a large number of posts that's true yes
 
But that is a "Recommend Deletion" system. The post owners can still undelete.
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao Post owners can always flag for moderation attention. A queue would make sense given that the question must be closed first.
 
9:22 PM
There was a 10k review queue, but that was shutdown because it became useless.
If there was a delete queue, I'd rather keep the answers outta it, and restrict it to questions.
True, post owners can flag for mod attention, but how will they discover that the post is deleted in the first place?
 
\o @Bhargav good to se e you again
 
o/ pink-E ... howyadoin?
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao I do not think that there will ever be one anyway. SE has abandoned feature development.
 
Really?
Custom Question Lists
Ask A Question Wizard
New Flag types
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao if they notice. there is no notification that a question is closed. why should there be one for deletion?
 
9:24 PM
@BhargavRao struggling; I moved to a country which has non-flat land. Cycling to work is a hassle now o.0
 
It is slow, that doesn't mean it is dead
Remember that SE isn't some giant like Google with tens of thousands of devs working 24/7
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao sorry but these are trivial features which quite frankly is embarrassing for taking them so long to implement.
 
It is a small company with a dedicated workforce
@PearlySpencer They can see a closed post on their activity tab
They can't see a deleted post
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao that could be changed i guess if there was a queue.
 
@Adriaan Hehe, I stay some 2kms away. I can walk easily
There we are. Adding a delete queue isn't trivial
There are lots of intricacies involved
 
9:27 PM
@BhargavRao It's a lousy 3.3 on foot, but 4.8 on cycle. Bloody mountains. I which there were meadows everywhere.
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao i did not say i t is. but the features you mentioned are.
 
The 10k tools work properly, we need more people to use it
 
that ^
 
A couple of years back, there were just a handful of users who knew the existence of the NATO page.
The tools page is now posted on the top bar, which is how more users have started to visit that page.
@Adriaan 3.3kms isn't that hard. Should prolly take 45~50 mins.. Have you tried jogging? (given that you leave your laptops at work)
 
@BhargavRao hum, I'm Dutch. I brought my bike on the 900km train ride. I'll cycle, thank you :P
 
9:30 PM
@BhargavRao or maybe reduce the rep limit, if users are actively moderating...
 
@PearlySpencer but "abandoned feature development" is different. They certainly are working. Also remember that maintenance is another duty.
 
@BhargavRao good to have you back chap. Keep up the good work! Off to bed now
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao this is a good first step but i found these tools to feel incomplete and/or unpolished.
 
Reducing the rep limit isn't a good idea. There already are a lot of users who have crossed 10k limit. We need users to feel motivated to moderate.
The issue is on the users' end, not SE's
@Adriaan Gunnite!
 
@BhargavRao I understand that, but maybe there is another way to measure it than rep
 
9:32 PM
I prolly will be back to being a regular soon.
@Vickel I can agree with that. There certainly are few users who have shown immense potential to identify the right posts to close
 
user8682794
@Vickel Good luck with that.
 
But Reputation is an easy way to quantify. When Jeff first designed the system, he probably didn't know that it would come till here.
 
@PearlySpencer was about to mention something like that...
@BhargavRao I have seen users having +-10k rep and still don't even know how to ask a question (seen yesteday on the css tag)
 
I've seen users with 100k rep create sockpuppets
 
maybe because they got bored?
 
9:37 PM
Reputation is a bad measure of moderation ability
 
@BhargavRao better say "Welterusten" to @Adriaan ....
 
But unfortunately, there is no other measure which is better
 
@BhargavRao I agree
 
Welterusten @Adriaan ...
I dunno if that is a cuss word, blame rene
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao moderation badges could be taken into account. the site should not be only about reputation.
 
9:39 PM
@BhargavRao good night
 
Yeah, they use some of the badges for the mod elections
But the issue with a few of them, like Steward, is that they can be easily "gamified"
(dunno the technical term for that)
People just do bad reviews and stop at 1000. Yay, got a badge.
 
Whereas it is hard to earn reputation in a wrong way
 
@BhargavRao Hey, don't judge me. Triage was a pain...
 
9:41 PM
And if they do, it is easier to catch.
Triage is a pain? Laughs in HnI
H&I is fundamentally flawed
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao the reason why people stop reviewing after they reach the threshold is because by that time they have enough experience and they focus more on moderating the tags they are interested in.
 
> I heard you like review queues, so we put a new review queue so that you can review what goes into review queues.
Yeah, which raises the next question. What about stuff like [stata] where there are just 1 or 2 who focus on those tags
That reminds me... copying over from the Trogdor room.
If any one is free, there's 19 questions in related to 4 different AMP full forms, each of which probably needs its own tag. They need to be disambiguated. Should be a max 10 minute job. (I'd prefer you leave the questions with the original AMP tagged with ).
 
I see 13 questions
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao not sure i follow? what do you mean?
 
You mentioned about people stopping at the threshold to just moderate tags which they like
 
user8682794
9:46 PM
@Machavity i have no plans for being a mod candidate!
 
@PearlySpencer Pearly for mod, 2020. Mod all the things
 
There are stuff like [stata] which needs more people. If most of the users go to their tags, who'll help you out?
 
Getting a badge in H&I is suspicious. My score is 2.
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao i found i am more effective in moderation when i focus on things i know about
 
I have a whopping 8 reviews in help and improvement.
Before I realized it was a cesspool of Skip, Skip, Skip, before I just tired and gave up
2
 
9:48 PM
@FrankerZ wow, someone has sniped 6.
Thanks for that
 
I can go for 10, but I believe I may have a brain aneurysm before that happens
 
user8682794
@FrankerZ i guess for H&I most of the time you can only edit out really obvious stuff.
 
user8682794
@FrankerZ like thank you, spelling errors etc. But yes it is pointless. I used to review regularly when i first started on SO until i realized that most posts there are deleted anyway.
 
@PearlySpencer which is why we need more people from every tag involved actively in moderation.
 
user8682794
waste of time
 
9:50 PM
8 reviews: that should give you gold!
 
dinner time, bye all
 
user8682794
@Vickel bye
 
Cya
Bon apetit
 
muito obrigado
 
user8682794
9:55 PM
@BhargavRao perhaps but for my tag me and three other regulars can moderate it well in most aspects, close and reopen votes, deletion, low quality answers etc
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao if the tag has 2-3 regulars it is not impossible
 
user8682794
@BhargavRao mind you SOCVR is essential for smaller tags.
 
This whole conversation was to sell SOCVR
@rene now pay me my ad money
 
$0.0012 has been deposited into your bank account
 
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