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1:45 AM
With a code dump accepted answer, I must add
 
Rob
2:08 AM
@TylerH Congrats on your second gold css badge ;)
3
 
goes and downvotes a CSS answer, so @TylerH can get a third gold CSS badge.
 
@Rob thanks :-)
@Makyen ha, ha...
 
Well, we could see how many you can get. downvote…un-downvote…downvote…un-downvote…downvote…un-downvote… :-)
 
At some point I hope some CM takes pity on me and bans you all to the depths of the Help and Improvement queue...
@Enzokie this has a pending edit that just adds some tags to it...
PS @Makyen what is the link to your WIP unclosed request script again?
 
@TylerH Ahhhg… dang… not that… That's a special level of hell. That's just too much. I guess I'm going to have to stop.
 
2:21 AM
I'm on my laptop and don't have the script here yet
:-(
 
@TylerH Here's the link to the message with both the GitHub and install links. This message has more detail as to what it does.
@TylerH Congrats! (again :-) )
@Yam Not close to a MCVE. Just shows the <link> elements for the site. Still a "go to my site and tell me how to fix it" question.
 
@TylerH too late :(
 
2:37 AM
@Makyen Cheers
 
2:49 AM
@feelingunwelcome Re-reading this request, particularly given you've linked a comment on an answer (which you've called terrible), it's unclear if you're requesting the question or answer be deleted. I'm going to move this request to the Sanitarium, because it's not clear what you're requesting. While I've stated disagreement with deleting the question, moving this request out is intended to be independent of that disagreement. You are free to re-request, making it clear which post you want deleted.
 
user177800
3:21 AM
@Makyen no worries, I was talking about the incorrect answer. I should have been more clear and maybe tagged it java or something to draw expert attention to it.
 
user177800
@Makyen I think it was viewed so many times because of the title and most people probably came way disapointed because the title has nothing to do with the actual problem. I edited the title to make it more accurate about what the question is really about.
 
user177800
@Makyen I was debugging an ExtJS app I am writing when I made that first request. :-) While it was compiling. I was a bit distracted. :-)
 
3:42 AM
@feelingunwelcome np. Thanks for clarifying. We all get distracted from time to time. Sorry if I jumped the gun wrt. objecting to the question being deleted. As to the answer, I don't have the domain knowledge needed to have an opinion of my own on it. Thus, I'm limited to being generally in favor of deleting the answer, based on my trust of your evaluation (not that I can really do anything with <20k rep :-) ).
 
user177800
4:16 AM
@Yam yeah, someone edited the code block and nothing else ... ignore this one or vote to delete your call.
 
5:16 AM
:43212394 This del-pls request is invalid because the question is open. This question has 1,781,708 views. IMO, you need a darn good reason for it to be considered for deletion.
 
@Makyen Which request are you referring to?
 
@JimGarrison Sorry, I forgot that editing would loose the reply back-link once I moved the message out of the room.
 
You are correct, I copy/pasted the wrong URL (sorry about that). What is the protocol for notifying a room owner?
Ah, I see you already took care of it, thanks.
If it's possible, please delete that request completely.
 
@JimGarrison np. Just ping any (one or more) of us. I'd suggest pinging the RO that's been active most recently. You can find who's been active by looking at the info page (link is under the room tags in the right-sidebar). The ROs are listed on the left of that page with the most recently active at the top of the list.
 
Got it. Will do. I'll endeavor to be more careful
 
5:24 AM
@JimGarrison Unfortunately, only moderators can delete or edit chat posts after 2 minutes. ROs only have the ability to move the post out of the room.
 
Good to know.
 
@JimGarrison np. We all make mistakes, I was just really surprised when I went to the question and saw what it was. :-)
 
6:11 AM
morning
 
^ invalid json
 
7:47 AM
Morning
 
afternoon @AndréKool
 
 
8:54 AM
Morning \o
 
morning all \o
 
morning
 
Spam ^
 
Ron
9:15 AM
Hello caretakers. How are you all feeling on this glorious Wednesday morning / noon / afternoon?
 
afternoon
 
 
1 hour later…
10:30 AM
@rene can we get the domain listed in this post added to SD please?
 
@rene thank you
@rene oh... surprised you don't have privs for that...
 
@JonClements no, I've never contributed to the code base (no Python here) and wasn't planning on doing so. That has the setback that I can't push directly.
 
Ahh... out of curiosity who does have code privs? (is it hard coded in the bot?)
 
Hi Guys, Hows it going?
 
10:44 AM
a lot better now the office has fans
 
@JonClements I think everyone mentioned here but I'm not sure if there is a second list maintained in the bot.
 
Okay... thanks
 
Ron
11:08 AM
Design patterns vs. static polymorphism in C++. The battle ensues.
</talkingtomyself>
 
thats XML syntax error
 
@rene Blacklisting and watchlisting privileges are available even to users who don't write python
source: I have them and I don't write python
 
@JonClements They have a few levels of privileges, which aren't directly associated with actual GitHub write access. GitHub write access is available to this group. I'm not sure of the intersection with the repository role:owner list which @rene linked. Mostly, I didn't think some of the people listed there were owners and filtering on role:owner doesn't actually filter anyone out.
 
pretty sure you could get them if you asked in charcoal hq
 
@JonClements If you're asking who, in addition to those people, can tell SmokeDetector to add a domain/keyword to the watchlist or blacklists, then that is the SmokeDetector code-admin Role. You can get that list by running the !!/whois code_admin command. The most recent time I've seen that run is here, which has the list of code-admins just below it.
@Makyen (@JonClements) Ahhh... The role:owner issue was my fault. I was looking at it in a browser profile that wasn't logged into GitHub, and the filtering didn't do anything. If you're logged in, the role:owner filter produces the list of users I'd expect.
 
11:23 AM
@Makyen okay... I'm not going to play with it, but I take it a mod diamond gives you access to some stuff (registered user w/ some perks), but not (code) admin stuff?
 
That's about right
As diamond on SO or SE proper, you get the normal command privileges right off the bat
But not more iirc
 
@JonClements ^ that, to the best of my knowledge.
 
okay... cos I know some bots accept "die" from a mod and I'd consider that a fairly high level command.
(but then - it simply stops it - it doesn't alter its operation)
 
@JonClements the stopflagging or reboot commands are available to normal privilege holders, iirc
 
Umm... I'd consider reboot different from "die" though...
 
11:27 AM
Stopping the bot and blocking the bot from specific reports for timeframes is also available to just privileged users
 
@JonClements You could shut down all the SmokeDetector instances, I believe. As mentioned, you can certainly cause metasmoketo completely stop autoflagging.
 
So something like die is also available in stappit
 
i.e. shutdown, not just reboot.
 
oh my gawd... there's a wall full of documentation... I'm not going to read that! :p
 
11:30 AM
But then you won't get these scooby snacks rattles with the box
 
@Magisch do you really want to make me cry? :*(
 
@JonClements I find that list easier to read here.
 
@Makyen thanks
 
np. I'm not a fan of much of how the information is presented on a few pages of the charcoal-se.org/smokey site.
 
@Paulie_D Duplicate of what?
 
11:40 AM
@JonClements Can I talk to you quick - some 2 mins? :)
Help needed in identifying something.
 
@Praveen gimme 10 mins and then sure
 
@JonClements Done! Thanks... :)
Guys!!! Wrote this today... Something that might help the devs out here... :D My Personal Development Environment
It's a work of three months... :)
 
Good job writing three months work in a single day :D
 
LoL. Was compiling it line by line for three months... :P
Like, today one line. Yesterday, no lines. Day before yesterday 2 lines...
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman you forgot your most basic tool from your environment... Stack Overflow that is : D
 
11:47 AM
@kayess *facepalm*
Will add it now...
Thanks.
Hey, wait... It's not a tool, right? I mean, for setting up development environment?
 
@Praveen wassup?
2 messages deleted
 
@JonClements very sneaky
 
LoL. Ha ha. Why was that for?
 
'cos the cactus teased me with scooby snacks and made me cry :(
 
I'm very prickly and thorny like that
 
11:59 AM
yeah.... I miss that happy hat wearing dude... :)
 
@JonClements 😔
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Starting to get a bit concerned that they're starting to push the self-promotion line, that's 3 answers in a row pointing to their library
 
@MichaelDodd Uhh... Looks like it too...
It's better someone put the canned response saying please disclose your affiliation...
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman I mean, it's all properly disclosed, but to post the same response over several questions doesn't sit right
 
@MichaelDodd Ahhh... Custom Mod Flag?
Jon's around...
:)
 
12:05 PM
Anyone know what the best approach is for 1-rep users to re-ask a question, where a duplicate exists, but for which there are no satisfying answers? My present advice (for a specific ongoing case) is to get the author to re-ask the question as if there was not a dup, and then just acknowledge the dup at the end with a link.
 
I'll wait for one more instance
@halfer I'd argue edit the existing post and make the case for re-opening
 
@MichaelDodd no, the new dup is not (yet) closed, but since it is a link to the old one, it is liable for closure.
My advice, which I am asking for feedback on, is to improve the question even it makes it a dup of the other one. Link: stackoverflow.com/questions/51279162/…
I wonder if a straight close-as-dup is not fair, since the dup does not have answer(s) that the new author is happy with.
 
Ron
@halfer What about them jobs? May I ask if you opted for one?
 
Weird... I'm suddenly getting a banner on MSO with Failed retrieving room name. Is it a valid room?. They're probably already doing stuff, planned maintenance is in 45 minutes
 
@ErikvonAsmuth thought maintenance was the 14th?
 
12:17 PM
Oh, might be wrong there. Somebody set an alert in a chat room, I haven't checked.
@Jon You're right, then it's just a random unexplained bug. Doesn't persist after a refresh, guess it's not worth reporting
 
there was some at midnight admittedly but...
 
I need to find a different pile of flags to give to jon ... I'm running out of scooby snacks
 
@Paulie_D The duplicate isn't obvious unless the dup-target is linked somewhere. Preferably in a "Possible duplicate of" comment on the question (i.e. what's auto-generated when you vote/fag to close as duplicate & don't have a gold tag badge). It'd be quite helpful if you add such a comment. I believe that it's still in the "Linked" posts list, but it isn't in comments and isn't in the timeline.
 
@halfer just so you know OP has a deleted NAA on the other question, with an auto-comment, to ask a new question if not same question but related
> I tried the option below --> •configure your web moudle to PARENT LAST classloader •set DisableIBMJAXWSEngine: true in the META-INF/MANIFEST.MF of a WAR file

But it did not resolve my problem. I checked few jars upgrade also did not work out. How this problem was resolved @delayer for u can u pls help confirm ? @delayer @delayer @GAS @GAS ..anyone pls help ?
 
@PetterFriberg thanks, I saw that.
 
12:21 PM
ok, great
 
I have recommended that the new one is rewritten to include all his info, but I am not sure he is intending to comply at this stage.
I will request VTC here if not.
 
baah they decided to post another NAA instead...
 
Ron
Is this edit destructive?
 
@Ron yep... reject vote added.
 
Ron
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Thanks.
 
12:35 PM
@PetterFriberg: ^ I think my Q author is not understanding my feedback, so I think this should just be put on hold for now.
 
Oh wow... Only 2 votes required now for rejections?
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Edit rejections? Hasn't that always been the case?
 
@MichaelDodd I thought it was 3...
 
Ron
Yep, I think it was always 2 both ways.
 
It changed to 2 from 3 several months ago.
 
12:38 PM
Morning
 
o/ Afternoon
 
Ron
o/
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Out of curiosity what was that rejected script meant to do?
 
@Ron Sorry, what script?
 
Hey NO
 
12:46 PM
@Shad \o
 
Ron
1:00 PM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman This one.
Looks like some JavaScript. It's all Greek to me.
 
"Shog9 Directive" - how come no one's worked that into a sci-fi film yet? :p
 
Ron
Is this off-site resource cv material?
 
@JonClements "Shog9 - This time, he means business"
 
@JonClements vader voice activate order shog9
4
 
Guys what's happening here? Looks like a spam attempt: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/20268803
@JonClements ^ :(
 
1:12 PM
Umm.... "Jason X vs Shog 9" - now that'd be a battle that'd be awesome :)
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman That looks like an attempt at a malicious edit
I'll modflag that. Oh wait, hi @JonClements :)
 
@Machavity If there's no direct download, what are some good free products with IBM JDKs that I could scavenge an old version like this from? needs to be removed from the Q
 
@NathanOliver Done
 
Cool
 
@Machavity Ordre de Mufti?
 
1:22 PM
@Ron Hello! I can't remember what update I left here regarding jobs. I think there was something in Liverpool (90 miles away, went for interview, they didn't let me know). There was also something local to me in Birmingham (was put on hold due to problems with the client's client). So I went back to something that I'd turned down, and that was still available.
It's just for a month, and it's not my normal bread and butter - a lot of Apache web/proxy infrastructure so far. But it's challenging (even if mod_rewrite is evil!)
 
Ron
@halfer Nice.
 
@Ron It's quite useful to be able to get some Operations experience, as it helps with my general devops direction
 
Ron
@NathanOliver Please remove this cv request of mine.
@halfer I see. Awesome.
 
Ron
Thanks. I wonder if OP will actually go with that answer. Might get him expelled from the school / college.
SO - making academia twitch since 2008.
 
1:36 PM
@rene once I've finished re-scheme'ing it and re-loading it - can I coerce you to volunteer to help me test/get a few "interesting" base queries when I have the SO dump in dgraph.io ?
 
@Ron You can always tell when someone got help with their homework when they get a task like check if every element in array is unique and the code is sdt::cout << std::boolalpha << std::set{std::begin(array_name), std::end(array_name)}.size() == std::size(array_name);
 
Ron
@NathanOliver Haha. Word!
 
@Nathan mine eyes bleed... what's wrong with len(array_name) != len(set(array_name)) :)
 
@JonClements Nothing wrong with it. We just don't have that plumbing built in yet. We're working on it.
 
1:49 PM
@JonClements sure
 
@rene Thanks
 
@NathanOliver pls no
 
@rene might want to check the query language first though... it's definitely not SQL and it doesn't support Cypher yet (which is at least readable and why I like neo4j)
 
@JonClements yeah, I just checked, needs some study.
 
@rene I've got a reasonable grasp of it - it'd just be nice for someone to share the pain with my if they have time :)
 
2:05 PM
morning
 
@NathanOliver Or... don't precompute a set and short circuit where a duplicate is found: unique = not any(map(lambda L, S=set(): L in S or S.add(L), s)) :p
I doubt any student will ever come up with that :)
 
Sure, just rain on my being able to write this in one line you meanie ;p
 
Sorry... I'm a bad puppy... I'll go sit in the corner...
 
@NathanOliver So, don't use Stack Overflow for C++ homework or you'll get STDs?
 
2:13 PM
@Machavity Well, you can using namespace std to get rid of all the STDs but then the code will fail code review.
 
Ron
...in decent companies.
 
Ron
2:29 PM
Wonders if @Nkosi has won the lottery...
 
@Ron I wish. Tied up organizing for Scout Camp. Will be off grid from Tom. till Next Tue. :P
@Ron And where does one camp out on an Island, you may ask? By the beach of course. lol
 
Ron
@Nkosi Showoff ;)
 
@Ron evil maniacal laugh
 
Nobody told them the island is Iceland ....
 
Yeah but its not relaxing for me when you have mixed group teenagers to watch out for. every trick in the book will be tried.
@rene ROFL
 
Ron
2:34 PM
@Nkosi Just you wait. Climate changes are working in our favor.
 
For real. pretty soon it will be snowing in the Caribbean. lol
But knowing our culture, we'll find a way to still be running around in shorts and flip flops.
You can change our weather, but you wont take away our care-free nature. :P
 
Ron
@Machavity That's a sneaky self advertising post imho.
Quite an attempt at getting exposure.
 
@Ron Only one post is too little to draw such conclusions
 
Ron
@PaulStenne I guess you are right.
 
Plop =)
 
2:43 PM
plop
 
dold
 
Ron
You might want to address that one before it turns into full blown OCD.
Just saying.
But then again, it might just be a phase.
Like my 20 years long binge drinking / chain smoking phase.
 
@mega6382 It's clear that you want the question reopened. More relevant for the request would be why you think it should.
 
It still looks kinda broad.
 
If the OP is looking only for the name of something, then it's fine. I'm uneasy about the "What are some other solutions to this problem in languages with generics?"
I did throw a reopen vote on it after staring at the post for 5 minutes
 
2:58 PM
@Cerbrus Agreed. Plus it's not really clear, "type inference" is already mentioned in the question.
 
@Olaf Actually, he is a contributor of php-src, and there is an RFC for implementing generics in PHP. And I believe he is trying to get more info for that, as it can also be seen from his comment on the question.
 
user3956566
@feelingunwelcome our comments were being flagged under that post lol
 
@mega6382 "Believe" is a bad basis in programming. The question is tagged language-agnostic, it mentions multiple languages (yet uses a specific notation). We don't give advance bonus to people, no matter what they might contribute otherwise. A high-rep user can be expected to provide on-topic questions.
 
3:14 PM
@Olaf Well, I guess, that's true. Thanks, I will keep it in mind.
 
Ron
Culture Club ftw! You oldies had it good.
 
@Ron If he goes with greedy programming, of course the max tip will be lower than desired ;)
 
Ron
@ErikvonAsmuth The terminology these days...
 
@ErikvonAsmuth Some waiters can be tipped completely on their side and they will still not spill the soup course.
@Olaf On PHP? 'type guessing, often incorrectly', seems more likely.
 
user177800
3:36 PM
@YvetteColomb too chatty! :-)
 
user3956566
@feelingunwelcome ikr
 
user3956566
I'm becoming a nervous wreck over comments
 
user3956566
it's really super sensitive out there in the flags
 
user3956566
when people mark something as abusive, that's not, I decline it, but delete it, as often people will keep raising flags. On one comment, or another, or a post.
 
hmm. Looks like someone edited the answer out of the question. I guess that would work
 
3:54 PM
Latest C euthanasia code: 'printf("%c %c %c ", *ptr1++,*ptr1++,*ptr1++);' :((
@YvetteColomb I can imagine. OK, I've had a lot of 'issues' with the whole 'welcoming' debacl.. debate, but I'll say this: I'm glad I'm not a mod ATM. :(
 
user3956566
@MartinJames it has been a trial by fire. I'm enjoying it, but every time there's a blog post about it, I want to hide. Duck and run for cover. We're doing the best we can and cannot keep everyone happy.
 
@NathanOliver Can you bin this request please? Edited and comments point to it being on-topic now
 
4:00 PM
@YvetteColomb Oh, I don't think that anyone expects you mods to keep everyone happy.... ohwait.... some do!
 
@feelingunwelcome you don't need to flag for mod - please ask for a RO to move your message to the designated room for completed cv-pls requests
 
user3956566
@MartinJames oh yes. I've been in trouble for moving comments to chat on meta, so I'm not doing that any more..
 
@YvetteColomb Mods burning the place down? What? Oh, wait...
 
user3956566
@Machavity well.. :)
 
@YvetteColomb Yeah, I saw that one. Now, someone will complain about the great wall of comments:(
 
user3956566
4:02 PM
@MartinJames ikr lol
 
user177800
@YvetteColomb then they are being more abusive than what they are complaining about, why not just ban them from flagging comments.
 
user3956566
people complain, a downvote with no comment, or because someone left a comment, or left too many comments, or not enough... and some of the stuff that's being flagged as abusive.
 
user177800
@JonClements what is the protocol for doing this?
 
user3956566
@feelingunwelcome hmmm. good question. I've never flag banned someone
 
user3956566
isn't there an auto flag ban for declined flags?
 
user177800
4:04 PM
@YvetteColomb sounds like it is time, let us know how it goes!
 
@YvetteColomb There's a scary warning but I can't remember what triggers flag bans
 
user3956566
@feelingunwelcome I need to get the ok from the other mods... I always check with them (I've made a lot of mistakes)
 
@feelingunwelcome ping one of the RO's like @NathanOliver and ask them to move your message that's no longer required to the CV graveyard
 
user3956566
@Machavity X number of declined flags.
 
if closed just let it be, the RO's have script that will automatically move'em
 
user177800
4:06 PM
@YvetteColomb I think you are making a mistake doing the "decline" but still "deleting" you are just pushing them to meta to complain about the "decline" but the comment is gone anyway and now there is no way for anyone to judge if they were in the right or wrong. I would "decline" and "leave" if it really is not rude/abusive.
 
Does something need to be binned?
 
there we go
 
user3956566
@feelingunwelcome that's food for thought. I've writing up more auto comments. As I think as a mod I have an advantage to be able to speak up to new users without causing a bunch of flags (maybe - that's the plan)
 
user177800
@YvetteColomb are you planning on sharing a link to them?
 
4:09 PM
@feelingunwelcome I think it's often more complex then that, what's rude for me is not rude for you etc... comments are so subjective. If mod does not think it's rude well then decline, but still if not useful (hence contains no important information), mods can just as well delete it.
 
user177800
@PetterFriberg I am ASD very little is rude by my standards. :-)
 
user3956566
@feelingunwelcome yeh they're public. I had to delete all my previous auto comments, as they would now be considered rude :/
 
user177800
what is the cmd to tell SmokeDetector it is a positive?
 
k
but you need privs
 
user3956566
these are my auto comments, but they're also designed to cope with mod handling also - so some are useful, some mybe not gist.github.com/yvettec/6779459367ba1ceec16d3130072ea888
 
4:11 PM
I would not flag latest report, the question is asking for that...
 
user177800
@PetterFriberg they are pasting the exact same answer on multiple questions it is SPAM
 
@SmokeDetector Both that user's answers are spam
One's only -1 after 29 minutes, which is unusual
 
@feelingunwelcome raise a custom mod flag, spam = "unsolicited" if you ask for chat bot and I link a chat bot well it's not really "unsolicited" anymore
 
waffle - already covered by feelingunwelcome
 
@MichaelDodd if the question ask for it, it's not spam... but the question probably have a problem and you should deal with that.
close and maybe delete the question...
 
user177800
4:16 PM
@PetterFriberg they are posting that EXACT same answer to multiple questions that are like 6 years old. I do not think it is coincidence that a 5 month old and a 6 year old questions were found organically in the space of 20 mins TODAY. It is SPAM.
 
yeah I see, they have done a nice chat bot and now they like to answer all question that we have not closed that ask for chat bot
the exact same answer will raise an auto mod flag (your not allowed to that), but that's another issue
I will not red flag and I think you should not either, instead I think you should raise a custom mod flag, explaining this.
 
user177800
@PetterFriberg I already did custom flags on both.
 
great
 
user177800
@Yam No improvement they just copy pasted a block in a slightly different place to make it look like a big change.
 
user177800
@PetterFriberg not so great they got decline saying I should have used the standard spam flag.
 
user177800
 
And I ended up withdrawing my spam flags in the doubt as well :/
 
@feelingunwelcome That's the most crazy decline I have ever seen
 
user177800
@MichaelDodd it was still acted on, they deleted both answers and the account but I get dinged for doing the right thing ... can not win for losing.
 
@feelingunwelcome yeah I saw
 
ooh you should not flag as spam if post is answering the question, I will show you meta later
 
4:27 PM
@PetterFriberg If it's in a tin, contains processed pork and has a blue label on it...
 
if they declined a custom flag, telling that OP is doing it more then once, it's a crazy decline
 
user177800
@PetterFriberg I figured it would get declined because it looked like an answer and take the time to explain and still get dinged, you need to explain to THEM not me.
 
Even though it addressed the question, it just "felt" more like spam
 
user177800
@MichaelDodd 2 identical answers on 5 month and 6+ year old questions in 20 mins by a 1 rep user with no other activity is SPAM no doubt about that.
 
@feelingunwelcome Agreed
 
4:29 PM
The mod did not spam nuke the post, hence they did not apply the spam flag, they did however nuke the user...
I'm not really sure what the mod was thinking... first not spam... then finds other stuff, then check ip, then a bad user, lets nuke it
 
meta post time?
 
baah will not change much
 
user177800
@PetterFriberg I honestly do not really care except for the inconsistency in moderation.
 
The inconsistency will always be present, since different persons
 
@PetterFriberg Nah, not looking for change, just curious as to the decision process
 
4:33 PM
@MichaelDodd Feel free to post..., the moderator just deleted the post, hence did not apply spam flag, not sure why (maybe avoid audit), maybe first they did not agree that it was spam since question was asking for it.. THen they saw Jarrod's flag and found the other one, they declined the flag and nuked the OP baah, I'm not sure what is happening
 
@feelingunwelcome In a case like that, where you're using a custom flag to indicate something that could be done with a specific flag, I find it's best to first explain why you're using the custom flag instead of the standard flag.
 
user177800
@MichaelDodd Maybe this is a better expression.
 
For instance, this could have been "This question actually asks for answers like this, thus this, by itself is not spam. However, this user has posted X nearly identical answers about this package in the last N minutes (did they write it and not disclose that?). Thus, while this single answer isn't spam on it's face, the fact that the user is posting multiple answers about this in rapid succession makes them spam."
 
user177800
@Makyen you are asking a lot there ... :-)
 
@Makyen sure but still... "The same exact answer to multiple questions" is already enough for an approved custom flag
 
4:35 PM
@feelingunwelcome Yeah, I know. But the mods are human and trying to handle flags rapidly.
@PetterFriberg Yeah, and I agree that the mod should have taken more time.
 
user177800
I am out of votes ... later overzealous elitist mod crazy peoples
 
But, having the first thing stated be "this is spam" sets in their mind what you are trying to do, and they may not look too closely at the rest.
 
maybe.. but they did not spam nuke the post...
hence instead they did what Jarrod suggest... delete it
if the post was spam nuke, theen maybe yeah "Obvious spam", use spam flag, but since not spam nuke... bah
anyway we can only guess.. lets move on, if someone likes fun on meta they can ask...
 
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it gets better the other exact same custom flag was marked helpful - i.stack.imgur.com/WRE6C.png
 
4:42 PM
@feelingunwelcome Then I guess they did not agree it was spam on first post... then they saw the other one and agreed... hence nuked the post...
You should have included link to other answer in first flag
some confusion but ok... yeah as Mayken said a better custom flag maybe would have been more helpful to mods
Personally I would have rasied only 1 flag with link to other answer (User posting multiple identical spammy answers <link>), something like that...
 
4:55 PM
Yeah, there's almost certainly a way to write it that doesn't use as much verbiage as I did, but which will get the mod to understand. I tend to be overly-verbose. I also strongly agree that having links to the additional problem posts is very beneficial. You might be able to skip them if all of the user's posts are at issue, or at least a large number of them.
 
5:35 PM
Quite old stuff @Olaf :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Now as you tell … I just helped queenie.
 
6:14 PM
Any 10k+ user can tell me if this deleted question is exactly the same as this one?
 
@AndréKool Yes, they're the same, minus some wording
 
@ErikvonAsmuth In that case I think I will go for the mod flag. Thank you
 
Don't know if deleting + reposting a question is modflag-worthy though. Ofc it's not a good thing...
I mean, they won't suspend him for it I think, the most they'll do is a hey, stop doing that message
 
Unfortunatly I have seen this question a couple time already so I think a mod flag is in order. But maybe someone got a nice comment about deleting and reposting questions???
 
6:36 PM
That question misses just some very low level understandings of value representation.
The usual complaint regarding pointer representation goes the other way round :P
 
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