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12:24 AM
would anyone consider web scraping a porn site rude/abusive? stackoverflow.com/questions/50687715
I'm leaning towards no in this case
but it's unlikely to be a useful question
 
Rob
Nope, it's not
 
lol. especially as it is still a bit unclear and broad
I'll leave that up to the almighty mods. to sort out. :P
but I am sure they have bigger stuff to deal with.
 
 
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4:56 AM
@EJoshuaS Another time, please include an actual close reason.
 
5:18 AM
@Makyen Could be "unclear" or "too broad" - the OP didn't even really ask a valid question. I suppose "unclear" is probably the correct reason.
 
 
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7:02 AM
Should we keep ? It is a website containing some kind of cloud/browser programming environment. Tag created in March, not much quality amongst the 11 questions there
 
Morning \o
 
@RO, please remove this cv-pls I was wrong with the reason (should be rather no MCVE)
 
Imagine that Microsoft is going to acquire StackExchange Inc....
How many angry meta posts would there be?
 
@kayess one, but lots of answers ....
@Adriaan there is a misunderstanding on that latest question in that tag
 
7:35 AM
@rene so the remaining 10e+13638127 would get closed as dupe of that one : )
 
yep, and merged, and deleted ...
 
I'm not quite sure of this hysteria around MS+GH acquistion, do you get it?
 
Well, MS gets it (ka-ching), and GH gets it (blam).
 
Just the normal M$ bashing. Once they're done bashing they start edlin again and continue coding their vbscript ....
 
MS has a history of Embrace Extend Extinguish. In recent times post - Balmer things seem to be changed but there is still lack of trust
 
7:42 AM
All I see is ppl reacting by their long time pinched traumas
Well, what I see is: this is not the old MS anymore... news has it that GH stuff is going to belong under ScottGu
Who is a really laser focused guy, check the ASP.NET core things lately
Also their new CEO Nat is an awesome guy, both having OSS backgrounds
 
How to report the answer as spam? stackoverflow.com/questions/50694649/…
 
There you go @Steve
 
@kayess thanks
 
8:02 AM
Does anyone know if that answer is legit?^
Oh looks like is back
 
@SurajRao Is it me or is that templeos question off-topic and self-answering? (The quote says: "A clus is just one 512 byte sector." )
 
Its general computing.. It was cleaned up previously. Plenty of discussion in meta meta.stackoverflow.com/search?q=templeos
I cant seem to find the exact burninate request though
 
8:17 AM
I don't there there was ever an official burnination request for that, just a lot of discussion
 
There was discussion of migrating all of it..meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/368021/…
 
I don't fancy to have this room involved again in it. We did once, we took our stance. Now it is up for others.
 
/shrug
fine with me
 
\shrug
 
8:55 AM
o/
 
o/
 
Guys, why does everyone add an extra tag after cv-pls? I was told this was used to indicate that domain knowledge is required to cast close votes. Yet nobody seems to use it that way, everyone uses it as "close vote this question please, it is about x"
Like that one question just now ^, I don't need to know jack about Android to close a library recommendation question.
 
@Lundin Primary tag of the question, so if you see something you're familiar with you may be able to make a better decision on borderline cases
 
@Lundin I thought you were meant to add the primary language tag, not that domain knowledge is needed
@MichaelDodd Bah beat me to it
 
9:05 AM
@Lundin That's auto-added by the request generator. For certain close reasons (duplicate , no MCVE) I look at it and decide not to review.
 
Plus it's done automatically by the cv-pls script anyway
 
Seems I am correct in my understanding then.
"Because closing as a duplicate requires more domain specific knowledge, informing other chat members of the primary tag helps them quickly figure out if they would be effective in reviewing the request."
And since I don't know jack about Android, C#, PHP and whatever, those tags are counter-productive. The tag is supposed to be there to inform others if they should bother looking.
 
@Lundin You could switch that up, look at the close reason first and then decide if you should bother to look at the tags :P
 
That's not the point, I don't hang around here often. I was taught to use a certain syntax and then suddenly some sub-culture forms and starts to fork out a different meaning than the one in the FAQ.
My take is that the extra tag is for those with domain knowledge of a topic but no gold dupe hammer, who wants help with close as dupe.
 
I wouldn't call it a sub-culture. It's just auto-added by the request generator. If you're manually writing your request, I'd just stick to the faq. Requests made by the generator aren't very customizable, you can only change the reason.
 
9:17 AM
It may be that the FAQ should be re-written. But I see little other purpose for using domain-specific tags. Or is someone making some sort of statistics out of them?
 
9:33 AM
@Lundin We're not making any statistics out of them. Based on experience, I'd say that the primary tag can be useful information for many/most requests. There are certainly times when I'll choose to assign primary importance to requests of all types with tags I'm particularly familiar with, secondary importance to those I'm not unfamiliar with and tertiary importance to those that I know I have, historically, found to need knowledge I don't have, or where I've generally disagreed with closure.
 
@Lundin that is exactly the reason. So you can go upfront php, my eyes ...
double pings are the best pings ...
@Vega you have a semi-colon there ...
 
Wafflesâ„¢
 
Many pings
 
@rene You want some?
 
It is ping day
 
9:35 AM
A new RO project to reply simultaneously to all things worth replying to?
 
Of course. It's twice as good that way.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth yes. We have this race to the top to become the most prolific RO responder. Although @Makyen is way ahead there is still hope for the others to win the prize of having to raise 1000 helpful meta comments flags. Who would decline that ...
:42809852 it wasn't that bad ;)
 
@rene I see that you have convinced them ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/let-them-paste-passwords, it's an audit for web apps now (LightHouse) :)
 
@Lundin The request format discussion in the FAQ describes what we consider the minimum requirements to be for requests. It also says that people are welcome to use the request generator userscript. The userscript adds additional information which people have found helpful. It would actually be more work to code it such that it only supplied the additional information for some request reasons.
 
9:44 AM
 
@SardarUsama I would say too broad
 
 
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10:55 AM
 
@SurajRao There was none., because it could have been done the nonm-bureaucratic way. There are just two (one?) user propagating that thing.
 
11:30 AM
OP has a problem with their code which interfaces with a product and asks about it on SO thinking they have a bug in their code. A product evangelist posts "Looks like you found a bug [in our product]. The team is working on it. Thanks for writing this up." Very useful answer, NAA, or...?
 
@StephenKennedy Moin! You have a link? I'd check the question for a mcve and the other required information. The answer is low quality, but could be an answer ("you found a bug in the product") nevertheless.
 
@StephenKennedy "We're working on it" isn't much of an answer
 
To me the info that it's not a bug at my side, straight from the horse's mouth, would be invaluable. I seem to be in a minority as it was deleted so just wondered if/where I'm going wrong. stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/19931931
 
@StephenKennedy @NickA It's a known bug and there's no workaround available is an answer imo. I'd personally leave it open
 
@ErikvonAsmuth I'm not saying it's not an answer (it clearly is, it's the only answer unless there's some convoluted workaround (question depending)), it's just not much of one
 
11:39 AM
@StephenKennedy I'm split actually. Maybe if there was more info about the bug, how to work around until fixed could help. Anyway it's not my field of knowledge, so just my 5ct.
 
One would normally expect at least a link to a GH issue or similar, that's true. Anyway, thanks everyone for the feedback.
 
@NickA NAA is strictly for posts which don't even try to answer. It's not VLQ to me either, just LQ, which is a DV, but not a delete reason.
 
@Olaf I'm not arguing that it's delete worthy, I didn't even see the answer in question before it was removed
 
@NickA Well, yes, that's the problem with <10k rep ;-): you can't see deleted Q/A. It's as Stephen cited.
 
12:09 PM
Nevermind ^ mod-flagged that post asking to clear all the comments
 
@AlonEitan Must be summer there. The heat is on.
 
Is it 'Bad Usages of Nested Ternary Operator Day', and nobody bothered to inform me?
 
Well yesterday it was the "Terrible PHP questions day" so who knows
 
@MartinJames Ain't every day abuse-a-language-construct day?
 
12:26 PM
@Olaf Yes - why do they come in waves? Why would a 15k user and a 2 user both suddenly get out of bed and decide to ask about nested ternary operators at the same time?
 
@MartinJames Ley-Lines?
 
@AlonEitan psst del vote it
 
@Machavity Not enough rep for that (Must wait 3 days), but it's on my "favorites" for later...
 
@AlonEitan I mean make a request. It's got 2 deletes on the Q now
 
Thanks @Machavity
 
12:37 PM
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
'fternoon
@NathanOliver what do you think: Caps or Knights?
 
Caps
no wait, Tabs
 
....spaces
 
12:44 PM
laughs as half the room is cast into the gorge of doom
 
Some ROs just like to watch the room burn
 
@Nkosi Yeah, let's go burning down the house! (I didn't start the fire, though).
@Adriaan No anything, but an apparently unrelated tag.
 
So I guess now there will be a flood of support questions about how to do stuff in GitLab that they used to be able to to in GitHub. :P
 
@Nkosi Are they that different?
And soon we will get questions asking how to deploy GH stuff to Azure.
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12:53 PM
lol
that is a given based on their history.
@Olaf Can't really say as my knowledge base on GitLab is rather limited.
 
@Nkosi I actually wish I had to wonder how to move my stuff to GL now. That would mean I had strted my project and made it available at GH already. But I just can't get my a** up and start. The heat does not really help, I think about playing Cryostorm just for distraction.
 
@Yam seen that; but it's just the error. Code is still lacking
 
@Olaf Funny thing is, MS is spending tons to be the next AWS. Which is smart, since Win10 will probably not run most of the Internet connected devices in the future
 
@Machavity A brave guess: Win11 or 12 will be based on a Linux kernel strangled by toolkits similar to Android. google showed how to embrace Linux/OSS such that it can hardly breath and becomes unusable without proprietary stuff. MS will bring this to perfection as seen on TV (Win10/pre).
 
@Olaf Win10 is actually free to run on ARM-based systems like the Raspberry Pi
 
1:05 PM
@Olaf they claimed at least that there wouldn't be any version beyond Win10; it just gets small updates from time to time, instead of a big version update
 
@Machavity And there is some Win IoT. I haver no idea why anyone would use them, but marketing will do the magic. After all that's MS absolute main competence.
@Adriaan How about "Win10+1"? Well, strictly, there would be no "Win11 without the NT kernel. So they were formally correct.
 
@Olaf Windows X, Rampaging Cougar edition
 
@Machavity Aren't all wild cat names TM'ed by Apple?
Whining Weasle. But that sounds more like Ubuntu.
 
@Olaf Probably the ones that have come out. But, seeing as Apple owns rectangles with rounded edges as a design, maybe they do own more
 
Anyone with JS knowledge: is this reopenable now?
 
1:14 PM
Opinions on this question? I'd say close/del not reproducible as per OP's answer, despite accepted answer. New answer 3 hours ago so now active
 
@MichaelDodd Yes. No Repro or "customer support for your favourite company" fits (since Google had to fix the error)
 
@Machavity From what I know they patented and TM'ed in the past, I would bet they piled up a stock of names for the next 50 years even for esoteric categories.
 
1:55 PM
@Yam Still too broad
 
Good morning/afternoon/evening/night, all
 
The formatting on that one from smokey is giving me a headache :(
 
user3956566
@rene sorry, my brain is fatigued, finished my exams today, so incapable of absorbing any info on the burn process. Sounds lame I know.. but I'm so tired.
 
@YvetteColomb It is your call. I'm fine with going either way but if you keep it, please find how you can add the proper post notice
 
user3956566
@rene I removed the tag, can you reflag it?
 
2:08 PM
@YvetteColomb sure
 
user3956566
thanks
 
SO uses some interesting conditions in their code :P
 
@AndréKool Hmm, no Iceland involved? meta.stackexchange.com/a/54746/158100
@EJoshuaS if you were the one flagging your own meta post to put it up for burniation, please see chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/42814680#42814680
 
@rene going there in 15 days; I'll check for you
 
@rene Unfortunatly they are nowhere to be found...
 
2:16 PM
@Adriaan Ha!
 
@rene I'm afraid I'll have a six day work week, not a vrijmibo every day
 
@SmokeDetector mmm I don't think it is offensive
 
@Adriaan are you going to listen how the earth rumbles there?
 
@rene sort-of. My masters has a yearly fieldwork there to get students acquainted with geodetic techniques, in this case measuring inside a volcano crater. The idea is that the volcano moves, but also there's a geothermal power station in the crater (solid ground, no liquid lava there) pumping water which causes ground motion. We have collected data the past 6 years, and now, in the 7th year, me and another student are going to do data analysis on the time-series of the measurements
 
2:58 PM
@Adriaan that sounds like an interesting trip.
 
@Nkosi Something like this?
 
lol. Dupe so soon self deleted.
:)
 
3:35 PM
I need assistance: stackoverflow.com/questions/50703878/… this link seems shady as hell
the jar link appears to be a youtube/embed?
 
@Compass Seems like it, looking at it i'd guess its a file on javazoom but I wouldn't click it, links can be tricky... Presumably op was looking at a youtube video and the link was an annotation or similar
 
the first .zip file on this page is what it is linking to javazoom.net/javalayer/sources.html
seems legit, just poorly formed like Nick mentioned
 
rude and abusive have their own category now in user flags stats?
 
@Alec I thought they always did...
Spam certainly has for a while (now I'm doubting myself...)
 
@NickA oh, I have never seen them as a separate stat when I click on my "helpful flags"
I know spam was
maybe cause I reached 500 rep?
 
3:42 PM
@Alec Maybe because you didn't have one?
 
ah thats probably it hahaha
I have a few comment flags as rude and abusive, but I guess they are assumed different from the questions flagged as rude and abusive
 
@Alec Yes they are, if you go into your comment flags you'll see rude/abusive in black text, but if you go to the post flags you'll see it in white on red instead
 
4:11 PM
oh god
they just rolled out the sidebar on meta
in like the last 10 minutes
 
kinda ugly
does not feel right
 
You can fix it with a userstyle - #left-sidebar { position: relative; left: -320px; }
 
oh the humanity
 
CHEESE MOVED!
NO AUTOHIDE?! WHAT IS THIS SORCERY!
 
@Braiam My head! Don't shout!
 
4:21 PM
It's the beginning of the end........of the old style :P
I noticed the buttons on the SO Users page was restyled a few days ago
 
@Braiam it's a profile checkbox setting
 
I guess Bhargav got busy and forgot. If you have some delete votes to toss at [hdd] we can make that tag go away faster
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i.stack.imgur.com/PZaQu.png if anyone is interested, these are my Stylish styles for sanity-fixing the sidebar layout (in my opinion)
Will probably update them more in the future/as I have time
 
4:43 PM
@TylerH image of code -> No MCVE
 
@Machavity wasn't it decide that it only was a clean-up?
 
@rene Clean up then synonym with [hard-drive]
Delete the closed ones and all we need is the synonym done
 
5:22 PM
@Adriaan curses, I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you kids and that pesky dog of yours...
@TylerH of course, this "breaks" if the window is not at 1080px wide... to be fixed later
 
6:05 PM
RO can you please delete my last cv-pls? I was able to help the OP (Lucky guess) and they self-answered the question with the solution that worked
 
@AlonEitan @NathanOliver
Plz
 
Pretty plz
 
I'm at a conference on my phone, won't be back until Thursday
 
Thanks!!!
What happened in meta.stackoverflow.com ? New grid design?
 
6:25 PM
@AlonEitan the new left nav design has gone live
it's been discussed at length over on MSE for the last few months
it will be coming to SO main some time this week, too
 
Oh, I don't follow MSE. Looks terrible :(
 
@Machavity Why would a tag like that exist?
 
@Braiam old stack overflow was a wild place
 
Is there anything that can be with this highly upvoted question that also linked to other duplicates? They links on that question redirect to 404 page so it seem useless but also undeletable
 
@AlonEitan Hm? This page comes up as a 404 for you? stackoverflow.com/questions/linked/22658015?lq=1
 
6:34 PM
@TylerH No, the links in the question itself
 
Ah
well, you can edit it to show wayback archived versions of those links
or you can try to get all the questions that are closed as dupes of it deleted first, then get this one deleted
 
I mean, you can understand the issue simply by the error description, but the links will not help anyone
 
Technically there is only 1 question that is preventing it from being deleted - this one stackoverflow.com/questions/31367444/…
all the rest are just mentioned inline rather than closed as dupes of it
so you can request a on that one. I would vote to delete it but I am out of delete votes for the day
 
@TylerH Do you think the links themselves are important? Perhaps removing them and leaving only the error can improve anything?
I believe that the error itself what made this question upvoted so many times, so perhaps the removal of the dead links will solve that 404 issue?
 
@AlonEitan well yeah removing the links will stop other people from visiting them, which would mean no more 404 errors
as for whether keeping the links provides value... no they do not, if they are currently dead.
it's for this exact reason that we require questions to include all pertinent info in them rather than just linked :-)
 
6:41 PM
Well, the question was about js errors on a browser, but some answers address it as a NodeJS question.
 
Totally agree @TylerH :) What if we remove the link from "a program I am writing" and also delete the last sentence ("This is my html file, and this is the layout of my directory. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?")? It will keep the actual error and also handle the dead links
I believe the question can still be useful without those links
 
 
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7:55 PM
@Olaf Might be a GIL..
 
Hi all! o/
 
@MartinJames Guybrush Treepwood Island Looting?
Anyone eveer encountered a monitor where HDMI suddenly failed, but DVI worked fine?
 
@SmokeDetector Again?
 
@Olaf Github Is Lost
@Olaf I had a graphics card where the HDMI would be intermittent but the DVI was OK..
 
@MartinJames Nah, MS is a major contributor for years (IIRC they even had the most contributions for a years or more). So it's more like homecoming.
@MartinJames The computer works fine on both. I connected the same HDMI cable to my 40" and it works fine, even with 4K (although at 30Hz, because of HDMI1.4 only). So it must be the monitor. I thought about a contact problem, but it happend in a momemnt without even touching the table.
 
8:10 PM
@Olaf Obviously, you've tried all the usual suspects, power-cycle etc. Is it hot there where you are?
 
Starngely the monitor seems to detect there is a cable plugged into HDMI. It says "check signal cable".
 
@Olaf Hmm... factory reset?
 
@MartinJames Tbh, I did not do a complete cycle (should have thought of it), but I used the power-button (that thing does not support galvanic isolation)
 
@Olaf Ah.. plug out, coffee, plug in :)
 
@MartinJames I prefer to avoid it. The OSM is a horror and I just changed some setting to get the PC running without degraded image (e.g. nonsense scaling). I remember it took me quite some hours research to see how I could disable scaling FHD input to the FHD LCD.
@MartinJames Does digging (literally) in my cable box instead of coffe work, too? It's a bit too late for coffe and I don't even think I have any still consumable.
 
8:15 PM
@Olaf lol monitor OSM's. I managed to accidentally change the language on mine to Chinese. Took ages, and much trial/error, to get it back to English:)
 
Weell, it runs via DVI-DVI now. The only problem is I can't pass audio to the display that way. Not much of a problem, because I normally use a SP/DIF connection to my 5.1 anyway. But I now can't have sound when I watch a movie. Well, I have to find a normal audio cable then. he said fetching his scuba gear on the way to the cable box
@MartinJames IIRC, I managed this on my TomTom. At some point I considered taking a Chinese (or was it Japanese?) language course to be the lesser effort.
 
good to know I'm not the only one with a cable box
 
@Olaf I hate the cable box too. Why did the D-type designers make them like anchors?
 
@StephenKennedy I'd be surprised to see someone interested in electronics/computers not having one. Althought I don't think most of them (still) have Centronics and SCSI cables in their box (most likely close to the ground).
 
I mean, the stupid thumbscrews are like a torture device anyway. Even with easy access, which never happens, you cannot screw them in without getting fingers trapped. The rest of the time, they fall back to thieir usual function as anchor-flukes that grab onto every other cable within sight:(
 
@MartinJames I just found my old Palm-IIIc in the box. hot-glued to its desk-stand because the battery was done and the old Palms stored all data in DRAM. Pulled out almost half of the cables when I pulled this cable. The other 50% were still packed.
@MartinJames Well, after al they are robust. And if you have the right type, the screws work not that bad. But agreed, I prefer clips or bajonette. HDMI OTOH is a good example for a bad connector.
 
@Olaf I hate them. If your container ship or ULCC is disabled and dragging to a lee shore, disconnecting all the bridge and engine room monitors and throwing the cables overboard will hold the ship until a tug can get a line aboard.
 
@Alec You can just flag that as NAA and it will get handled
 
what he says ^
 
@NathanOliver apologies, ran out of votes so I assumed I could post here
flags*
 
8:37 PM
Ah, yeah, we don't do NAA flags here since it only takes one person.
 
I will remember that!
 
@MartinJames I don't like them for the PC or other office installations. but for industrial applications or if you need stable and reliable connectors they are fine. Of course they are useless for modern high-speed connections. But for most field-bus applications RS-485 is still fine.
 
@Olaf Of course, of your ship/boat has <5000 tonnage, you could make do with RJ45 cables/connectors. Sure enough, the later-designed ethernet connectors maintained the standard by having an inconvenient hook-style clamp that continued the tradition of snagging on anything it touched:(
 
@MartinJames Yes, but that finger easily breaks. I have quite some RJ45 (and RJ11) cables which don't stay in the plug if there is even the least force on the cable.
There are some RJ45 connectors which have a plastic cap over the clip, avoiding this problem.
 
@Olaf That too. Unexplained Monday-morning lab network problems? Power-cycle all the Cisco routers and bang on all the connectors, problem solved.
 
8:56 PM
@MartinJames I luckily don't have Cisco routers. Never had such problems
 
9:08 PM
What the heck happened to Meta SO?
 
ugh, the implement the left hand menu.. :(
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Turn the thing off in 'Settings':(
 
It's called 'Left Navigation' instead of 'waste a quarter your screen' for some reason.
 
Oh, I already forgot they were planning that.
 
9:12 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara I turned it off immediate.
 
can i post a delete request on my own question that has -5 votes on it, even though there is an upvoted answer?
also its been marked as duplicate
 
\o
 
Check out the FAQ to see exactly what you can and cannot do.
o/
 
@BaummitAugen rule 15 i see her lol thanks
 
9:24 PM
I don't mind the new Meta layout, I guess because I run a widescreen laptop. I can see more of the content now, since it is not pushed down as much vertically.
 
9:55 PM
o/
 
\o
 
10:32 PM
@halfer Yeah, I wonder when we are back to a single line editing on the ultra-mega-hyper-wider screen with 102400*2400 Pixels on 14"
 
11:19 PM
@Olaf :-)
 
11:43 PM
Does this question look like customer support?
 

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