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3:25 AM
 
3:36 AM
Same as 99% of the posts in [android]. No big loss if it goes away, if that's what you're asking. Plenty of posts here already that show how to do what the OP ended up doing.
Other than the OP, the only user who had any time invested in that is pskink, and they're not going to post an answer.
 
user3956566
@MikeM. yeh it's mediocre
 
...and 'doubt' or 'doubts' is this years winner of the 'Most Obvious Flag of a Bad Question' award, narrowly beating out 'confusion' and 'stumbled'.
 
 
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7:12 AM
Does this Q. sound to you like incremental 'fix my syntax' and debugging? Smells off to me, but I'm no r expert:( stackoverflow.com/q/49515289/758133
 
7:37 AM
@MartinJames our cucumber friend never uses close votes or hammer. We could create a room for him: SONCVR : "stack overflow never close vote rather"
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre lol
 
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah - just seen it. Seems that OP imagines that one assignment operation is enough to swap two liked-list nodes. Seems a shame to burst its bubble, so I'll just downvote for now and let it OP simmer in its own juice for a bit:)
 
Homework Sunday got an extension with Homework Easter Monday special
@MartinJames maybe I'm getting tired by all this or I need a vacation but the question doesn't make sense to me. Plus I don't need any c++ points :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre There's a lot that does not make sense this weekend. Not sure how much of it was April-fool questions.
 
@MartinJames if only... I like a good laugh from time to time. You should pick up that lead now, I'll go buy chocolate eggs for my kids.
 
8:34 AM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre The rain is too heavy for dog walking, but I hope your family have fun:)
 
@MartinJames choose a normal country for your next life :)
 
9:30 AM
@VadimKotov thats new...
 
9:51 AM
@StephenKennedy done
 
@Makyen found a bug in your roomba tool: stackoverflow.com/questions/49594819/…: says "downvote answer will roomba". But it cannot because there's one upvoted answer.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre That's telling you that if the answer were to be downvoted the question would then roomba
 
that ^
 
@StephenKennedy okay! I'm not downvoting an answer to make roomba work.
I prefer deleting the question.
@Makyen your script is working. My eyes aren't.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm just the messenger :) Use the tools as you see fit
 
10:04 AM
So now we blame it on the eyes ...
 
!!/blame
 
@Nkosi It's Vadim Kotov's fault.
 
that will do ...
 
The tool is merely providing information. If any particular post is not otherwise worthy of a down-vote, then it certainly shouldn't be down-voted just to make a question Roomba.
 
@Makyen it's very useful (when eyes/brain/whatever rene thinks is working properly)
 
10:07 AM
:P
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Thanks. :-) Yeah, that latter part is something that happens to all of us form time to time. :-)
 
maybe increasing the font size...
like 72.
and flashing.
 
maybe... investing in a new pair of spectacles
 
or a trained dog to read the text.
 
<blink></blink> should be added back to the HTML standard
 
10:09 AM
@StephenKennedy that can't be, I don't have spectacles... yet.
@rene that was sure fun in the netscape times.
 
@rene eek! You're telling me it went away?! brb, have a large code repository to edit
 
Just use CSS animations
 
@JohnDvorak yeah, never got into that
 
You don't get into CSS animations. CSS animations get into you.
 
python:
import time
while True: print("\rRoomba",end=""); time.sleep(1); print("\r ",end="");time.sleep(1)
 
10:22 AM
does this make sense?
 
@SurajRao meh, z-index error. we have better things to do
 
looks like one of my recent meta questions. The latest ones... well the last ones :)
 
@SurajRao If there were no other problem with the site we would be fine.
 
@Olaf like trying to get winter bash right
 
10:39 AM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I actually have to current rendering problems in my browser in mind. Buit as that is not supported anyway and I seem to be the only one having this issue, I don't think it makes sense to complain. I just wish they would stop messing with the title bar and just leave a working version untouched for more than 2 weeks.
 
@Olaf wise decision. I'm not touching meta "Ask Question" again anytime soon.
someone else can't read blinking text: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/365463/…
 
Plop!
Cancelling all my appointments, XKCD is my only purpose in life today.
 
let's stop linking to meta posts just because you can ...
 
@rene ok! feel free to discard the messages.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Meh, it is easier to keep context in this case, I think
 
10:51 AM
no, don't feel free to :P
 
@Olaf @MartinJames I've found the perfect cucumber C question: stackoverflow.com/questions/49609786/…
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Eeeeek! 'stumbled':(
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre One is missing. Shall we re-open and pour sour cream on top to bait the third one?
 
Ron
o/
 
@Olaf What a load of BS
 
Ron
10:54 AM
First day at work.
 
@Ron Resigned or fired yet?
 
Ron
Always an option :)
 
@MartinJames The answer by spd is actually not that wrong. But normally, the library should provide a hint to the compiler not to warn for such functions (IIRC, gcc does the opposite: an attribute to add if the result must be used).
 
@Ron I hope the weather is better than here. I would not like to overnight in a railway-arch cardboard box in this sleet.
 
Ron
Lol.
It's sunny.
 
10:58 AM
@Olaf I cannot even remember getting a warning for discarding a function result. Sometimes, it just does not matter a PHP.
 
Ron
Excuse the typos. I'm on mobile version.
 
Haskell has a built-in function that turns an I/O action that produces a result to one that doesn't. Its purpose is much the same as (void) in C
 
@MartinJames I suppose it's not only gcc doing this the other way 'round. Not that I use that either. (Come to think: it's not a bad idea)
@Ron Just don't let the boss see you using your phone all the time, or it will be your last, too
 
@Olaf The warning swould just get turned off. There is no force in the universe that is strong enough to get the newbies to check the result returned by scanf().
3
 
Ron
@Olaf I doubt it will be a problem.
 
11:04 AM
The real solution is to take away scanf from them and have them use regexes.
 
@JohnDvorak Eeeeeeeek!
 
fine then. Split by whitespace.
 
..or recv(), for that matter :(
 
@MartinJames If you turn off warnings intentionally, that's your problem. I appreciate the plethora of diagnostics gcc provides. If I get warnings for something I know it's correct, I use a cast, including the one mentioned (e.g. when not using function parameters). There have been 1 or 2 occasions I had to temporarily disable a waring for a single loc. The rest is fine.
@Ron Ah, you're working in a phone company.
 
Ron
@Olaf I kid you. The working day is over. Back to the cardboard.
 
11:09 AM
@Ron Over?? You can't be more than 2 hours ahead. When do you start working? 4:00h?
 
@Ron I hope you get a good spot, next to the brazier where the down-and-out druggies burn scrap to keep warm.
 
Ron
@Olaf You got me. Lunch break.
 
@MartinJames Hmm, you really sound like you have some experience. I start wondering what those sheds you mention actually are (and where you store your pizza) …
 
@Ron Is your company large enough to have a good soup kitch... canteen/restaurant?
 
Isn't burning scrap better than ... hoarding it in huge heaps just so that we can burn up dinosaur corpses instead?
 
Ron
11:12 AM
@MartinJames Yes.
 
@Ron :)
 
@JohnDvorak Depends on how you brun them and which emissions they produce. Typically when burning garbage oil or gas is added, too to have equal conditions, independent of what's burnt.
 
@JohnDvorak You burn COBOL developers to keep warm?
 
Ron
Lol.
 
11:39 AM
Daily ditty from my Anne:

You are weak, you're a fool,
How you dribble and you drool!
Your software smells like month-old brie,
Stop writing code with PHP!
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11:59 AM
@Olaf, right, but sooo close.
 
@MartinJames Are we bringing back the poetry again?
 
12:42 PM
a long question has the outcome of "I forgot to initialise an array". Does that count as typo?
 
Ron
o/
 
this is the question I am asking about: tagged : stackoverflow.com/q/3621657/397817
 
@StephenKennedy I'd go with "no mcve". That's more like a novel garnished with code snippets.
 
morning
 
12:51 PM
Oh look, its a gunr. Lets watch as it gets ready to join a meeting
 
yes, in 9 minutes
 
@StephenKennedy POB. Also moot once IPv6 takes hold
 
I just ping google.com. I never seen google down.
 
@Machavity Fair enough but "recommend" implies opinionated already
@Machavity I'm now stuck wondering if there is such a thing as a memorable IPv6 address :)
 
1:02 PM
::1?
 
oh, zeroes can be omitted
 
I believe so, at least for the local host
I really haven't played with IPv6 yet. I should probably put that on my todo list
 
@Machavity takes hold ... in 6 to 8 years ...
 
in the distant past I used to run an amateur packet radio node with TCP/IP on top. At 1200 baud one could examine each packet on the screen in real time :) Great for learning if nothing else.
 
@rene Counted from which year?
 
1:14 PM
@rene You're optimistic this morning. Someone give you some Miracle Gro?
 
@StephenKennedy What bitrate?
@dasblinkenlight Would work, too, but not ideomatic. Anyway, typo, yes
 
@Olaf Right, it's me using iterator idioms with indexes for consistency.
 
@Olaf It was 1200 baud AFSK AX.25 on the 144 Mhz band. I don't remember the bit rate (was over 20 years ago) but I think it was 1200 bps.
 
@StephenKennedy AX.25 … one of the worse legacies from the 70ies since U(S)ARTs exist. I had to read into it for pico-sat communication. Threw it away pretty soon and design a new one, which was way more MCU-fiendly. And it still is used for new developments. Pico-Sat folks are no protocol designers. They rarely are experienced engineers/software-devs.
 
1:32 PM
@Olaf Well for me the AX25 part was black box. I just had to set up the TCP/IP stack on Linux and connect it to a hardware TNC, which interfaced (analogue) to the transceiver. If I remember rightly it simply patched into the microphone and speaker sockets.
 
@StephenKennedy Wow, that left the net bitrate beyond anything reasonable. I never understood people add stacks on top of stacks, less for such already low bitrates. Whoever designed such stuff should really have to write a webbrowser for the ZX81 as punishment.
 
@Olaf Lol, some radio ham is probably working on that right now :)
 
@StephenKennedy I wouldn't doubt that. The HAM folks struggle hard to leave the 80ies homecomputer era (not that one couldn't have done it right with them, but most users were just tinkering with them without proper background about SW design, protocols, etc. I had more than my fair share of discussion with some of them. (a friend of mine is the exception from the rule, though)
@StephenKennedy: Sorry, I forgot a not: "The HAM folks struggle hard not to leave …"
 
1:49 PM
Thoughts on this suggested edit? Isn't the material it is attempting to remove exactly the kind of guidance we DO want in a tag wiki excerpt? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/19298749 (disclaimer: I found this in the queue, but I made the edit adding the usage guidance)
 
@StephenKennedy rejected the edit
 
@rene Thanks. I think I'll Skip, since I added the material in the first place.
 
2:08 PM
hey it looks like that person went blep after friday
 
user3956566
I added another couple of comments to our repo. One may seem like a duplicated comment on adding details in the comments, it's just a touch different and I find it useful, let me know if you have issues with it
 
I made some toast over the weekend.
It was delicious.
 
user3956566
@Compass yum. Now I'm hungry for toast. What did you put on it?
 
2:47 PM
i put butter
but not just any butter
butter... as a DRAWING. I tried to draw a shape on it.
It was not very effective and melted so it was just buttered toast.
Butter was supposed to reduce the toasting so you could do a design on one face. But it did not work.
 
user3956566
:)
 
Great! Now I have to eat something, too. thank you very much for the calories!
 
Toasted bread is always tasty.
 
@Compass Yes, but I don't have one of its major components. So it's meat loaf with potatoe mash for me.
 
3:17 PM
Does quack overflow actually do anything\
Ah.
It quacks.
 
@Compass Yes. It does what many people need instead of asking on SO.
Stack Overflow already is a good rubber duck itself. :)
 
I asked the duck if I should close the question I was looking at. It quacked once for yes. Quite useful
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3:41 PM
@Machavity I thought one quack meant "no".
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You should report that as a bug
 
no, one is "by land". two is "by sea"
 
@Machavity yes, I'm asking a meta question right now.
 
:\
 
3:52 PM
Oh, I inadvertently deleted it after getting 72 downvotes (but 1 upvote) in 15 seconds.
 
Yeah, I misclicked, sorry. That was meant to be a down vote
 
4:12 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre It's a slow day on Meta for sure
@rene I think we might need to plug the Trogdor project again here. I've tried to pick up some of the slack, but we still have about 450 reviews still needed
 
I found this user which may need a few answers flagged and questions closed.
 
@Machavity Sounds like more people are needed if still 450 short. I can think of at least one good candidate who might be able to spare the time to help out.
 
@Machavity I have discussed this a few days ago in the RO back room and this was more or less the consensus; I think it's reasonable to poke people some more and see if they respond. which is what I have done after the workstate sheet was ready. Give it a couple of days to see if the participants there organize their own backup, if not we re-try here in SOCVR once more.
 
@rene Is that the back room of this room?
 
@StephenKennedy I added a sum to the status page Makyen made. Shows how many overall still need to be done
 
4:21 PM
@StephenKennedy yes
@StephenKennedy I'm unsure how much moderation that room needs but it is close enough to SOCVR to warrant some coordination. But feel free to take that control. It is not that I insist on having a say in what's going on there. It just seemed wrong that so little progress was made which was maybe caused by what I did or didn't do.
 
@rene I wasn't thinking that Rene. I was merely wondering if there a secret room I don't know about :)
@rene I do have one thought after looking at the stats. Might it be better to recruit somebody else to do the questions assigned to Jon? He's surely busy enough with moderator duties
 
yeah, that is certainly one we can look for a replacement
Moderators: they are just unreliable ;)
Or maybe they have found better things to spend their time on. Like outside, with family ...
 
@rene what, Grant linked to a user profile, and no reaction? I'm jealous.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm not on top of things
 
4:33 PM
@rene Just come back from doing that myself :) Wasn't outside for long though as have a nasty cold
 
@rene anyway, no need to do anything for this particular user, no sign of fraud. He'll just get question banned in a few, no need for flagging, let the system decide.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Are you interested in helping out with the Trogdor process?
 
@GrantGarrison hey, would you mind not linking to user profiles and certainly not invite us to go over their profile. It is not the way we want to moderate.
 
@StephenKennedy I don't remember what it was already. why not?
 
@rene Is that OK?
 
4:35 PM
sure
Just take him to Trogdor
 
"take him to Trogdor" looks like a quote from a "Conan" movie.
 
You are in a movie ...
 
4:47 PM
@rene Ok.
 
dur
@StephenKennedy What thoughts do you want? I'm sure, I can provide some.
 
@dur I noticed your cv-pls on some Spring questions so wondered if you could tell me whether that is a suitable dupe target or not
 
dur
@StephenKennedy Sorry, it was a misunderstanding. I will look at the questions and give you my thoughts,
 
omg
bark thins are amazing snacks
 
dur
5:10 PM
@StephenKennedy The question is about Spring Boot, but the dupe target is only about Spring Security. Hence there could be a difference (I don't know), but I would still vote on this question (off-site requestion, too broad).
 
@dur Tyvm. Good point about the other close reasons.
 
5:28 PM
@Compass Wots a 'bark thin'? Sounds like a whippet or lurcher.
 
they're basically pieces of chocolate with bits mixed in
dark chocolate though. The good, bitter, stuff.
 
@Compass Flagged for being too yummy
 
I think it was 2 for $7, which may seem expensive, but dark chocolate is expensive =w=
and these are REALLY BIG HUNKS of chocolate
 
@GrantGarrison I didn't notice you had a pending edit prior to casting the final closure vote
 
@StephenKennedy I just typically run Magic™ Editor on posts if they look bad. I don't really care if it gets rejected because of cv.
 
5:45 PM
@GrantGarrison Did you flag for closure? If so, then your edit won't put it in the reopen queue when/if approved.
 
Ah an edit pushes to reopen "provided the editor has not also flagged the question or voted to close it". Didn't realise it included flagging to close vs an actual close vote.
 
@Makyen I edited it before it was closed.
 
@GrantGarrison The time that matters is when the edit is applied, not when you suggested it (to the best of my knowledge). This means that edits suggested prior to closure and approved after closure will put the question in the reopen queue, unless there is some reason that the edit is disqualified from doing so.
 
stares at stock market
Well, carp.
 
@Compass Be careful. It might stare back at you
 
5:59 PM
what if we called it SOCVR QUANTUM
that removes the negative connotations, doesn't sound like a trash heap, and makes sense as a destination for where all of the stuff that doesn't belong enters the alternate universe.
 
@Makyen I did flag. However it was rejected as well.
 
also wow, rene had some great ideas going there :thonk:
or... SOCVRMA owo
Not spam, not great question
 
@Compass I only copied those of @MartinJames
 
ah
:clap:
SOCVR Quantum though.
 
@Compass feel free to add it A bit punny is OK
 
6:12 PM
You can add it for me if you want owo won't be able to use github till go home
 
@Compass I can wait till you're home. It prevents that people assume I'm an endless name generator.
 
6:45 PM
@rene lol, I've been plagged by rene:)
It's kinda an honour, like an MBE only better. I'll put it in my CV: 'even rene uses my stuiff' ;)
Ne need to tell prospective clients that it was only irreverent room names.
 
@MartinJames time to put the cucumbers in the composter (look above) :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre OK, I added a shovelfull.
 
Where's Olaf for god's sake :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Quite full. I don't think I can have another cucumber until some hours.
 
@Olaf Oh - that means you are out of votes:)
Never mind, Dr. Phil zapped it.
 
7:04 PM
@MartinJames No, just out of temper for seeing too much rubbish again,
 
7:25 PM
=w=
 
I'm out of close votes :(
 
Ron
R&d does not live where I am :(
 
Another sale from 'Elon's Pre-Owned Vehicles, Never Beaten on Price. Best Deals in Florida' is due in an hour:)
 
@Ron welcome to corporate culture.
unless R&D is actually bringing in revenue, good luck pushing it.
 
Bah, who needs R&D. Just let's sell cheap stuff expensive!
 
Ron
7:39 PM
@Nkosi Will take some adjusting.
 
Can a RO withdraw my last CV-PLS request (for "No MCVE")? The OP edited to include code.
 
1 message moved to SOCVR Sanitarium @EJoshuaS, per your request
 
Thanks
 
Ron
Where is all the elegance SO talks about? It must be really well hidden irl.
 
@Ron Are you asking where all the modern code is?
 
Ron
7:48 PM
Yes.
Modern and elegant. All I see is whizz bang legacy.
 
why would lsb_release -a show n/a at codename? Did I manage to half upgrade the server or so?
this is what I would expect: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/177205/…
 
quack overflow
2
 
8:07 PM
Hi all! o/
 
I think the troll is back.
 
Ron
o/
 
Just voted at Code Review mods election... 3 positions for 6 candidates.
those guys get 50/50 chance with me since I voted nearly at random.
 
8:08 PM
@BaummitAugen Let's see how that develops.
 
pinging yourself?
 
Linking messages, basically.
 
hey "constituent" badge from CodeReview :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Nearly random? For me it was fully random. More random than rand()!
 
Since we don't know the guys, and I (almost) don't see the point of reviewing other's code, I picked the ones with the greatest "candidate" score. I'm sure all 3 will be elected.
 
8:11 PM
ha
 
Ron
I want R&D, creativity and something new everyday when I go to work! Wakes up.
 
Technically voting the highest score is a valid reasoning
 
>20k on codereview come on!! guys have spent years on the site. The few answers I made took me a looong time.
 
Ron
What's that? A requirement?
 
@Ron not at all.
adds to the "candidate score".
 
Ron
8:13 PM
Pity you haven't won. You'd be a good mod.
 
@Ron I think you only get that in startups/company's that can afford to upgrade. It takes a lot of time, effort and money to upgrade an legacy code base. It is doubly so if the code wasn't even standard complaint to begin with. There is a lot of C++98/03 code out there that violates even those standards.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Why vote if you don't know them?
 
Because democracy says I get a vote. It never said I had to use it wisely ;)
 
@NathanOliver "We can now compile Amazon search with gcc5. We can't turn on C++11 yet of course, everything breaks horribly."
Not that long ago.
 
8:17 PM
That's my right. I tried to put myself in the minds of SO voters at the last election. It worked quite well.
 
If you ask me, abstaining is a valid vote option
 
I almost abstained, then I said "what the hell"
I also read candidates nominations, and the 3 I picked weren't bad. Didn't go too deep and didn't visit their meta posts...
@NathanOliver exactly.
@Ron thanks. I'm not done with that mod thing :)
but the most important is: the ones which won seem OK.
 
They all seem pretty okay to me tbh
 
@Ron don't worry, rene & his friends are trying to get me a job on the side :)
 
Obligating someone to vote is not democratic.
In an election where no one gets a sufficient number of votes to exceed 50% of the voter cap is a good example.
 
8:21 PM
@Justin yes. Not like the (initial) list of SO candidates if you ask me. When I read some blurb of a (withdrawn) candidate, I said: "why not me"?
 
Obviously in modern politics unlikely to get everyone to vote, but in stuff like the Papal Election, that's how it goes.
 
Oh, I just changed my vote. I picked the 3 other ones :)
 
Lol
 
(aprils fool of course!)
 
Ron
Waffles.
First day blues. Carry on.
Maybe I should call this off and do what matters in life. Which is chasing and using the gold dupe hammer.
 
8:37 PM
Amen.
 
Ron
Haha.
 
@GertArnold OP is in a correctional facility?
 
Maybe, Or married.
 
@GertArnold lol
 
@GertArnold The post is quite old. We only request recent posts or ones which had recent activity. Has there been recent activity?
 
8:50 PM
@Olaf Sure, and counting.
 
> The answer to "how do I shoot myself in the foot" is "don't do it", not "make sure to have a doctor present".
4
 
@GertArnold Sorry, my bad. No idea why, I I honestly did not notice the "NATO" in your request. Forget it.
 
@Olaf That's OK. It was a bit burried after all.
 
In other news: yet another successful SpaceX launch has just concluded
 
@JohnDvorak Although it seems the latter is common practice everywhere these days.
 
!!/alive
 
@EJoshuaS plz send teh coffee
 
Apparently, I was a little too slow :(
 
10:15 PM
@Nkosi Looks like everybody left. Not much closing activity atm. ♫ Where have all the powers gone?
 
:)
@GertArnold I stepped away myself for a work out, only just returned.
 
@Nkosi O yeah, sometimes you gotta get some rest from this frenzy here
 
10:35 PM
Anyway, time to hit the sack now. One less :)
 
11:33 PM
 
11:59 PM
Actually, the question has been made clear by comments. The poster is asking if using a pirated copy of Windows would be safe.
 

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