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user4639281
12:12 AM
I'm on a roll: meant to type "set" but typed "dry"
 
@Undo Yeah, that's probably mostly down to feature creep and dealing with edge cases. If I had to do it again, there's probably quite a bit that I'd re-write.
@TinyGiant I guess you need a new function: shiftKeyboardRight(int distance) (negative distance sifts the keyboard left). :-)
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
I wonder if that is something I could fix with type checking...
 
user6655984
2:24 AM
I don't think the tag was really meant for that.
 
 
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4:38 AM
@Makyen I installed alpha release of CVRG script and seen link available for deleted Q/A marked as spam or R/A, is that behavior by design? Should undelete request link be hidden for posts like those?
 
4:50 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto It, currently, only looks at the open/closed/deleted/undeleted status wrt the text that is used for the button to open the request dialog. The default request type is set upon open, but the user can select whatever is available in the drop-down list. For example, perhaps you want to set a revisit for a post that was deleted as spam to check to see if it's been undeleted, or the spam flags cleared, in response to a mod-flag you raised (that's an actual example of how I've used it).
The validation of the request is done while the request reason is being entered (you'll see warnings/information and/or errors) and upon clicking send/save. You will have to confirm to send if there were warnings. Errors will prevent sending. That validation does not currently take into account that a post was deleted by the Community user and/or a moderator. It would be reasonable for it to do so, as an undel-pls request on such a post would have no way to be
effective (i.e. other users couldn't act on it). So, yes, there should be some text under the post as the button to open the dialog. It may be desireable to have it show something other than undel-pls.
I've put adding returning an error from validation for undl-pls requests on posts deleted by the Community user or moderators on the to-do list.
 
@Makyen As far as I know, the posts deleted by Community user divided into roomba'd questions (RemoveXXXXXQuestions) and spam or R/A posts. I want to know how the CVRG script treat them differently.
 
5:14 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto The script doesn't, currently, treat them differently. Treating them differently is up to the user. The script doesn't send requests, except at the user's direction. The user is expected to exercise judgement in their actions. The purpose of validating requests isn't to be an exhaustive check on what's permitted, or not permitted. It is intended to remind users of issues which they may not have noticed and prevent a limited set of actions which are known to not be acceptable/useful.
It's reasonable for the script to not permit sending of a post that's been deleted by the Community user as spam/R/A, or deleted by a moderator. I've added including a check for that to the to-do list.
 
 
2 hours later…
7:42 AM
stackoverflow.com/a/53203235/2469308 - looks self promotion without disclaimer
 
Waffles™
 
@Makyen ninja'ed :p
 
7:54 AM
^ does the new cv-pls userscript offer any help with creating these?
 
@tripleee Yes.
 
@Makyen oh thanks, I guess I will want to try it
 
8:20 AM
@tripleee For questions it does: cv-pls; del-pls; reopen-pls; undel-pls; "revisit (in 2 days)"; "revisit (in 11 days)"; "revisit (in N days)"; reflag VLQ; flag-pls spam; flag-pls offensive; !!/report; !!/scan; !!/rmblu; and !!/reportuser (currently it also shows reflag NAA on Q, but that's a bug (fixed)). For answers it does all of those except cv-pls and reopen-pls (reflag NAA isn't a bug on answers). For suggested edits it does: review-pls.
 
thanks, trying it now
 
8:44 AM
Can I have your opinion on whether this rust design question should be closed and whether softwareengineering.stackexchange.com still looks like the best place for such questions ?
 
9:02 AM
@DenysSéguret it is now closed and it might fit on SE.SE but I'm not regular there. They do have an relatively active main chat room with helpful regulars so I suggest you ask there if you ponder on flagging for migration.
 
@rene thanks
 
yw
 
9:23 AM
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Q: Should we put [restful-url] to rest?

Cassio Mazzochi MolinThe restful-url tag page doesn't say much. It only has the following except: Representational state transfer (REST) is a style of software architecture for distributed hypermedia systems such as the World Wide Web. And two URLs in the description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Represent...

 
9:49 AM
Some Triage / H&I reviewers might want to chime in here
 
user9277191
 
@VerNick It would have to be undeleted by high-rep users first (I can't even see the question). Do you know why it was closed, and what action you have taken to correct the problems with the question?
 
@MichaelDodd it is discussed on meta
 
@rene Right, think I've found the meta Q, cheers for letting me know
 
@VerNick please go over our FAQ first before to try to request help from this room.
@MichaelDodd Moderators are human which is evidenced by a puppy, a ninja, a pair of glasses and a Lost Mind ...
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10:43 AM
I just rejected a edit suggestion, but the edit suggestion popped right back up after being rejected, with the same timestamp, and identical (as far as I can tell) to the original edit suggestion. Does anyone know what might have happened: first edit suggestion: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/21356614 and second one: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/21356615 ?
 
@SurajRao Yeah, thats what I thought too, weird
 
@ewolden some glitch.. the edit ended up submitted twice..
the timestamp on both is the same
 
@SurajRao That is odd, it's like the edit was double-posted. Possibly raise as a bug?
 
could be a network glitch. I don't think the SE software has features to prevent handling the same payload twice
 
11:26 AM
 
you can always ignore the comment I just posted without having to point it out ;) @rene
 
@IslamElshobokshy No, not really. Your message has now become part of our transcript and we have a strict rule that we moderate content only. That means that meta commentary about users is simply off-limits here. Flag it for a moderator to handle. Don't bring it up here.
 
@rene "off-limits here" is this written in a chat FAQ?
 
@IslamElshobokshy yes, here: socvr.org/faq, specially rule 9
 
@rene sure but there's nothing written about commenting what happened, I mean, it's not forbidden as you say to point it out, as I'm not asking to judge the user.
 
11:39 AM
I read that message differently. I ask you to refrain from doing so in the future.
 
@rene I'll never ask to judge a user that is of course off-limits :) But unless it's specifically forbidden to leave a comment about what happened I don't see a reason to stop. I'm not looking for a fight here, just trying to understand ^^ You might have read it differently, but that was not my intention, to each his own understanding of words I suppose
 
Just don't mention what a user did or didn't do, it doesn't matter for the content being close worthy or not.
 
@IslamElshobokshy I agree with @rene, by making that comment alongside the request, it gives the appearance that you're commenting on the user (in your case "rude", "raged in comment"). To use a British idiom, "play the ball, not the man"
 
@MichaelDodd @rene I didn't mean it in that way by writing my comment, but if it's seen that way I'll refrain - cheers guys have a nice day!
 
@IslamElshobokshy No worries, just try to stick to the standard reasons when requesting to close a port
 
11:46 AM
@MichaelDodd a whole port?
 
@rene Southampton, Dover, Feilxstowe, Hull, take your pick :)
 
Dover sounds like a good option
 
12:04 PM
@RiggsFolly already deleted even
Interesting: if a post is deleted with a pending edit on it, it cannot be edited. The suggested-edit is out of the queue; and clicking the edit(1) below the post says "This post has been deleted; no edit suggestions are available"
oh, weird, apparently the edit did get approved, after deletion of the post
 
SE Magic
 
@ekad "Which API would be the most ideal to consume?" Whot? :D
 
12:45 PM
It's probably not spam, just someone posting a link to their website instead of posting their code
 
yeah, that was the consensus between me and @tripleee as well
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 5 mins ago, by tripleee
i.e. stupidity trumps malice
^ sorry for being blunt (-:
 
I can take that
 
But if stupidity trumps malice, what trumps Trump?
 
Sorry for smoking a blunt (lights up a blunt).
 
 
1:14 PM
@MichaelDodd Trump seems more entertaining than the latest season of House of Cards
 
@Paul Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes
 
@Machavity @Paul same reason "The Thick Of It" ended up being cancelled, it predicted stuff that ended up happening in the 2010-2015 coalition Government (e.g. "omnishambles") so the lead writer declared that he couldn't come up with satire that could outdo what was really happening
Though 4-5 years down the line those days don't seem so bad anymore...
 
Any Jquery people around? Is this suitable to reopen now?
 
@Adriaan It's not MCVE. Block #1 is what he has, Block #2 is what he wants
 
1:30 PM
Morning
 
@NathanOliver Mooring
 
Plop
 
@Machavity so basically still no?
 
@Adriaan Yeah. I left a comment explaining what he did wrong
 
@Machavity köszönöm!
 
1:37 PM
@Adriaan Gesundheit :P
 
koko kaakaokoeko
 
@tripleee making hot chocolate are we?
 
^ probably close as general computing so they don't think rewording the question would make it acceptable (sry, already flagged as req myself)
 
GC, so that they dump it on SU? :P
 
lesser of two evils; at least the close notice will not quite so directly suggest that the problem can be easily fixed
i.e. we say maybe ask on SU or somewhere but check with them too
 
1:48 PM
We could be really evil and point them to HardwareRecs.SE ;)
 
OK, I like that
Wait... 4G router ... as in a private GSM tower?
 
using 4G instead of ADSL I would imagine
 
^ that
 
Oh, a GSM client
 
Close this as a typo? The OP called the function to get data from the map before they called the function to populate the map
 
2:04 PM
@NathanOliver If the OP admits, you must close it
 
If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit?
 
Every glove fits every hand. It's just a matter of providing enough force.
 
@JohnDvorak this seems like a thinly-veiled OJ Simpson joke....
 
and if that force breaks every bone in your hand, or tears apart the glove?
 
Then it'd fit perfectly, no?
 
2:09 PM
You must hold the glove in a way that provides physical support during the fitting process
"every bone in your hand" is excessive. At worst it should tear some ligaments as wrist bones become repurposed as finger bones.
 
2:32 PM
@SmokeDetector f proper attribution
:44510996 k
Well that last SD report was quite charming...
 
So many people writing answers like "TRY THIS <code>" without any explanation whatsoever :(
 
I have an auto comment for that
 
The least I do is This code should be self-explanatory even for beginners: <unintelligible gibberish>
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@Adriaan that is what I tell the compiler whole day ...
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@Adriaan Usually an autocomment, and sometimes a downvote depending on how bad a day I've had
 
2:42 PM
I propose a new bot in SOBotics: Didn't work, a bot that leaves that comment on Try this answers.
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A few minutes and 1,587,841 comments later ...
 
Grrrr.... No reply on one of my answers for 10 minutes, someone reposts it, scraps the part explaining the deeper issue and how my answer doesn't solve that, appends utter nonsense, upvote + accept within a minute
 
@ErikvonAsmuth sounds like a sock
 
@Adriaan Nah, the part of the answer they copied was the incredibly obvious part. More like an OP that wants to stay ignorant about what's the actual issue and rather has an answer that doesn't address it
 
If a DBA was angry, would they flip the tables?
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lol
If you have a table in your DB named Mike and you want remove it, is that a Mike Drop?
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A group of DBAs walk into a bar. There's a lot of them, so they join some tables to make room.
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@NathanOliver So long as you don't drop the 'base
 
^ edit out website url?
rest seems fine
 
3:13 PM
Sure
@gunr2171 from reddit Three DBAs walk into a NoSQL bar. Soon after, they leave - they couldn't find a table
 
: )
Though I figured it would go: Three DBAs walk into a NoSQL bar. Soon after they were kicked out because the hipsters inside didn't like their old-school ways. There were also some arguments about MongoDB being "web scale".
 
Chuck Norris is responsible for multiple databases servers being formatted. One does not simply drop Chuck Norris
 
@gunr2171 And that's why you pipe your data to /dev/null. It's fast as hell
 
I'm actually already watching that video again right now
 
3:49 PM
Ugh, something happened and my visited links are showing blue again in chat
 
not orange?
 
nope
 
blue is the new orange
 
Let's hope they aren't moving the cheese again. I don't like blue cheese
 
3:51 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth oh come on... a nice bit of Stilton is lovely :)
 
Ron
o/
 
I like blue cheese on a burger
 
Can't argue with me, I'm Dutch so I like Dutch cheese above all
 
@Nathan yeah... or on a nice bit of steak :)
(although I normally go for peppercorn sauce for steaks...)
 
@TylerH Sounds like the settings for the URRS may have been reset. There's nothing intended in the script which should have done that.
 
3:53 PM
If it is a nice stake I don't put anything on it. If it is a regular stake I go for A1 sauce
 
@Makyen Yep, disabling your script in ViolentMonkey changes it back to orange. Line 1636 maybe the offender?
 
you eat stakes? :)
 
@JonClements Don't you? I'm pretty sure I've seen some wood chips on your muzzle ;)
 
Oh... that's me having a good old chew on entire trees.... don't tell baum though... don't want 'em to be scared of cutey wutey puppy me... :)
 
3:58 PM
@TylerH I'm not sure we're looking at the same line. Do you mean this one.
@TylerH Have you tried just changing the setting in the options popup back to not showing visited links as blue in chat? Is it not permitting you to do so?
 
@Makyen Yes I mean that one. I just took a glance and grabbed the first instance of :visited... there may be others
@Makyen I... haven't tried that. I must have forgotten that it's an option
Unchecking the box in options fixes the issue; I guess that's what you mean by "settings have been reset"
I assumed you meant the updated script code itself had applied a CSS reset unintentionally
 
Sorry for the miscommunication.
 
No problem, no problem at all... *puts away pitchfork, tar, and feathers...*
 
@Adriaan You were probably right, it got a bit more suspicious since the answer got deleted within seconds of the accepted mark being moved over to mine after it got a couple of downvotes. It's in the hands of the mods now.
 
4:17 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth Heh there's a clue in the profiles. Anyway yeah leave it to the mods.
 
4:46 PM
@Machavity Had to do a double take when I saw this one -- your doppelganger has been found! stackoverflow.com/questions/51934319/…
 
@TylerH argh, people answering with "This is a 100% POB question"... Then don't answer :(
 
@TylerH Oh yeah, that's my evil twin
 
@Machavity I managed 16 actors btw :)
 
@Adriaan yeah, frustrating... that one is in the queue already under the burnination but I guess a cv-pls won't hurt, either
 
(was bored for a little bit so took your suggestion about digging into memory-alpha so took its dump and worked on that...)
 
4:53 PM
@JonClements lol that was more work than I wanted to do so I just gave up
 
I figured that... Still think the two though off the top of your head is better than cheating :p
 
@Adriaan I had someone yesterday say "You are absolutely wrong and I'm absolutely right" to me. Their answer was "Yes it was possible".
 
5:24 PM
@gunr2171 Let me guess; it was someone in a meeting? :-P
 
:D
na, it was this train wreck (10k only)
 
@Machavity Oh so there's a tag too
 
ooohhhhhhh
 
Magic Overflow, heh
 
user4639281
5:31 PM
I made an overflow of browsers in a browser... it's overflowing
 
user4639281
TGFFB
 
@TinyGiant Cool
 
Sweeet
 
user4639281
I think it's pretty cool.
 
user4639281
It'll open up a lot more possibilities for userscript and stuff.
 
user4639281
5:39 PM
Lots of work to do though
 
@TinyGiant Yo dawg, I heard you like to close while you chat, so I put some chat in your closing so you can close while you chat
 
user4639281
:P
 
user4639281
I can add a browser (which is the tab set with the views) to the set of browsers with browsers.add(new Browser())
 
6:05 PM
@rene the way Brexit is going (or not) - you might have your wish :)
 
@JonClements hah!
 
@JonClements I heard on the news that some 'boats' go in and out of the 'port' at Dover. Further details would be appreciated.
 
@StephenKennedy fake news! fake news!
 
6:31 PM
@Adriaan can a RO trash this please?
 
user4639281
6:50 PM
@Makyen you might like this part: with Magic Overflow I can set the 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' on response headers from chat.stackoverflow.com such that GM_XMLHttpRequest will be unnecessary
 
user4639281
We could also automatigically populate the Request Generator room list with the current rooms of the chat browser
 
user4639281
And I can make blank pages for scripts like Magic Tag Review such that it doesn't need to clear the page first, and I can modify the response text of the request to the /review page to insert the HTML for the Magic Tag Review option, such that it won't load after the rest of the page loads.
 
@rene @makyen do you know how I could setup a markup based draft proposal for the FAQ at CodeReviewCommunity/SECRCVR based on the actual SOCVR FAQ?
I don't like to start with the rendered HTML :-/
 
you could clone our github repo and host it on github.io
there you have to intro jekyll ....
 
@rene But your github repo doesn't reside at the current address. You have a different domain. Maybe I am just too dumb for that kinda stuff :-P
 
7:04 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ use this one: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/… and see pages.github.com
 
I well know about github.io tho, I did use it for starting a book already: github.com/makulik/C-PlusPlus-Compact-for-Beginners
 
Ok, the retired repo is all you need then
I had a local copy running with jekyll but that is not really needed
 
@rene ty a lot. I'll go through that.
@rene Just FYI, the newly established room seems to work out quite well so far. Not those big problemz like you faced with SOCVR in the past it seems.
 
awesome
@πάνταῥεῖ our current FAQ is here: raw.githubusercontent.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/… (in markdown)
 
@TinyGiant Looks interesting. Is it a native application?, a browser extension?, something else?
 
user4639281
7:12 PM
@Makyen Electron app
 
user4639281
It all runs off of node.js and chromium
 
oh no I'm out of close votes! There is an easy NRE post that I can't close. starts to hyperventilate
 
user4639281
You will be able to (not currently implemented) install chrome browser extensions such as TamperMonkey or what-not. At the same time I'm going to create a sort of "native script injector" which will allow you to install scripts that modify the UI, add browsers to the set, etc., as well as intercepting requests and such. Basically you will have complete control over everything
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Are you looking for the Markdown source for SOCVR FAQ?
 
@rene Sure, you've established a good and efficient protocol that already was adopted for other sites, you and the crew have established a bunch of useful tools. Re-usability of software is a big concern and you did a fairly good job about that. Here in bavaria we usually say: "Not grumbled is already enough lauded", but that was seriously worth a lauder ;-)
@Makyen Yeah, that was what I am looking for.
 
7:16 PM
@TinyGiant Sounds cool.
 
user4639281
Hopefully. It's all built off of highly experimental technology, so yeah...
 
ready for production in 6 to 8 weeks ...
 
@SmokeDetector I went abuse; is rather weird
 
user4639281
@rene :)
 
7:24 PM
electron? "highly experimental technology"? Na, say it ain't so!
 
user4639281
lol, well it's heavily predicated upon Electron's webview tag, which Electron itself says is highly experimental
 
user4639281
> Warning
Electron's webview tag is based on Chromium's webview, which is undergoing dramatic architectural changes. This impacts the stability of webviews, including rendering, navigation, and event routing. We currently recommend to not use the webview tag and to consider alternatives, like iframe, Electron's BrowserView, or an architecture that avoids embedded content altogether.
 
user4639281
But... I mean... It works... Soooo....
 
[tag_cv-pls] GMTC, also too broad for other reasons stackoverflow.com/questions/53214824/…
 
@rene @Makyen I am currently going over the source for the basic adaptions, would it be OK to use the same graveyard dev/null targets, or should we setup our own ones?
 
7:38 PM
@gunr2171 Hey, they only just discovered that electrons are round
I'd say it's still experimental
 
7:51 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ you need to have your own on chat.se. Pick better names. It is easy ....
 
@rene OKeh, so I'll need to setup other rooms at the chat.se. How should I setup the privileges there? BTW /dev/null isn't such a bad choice IMO ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ you create a room and make all the RO's also RO there and make the room gallery
 
I am such a darn newb about all that, I appreciate any help :P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ what're you working on? :)
 
AHHHH I JUST TRIED TO CLOSE ANOTHER QUESTION, ONLY TO BE DENIED. This is pure torture.
 
7:59 PM
@gunr2171 You should buy the Outdoors expansion pack if you're out of content
It's not amazing but it's something, at least...
 
@JonClements A SOCVR like room for SE Code Review: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/85306/…
 
Oh... cool... surprised that didn't already exist...
 
Problem is I'm currently on the "Sit and wait for performance tests to run" quest, so I have to baby sit the loading bar.
 
@gunr2171 find a coworker to do office chair hallway jousting with?
 
crap, halloween just pasted. That totally could have happened.
as a work sponsored event
 
@JonClements They already have their 2ndMonitor chat room, but that doesn't follow a concise protocol, and might lack efficiency for the increasing popularity of SE Code Review.
We've got some users attracted already to use the room, but there are unclear things still, thus I am trying to setup a FAQ based on whats agreed here already.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ just go the info page of the chatroom, tab access: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/41570/…
 
@gunr2171 next year
 
@gunr2171 it's okay... it's okay... take a few deep breathes... :)
 
8:21 PM
@rene It seems I am really stupid with github.io. What would i need to setup the github site for proposing my adapted draft (I am pretty sure there are some things I've overlooked): github.com/CodeReviewCommunity/SECRCVR/blob/master/FAQ
 
8:34 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ you need to name that file faq.md for starters
and that github already has an active io repo
you need to work with them to include your FAQ here: github.com/CodeReviewCommunity/CodeReviewCommunity.github.io
 
That looks quite better now, ty for the hint :)
 
yw
 
I believe we could adopt most of the SOCVR FAQ but there are several points we gotta adapt for the site specifics. My draft goes over some basics, but is by no means complete.
 
user8682794
8:54 PM
@rene can folks with no closing votes privileges post so many cv-pls requests?
 
@PearlySpencer We usually discourage them about doing this. @gparyani
 
user8682794
@rene there's already a considerable backlog today and this doesn't help
 
If this is about misusing this to earn flagging badges, don't worry, I already earned the Marshal badge a while ago from organic flagging before joining the crew here.
No one's ever complained about it, including multiple ROs, as long as the requests are legitimate.
 
Just act within the stated policies please. There'
s a part in the rooms FAQ addressing this behavior.
 
user8682794
@gparyani this is about making a concrete and fair contribution to the group. your requests require 30 votes from others while you put in zero.
 
9:00 PM
@gparyani You'd simply better stop!
@gparyani Is already known as a heavy troublemaker regarding off-topics, I'll probably extend my ignore posts for this chat room as well :P ...
 
@gparyani flooding cv-pls is not okay, so spread them out and keep in mind that we request that for every cv-pls you close vote 5 other questions. As you can't close vote yet you have to rely on other regulars to cast their close votes on your behalf. Please be considerate when relying on their limited resources.
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@K.Dᴀᴠɪs can now be removed
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I assume that was what you want?
 
Yup - thanks
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Lets be nice, shall we
 
9:13 PM
 
@rene Okay, got it.
I generally refrain from posting requests here unless they're on the verge of being dismissed as "Looks OK" or "Requires Editing" in Triage.
 
Ah, triage. I have some hard feelings about it. I don't think even after the change it got any better - I just got back into the H & I queue the other day and saw crap that was worse than the original crap that I was complaining about in the first place.
 
@gparyani As long as you add to your rules: and don't post more then 2 cv-pls in a row to SOCVR and limit it at that you should be good.
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs yeah H & I is only for die hards ...
 
@rene Everything in H&I right now is a one-line question: "How can I do x"? And somehow it get's past triage with a 'requires editing' instead of 'unsalvageable'
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Oh wow, I never though they would change the guidance. It only took 2 years to change one line of text, not bad.
 
9:29 PM
@NathanOliver Yeah I saw it's been in issue in meta for a while, didn't think it'd change either tbh.
 
At least people can't use the excuse that the queue says it's okay anymore.
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs ...and then the "low quality, doesn't deserve edits" option in H&I simply sends it back to Triage.
 
I still think the pop-up would have been better for education when someone clicked requires editing for the first 10 or so times.
But that's just too intrusive
 
Also, if Triage marks a question as "Looks OK" or "Requires Editing", it disputes any close flags on them and starts aging close votes, even though they may be valid.
 
They just need better audits. There should be enough data now to get requires editing audits.
 
9:32 PM
@NathanOliver Or have some mods go into H&I - and see who put those crap questions there and review-ban them
 
@NathanOliver Speaking of which, the LQ queue still gets question audits even though real reviews there are only answers.
 
Unfortunately they need to rewrite their code base to fix that. No one working there actually knows how the whole system works and all the original coders are gone. It's really ironic
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs That's a bit harsh for a first offense. IMO, it's much better to try education first. Keep in mind that, for years, the instructions explicitly stated that "requires editing" included edits from the OP. So, people are largely doing what they were instructed to do. It's not their fault that they don't know the instructions changed, when it hasn't been brought to their attention.
 
@NathanOliver And the website has a huge userbase of coders. That's what's ironic.
Maybe put out a silver bade for assisting coding the website or something lol
 
From what I hear it should be a gold badge ;)
 
9:38 PM
@Makyen Which is why I suggested the pop-up that no one wanted
Then there's no excuse
@Makyen And a 1 day review ban really isn't that harsh. I was review banned for something that was later actually decided I was correct in my response. Now that's harsh xD
 
In this case, the review ban system is also the warning system. It's not uncommon for a user to get a 1- or 2-day review ban just to get their attention on a bad review. Moderators generally don't use the mod message system for reviews. — animuson ♦ Oct 27 at 16:45
 
@gparyani I understand that. However, I consider it inappropriate to penalize people for doing exactly what they were told, for years, to do. This is a systemic problem. You don't solve that by penalizing your volunteers for doing exactly what you had been saying to do. It's also not reasonable to believe that people will see the change to the instructions when the text is A) behind a click-to-open, and B) people don't re-read instructions for things they've been doing for a long time.
Sure, once some effort is put into education, a penalty is appropriate, if people continue to perform the action contrary to what they're now instructed to do.
 
10:28 PM
@Makyen stay away from certain other network sites if you think that's harsh...
 
user4639281
10:55 PM
Oh this is awesome. I've set the browser overflow library up using type verified event emitting attributes. All of the events bubble up to the top element, such that you can listen to get, set, and verify events from the lowest level on the main instance and respond as required. Nuts.
 
user4639281
It's currently at 1179 lines of code for the base library and 78 for the extension library, but w/e
 
user4639281
raise a hand if that didn't make any sense
 

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