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12:05 AM
Gah. Is there a userscript to disable the links in the close dialogue?
@QPaysTaxes I'll keep that in mind the next time feel like trial-and-error programming. =D
(Which will probably be soonish.)
 
Is this closeworthy?
 
I guess...
 
12:22 AM
aaaand just like that 23 del-votes gone. sigh. lol
 
Dumb mechanic.
It does not even speed up deletion of stuff in the end.
 
nope and makes no sense skipping over queue just to save dels
 
leave out the word "stupid"
 
^^^
 
> The minimum character requirements are in place to guide new user towards writing useful questions. Instead of making your post worse while trying to work around those requirements, you should stop and try to actually fulfill our request for your own good.
 
12:36 AM
lol
but it sound more PC. flies with honey.....
 
I like it. They are like kids. 1-rep and such.
 
rofl
which encompasses alot of different types
i see your point
minus the shame
 
@QPaysTaxes If they don't respond to advice from the help center and established users, the question ban will do the rest. If they refuse to use the information we give them, nothing we can do.
 
only if you hover over the user name
 
12:40 AM
@QPaysTaxes I wasn't talking about rep.
@QPaysTaxes Doesn't matter, it's more than the first time poster's for sure.
Also, I personally had poor results with the more direct approach, a lot of people got defensive really quick. The "help center article" style appears to work better empirically.
 
12:59 AM
@TylerH There are only 2 untagged questions left (filtered to not show locked questions).
 
@Makyen Deleted both.
 
@BaummitAugen & @QPaysTaxes \o/
 
1:23 AM
Off to bed. Bye! o/
 
l8r 0/
 
1:59 AM
Just made my first synonym request on meta :)
 
 
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3:07 AM
anything that involves moving parts (disk) is slow in computing
yep
 
 
2 hours later…
5:13 AM
quick googling suggests they use PageDown github.com/ujifgc/pagedown
could be obsolete information of course
github.com/ujifgc/pagedown/blob/master/… reading the comment looks like you are probably right
 
6:07 AM
"I am new to Json file"
 
@JanDvorak It's a PHP question
 
@SamuelLiew It's tagged with both
do you know the PHP version of the duplicate?
 
@JanDvorak done
 
6:32 AM
@Olaf You might want to repeat this request. You have a typo ([cv-cls] instead of [cv-pls]) that makes it not show up in the requests search list. If you do, you should probably ask a RO to remove the one with the typo.
 
@Makyen closed now though
 
There we go
 
@tripleee :-) That's an even better way to deal with it.
 
@QPaysTaxes the linked duplicate seems more conclusive
 
6:39 AM
Plop everyone
 
7:30 AM
@JarrodRoberson You've already made that request - chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/36279777#36279777, do you wish to have the previous one trashed since the question changed?
 
7:51 AM
\o
 
8:15 AM
somebody flagged a comment in the C# chat room as harmful and it seems that it actually really is -- the SO link redirects to a site outside the network. I'm guessing you guys would know where to discuss this, or even point to an ongoing discussion?
ah no, it's stackoverfiow.com
 
8:50 AM
@4castle ah.. Felix was running a copy (and is during the GMT timezone) so looks like we need to change the threshold now..
@fire location?
 
@AshishAhuja I'm running on FelixSFD/MacBook
 
@fire threshold
 
@AshishAhuja The threshold for this room is 35 (higher thresholds report more posts).
 
@4castle ^ it seems to be alright.. ping me if it happens again
 
@AshishAhuja I think the update to the lastest version succeeded last evening and the configuration is now synced via Redunda
 
8:52 AM
ah, nice
 
@Makyen Yeah, that's what I did. I saw the queue dip down and hit the 'save edits' button as quick as possible :P
 
9:07 AM
Morning o/
 
\o
 
@Seth \o
 
9:32 AM
I'm still not even halfway to 1k in but I'd like to attempt some cleanup -- okay to post a few duplicate CV:s here in order to accomplish that? Or should I approach the Python room instead? Or as well?
 
user3956566
9:58 AM
 
user3956566
 
10:21 AM
@YvetteColomb good one
 
user3956566
@tripleee thanks trip :D
 
10:32 AM
(stopping now)
@YvetteColomb agree
 
Nice spot, there seems to be a lot of these historic, strange questions hanging around...
 
@Mistalis could you put a [tag:cv-pls] next time before you ask a question to be closed? It helps our userscripts and bots to track them
 
user3956566
@AshishAhuja tyvm
 
@YvetteColomb It's gone already o,o
That was rather quick.
 
10:47 AM
@Seth jon'd :p
 
user3956566
@Seth si so, sy son slements Sshhhhhhhhhhh
 
Ohh, the puppy was hungry.
Shankfully se sidnt see sus sas sorthy srey :)
 
user3956566
so srue, so srue O>O
 
10:59 AM
cool how did that get removed?
 
@AshishAhuja Forgot this time, my bad :)
 
np!
You can install the cv-pls US to make it easier
 
Hi all
 
I have to go now, you can ask one of the regulars if you need more help
afk
 
any moderator here ?
 
11:08 AM
@IntelliJAmiya Not for a while, no
 
@rene what's the weekly close event still doing in the Room Topic? That's no longer happening no?
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/42997689/… Edited by the OP, now it's fine!
 
11:27 AM
Morning
 
@IntelliJAmiya @EdCottrell is here now
 
@NathanOliver o/
 
^ OP deleted the code in it's code pen
 
How can one deal with this: http://stackoverflow.com/a/42986513/2233391

It's a comment by the OP but posted as an answer... I guess officially that makes it NAA but it seems a shame to delete it?
 
@Henders the usual procedure is to flag as NAA but leave a comment to tell them why
a moderator can convert to comment or if it's pertinent you can edit it into the question
 
11:33 AM
Okay, thanks. I'll check that out :)
 
@tripleee it's too long for a comment. I'd say ask him to move it to the question, or as an addendum to sacha's answer.
 
@Adriaan yeah I guess
@tripleee bump, anyone, any guidance on that?
 
@tripleee o/
 
@tripleee I'd say go to the Python room, but that's also because I don't vote on duplicates. My rationale is that I don't know any language well enough to determine whether it's a duplicate except MATLAB, and for MATLAB I'd ping one of my buddies with a hammer to single-vote it.
 
@Adriaan ok, thanks!
@EdCottrell @IntelliJAmiya was asking, not sure about what, maybe they got it resolved already
looks like they left anyway
 
11:40 AM
o/
 
@EdCottrell sir , Have a look here stackoverflow.com/questions/42988265/…
@EdCottrell sir , voting irregularities .
 
@IntelliJAmiya Please do not ping mods in the room to do mod actions. If you want a mod to look at something, mod flag it.
 
@NathanOliver did it
 
@NathanOliver 1 hour ago .
 
11:48 AM
Be patient. The mods have a lot to handle. If there is a problem it will be handled in due course and there will be no difference between fixing it right this second and a few hours when it is dealt with.
 
It will get handled. A couple hours for them to process the flag is not a big deal as it is not really harming the site. If there is something hinky going on it will all get wiped out.
 
@IntelliJAmiya Lol give them more time.
 
okay okay .Thanks for inform . Thanks
 
I have a mod flag out there that is 22 hours old and I am not worried
np
 
11:49 AM
Often enough an employee has to investigate, that can take a while.
 
Woot. I function ;)
 
@NathanOliver Gratz!
 
Ha, nice :p
 
11:51 AM
Congo
@NathanOliver Move ahead
 
ahead of what?
 
More BADGES :)
 
I have the score for bronze, but I need 18 more answers. Such expert. XD
 
I just want the badge :P
 
Ah. I am actually going through old answer, 5-10 a day, and making sure all the tags are right and the edits are good. A little badge reclamation ;)
I wish you could search for questions you answered
 
11:56 AM
What for?
 
Am I wrong here? OP thinks that this Q is on-topic, read my second comment as reply to that
 
Well like show me all questions I answered that are tagged with a specific tag, or the Q contains some keywords
 
I want #Legendary Badge :P
 
@NathanOliver user:1234 doesn't do it?
 
@NathanOliver Tags just work.
 
11:58 AM
@M.A.R. That will show you your questions or answers. It doesn't let you search the questions of questions you have answered
@BaummitAugen Oh, that is cool.
 
is:a doesn't help?
 
I think I misunderstand what you were trying to do :p
 
Ideally I want: search for "in my lambda" in all questions for which I have an answer
 
Ah
 
12:05 PM
@NathanOliver Hmm, is that really that common to be unGoogleable effectively?
 
user3956566
@FOX9000 spam
 
user3956566
how do we find our deleted posts?
 
@YvetteColomb 'view recent deleted posts' or something in your profile
 
@YvetteColomb user:me deleted:1 in search
 
user3956566
@BaummitAugen ah yes thanks
 
12:09 PM
@M.A.R. IDK how I would google that
 
12:20 PM
@NathanOliver is ''in my lambda'' in the question title?
And is your answer still there and not deleted?
 
@M.A.R. Most likely it is not in the title but my answer would still be there.
 
12:34 PM
"The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!"
 
That yam is still not good enough I guess...
 
Yeah
@Henders made some space for you
 
"Another edit is awaiting approval for this post. Further edits cannot be submitted until the pending edit is reviewed."
WOW.
Thanks anyway :P
 
12:42 PM
shrug
 
@Machavity Don't make me spill my coffee on my shirt, please ;)
 
Jan 25 at 9:45, by rene
Get some rep, will you ...
 
Maybe I should just get 2k rep instead. I saw a motivational picture about that the other day, @NathanOliver
3
 
:)
Yeah, get some repz you slacker
 
on it
23xp to 1k :O
And I found a good question to answer later :D
 
12:48 PM
:)
 
is highly competitive, if you have expertise in something slightly less popular (and with PHP, we use that term with some trepidation) maybe go dig there
 
@tripleee It's not so much that it's competitive, as much as people are far less likely to upvote stuff. Took a long time to get the upvotes for gold
 
@tripleee A lot of the answers are not great though so I like to try and write really good answers instead.
Maybe I should learn an obscure language :P
 
@Henders thankless but commendable
 
Come to C++. I've got 48K+ rep in 2.25 years
 
12:51 PM
@Henders that has its drawbacks as well
in #!/bin/bash, 6 hours ago, by tripleee
(been there, done that -- I am the top rep user and my accrued rep is 57)
 
Additionally, comes with the benefit of some of your low-effort answers showing up in the newsletter.
 
I got nearly 1k in nearly 4 years. :P
 
@Henders Don't do it. It's a trap
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@Machavity I do like cookies, though...
 
@TylerH All that's left now is locked questions, FYI
 
12:55 PM
mmmmm, those look good!
 
True. I think it's lunchtime now :P
 
1:33 PM
Guyses, can I get more info on your process of burninating a tag?
 
/me to sales person: Call me back in 6 to 8 weeks
 
@M.A.R. socvr://burnination
 
/proc/burnination *
 
2:02 PM
@Machavity yep
@NathanOliver you can unpin the Delete Candidates message
 
done
 
Moderators can archive chat rooms right?
 
@IntelliJAmiya @triplee Thanks; that is being handled. But like @NathanOliver said, please just use flags for this in the future. That way, we actually see it faster, and any mod (not just the one you pinged) can handle it.
 
2:32 PM
@EdCottrell o/ hi Ed
haven't seen you in chat in a while
 
that just proves how ninja he is
 
I'm sure there's a ninja dog somewhere who would dispute that :p
 
And an immortal ninja.
 
Idea: Mod cage matches, how many users can each mod nuke?
 
@NathanOliver We all know Martjin would win that. The other mods would eventually need to sleep and eat
 
2:43 PM
:)
 
user3956566
Questions asking for frameworks are also off topic. If the close reason is not 100% correct, it will not be reopened to be closed with a more accurate reason. An off topic question is off topic. There's a meta discussion on that somewhere. Brush up on the how to ask section of help to check out what's on topic. — Yvette Colomb 6 secs ago
 
@YvetteColomb weeps over misvote
 
user3956566
@Machavity collects tears in jar to tip on your keyboard
 
user3956566
mwa hahahahaaaaaaaaa
 
user3956566
2:54 PM
dammit I've been stopped from reviewing too many IP requests
 
@TylerH o/
@TylerH I'm actually not sure why I showed up as being in here this morning, when people started pinging me. My computer was shut down at the time.
 
user3956566
stupid stupid frackel rassle spam bot filters
 
user3956566
@EdCottrell I may as well ping you now you are actually awake and online :D
 
@YvetteColomb What is 'too many IP requests'?
 
user3956566
@Henders I've been reviewing and refreshed the page. I guess I've been making too many requests of the site
 
user3956566
2:58 PM
It's happened befoere
 
Wow, didn't know that was a thing :O
 
@Henders SO just hates Australia
 
well, it was populated by criminals ;)
 
@Machavity Man, that's what they decided to do when they were bored?!
 
user3956566
Feedback from SO team
 
user3956566
3:06 PM
> You may want to look into whatever user scripts you have running and make sure they space out their requests a bit more. You weren't rate limited because of your review behavior, but rather because something on your device requested the post comments from 14 different posts all in the same second. You might want to consider spacing that out a bit more rather than sending a load of requests all at once.
 
user3956566
Anyone had this issue?
 
@EdCottrell 10 minutes prior you had said "o/" to Tripleee so the new user (IntelliJ Amaya) might have just noticed you on the transcript as a mod w/ a blue name and reached out
 
oops
wrong window
 
@YvetteColomb :p
 
user3956566
@EdCottrell :D night Ed \o ships in the night and all that
 
user3956566
3:16 PM
night all \o
 
@TylerH No, I mean before that. My "o/" was a response to a ping that came in when I wasn't even awake.
 
@YvetteColomb o/
 
@YvetteColomb o/
 
user3956566
 
Maybe you're sleep-chatting? :P
 
3:17 PM
@YvetteColomb you wouldn't be you if you hadn't done that. :P
 
@Adriaan you all might have decided that the events could go, I have high hopes to reinstate them in the future... we're not done with that topic ...
 
@rene aw c'mon. The room meeting said no events, and that means no events.
 
3:43 PM
Hiya
 
o/
 
Hey BR
That's me, breaker of thingz
speaking of breaking things
 
@YvetteColomb This definitely sounds like a poorly designed script. In a single request, a script can request the entirety of up to 100 questions, with all answers, comments, comments on answers, etc. If the script is doing 13 separate requests in one second, something is wrong. Even if it needed them from 13 different SE sites, which would require 13 different requests, it still should have spaced them out one after the other, instead of all at once.
 
@NathanOliver That is cleaning things.
@YvetteColomb Yes, a LOT of times.
 
toe-may-toe, toe-mah-toe
 
3:51 PM
@Machavity Err, I hope you are aware that there's one and only Larsoner. :D
 
Anyone know of a chat room dedicated to the SE API?
Scratch that, if I just read the docs like I tell so many people, I would have read my answer clear as day..
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@NathanOliver that'll do it! Thanks!
 
Is serial upvoting a thing? :/
 
np
@Henders Yes
 
3:58 PM
@Henders yus
 
@Henders yep
 
@Henders yeah
 
I've been serial upvoted a couple times
 
@Henders yessir
 
I've had 5 upvotes today...
I never get upvotes
 
3:59 PM
Just, 5...
 
and within the last few hours I've got 5 :/
 
Normally if it was serial it would all be done in the same minute or two.
 
Hmm, but it should be reversed normally in 24 hours or so?
 
@Henders You want it to be reversed?
 
@BhargavRao If it was unfairly gained rep then yes.
 
4:00 PM
What are the criteria for reversals? More then X number of votes in Y minutes?
 
If it is indeed serial voting then the script should reverse it. If it does not just be happy about the extra rep
@MattClark We will never know. If we did we could subvert it.
 
Fair enough ;)
 
I guess. I just hit 1k is all and it's kind of marred it if it get reversed overnight :P
 
Maybe you should go answer a couple questions to increase the likelihood of staying above 1K ;)
 
@nathan @tyler regarding too many reports by FireAlarm yesterday: Felix was running the main instance of FireAlarm yesterday, and thus the threshold was at 45 instead of 35. We now have redunda file integration so this room shouldn't get those many reports once again
 
4:03 PM
@NathanOliver Yep :)
 
@AshishAhuja Oh, OK. I thought I was seeing higher scores.
 
@MattClark AFAIK three quick votes are usually reversed, though that isn't 100% accurate. I've seen two quick upvotes/quick downvotes usually pass the filter
@NathanOliver yeah, 4castle pinged me saying that the filter score was more on few reports. Then I understood why the number of reports by fire were unusually high yesterday
 
@Henders checking
 
Cool.
 
@BhargavRao Thank you :)
 
4:07 PM
@AshishAhuja Cool. Just for the record I did notice a slight uptick but I had been thinking about ignoring the user for a while anyway. I never act on them, so they're effectively just noise to me. But I appreciate the effort put into it and the service it provides :-)
@Henders I will take them off your hands gladly :-P
5 upvotes would give me an extra delete vote :-)
 
@TylerH thanks!
 
I'd love the upvotes but I spent 4 years gaining rep fairly, I don't want the last 13 to have been gained illegally so I drop below 1k again :p
 
@Henders Checked, it's outside the mod tools atm. Looks like it'll be reversed, if it isn't, use the /contact page
 
@JanDvorak yeah, I might as well have stepped into my own trap. oh well ...
 
@BhargavRao Okay, thanks. How long will it take to be reversed? (how long shall I leave it until I contact)
 
4:11 PM
@Henders 24 hrs since the first upvote.
 
FR: change the room description
 
@BhargavRao Thank you :)
 
room topic changed to SO Close Vote Reviewers: This room is for support and discussion about reviewing, and coordination of site-wide cleanup efforts. Read our FAQ at socvr.org [discussion] [moderation] [review]
^ pending approval other RO's
 
The 10k tools are called, moderation tools, the mod tools are called moderator tools.
So [moderation] tag seems apt. :)
 
@EdCottrell PS thanks for the room freezing
@rene I think we need to have a meeting to determine whether we should invite @gunr2171 to the meeting to discuss adding that description
 
4:16 PM
He'll appreciate that, I'm sure
 
In our office, we once had a meeting to reduce meetings.
4
 
@BhargavRao Did you have a meeting before that to set the agenda?
 
Nope, thank god. :D
 
4:29 PM
@Makyen: Thanks for the info, but it was too late.
 
@FireAlarm location
 
Awesome. Someone made a mobile Raspberry Pi computer: n-o-d-e.net/zeroterminal.html
 
@FireAlarm location
 
@NobodyNada I'm running on FelixSFD/MacBook
 
@Fire notified
 
4:34 PM
@NobodyNada You will be notified of reports tagged , , or , blacklisted usernames, or misleading links.
 
yay, file synchronization works!
 
@Olaf no problem. My mentioning the request resulted in bringing it to other people's attention. The question was closed, and the request removed (due to being complete), very shortly after I posted the message (definitely < 5 minutes). I only saw the issue because I was testing a script and wondered why that request did not show up in the search results.
 
Is it kosher to vote based on which answer got accepted? What if the top voted but not accepted answer is mine?
 
@Makyen Yes, I rely too much on syntax highlighting it seems. Some typos just slip by without that. Modern times ...
@JanDvorak Vote on what?
 
user1593881
Hello all, do your research before signing the contract.
 
4:39 PM
vote on a question
 
user1593881
My pro bono advice.
 
@RawN what did you do?
 
user1593881
Became a code monkey.
 
My advice to you all: People who give advice, always would have done something wrong.
 
@BhargavRao Or made a single mistake and want others to learn from said mistake
(but you're not wrong)
returns to the shadows
 
4:40 PM
@JanDvorak You mean DV/DV depending which answer was accepted? Well, as the votes promote a question, a bad accepted answer can make it less helpfull.
 
@Olaf Yeah, I've relied on spellcheck for a very long time. My spelling has gotten better over the years, but it has always been poor.
 
@RawN Which contract? What are you talking about?
 
Thanks. What if the accepted answer isn't bad per se, but the other is still way better (easier to understand and more general), and the accepted one got accepted because it guessed the asker's mind better?
 
user1593881
@Olaf Job contract.
 
PSA: Go review, the queues are increasing in size.
 
4:43 PM
@Makyen Well, mine got worse after I starting using the computer instead of a mechanical typewriter. Simply because you can edit too easy.
 
the what is increasing in size?
 
user1593881
I now eat a lot of bananas and climb a lot of jungle trees.
 
@BhargavRao Need to cap H&I cough grumble
 
@JanDvorak And the "better" one is your's, I suppose? Problematic. Without knowing the details, I'd retract to a neutral position on the question (no vote), but maybe voted on the answer, hoping OP will notice once they answer-votes show he is wrong.
 
The vote split is 57 mine, 13 accepted
 
4:48 PM
@JanDvorak Link?
 
mornin- oh wait, a bit late for that
I'm finally back to normality
 
Hi finally back to normality
 
@gunr2171 Depends on your time zone
 
That's Mr. Normality to you
yeah, 5:45am to 4pm for 4 straight days sucks
 
4:52 PM
@gunr2171 yea, already having dinner
 
@Olaf Yeah, being able to easily make edits/corrections certainly results in me thinking through what I'm writing as I type it, and after, rather than putting much more thought into it prior to getting it typed. While it might feel like it is worse, because we see the typed words/sentences and corrections, there was quite a bit of the process which existed with mechanical typewriters (e.g. thinking, writing it out longhand, multiple drafts, etc.) which is compressed down to type and edit.
 
@JanDvorak I don't see the accepted answer is that bad indeed. After all it tries to elaborate a bit more how it works. It would be a better answer than your's if it had better examples.
As it stands, I actually would stay neutral for all and just let it be. Life's not fair - that's life.
 
@Yam no
 
@Makyen The problem is imo we don't think ourt sentences well over before we type them, but while typing or even after, making the written more of a "draft". That way we loose our mental capabilities to think complex ideas without writing every part down first. Problem is that once a sentence is writte we forget about part of it after some more sentences. (and that has also effect about how we speak, which is even more volatile.
 

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