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6:00 PM
sooo
my verizon modem keeps resetting every half an hour late at night
what gives =w=
 
Ha. Just read Verizon took a $350 million discount on yahoo due to the hacking
@Compass How long has it been doing that?.
 
2 or 3 days
it's not like a full power reset either like unplugging
i'll DC for 5 seconds, long enough to terminate any active connections, before everything is fixed
I've dropped out of probably 10 or so active matches because of it :(
 
hmm.
Have you rebooted it?
 
yeah
reset to factory settings
let it imagine a life without power
reset my UPS
it just dies. I watched the net graph, and it communicates, then 5 second blackout, then back to normal. Verizon is sending a tech out.
 
jeez. Just happens late at night?
 
user4639281
6:11 PM
Stack Overflow is like... sllloooowwww
 
13 mins ago, by NathanOliver
data transfer speed or rate of questions?
 
user4639281
See, it just updated for me now and all that stuff just came in
 
user4639281
Now, it's running great
 
must have been off for lunch ;)
 
6:14 PM
yeah it only happens at night afaik
it's annoying =w=
 
Its not network congestion is it?
 
user4639281
^^ Also typo / no repro
 
@TinyGiant that was one pointless edit that bumped it
 
user4639281
Yup
 
im the only power user at my place, and at 1am, no one's watching anything
its probably not network congestion
vigorously shakes router
 
6:21 PM
@Compass Cute avatar BTW ;-)
 
Pusheen is always cute.
 
@MikeMcCaughan Too much chit-chat. CV and done. Some just don't get it.
 
@Olaf Yeah, I gotta learn to shut my pie-hole ;)
 
@Compass I assume you don't have access to it?
 
6:31 PM
i have access to the modem
 
@MikeMcCaughan Don't worry, I also should follow my own advice more often
 
it is connected to a coax which I believe links either outside or to the basement
no idea why it was set up like this but im not one to complain about having a direct wired line in my bedroom
at least i dont have to use wifi or powerline
 
@Compass So what do the logs say? Maybe you can leave the line-dignostics graph open for some time or syslog the logs to your PC?
 
how do i read modem logs?
i have the line graph open
it shows 0 transfer coinciding with loss in connection
the router appears to go red as if it has no signal and then reboots
 
@Compass Cable-modem? I thought it was DSL. So it could be an issue with someone else on the coax disturbing. Is that a new phenomenon? did someone move into/out fo the building?
 
6:35 PM
Verizon FIOS
 
@Compass No idea, it is specific for the modem. My FritzBox provides quite detailed information (ven more than OpenWRT does).
 
its one coax for the whole house
and no one but me is up at 1AM because im an old person and I don't have a bed time like a 4 or 6 year old :V
sorry I'm an old cat =w=
 
sry, got to go. (we don't have verizon here, was just a tip, maybe you find some service/diag menue=)
@Compass Chances are good I'm an even older guinea pig :-)
 
hmmm i will try cleaning the vents
 
@QPaysTaxes It's even questionable if time really exists :-P ...
The only observable thing is constant change. And our brains work in a kind of sequential manner.
 
7:21 PM
@QPaysTaxes The question is totally misleading. Merging the answer won't add value to the dupe.
 
sorry cleaning keyboard :D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Wait - didn't you say that tomorrow already?
 
@Olaf I said it now :-D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That's what it makes you think. In fact, there are indicators that we act before we notice we are going to act (sic!).
@πάνταῥεῖ Who said that?
 
@Olaf I'm consistent and whole contained all the "time" ;-)
 
7:28 PM
@QPaysTaxes No. In the common usage. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic
@πάνταῥεῖ The Kantaki tell different.
 
@Olaf Turing machine principle most probably. Our brains are poor devices if it comes to explore the real physics of our multiverse.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Actually there is a simple explanation: There is a lag between decission, physical acting and logging. Logging takes the longest time, thus the discrepancy.
 
@Olaf Yeah, logging (observation) influences behavior.
 
@QPaysTaxes Our brains are very parallel.
 
@QPaysTaxes To some degree may be
 
7:32 PM
Our brains have millions and millions of pattern recognizers, and each of them takes a long time (a tenth of a second IIRC), but they all run in parallel.
 
@QPaysTaxes Why that? I wanted to point out that it is not a typo or wrong grammar. Was added specifically to certain language-lawyers (and not meant to fork another thread:-)
 
@QPaysTaxes then what do you mean by "multithreaded?"
 
@QPaysTaxes Yes, there are things like co-functions scheduling
 
@QPaysTaxes A natural neuronal net is inherently MT. Just at a different lever than clasical computers. That's a logical result from it operating asynchronously.
@NobodyNada Actually pattern recognition already uses many parallel elements, called neurons. The recognition is kind of higher-level software already.
 
@QPaysTaxes "neural" is the most common term, but "neuronal" works just fine:
> relating to a neuron or neurons
@Olaf that's true, but by that logic a CPU is inherently parallel, since they have billions of transistors all working simultaneously
 
7:37 PM
@QPaysTaxes Well, you certainly can digest and think abot a program. Also you blood-pressure is regulated and thousands of other processes controlled by your nervous system
 
@QPaysTaxes "commonly used" != "correct"
 
@Olaf And just to note: Our software is actually wetware :-P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ ...what?
 
Context-spwitching is just a matter of the consciousness
 
@NobodyNada You don't know Rudy Rucker?
 
7:38 PM
@Yam That guy is mad now
@πάνταῥεῖ nope
 
@NobodyNada You should read these novels, it's intriguing to expand your concepts of consciousness.
 
@QPaysTaxes Ok, I'm out. I'm not in the mood to have every single term dissected.
 
@Olaf Said the pathologist, and goes for their lunch Leberkässemmel :-D
 
@QPaysTaxes There are quite a few results. But even if there were none, just because no one's ever said something before doesn't mean it's incorrect. Neuronal network is a very uncommon term, but that doesn't mean it's incorrect.
 
7:41 PM
Cars are called "motor vehicles," even though "engine vehicle" would be more accurate
 
@NobodyNada WEll, that's bascially true. But it does not do reasonable work. And most CPUs are synchronously clocked, which makes them inherently sequential. There are interesting implementations of CPUs (e.g. ARM) with asynchronous logic. Quite interesting, but not ready for practical use.
 
but you can limit the search to only "neuronal network"
@QPays I think you need to back off a bit here -- the guy's really mad, and engaging with him is just going to make him more mad.
 
@QPaysTaxes another reason to walk away
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Pizza actually. Sorry, I'm not really good on (you must be German to get this:-). The ceiling is falling on my head.
@QPaysTaxes There is a time for everthing. And I already wrote, it is a matter of the dose. Currently, I can hardly type due to RSI, and unless it is really unclear, just please let it be.
 
7:49 PM
> Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you. -- Proverbs 9:8
 
@Olaf Sounds like kind of a celtic concern :-D
 
@QPays sorry if you don't want me quoting a proverb from the Bible, but that was the first thing that came to mind
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That would be the sky. And that's more a Gaul concern (specifically in a small vilage, surrounded by ...
 
@QPaysTaxes you mean Hebrew? :p
 
@Olaf And that's what I call dissecting :-D
 
7:52 PM
@QPaysTaxes that's true
 
@πάνταῥεῖ C'mon, Celts and Gauls were (are?) quite different tribes.
 
@QPaysTaxes I know :D (what's wrong with NKJV anyway?)
 
yep
 
@NobodyNada I'm certain they had no RSI when that was written. AFAIK there were no computers.
 
@Olaf Pleeease, I don't want to go back to that deterring latin lessons I had over 30++ years ago. Latin never was my favorite course. I'm not sure these tribes are really different.
@QPaysTaxes Well, cesar left some important documents (written in latin) about these tribes, and we had to translate that shit.
@QPaysTaxes Knowlege finally ...
@QPaysTaxes Vem a laus amoris, pax drux und goris.
 
8:01 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Huh? We learned that in history, not latin. But a certain south-east german tribe has strange rites anyway. :-P
 
@Olaf Holladiö
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I seem to have left the latin course at the right time then. Although I heared "De bello Gallico" is a good reading (there are translations, though).
 
@Olaf "there are translations, though" We used them a lot. Little yellow books :-D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I know them well. Too bad our teachers knew them, too.
 
@Olaf Of course, they noticed if you copy these translations literally :-P
 
8:08 PM
afk for lunch
 
@NobodyNada Leberkässemmel?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ As I said, I left latin early enough. But there was English and French and German of course...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I think I'll eat chili.
 
@NobodyNada Yummy
 
But - to be honest - We were lucky. Our teachers picked mostly interesting books.
 
8:09 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Indeed
 
@NobodyNada chili? chili - what? Con carne, sin carne, some from a delivery service? Self-made?
 
@Olaf I never learned french, italian or spanish but at least I can communicate quite sufficient with these native speakers.
@Olaf You are curious dude!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ The 1.5 years latin actually helped me a lot with all foreign languages.
Too bad I noticed that only after I finished school
 
@Olaf Hmm, not that much with Hindi or Japanese ...
 
@QPaysTaxes Babelfish&co don't count.
 
8:12 PM
@QPaysTaxes Ti --> Tu
 
@QPaysTaxes Westside Story? Oh, no wait that was spanish, wasn't it?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I never needed them, so yes, it did.
@πάνταῥεῖ Stella!?
 
@QPaysTaxes and where the heck does she live :D, it's not proper Italian, its like Ya for You :D
probably dialect, but the writing is always tu
 
@QPaysTaxes Should we remind you about that blue bible phrase again? @Petter lives in Italy IIRC
@Olaf Don't remember the male part, but probably yes.
 
@QPaysTaxes Oh, I Thai.
 
8:15 PM
well I'm still Swedish, so no expert, but yeah the dialect and spooken Italian can sound different then the written.
 
@QPaysTaxes Must be kinda hard
 
@PetterFriberg Isn't that true for almost every language spoken by more people than in a single small village?
 
@Olaf Probabably
 
I just have to go some 100km east in Germany and I hardly understand the natives.
 
@QPaysTaxes I searched on internet to see if I could find some Ti used as Tu but hmm nothing google.it/…;* you better use Tu ; )
 
8:18 PM
@Olaf I listened to the speech of the scotland prime minister regarding the referndum today on the radio. That wus funny :-D
 
while instead te vs tu is more interesting since it becomes grammar treccani.it/enciclopedia/tu-o-te_(La-grammatica-italiana)
 
@Olaf con carne
 
@QPaysTaxes Which is even true for many of the native speakers. What some people here consider "German" is just horrible. And I don't talk about slang.
 
@QPaysTaxes Strange rome, I have heard that more around Venice...
is she born in Rome? or North of Italy
 
@NobodyNada That's how it should be. Hmm, not a bad idea for one of the next days.
@QPaysTaxes That's the theory. Prctice is different, though. It is not just the USA having their Hillbillies. Problem here is they sometimes live next door ...
 
8:23 PM
@NobodyNada Interesting disclose, you Killa! (calling vegan military forces)
 
@QPaysTaxes Yeah that's correct, yeah it's used more in the north
 
@πάνταῥεῖ A friend of mine has scottish ancestry. When we talk some days, I tend to adopt his accent. I like it, though.
@QPaysTaxes erm ... you should get a new world-map.
@QPaysTaxes hopefully ... indeed ;-)
 
@QPaysTaxes Yeah and just next to Seattle
 
All streets lead to Rome. I once tried that. Result was I needed a new car.
Compared to the distance to the sun, we are all living next door to each other.
@QPaysTaxes Tell that to the people on Helgoland who drowned.
@QPaysTaxes Do tell!
@QPaysTaxes Yes and as we all know it was Ezio who fixed them.
 
@QPaysTaxes Yeah by now you will arrive always at Seattle
 
8:30 PM
@QPaysTaxes No.
 
back
 
front
 
@Olaf I like that accent too. It's much comparable to bavarian vs. standard german. Have some nice scottish friends as well.
 
Is it wrong to correct someone's grammar?
 
@QPaysTaxes The average american education level?
 
8:32 PM
@eazimmerman : Normally not, but today I'll bite. ;-)
 
the post says "this is my code but i want to update marker on map dont working this code please help me"
I'm just wondering if it is wrong to revise the sentence to be more readable
okay
there is code
 
@eazimmerman It's fine if you don't change the meaning of the post.
 
ah, good point
 
I smell a onebox.
 
@Kyll uh, that is one too
 
8:36 PM
Plop everyonez
 
Plop @Kyll!
 
@gunr2171 What is?
 
an image is a one-box
 
yes.
 
@eazimmerman Didn't I remind you about no one box please already today?
 
8:38 PM
uh, in this room? eazimmerman has 7 total messages here
 
@Kyll qolq!
 
yep
 
user4639281
 
What if they make LifeAlert for switch statements?
Help, I've fallen through and I can't get up!
 
user4639281
Here, have a break... of this kit kat bar
 
8:43 PM
: )
 
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@gunr2171 You must have the same size screen as me
 
1920x1200
 
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That's the one
 
@QPaysTaxes it might be a little morbid, but I suppose their target audience for that slogan doesn't have a very wide age bracket.
 
8:45 PM
@TinyGiant youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo Product placement!!
 
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lol
 
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@Undo I've always wanted one, but that slogan kills it for me
 
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I don't need one. I just want one
 
user4639281
Just so I can be like "Punk'd! I could'a gotten up at any point... now help me up off this floor you hooligan!"
 
8:48 PM
Somehow I think telling the paramedics that they are "hooligans" won't be the best of ideas
 
@gunr2171 Kafka's Käfer?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ no idea what that is
 
@QPaysTaxes You're too slow
@NobodyNada I tend to speak in german riddles, I know ;-)
 
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@QPaysTaxes Three days sedated where I don't have to listen to my wife? Sign me up
 
user4639281
8:54 PM
Well, at least the sedation would make it less... yeah
 
user4639281
damnit, there's no way to win
 
user4639281
Where's the "this question sucks" close reason when you need it?
 
user4639281
@Yvette I just pushed an update for Thing Checker. It should work everywhere again.
 
@TinyGiant what's Thing Checker?
 
Sounds like an XKCD name
 
user4639281
8:58 PM
This. It's an experimental (don't use it) script to defeat the audit system that I wrote a while ago which broke with the new site design.
 
@TinyGiant I've often thought it would be easy to make a script to detect audits, but...whoa, you actually made it?
 
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@NobodyNada Yeah, it all revolves around the fact that there is an isAudit field in the JSON response for each task.
 
...what?
 
user4639281
Yep
 
user4639281
The client side logic depends on it.
 
user4639281
9:01 PM
If the script finds that isAudit is true, it fetches the actual votes so you can see if it is a known good, or known bad audit.
 
user4639281
Technically you could do the same thing by fetching the votes for every review task, and comparing the actual score to the displayed score.
 
general computing?
 
@JanDvorak Nah
 
user4639281
Technically bash is on-topic
 
9:08 PM
I don't think ot/gc works on that one, but I cast unclear
 
@TinyGiant Agreed!
 
user4639281
I don't have a bash shell handy, but shouldn't it just be to remove the quotes?
 
So it's not a regex then
 
user4639281
of the group though right?
 
bash programming questions are about programming, no?
 
user4639281
9:12 PM
Ohhh, I see
 
user4639281
so find ./ -name { *.ex, *.exc } would work, no?
 
user4639281
9:27 PM
wut?
 
user4639281
The difference being?
 
find searches subdirectories recursively
 
9:47 PM
good grief, the Android question is already turning into an NAA cesspool
I just realized the CV requests scripts don't catch it because of my FireAlarm link; I'm sorry about that
@Tiny it's too old to edit, but if you want to trash it I'll post another one
 
@NobodyNada at your service
 
@rene thanks!
 
yw
 
morning
 
9:59 PM
 

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