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user3956566
12:16 AM
is rene around or any .NET developers?
 
12:31 AM
I just spent a good 30 minutes on research and writing for an answer that likely won't get any feedback because I took too long to write it :/
 
@YvetteColomb .Net dev here.
 
user3956566
not necessarily true. It takes time for answers to get a lot of upvotes
 
user3956566
@Nkosi ok.
 
@AndrewLi If the question was good, it will get feedback (meaning precious rep ;) ) eventually.
 
user3956566
 
12:33 AM
Otherwise: Welp, if you are going to rep farm mediocre questions, you better be fast. :P
 
user3956566
I'm having trouble running a ps1 script from my pc, it's the first time this had been run on a different pc from the original developers
 
user3956566
I'm in windows 10. And I'm looking at this thinking. hm, wondering if I need an older version of .net framework
 
@YvetteColomb And are you saying that the script errors like in the provided link. just to clarify.
 
user3956566
@Nkosi yep it's the same issue as that question, but the accepted answer is not working for me
 
user3956566
I'm on the verge of posting a new question
 
12:37 AM
@YvetteColomb ok hold off a lil bit while I familiarize myself with it.
 
@BaummitAugen Well, I did get an accept
 
@YvetteColomb give me an idea of what the script is doing. is it by chance anything to do with msbuild
 
user3956566
@Nkosi I think I've worked out i need to add the registry key, but not sure what version to put it at
 
user3956566
It's missing
 
user3956566
@Nkosi yes
 
12:52 AM
@AndrewLi So you wrote the most useful answer, now watch it rise to the top over the months or years! :)
 
!!!
 
@YvetteColomb Am I able to post a link here for you to check or is that off topic for this room? please advise
 
user3956566
@Nkosi I started a new room with you. Did you get the ping?
 
Does roomba delete old questions that have <0 score, but has an awarded bounty on an answer? stackoverflow.com/q/41719269 I can't find any info on this on meta
 
1:02 AM
The answer has positive score, so it won't Roomba anyways.
 
@FOX9000 ...that was weird, it said "down for maintenance" momentarily
 
I know, just wondering what would happen if a vote was removed from that, or someone dv it
 
Anyone else getting SO Offline for maintenance?
 
I got it momentarily
It seems unusually slow right now, but that might be on my end
 
I don't, but it is quite slow.
 
1:04 AM
Still down mostly for the past few minutes
 
"Investigating an issue with our sites," said StackStatus 2 minutes ago
 
@NobodyNada Odd that the title is not clickable.
 
Yeah I am still getting it.
Loading for me now
 
Looks like someone is playing with the server's power switch.
 
user3956566
Imagine the stress of being responsible to get Stack Overflow back online
 
1:13 AM
@YvetteColomb I don't have to imagine, I just have to remember how it was when I was admin long time ago for a small company's infrastructure. That's enough.
 
#BlameNick
 
user3956566
@Olaf ikr and this is the largest programming website. We all sit with baited breath :D
 
We know - just not sure what's happening yet - it's a traffic issue. Our web tier is up and healthy. We're digging.
 
Darnit Nick :-)!
 
user3956566
!!/blame
 
user3956566
1:14 AM
oh no
 
user3956566
!!/alive
 
@YvetteColomb I just saw one of those stupid i++ + ++i questions for
 
@FireAlarm alive
 
@YvetteColomb ... did I miss something?
 
@Olaf I can't imagine that that's a rare occurrence.
 
user3956566
1:15 AM
@SmokeDetector yes you did, you did indeed
 
@YvetteColomb ikr?
 
user3956566
 
Huh
 
@BaummitAugen Hardly. Stupidity does not extinct.
 
that's weird
 
user3956566
1:15 AM
@Olaf I know! I don't think I'd like that level of pressure
 
user4639281
Why for art thou down for maintenance?
 
@YvetteColomb "ikr" == "I know"? Wht about the r?
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant you have turned Shakespearean. Care to write some poetry?
 
user3956566
@Olaf I know right lol
 
@SamuelLiew Roomba Forecaster: Tells you: Why the Q won't be deleted, when the Q will be deleted, and if down-voting will get Roomba to delete it. You can find the full Roomba criteria here.
 
1:17 AM
@YvetteColomb Just remember: I did not grow up with those acronyms. I'm quite glad I can keep up the overal pace more or less:-)
 
user3956566
@Olaf me neither :) I'm nearly half a century O>O
 
user4639281
@YvetteColomb Oh Stack Overflow, Oh Stack Overflow, Where for art thou Stack Overflow
 
Darn 21st century kids with their hipster lingo
 
@YvetteColomb Nearly? Adding my mother's pregnancy, I already crossed that line :-}
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the arrows of off topic questions
 
1:19 AM
O_O
Stack Overflow is currently under attack. Currently working on mitigation. Stand by for updates.
 
Oh man
It just got real
 
user3956566
@Olaf same, but my son tells me I wasn't walking on the planet at that time, so not on it (which opens a whole can of worms)
 
@Makyen I've already seen both, there is no roomba info on awarded bounties on answers. I'll see if there is any historical data instead
 
I'm so sorry. :(
 
Darn script kiddies. Can't they just play socker with their own balls PCs?
 
1:20 AM
@SamuelLiew Bounties are not a criteria.
 
@BaummitAugen I agree. Blame the tree.
 
@BaummitAugen SHUT DOWN YOUR BOTNET NOW!
 
@NobodyNada My Eyes! No shouting!
 
user4639281
WHAT? WHO'S SHOUTING?
 
I have to go now; see you later!
 
1:22 AM
Bye BYE o/
 
Cya o/
 
user4639281
cya
 
It's too bad I have to miss the exitement...
 
@SamuelLiew But, I assume an active bounty would prevent Roomba from deleting the question until after the bounty period.
 
user4639281
@Makyen You are correct, a question cannot be roomba'd while it has an active bounty.
 
1:23 AM
Well, thats funny: c-tag page loads, but questions are offline. Server infrastructure must be really hell.
 
SO is working for me, just a bit slow. Hmm, never mind.
 
SO is working just fine on mobile. No performance decrease
 
@TinyGiant Get new batteries for your hearing aid!
 
user4639281
@Olaf WHAT? I DON'T HAVE ANY KOOLAID.
5
 
Maybe it depends on the tags (i.e. which server the data is.
 
1:25 AM
The more out-of-context the better
 
user4639281
:P
 
user4639281
Stack is being very slow for me, and I can't vote or flag anything
 
@TinyGiant Here, have some Gatorade then.
 
I think it's back
There's an 8 minute gap with no questions
 
user4639281
hahaha
 
Running smooth again here in Ger.
 
Yeah
 
user4639281
Seems to be running fine here as well
 
Sigh. When you know you can find a dupe, but it would take about as long as OP's entire programming career so far.
 
user4639281
So, my interviews went mostly well.
 
user4639281
1:40 AM
The first one I solved the problem in a way that the interviewer had never seen before, which prompted him to ask me a question that he had never seen solved before, which I solved in approximately one minute.
 
user4639281
The second I bombed because the interviewer wouldn't let me use Array#reduce because he didn't understand it
 
user4639281
The rest were fairly straight-forward, except for the last where the interviewer refused to give me an example of the input data.
 
user4639281
I felt like voting to close his question as unclear, apparently you can't do that in a google interview
 
user3956566
lol
 
ikr. you should also be able to down vote in real life
i find myself doing that when reading tech articles.
 
user4639281
1:43 AM
lol
 
and when friends ask me questions that are too broad and primarily opinion based.
 
user4639281
inorite?
 
I don't have a SO problem. I could not vote any time I want
 
user4639281
I've often told people IRL that they're question cannot be answered in a reasonable amount of time because it is too broad, or I cannot provide an objective answer.
 
lol
 
1:46 AM
@TinyGiant Sad
 
user4639281
@AndrewLi I know. It seems like very few people there have a good understanding of JavaScript. Most of them seemed to have come from a different language and could only get by in JavaScript. I was asked multiple times what reduce did by various interviewers
 
@TinyGiant If the interviewee has to explain what a certain thing does in their code to the interviewer, then they should switch roles
 
@TinyGiant That appears to be true for about any programming language.
 
user4639281
inorite?
 
I don't like how just because they don't what it does that you can't use it
I live off of ES6 functional methods
 
user4639281
1:52 AM
One of the interviewers made me append a comment to the line: [...str].reduce((m, e, i) => (isNan(+e) && m.push([e, i]), m), []); showing what the result should be because they just couldn't comprehend it.
 
@TinyGiant Geez. I'm a teenager with no formal training and I could understand that
 
user4639281
inorite?
 
user4639281
For those who don't understand that, the output would be something like [["a", 0], ["b", 1], ...]
 
user4639281
and it would exclude numbers
 
user4639281
I was really happy with my first interview though
 
1:57 AM
Honestly the interview questions seem so easy but filter lots of candidates out
 
@TinyGiant Map/reduce is not a JS invention. It is actually one foundation of functional programming. IIRC, I learned that with APL/2 in the 90ies (but did not care about it much until I started with Python).
 
user4639281
There was a couple questions that I answered in an unexpected manner that in turn answered the follow up questions, so they had to come up with different questions to ask me
 
@Olaf Yeah. I would expect an interviewer to known ES6 or at least some of it...
 
user4639281
@Olaf Oh I'm sure they aren't. It blows me away that it seemed every time I wrote a reduce loop, no one could understand it.
 
@TinyGiant In Python, a list-comprehension plus enumerate would be the way to go. It would also be much better readable.
 
2:00 AM
Lots of people can't seem to grasp the concept of a callback that is performed on data, or how the accumulator of reduce works
 
user4639281
Yeah python has all sorts of iteration tools that are really useful.
 
@AndrewLi Well, I understand it, but don't like it. Luckily C does not support this anyway and Python provides better ways ^ (map/reduce are deprecated).
 
@Olaf I actually like it a lot, though I agree Python is superior in readability
 
@TinyGiant And the code is readable. Most non-Python programmers get at least the idea of the code. They mostly give up when it comes to the more advanced techniques like meta-classes, though.
 
user4639281
Yeah, but browsers don't run python by default, so I'll be sticking with JavaScript
 
2:06 AM
Just me or is SO's imgur down?
 
user4639281
Oh, here's an interesting little bit. On my flight down here, I met a guy who works for one of the big tech firms (I cannot recall which but I think it was airbnb). He was a muslim and was from one of the seven countries. It turns out that the Victoria airport is the only airport in canada that doesn't have US customs, and San Francisco is the only airport in the US that someone from one of those countries can enter through. He was heading to New York from Ontario.
 
@TinyGiant My browser could (with some addons). But yes, it's a shame they use JS, not Python for website scripting. Python is more on the other side of the socket.
@TinyGiant Strange, news in Germany state the ban was canceled by US courts. That should be country-wide.
 
user4639281
Huh, I don't know. He said he couldn't get into the US any other way
 
It's been blocked by the Supreme Court last I heard
 
user4639281
I wish we could close Stack Overflow questions as duplicates of Meta questions :P
 
2:16 AM
I still wonder what use such a ban had other than aggravate the people affected. Looks like the standard recipe "How to make people upset and turn friendly foreigners into enemies" (is there a less harsh word for "enemies"?)
 
@TinyGiant Then shouldn't the SO question be migrated?
 
user4639281
I was more thinking close voting questions for customer service as duplicates of the meta question about we are not customer service for X
 
@AndrewLi Yes, something like that. But maybe Trump ignores the courts already. Interesting times - I hate them.
 
user4639281
and other such nonsense
 
@TinyGiant Ahh I see
@Olaf Whatever. Let's keep politics outta here
 
2:18 AM
@TinyGiant Why dup-vote? Just close as OT.
Ok, my keyboard is tired. I'll give it a rest. Good night everybody!
 
Bye!
 
user4639281
@Olaf But dupe-hammer.
 
user3956566
2:33 AM
@Makyen I like your script
 
@YvetteColomb ty. I've found it to be quite helpful. Any suggestions for improvement?
 
user3956566
@Makyen not at this stage, I will let you know
 
@YvetteColomb Thanks, I appreciate getting feedback. I'm glad you like it.
 
user3956566
@Makyen nw it's always good to have feedback :D
 
@YvetteColomb Yes, positive and negative. Both help.
 
2:36 AM
I second that. It's great
 
user3956566
@Makyen of course critical feedback
 
Off to bed.
 
Bye!
 
Cya o/
 
night o/
@AndrewLi Thank you too. I'm glad to hear it's helpful.
 
user3956566
2:38 AM
@Machavity the ol' faithful seo posts
 
@YvetteColomb I spent so much time on burninating backlink I let SEO slide
 
user3956566
@Machavity meh, no hurry
 
user3956566
I'm going afk for a bit. see ya later alligator
 
o/
 
!!/alive
 
2:48 AM
@ThomasWard Of course
 
!!/restart
!!/alive
 
@ThomasWard Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
 
!!/location
 
@ThomasWard teward/Aurora
 
YOU ARE LAGGING!
sorry about the noise, SOCVR, it stopped replying in Charcoal
 
2:50 AM
Sok. Half the people in this channel are bots
 
@ThomasWard Weird because earlier Smokey's messages were going to Charcoal
!!/blame
 
@AndrewLi It's Thomas Ward's fault.
 
Hehe. Looks like he's fine now
 
@AndrewLi recent die off
probably something related to the websocket dieoff
@AndrewLi there's three chat sockets
one for chat.so
one for chat.meta.se
one for standard chat.se
 
I guess so
 
2:52 AM
one can die off without the other 2 dying
it's why we added me to the privs. list for Smokey in here and in Tavern
because I already have full code access via Charcoal and Git, and full Review access via Charcoal, so it was a nobrainer to give access to priv'd commands
even if I don't use them :p
besides, if Smokey on teward/Aurora died completely and stopped pinging to MS, then either Undo's RPi running a standby instance, or teward/ESXi running a standby instance would be kicked into active status by metasmoke
 
huh
 
@AndrewLi yeah, when I was fussing around trying to debug another issue, we had a lot of breakpoints on Aurora running in a debugger
so we kinda pushed standby instances into the universe so if the debugged instance froze off (debugger suspends all during failure/breakpoint hit) it'd have a backup
been working well so far.
 
 
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4:07 AM
@KevinWorkman The dup-target has been deleted by the owner.
 
4:25 AM
@Makyen Yeah, I saw that. I'm not sure what you want me to do?
 
@KevinWorkman When a room owner returns, you could ping them and ask for the request to be removed. If you want, you could just pick a couple ROs and ping them to have it handled sometime in the future. No big deal, even if it ends up sitting for the 3 day max.
 
4:42 AM
Hi.. is this some kind of spam? stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/15362747 The user shown as community wiki without even an image.
 
4:58 AM
@suraj It's unclear what it is, given that it is not in English. Recommend deletion.
 
For the record I did recommend deletion. Just wanted to confirm if it was a spam or poor post
 
@suraj Doesn't look like spam, according to Google Translate.
 
@suraj For spam, we would have to translate. Just by not being in English, it should be deleted, as that makes it NAA.
 
ok.. thanks @Makyen
 
5:26 AM
@tripleee tangentially see also meta.superuser.com/questions/12005/…
 
 
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user1593881
6:45 AM
@NathanOliver @πάνταῥεῖ About them struct wiring questions with the c++ tag... Like we are stuck in an infinite loop. And universities that preach this nonsense get away with it. Is there a consensus as to whether to treat those (not even) generic questions as off-topic?
 
7:00 AM
@cricket_007 rather than a duplicate of an old question, I think it's off-topic. It's a job for google
 
7:31 AM
looks like a school assignment, no effort
 
Exactly what I thought.
Users should always include a "Here's why this restriction exists" when asking questions like that tbh.
You cannot comment on questions with "What have you tried?" anymore? O_O
 
7:48 AM
Hiya'll \o
 
Hiya o/
 
8:14 AM
hey guys
 
8:27 AM
Hiya o/
 
Hiya \o
 
Sup =)
 
\o
@Seth anymore?, since 2013 you should not :D “What have you tried” epidemic
 
o,o ...
I've seen a few recently
 
8:39 AM
be a good janitor and flag'em... maybe best that you use "too chatty" ; )
 
@Seth dupe
 
@Tunaki Nice :)
 
practically every pure Java question has a dupe out there, so the first thing to look is that
 
Wtf was that spam post...
Sort of read like a typical facebook post...
No punctuation whatsoever =/
 
8:50 AM
nice cream advertise...
 
I know :D
But written so poorly..
"You're bad, and you should feel bad."
 
Yeah Seth, you're kinda bad.
 
I see some random 3 users, I know that it is autoflagged :p
 
ô_ô
Inb4 "Get some repz" comment
 
Get some repz
 
8:52 AM
-____-
 
9:09 AM
Get some repz is so unSOCVR-ish, we now use get rene'd
 
ò.ó
Get flowerpunched?
 
No. He will visit you in the dawn with his running chainsaw...
horrorflower
 
@kayess ... to help me cutting down some trees?
Lovely!
 
Yeah and he will plant blurry flowers in place of trees
 
9:12 AM
@Tunaki nope
 
eh, already voted on that Adriaan :)
 
@Tunaki pending edit makes it an answer I think
 
Yeah but it looks like a follow up on stackoverflow.com/a/22646789/1743880
 
@Tunaki thanks love. That's the one that sparked a discussion between me and BR last week due to a flag of mine
 
and the edit is just making it a dupe of that answer
 
9:13 AM
@Tunaki true. Edit has been rejected, I voted NAA
 
Will probably be declined.
Even though it is NAA.
 
@Seth left a comment. We'll see, declined flags are not high on my worry list
 
No it's not NAA, it's an attempt
 
@kayess Nope.
 
@Seth why?
 
9:15 AM
It's basically asking "Regarding the other answer: What to do here?"
 
nvm, my bad
 
and?
 
@kayess That is NAA.
 
Your flower is in another castle, y'know.
 
Where is that castle?
 
9:16 AM
@Adriaan I'm on 99.56% helpful ._. I need to watch out.
@Tunaki In another castle.
Castleception.
 
throw new plop;
 
That reminds me of the custom "KyllIsNotAnException"-exception that I built in my project & forgot :)
Interesting conversation I had with my boss the next day.
 
Why? Dev just needs to check if e is KyllException
 
I was simply testing stuff back then, not really having a clue about many concepts etc.
And the exception was always thrown ._.
Didn't cause any serious trouble, but cluttered the logs.
 
lol
 
9:22 AM
hey all, \o...quick question, what is a good close reason for "what does this code do?" questions?
 
@Lankymart I don't know if questions like that automatically qualify for being closed tbh
 
waffles
 
Not spam.
Just use google translate.
> There is a problem with the .9 diagram in the resource file. Gradle console prompts the wrong .9 map information, only need to modify it can be a normal operation.
 
@Seth ah, the grade console threw me off, thinking this was spam for some gaming console
 
@Adriaan LOL
 
9:47 AM
@Seth I wasn't sure so just answered it instead.
 
user3956566
sello @seth and s@kayess
 
@YvetteColomb Sello syvette :3
@Lankymart Nice :)
 
siya syvette \o
 
user3956566
sow sare sou?
 
sood c: shat sabout sou?
 
user3956566
9:53 AM
so sood shank sou
 
sim sine shanks syve!
 
user3956566
shat's so sood :)
 
user3956566
shere's son slements? se seed so seep sa sook sout
 
STACK SOVERFLOW SLOSE SOTE SEVIEWERS
 
user3956566
sososos
 
9:54 AM
sos
 
user3956566
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user3956566
ssssssssssss
 
Oh look, we've entered the snake world
 
I sisagree
 
What have I done...
Btw, I was afk for roughly 10+ minutes, and we've gone from 13,387,010 questions to 13,387,462 :') ...
Half of which are probably garbage.
 
user3956566
9:58 AM
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SsSsSsSsSs
 
user3956566
ses! sof source!
 
user3956566
SsSSsSSsS
 
^ Shat sisn't samel sase, shis sis snake sase
:)
 
user3956566
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