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11:00 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ what os do you program in, meaning, if not msft, what tools on linux
 
@Drew Embedded linux mostly now, but I don't care a lot. Been working with windows servers also.
 
what are the platforms for linux side
i mean like tools
 
Hmm, tools? I've got an ARM CPU, gpios and such?
 
compilers
 
11:03 PM
Ah, GCC of course
 
so no real sea change there in last dozen years
 
I've setup my own build systems based on make
 
so c++ is robust and healthy on linux
 
@Drew I experimented a little with clang recently
@Drew It's solid like granite :)
 
is their any breakdown of percentages for c++ by os (or is it mostly msft)
^ lame question POB
 
11:07 PM
@Drew As mentioned, in general I don't care a lot. On windows systems especially with GUI applications I'd prefer c#.
 
yeah me too. But mostly I do faceless middleware serverside
and java has a too large footprint, and scala has few resources I can tap
of course scala sits on the jvm
 
@Drew I also love implementing protocols and mapping between various of them.
 
and c# is a non-starter on linux
regardless of mono
 
user4639281
Just use JavaScript, it's the future
 
so I want to get back into c++
but on linux
no CLR no JVM
 
11:10 PM
@Drew It's a pure party pooper on linux
 
how about the c++ standards on linux
trust me I know squat about it
but I used to do a ton in c++
like back in the Borland days
 
@Drew Clang gives you c++ + some extra options it seems (intelligent plugins for code injection)
@Drew Shudder
 
yeah well they invented it
commercially
 
You mean Turbo?
It's still used a lot for educational use in india
 
I worked for 3 companies that were killed by mr. softie. Borland Novell Lotus
 
11:15 PM
Causes problems with c++ questions all day long here
@TinyGiant Not for my ARM platforms :D
 
user4639281
lol
 
<< Wonders how to access a gpio pin with javascript :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ this should be my portal: clang.llvm.org/cxx_status.html
 
@Drew Yup, that looks promising
 
11:20 PM
thx boss
 
The nice thing with LLVM is the strict distinction of language frontends and backend code generators. It allows so many possibilities to put something in between. Much easier than you could make such things happen than with GCC.
 
so how do you answer questions around here without caveats like with python 2.7 v 3 ?
If you know what I mean
 
@Yvette @tripleee @AshishAhujaツ @TylerH Reopen votes here also stackoverflow.com/questions/4894718/…
 
@Drew I'm usually not answering python questions?
 
an analogy
 
11:26 PM
@Drew You mean compiler versioning? It's mostly not relevant for c++ questions.
 
k
 
Not for the broad mass seen here.
One thing is, we always mention that Turbo c++ is blatantly outdated for decades, and people should switch to something more modern. Big problem with indian pupils asking silly stuff :)
 
see this is a good first reading clang.llvm.org/comparison.html#gcc
I was a borland OWL dev then MFC
never did turbo
I was an assembly programmer during turbo
 
@Tuna note: it is the same users (reopen votes), he has also posted a comment, on one of the post I have informed him that tag is being burniated.
 
@Drew I also used MFC (compulsorily), switched to ATL that times as much as possible, but my colleagues din't get that stuff really :(
 
11:33 PM
then I became a consultant and had fun making money
figured i paid my pounds of flesh in assembly and c and c++ by that point
 
@Drew I never programmed using assembly language seriously besides my school days.
 
well I wrote the actual servers. Had no choice back in the day
 
I'm using assembly language as a last resort of optimization of course sometimes.
Currently I'm doing lot of stuff interfacing with FPGAs. I'd love to be able programming with VHDL. But it seems I'm too dumb for that stuff :P
@Drew For calling me an old fart, you must be not that young as you seem to be isn't that?
 
I turn 50 soon
made my money, just screwing around now
 
I'm 52. Always nice to meet peers ;)
And I'm poor like a church mouse :(
 
11:42 PM
ok my ex-wife is rich. I am a mouse
 
There certainly something went wrong with my life line.
@Drew Ah marriage is an option of course :)
 
my boys are well taken care of. That is all that matters.
 
@Drew Kids are the most important thing of course.
@Drew My ex-wife has a daughter (not mine) and I support her whenever possible.
 
user4639281
@Tuna Turns out I actually wrote an answer about rate limiting function calls
 
11:46 PM
@TinyGiant very nice
 
user4639281
@Tunaki the things they say can't be done
 
Hi @PetterFriberg - thanks for the help
 
@AdamPedley I do not think the close voters are in chat at this moment (European CET), there is also a specific room for burning the the tag godaddy-burnination any help is appreciated, related to your questions I can not help you out, my suggestion is to try to edit them to not be to godaddy specific and then ping the room, in particular rene or any other room owner
 
@πάνταῥεῖ ditto. Some of us are too intense and we realize it
 
I simply noticed your questions since @Tunaki has bot running checking for re-open votes, re-tag, closed, re-tag etc
 
11:50 PM
@Drew I just got that now, it's the other way round :)
 
Hey @Adam I re-read your question and that's a nice edit you made there. I voted to reopen.
 
thanks @Tunaki
 
Why don't we have the money we deserve? I'm no way less intelligent than Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. These guys were just lucky with putting something on at the right time slot.
 
user4639281
which question are we talking about?
 
11:53 PM
We have all the money we actually need. Did you want to expand your empire @πάνταῥεῖ
 
@Tunaki \o N8
 
Cya Tuna
 
@Drew I'm a bit afraid about my retirement pension will be borderline to keep my lifestyle. Besides that I have all the money I need right now of course.
 
well you can contact me
 
@Drew Huh?
@Drew Regarding a job?
 
11:57 PM
I invited you to slack a month ago
 
@Drew Alzheimer, I said it. Must have been forgotten :(
 

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