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12:01 AM
@AndrasDeak I already noticed a number of companions reacting for my requests here. I seems to work just fine :-)
 
and I don't know how cool the room owners are OK with delv-pls requests; the faq used to be unclear on that
I can imagine that fresh posts might be iffy to request, you should check later
 
don't worry, if anyone here submitted at least one edit to docs, 20k will be easy pie
 
lol
 
@Braiam Yeah, rep's going to render pretty meaningless nowadays.
 
I already farmed like 6 rep today:D
editing low-traffic tag topics \o/
I'm sure mods would love that
it must have been a whle since they last stocked somebody in the middle of town square:P
 
12:11 AM
@QPaysTaxes I'm sure you'll pay your taxes actually ;-P ...
 
@QPaysTaxes I remember that the system strips the diamond
 
then we'll have to file a meta that we can't ping you
 
@QPaysTaxes You'll be naked giggle ...
 
How many <2k users you saw daily on meta before Docs?
 
@QPaysTaxes I've seen any kind of weird unicode nicks at this site already
 
12:15 AM
I've seen a nick that when you ping him it pings everyone in the room
 
@Braiam They're running in like mad, MSO pretty sucks ATM.
@QPaysTaxes There are good reasons, and background ...
 
@QPaysTaxes no...
 
@Braiam it's been fixed
 
@QPaysTaxes Read up my profile statement. It wasn't originally that pun, but could be a good addition.
 
@Braiam did you mean this?
 
12:24 AM
@Braiam Who was posting this nice Monopoly leaned pic today? Was it @Machavity?
 
yeah, it should be on the starboard
 
@Braiam loop(while seen) { [ka-ching](http://i.stack.imgur.com/qCyhR.jpg) $$$$; }
^ Sorry for not getting the formatting right in time :(
I'm just lame with chat markup, it's not I'm lacking humor :-P ...
@QPaysTaxes For whatever language ...
@QPaysTaxes Oh, I'm just creative in inventing pseudo code ;-) ...
The ka-ching() function is the actual focus BTW
 
12:40 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ star wall
 
@Braiam Should I? I've got bad experience with starring (even by glitch) in the C++-Lounge.
 
you might be taking things too seriously
athough that might be necessary when talking to a German
 
@QPaysTaxes If you really want to learn about weird syntax, check Malbolge 1st please.
 
that's more than what I can say regarding the language
 
@AndrasDeak Don't take germans too serious, we're just people like anyone else :-P ...
 
12:45 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Tell that to @Magisch:P He's my German reference here:D
 
@AndrasDeak Magisch is a good guy and I achieve him well at MSO
 
I'm not saying he's not
but he himself admits to not knowing compromise when it comes to regulations
 
@QPaysTaxes The 9th layer to be precise ...
^ Ooops ...
Admit my mis-education
All still funny though
Anyone got popcorn left over?
 
user4639281
1:07 AM
Boo
 
come to help out with JS Docs :p
 
user4639281
js docs are hugely redundant, javascript is very well documented, people just seem to have a problem reading the documentation
 
@Drew JS docs are undefined
 
user4639281
js docs are NaN
 
@Machavity What about PHP?
 
1:21 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ I didn't ask for help with PHP Docs :P
 
1:56 AM
@Kyll Is night now. Where's BR? :(
 
 
4 hours later…
6:19 AM
Hiya!
 
Yawn...
Got out of bed too late; missed all the spam.
 
6:45 AM
 
6:56 AM
Unintended humour: An answer on how to escape HTML tags contains several unescaped tags.
@AshishAhujaツ Looks like a question about using a software library, not about the licensing issue itself.
 
I honestly couldn't tell if that was spam or just someone overzealously quoting release notes.
 
@RyanBemrose me neither but I checked the link and the previous reports in MS to make my call
 
7:13 AM
It's a link to a "blog" on a commercial site. One that has spammed before. One day we will reach the XKCD ideal of useful spam but that day is not today. ;)
Anywho, the suspect post is now gone and the OP didn't get the spam penalty -- in the remote chance that (s)he was just misguided.
 
@NisseEngström ah well.. I agree. At first it looked to me like a licensing question.
 
@BrockAdams Yeah, the delete vote gang got it ...
 
@rene could you move my latest cv-pls to trash or the graveyard? I think I made a mistake
 
7:29 AM
@AshishAhujaツ done
 
^ Some weird voting on that one.
 
@Shubhank yeah 4 upvotes!??!
Voting ring?
 
thought to flag
but not sure. sock puppet users i guess
 
I've just flagged it. Also has 5 favorites.
 
7:39 AM
I also flagged it.
 
Looks like the user may have been involved in voting fraud in the past.
 
@AshishAhujaツ I dunno. Seems okay-ish to me. Is there a meta post somewhere that forbids this? It's programming related and not likely to be opinion-driven...
 
8:18 AM
@BrockAdams it seems to be asking for an off-site resource. It is not clear which problem they have that they think they need the code for the driver.
except: I want to develop something
 
8:40 AM
@rene catching every exception like that is usually a bad idea
consider reraising the exception when you're done
 
rethrow @Kyll
 
much better
 
Plop!
 
plop, @Kyll:)
 
I have been thrown by rene, my life is now complete
@Seth Done! Sorry for the delay
 
8:50 AM
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Q: Halt and set fire to the [sysadmin]

Kyllsysadmin has 399 questions, 33 of which are closed. Its description is: A person responsible for maintaining the running health of a system (usually an electronic computer). Questions about system administration generally belong on Super User or Server Fault. Following the process to burnin...

 
You want to get rid of the BOFH?
2
 
With fire.
Hahaha
That auto-comment self-referencing, private targeted joke. Good one.
 
You better be warned
 
@rene What's BOFH?
 
@PraveenKumar Check the Urban Dictionary =p
 
9:01 AM
@Kyll LoL?
 
Yup.
Beware, trash talks belongs in trash room =p
 
 
2 hours later…
10:39 AM
Plop!
 
11:13 AM
f?
@Yam die
 
Yam
@PraveenKumar You must be a room owner or moderator to kill me. Please contact your local Sam for further assistance.
 
Ha ha ha... :D
 
 
1 hour later…
12:40 PM
for now ...
redupe-pls is not catched by the archiver ;)
 
@rene Of course, I know ...
 
You break all the thingz ...
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And I'm not going to touch that script with all those regex
 
@rene Gotta get more used to the habits here
 
Meh, you're doing fine
 
@rene The linked page doesn't contain anything that addresses the question. I would consider flagging it as spam.
 
12:47 PM
^ approve?
 
Why can't I assume good faith? :(
OK
someone should OK that smokey report then
 
You certainly can. I haven't flagged it either.
 
testing
using remote desktop from a tablet is not .... easy .... understatement
 
@rene How can I subscribe the SD and these tools, and how it's controlled? Could you give me a pointer for that, I did't find from a first glance.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ sure, hold on
@πάνταῥεῖ here it is: github.com/charcoal-se/smokedetector/wiki
 
12:56 PM
@rene THX a lot
 
You can request access from this room by asking me or one of the RO's. Or you can head to charcoal HQ and have you added there to the privileged users.
I expect users to lurk a bit first so they don't feed Smokey with bad reports
 
<<<< Keeps lurking a while ;-) ...
 
OK
 
1:14 PM
Documentation is the new rep-w**res gettho: stackoverflow.com/questions/38541906/…
 
@Kyll Good! ^-^
 
My lowest ranking BR, by far =p
 
1:49 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I've added a Smoke Detector FAQ item here under What is Smoke Detector and how can I participate?. Can you check for me if that makes sense and if it needs more info?
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@rene Yep! This is very informative. That's what I was missing from my 1st glance.
 
OK, great, thanks.
 
I'm going to study the command list a bit later (May be you could enhance the entry with a direct link to commands). That's at least the most confusing thing for newbies here.
 
@JanDvorak We don't moderate MSO or MSE
 
@JanDvorak Isn't that QED?
 
2:00 PM
However, reporting to Smokey works for all sites IIRC, get in touch with the Charcoal HQ
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I'd say he's asking for abu-flags
already reported in the tavern as a mostly non-latin answer
 
@JanDvorak Agreed now. At least posting twice is extremly fishy.
@JanDvorak May be you should have made that clear with your original request.
 
Docs seems to be a game of attrition, waiting for when people just give up...
 
Who are the fighting sides? Or is it a deathmatch?
 
people with any criteria and everyone else
 
2:09 PM
Deathmatch to see who faints first... I'm going propose that docs.se was inspired by PokéGo
@Braiam hey, that sounds familiar, SO main is all about vampires vs comods.
 
@JanDvorak Yeah, a flood of confused people running around out in the wild, staring at their rep, without keeping notice of the traffic going around them.
 
@rene and, could you add queen and a bit of it's description in the list of bots in the faq
 
2:26 PM
Also, is this spam? Avoided an HREF but plugs a site
 
href doesn't matter. But it's on-topic.
 
@Machavity Clearly
@JanDvorak Nope
 
@AshishAhujaツ also done
 
You can create a PR if you need anything changed or added
 
2:38 PM
@rene I think you made a typo: "Is a bit for" should be "Is a bot for"
 
@rene Can I subscribe queen to be notified please?
 
Hiya
 
@Tunaki hey!
 
@Tunaki can you provide @πάνταῥεῖ with Queen?
 
Sure :)
 
2:47 PM
@Tunaki Hi
 
@queen add [c++]
 
@Tunaki The tag is already available in this room
 
@Tunaki THX
@queen @NathanOliver
 
Welcome πάντα ῥεῖ, you have been added as Reviewer, standby executing your command
 
@queen You're a nice bot.
 
2:49 PM
Thanks honey
 
NLP is enabled???
@queen hello
 
@queen add user 1413395 πάνταῥεῖ 2
 
User: (1413395) πάνταῥεῖ as Hammer updated
 
voila, now you can do "opt-in [c++]" and that's it :) @πάνταῥεῖ
queen will only ping you if you're in the room
 
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lurks
 
2:51 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ then you can opt-out whenever you are lurking but not actually in the room
 
yep
 
Gotta get used to it simply ;-) ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ πάνταῥεῖ, professional lurker.
 
@queen opt-in
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Please opt-in for 1 tag and max 1 tag
 
2:53 PM
yeah, only [c++]
 
@Petter ^ Maybe support tag markup?
 
I can add that.
 
@queen did I ask for more actually?
 
The message could be clarified :D
OK OK you convinced me, I'll add tag markup.
 
@Tunaki The setup process discussion looks funny. @queen is picky with candidates it seems. But well, what would you expect from royals?
 
2:58 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ how would you pronounce you name?
 
Panta Rhei in latin letters. A better transcript is given with the wikipedia article I linked in my profile. You may call me "Panta" if you like.
 
Alright I fixed it. It will be taken into account on next reboot.
You still need to opt-in though @πάνταῥεῖ.
 
@Tunaki I tried, didn't work. Sorry I'm not sober, but did I miss something essential?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ "opt-in [c++]", no tag markup.
 
@queen opt-in [c++]
 
3:08 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Thanks, you have opted-in to be notified if a duplicate is found in tag and you are present in room
 
\o/
 
@Tunaki I love tuna sushi! Lots on wasabi on it!
 
What exactly is sushi? Never heard of it
 
3:13 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Japanese food
 
So is it like spicy, or what?
 
@AshishAhujaツ Sushi is raw fish, wrapped with various veggies and rice, often in seaweed (which is actually algae strips but used to be seaweed)
it's often served with Wasabi (a spicy, horseradish-like herb) and ginger
 
@AshishAhujaツ Various tastes and flavors. Mostly with raw fish, and algae, but there are really many variants, that fall under the category sushi.
 
The wasabi is stupid expensive so it's typically green horseradish
 
Ah. So it is a specialty of Japan?
 
3:17 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Yup
I tried making a pun ;-)
@Machavity But you only need very little of that powder or paste
@Tunaki You're so yummy ;-) ...
 
:(
leaves in a hurry
 
@Tunaki No need, I'm just kidding. But we all learned something about exotic food today X-D ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yeah, it is. But having had both, I see why Wasabi is better
 
3:32 PM
@Machavity I once thought when cooking, "Well, lets add a spoonful of that nice looking green stuff, might add some zest". Hell, how you could fail :-P ...
@AshishAhujaツ Funny enough my foster child daughter currently hosts a japanese exchange student. And may be we should show some competence about that topic.
+10k I just saw the meta question Does “Documentation” have a RSS feed? and was tempted to answer [Meta Stack Overflow obviously].
 
Hiya
 
@BhargavRao Hi
 
@BhargavRao Hey!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ about sushi?
 
3:41 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Any more questions?
 
Who's talking bout Sushi and Wasabi? o_O
Did not know that we had Japanese here.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Oops. Looks like I asked too many questions today :p
 
@BhargavRao I'm german and I'd suspect Ashish is from india. So total incompetence about that topic.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ yup. I'm from India
 
Heard the news about Munich @πάνταῥεῖ, Hope everything's back to normal.
Well I'm a total noob in that topic too, I was offered that once, Ate a mouthfull and my stomach was on fire. :D
 
3:45 PM
@BhargavRao Yes, they said so today.
 
Oh. 9 people died in that attack on Munich. That's sad
 
Yeah, Also some 60 people dead in an attack in Kabul.
Makes me feel sad. I guess I should stop seeing News, But here on SO it ain't make me happy sweeping teh crap.
 
@AshishAhujaツ Worlds completely gone mad these days, sad indeed. It becomes getting impossible to count innocent victims, no matter if they've been killed in terrorist acts or amok running people.
 
@BhargavRao SOCVR: Making you forget how bad the world is one vote at a time
 
Hah! True True.
 
3:50 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ agree. There are attacks going on every day nowadays somewhere or the other
 
I look on the bright side. In Munich they called it "probably a terrorist attack" right out of the gate. In the US, we'd wring our hands about gun control and try to assign the "real blame"
 
@BhargavRao One of the culprits is IMO, that it's so easy to draw attraction from the ubiquitous media.
 
In the Dhaka Hostage Crisis, The terrorists were given information about the police by their handlers who were watching television. Media is to be blamed
 
@Machavity Since we have 3d printing tech, control over guns was lost long time ago. I'm going to print me a Glock now (just for self defense of course!).
 
@BhargavRao same thing happened in the mumbai terrorist attacks on that taj hotel. The first few times the try to get hostages out failed because media was giving live coverage. In the final and successful attack, live coverage of all channels was put to a halt
 
3:57 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Yep. They cut off the live visuals on the third day and the terrorists were caught.
Coincidently, I visited The Leopold Cafe today. :-)
 
@BhargavRao you're in mumbai?
 
They have repaired that Taj Hotel and it looks really great from the sea.
Yeah, For a month. On work.
 
wafflez
 
That's spam for sure
 
Damn. That is still not deleted so my waffles become invalid :(
 
4:05 PM
@rene Asking for clarification once more. According the command docs what are commands like sd f 2k actually?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ it's simple. Lets say there are three reports, a and b and c. Now first a was reported. Then b, and eventually c. No one feedbacked them. To save time, instead of indivually feedbacking, you can do sd f 2k to mark c as f, b as k and a as k
@πάνταῥεῖ next time, for more related to smokey doubts, you can ask them in charcoal, the official room of smokey where all cross-site reports are also posted
 
@AshishAhujaツ OKEY
 
4:42 PM
Night o/!
 
@AshishAhujaツ N8
 
5:03 PM
Good morning!
 
@NobodyNada Good evening (it's 19:03 here actually) ...
 
Timezone issues ...
 
@rene issues?
 
Maybe a fact of life ...
I can be a bit down on weekends .. :D
 
Hey can I ask for a reject on documentation for "copied content"?
 
5:14 PM
@ryanyuyu I've seen something like this ould comme up her sooner or later.
 
Yeah no technical expertise required
 
@ryanyuyu wow... not even the comments
 
nope
 
@ryanyuyu Few things which I dislike :/
 
yeah it's just so sad
 
5:17 PM
The docs are duplicating some good documentation elsewhere. The plagiarism is soo rampant.
 
@ryanyuyu technically they have created Documentation Review
Our involvement is pending discussion
 
Ok thanks
 
Maybe this whole docs thingy is going away soon ...
 
it's a cool idea that is running into some serious growing pains
 
back
 
5:23 PM
Hi Tuna
 
@rene I'm stll hoping, but chances seem low ...
 
@ryanyuyu hopefully, things will settle down after a week or so
 
yeah hopefully
 
@Tunaki Yum
 
still hungry eh? :D
 
5:24 PM
Yes, but we need you later so I'll make something myself
 
it's lunchtime for me here. But I'll passively lurk for another half hour or so
 
Oh good, I am needed for something. I matter! \o/
:)
 
yay
 
I have just finished
 
> So, the question is not longer reproducible right? Close it.
Well, a question would be no longer reproducible only if 1. it were about a pre-alpha / alpha version that won't be available anymore 2. is fixed in the openly available versions. That is the case here though, might want to add that
 
5:37 PM
is there such a thing like in socvr?
 
@dorukayhan Just
 
@dorukayhan Yeah, you can do
 
Then give the reason
 
@dorukayhan Or you can report it to SmokeDetector if you have privileges: !!/report postURL
 
5:49 PM
I'm going to eat lunch now
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@Closey That was waaaaaaaaay to easy
 
6:20 PM
self deleted, great
 
6:33 PM
it may be
 
afk
 
@Braiam Not wanting to add to the drama @Braiam but your answer doesn't seem to add much above that is already said by Tim. And with that the discussion about the meta of another site is closed ...
 
@rene Tim answer is too long
people don't read
 
So yours is the tl;dr :D
OK, let's leave at that then
 
6:46 PM
there should be a meta canon about this... that isn't SO centric
 
Bring it to MSE ...
 
yet another java-8 topic created... when will Docs tag die?! How many unnecessary flags does it take?!
 
Remove rep from docs and everything will fallback into place
 
woot...
 
6:54 PM
Bye all, Time to sleep \o
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
and yet, the unicorn did it
 
@Tunaki did you flagged?
 
flag what?
 
yeah you did
the "improvement request"...
 
6:58 PM
Ah yes, that I flagged.
 
why they had to word it so "positively"?
 
7:10 PM
Low traffic tag are completely unmanageable on Docs... it is sick how everything in Maven is very bad or copy-paste of the docs or even duplicates existing topics....
 
@Tunaki solution, delete everything
 
and there's literally nothing you can do, except watch and cry
flags are useless, I don't want to improve, I want to nuke the thing.
 
poor @Tuna... did you want to play with my tennis ball and cheer yourself up? :p
 
@Tunaki but to nuke you need the biscuit, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and and... well, the guys that actually fire the nuke
 
just incredible 1 and 2 are copy-paste...
wrong 1..
 
7:17 PM
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
I will flag them all as unnecessary...
 
well, if you flag them I can't help you :(
 
how could you help?
 
I can flag and then you can review...
Right now I can't draft anything :(
 
@Braiam well for example this one stackoverflow.com/documentation/maven/2313/… has no added value since the docs are very well comprehensive maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/…
 
7:28 PM
I can't handle flags if I'm unable to submit drafts
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 49 seconds, averaging to a review every 19 seconds.
 
OK, I call it a day
 
@Braiam but you can flag?
cya rene
 
@Tunaki and review changes, but can't edit/delete anything since that implies drafting
 
user177800
:3188124 - yours is a FOLLOW addition to this one that is too broad and opinion based as well - stackoverflow.com/questions/38490798/…
 
user177800
7:34 PM
@rene first part of you too broad report - stackoverflow.com/questions/38490798/…
 
there you go, I flagged each and every topic in maven as unnecessary...
 
Why have then Documentations at all? — Braiam 13 secs ago
the question everyone should be asking themselves
 
7:56 PM
Ha, I just had +2 for deleting an example :D
 
I know the feeling, being rewarded for something you value
 
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