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Sam
12:42 AM
@gunr2171 Congrats \o/
 
thanks!
 
@gunr2171 Merry Christmas!
 
Anyone here willing to give a look at an edit I proposed? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/12869427
 
That's a substantial edit but looks good
Just don't change the meaning
 
Aye, it was mostly one big blob of text that made me cross my eyes a few times. I tried to maintain the meaning as best as I understood
 
12:47 AM
that's one messy answer...
 
did you add that link?
 
The content was really helpful though
the link came from a comment chain that was going on that he didn't include in the answer
 
well considering that I couldn't be made to read the original, yours is definitely an improvement:)
I think it's fine
 
At the very least if I messed up he should be able to correct it (and it shouldn't be too far off)
that's my hope
 
12:50 AM
I'm not sure they care enough to actually read it
considering that they didn't care enough to write it
 
@Assimilater looks good to me
approved
 
he strikes me as a microsoft employee that hasn't done a lot of writing in English...
@gunr2171 thanks :)
 
programmers in general are not the best at writing
 
haha
 
Is it too broad? There are 1+ questions and the content isn't clear
 
12:56 AM
@queen help
 
This is a registered stack app SOCVFinder that notify about possible duplicates and cherry pick questions to review, see quick guide for commands. In this room commands are limited send commands to display available
 
well, I was also confused by that message
and considering the rep pyramid, the largest population sees that
so I don't find it pointless (in case that's what you were implying)
 
1:40 AM
Looks like he did come in and make a correction
:)
 
2:25 AM
@Assimilater Did someone actually just ask if computers have JREs installed to run JavaScript?
 
yup :/
 
@Assimilater This'll come in handy: Java is not JavaScript
 
nice :)
I wonder if there's a SO question already on this (I bet there is)
I don't feel like it's worth an answer unless there isn't
 
The 'How do browsers run JS?' question?
Oh haha
Absolute gold
Java is to JavaScript as Cell is to Cell Phone
 
There could be something salvageable about that question though....
If there was some interesting fact to say about how EMCA is implemented differently on chrome/firefox/node.js (maybe not though)
 
2:36 AM
@Assimilater Chrome and Node both use V8, btw.
 
Java and Javascript are similar like Car and Carpet are similar. lol :P
 
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@JAL hey I've been mentioned in two meta SE posts and in one there was an ultimatum given to SE that is my account wasn't suspended they were leaving :D @rene said +1 to him for saying it lmao
 
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@AndrewL. I think this is what is concerning people who have been around a while
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 hey if you organise a strike I will support you
 
2:56 AM
It's... wingding
 
ahaha
@Yvette the java/js mixup?
It's actually kind of sad. The names are pretty different.
 
3:13 AM
debating whether or not to talk about how the javascript object model works, since the OP posted a comment about following the same rules and conventions....
 
Oh, well that's different
 
hello all...
im back
at the airport
.
 
3:49 AM
Ok people, assist on this one? stackoverflow.com/a/38136303/310560 <<< "due to the common misunderstanding that JavaScript is not Java". The misunderstanding is that people think JavaScript is Java when it's not. CJ7 edited and removed the "not" (probably because nnnn corrected me on an earlier revision when I called it misconception)
what's the right way to say this without my link reading "JavaScript is Java"?
or a better way
 
4:00 AM
@Assimilater "due to the common misunderstanding about the [difference between JavaScript and Java]"
 
@RyanBemrose I like :)
 
@Assimilater I can't take all the credit; it was the title of the linked Q. :)
 
lol
that's a facepalm on me XD
alas, I wonder if my answer will get any attention despite my attention to detail :/
 
It may not right away, but my experience has been that really high quality answers keep getting attention months and years later.
 
"no matter what people think" sounds a little antagonistic. I don't want to paint them as trolls, just ignorant :P
you mean like the inline ones?
good point
"would not understand again"?
I'm not trying to be rude, I just genuinely didn't understand :) (still don't)
I think you're saying my post is understandable? 5 gold stars, excellent post?
lol
lol 'night :)
 
4:17 AM
Hey y'all
 
4:44 AM
So, looking at this fabulous question: stackoverflow.com/questions/38136057/… I'm wondering if there's a way to reword it and help the asker out on the down-votes
the only problem really is that someone has provided a great answer that exists partly because of the ambiguity of the question
 
Why someone upvoted that, I cannot imagine...
 
5:02 AM
Besides being off-topic it's not even a good problem statement if it was on a stack exchange where it was on-topic....
quite the doozy
 
T J
5:45 AM
anyone here?
 
@TJ - I am not here :P
 
T J
Ah great a modrator. I have a question regarding these synonyms stackoverflow.com/tags/jquery-ui-sortable/synonyms
@TheLostMind Is it ok if I edit the wiki of to refer to github.com/johnny/jquery-sortable and re-tag the questions accordingly
P.S I have no relationship with that library. I follow and though.
Or should I first ask in meta?
 
For change in synonmys, we usually start with a meta post... Let the community decide what should be done.
 
T J
There is already a merge request for all three meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/272146/…
But what I'm asking is making synonym of BUT keeping to point to github.com/johnny/jquery-sortable by editing wiki and re-taging
should I ask regarding this? @TheLostMind
 
I see.. Yes, mods are usually careful about changing tag syns because the "merge" of synonmys is kind of irreversible
@TJ - If there is an exact same question, then no point asking it, it will get closed as a dupe
 
5:58 AM
14 followers lol
 
Ping a mod who understands JQuery (they will probably be the ones who will be most comfortable doing this change :P)
 
and the description definitely doesn't seem to give room to imply anything other than the sortable widget that's a core component of ui
(though I'm no moderator)
It's also an old one, and hardly ever been used
 
good morning
 
T J
Mornings
 
:31462623 @TheLostMind I was just about to post a cv-pls (-:
 
6:08 AM
@tripleee - That was a "I don't know how to use google search" question :P
 
T J
@Magisch Know any moderator here who happens to be familiar with jQuery?
 
@TJ Moderator? Idk, probably not
 
T J
Yea just to confirm editing a tag wiki -.-
 
@TJ - Change SYn change requests need a mod to merge.. :P
 
it's not very frequent but I find advice along the lines of "find a moderator" to be hard to follow, especially when it's "find a moderator who X". I've been here for many years, is there a well-known resource that I am missing?
 
@TheLostMind if that was in response to my question, I don't see how it helps
 
IIRC the recommended way to get a specific moderator to respond to anything is raising on meta. For instance if you propose tag synonyms raising on meta will ensure a mod sees it.
 
@tripleee - It was for TJ.
 
@TheLostMind oh, OK :)
 
T J
@TheLostMind I have the privilege. And I can change the wiki. I'm just wondering if I can go ahead and change a tag for "x" to point to "y" and re-tag everything accordingly. Because those tags are a mess now :/
 
6:28 AM
"if I can go ahead and change a tag for "x" to point to "y" and re-tag everything accordingly" ==> No. There must a meta then (Assuming there isn't one already) :P
afk
 
6:53 AM
wth...lol
looks like a reasonably poorly-formed question except for the end lol
 
T J
@TheLostMind Well I posted my evil plans as an answer to the existing question so that people can vote on it to convey their opinion meta.stackoverflow.com/a/327229/2333214
 
@TJ the privileges article you linked says "approve tag wiki edits" but does it mean "vote on tag wiki edits" or can that be done with lower rep?
 
T J
@Assimilater Actually it was linked by @TheLostMind . I believe " "vote on tag wiki edits" means vote to approve the edit, just like voting to approve a normal edit. Looks like only 5k users will see tag wiki edits inside the edit review queue.
 
bummer...i got a ways to go
 
T J
@Assimilater I think he meant to link this stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/trusted-user which lets you directly edit wikis without it entering reviews 3:)
But then you have to ask on meta before doing so? meh :/
 
7:05 AM
lol, well I don't think I would want to do that acting alone anyways XD
I should probably get to bed about now
I've fed my new addiction long enough tonight
and put a surprising amount of time into that java vs javascript answer
 
T J
@Assimilater Well good nights then
 
just to recapitulate the obvious, earning a privilege means you can use it at your own discretion. But significant refactoring of somebody else's work is always dubious, and so you should ask on meta before you plunge ahead with anything with repercussions beyond a single item (question, answer, tag, etc)
 
The idea behind a privilege is that you use it with caution and care
 
T J
How do I check if any user has a tag badge on particular badge?
 
@TheLostMind In lieu of making another meta post, could you please clear the spam flag on this audit that may trip up various other people (the post had sufficient disclaimers that OP works for the company making the product)
 
7:21 AM
Good morning guys \o
 
Self disclosure is in there but his only two answers link to this
 
@Magisch: a bit self-promotional yes, but a bit edge case for me. Suggest you add a comment asking him to reduce level of link-only posts.
 
7:38 AM
Hiya o/
 
@Tunaki o/
@tuna Is my comment on here sensible?
Also, we should probably delvote that Q
 
7:57 AM
@Magisch fine for me
 
@Tunaki Is that Q eligible for delete votes?
 
Yep
and it has 1 :)
target is not that great...
 
Hey, morning.
 
Hiya o/
 
8:12 AM
can 10k+-ers see my deleted questions in a search?
 
nope
 
am trying to find a useful answer to an old question of mine and can't find it, but nothing's in my 'recently deleted questions' either...
 
no idea love
@cybermonkey you can search for your own deleted answer with deleted:1 in the search box
 
@Tunaki even if it's been > 60 days? the question was like my one for C++, but for Lua instead.
 
@Yvette wait, that ultimatum has long passed? ... writing team...
 
8:20 AM
plop
@Kyll hi
 
I should have the code somewhere (which is what I'm actually trying to look for), will do a Google search for it.
 
@AndyK seconded, this needs to be closed; homework with no effort
 
Is this question close-able? If so, which reason?
 
@AndyK you might stand a better chance of getting us to click your CV if you provide information along with the cv-pls and the question's URL; see the links others are posting here
 
@tripleee the "kid" is showing no effort. Man, you are in the uni. It is a great time to learn
 
8:28 AM
@AndyK absolutely agree
gone now though
 
@tripleee to be honest, I don't like to cv question but if people are acting in bad faith or in an unfair manner, I can follow you to hell to get your skull
 
@Lafexlos I'd say no MCVE
 
anyway, war drumming is over. Getting back to peace state
 
@AndyK I don't think you need to get emotionally involved. Close-voting junk is just civic duty to keep the site useful.
 
@tripleee I'm trying to keep a cool head but sometimes, it is getting to my bones. But still I agree with you, it is just civic duty and I need a cool head. Thanks for your word
 
8:33 AM
@AndyK thank you, too
 
is there some site where I can search for deleted questions using keywords? Google isn't bringing anything up and I would rather not have to download an old version of the db.
 
@cybermonkey did you try data.stackexchange.com?
 
I also distinctly remember awarding a bounty on the answer as well
@tripleee nope, will try now
 
though if it's your own, your profile contains "recently deleted" just below your questions and answers
 
@tripleee see above
it was obviously deleted some time ago (haven't done Lua for a couple of years, so there's the timeframe of two years...), and I want to know exactly why it was removed..
am I doing anything wrong with this SEDE query to find my deleted questions?
 
8:39 AM
this just seems like a honeypot for bad answers?
 
I just tried data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/504350/… with your user ID 2422013 and it gave me something ... though nothing obviously Lua
 
@tripleee I'm looking for a deleted question of mine and not an answer.
 
hmmm, except the answers are not actually deleted (!)
 
I have the code so the code's not the problem here. My problem is that the question & answer is nowhere to be found, and was one of the most useful Q&As on Stack Overflow that I've ever had.
 
@cybermonkey there doesn't seem to be anything to actually select "deleted" in the SQL
 
8:43 AM
I don't remember there being anything wrong with the Q&A either.
 
uh nvm, I got the tabs mixed up
IIRC there was a change in how deletes were done, but my memory is really vague here
 
Thing is that I didn't attribute (bad cybermonkey, bad!) in the first place, but one line of the function is string.rep(" ", length - #msgC) which most definitely isn't mine as that line doesn't use semicolons which I do usually use.
 
@tripleee it's not a recently deleted question though, that's the problem
 
top hit is stackoverflow.com/questions/6075262/… but I don't see you participate and it has just a few votes
 
8:47 AM
looking at my rep history, should be a good indicator
 
@SmokeDetector question is off-topic, general computing
 
T J
@Magisch @TheLostMind found a moderator (possibly employee) who's good in jQuery: stackoverflow.com/users/13249/nick-craver
 
Mind someone with insta-edit capability to do it ? ----^
 
on it
 
And I want a cookie. We're not a code writing service. Show what you've tried. — Magisch 24 secs ago
 
8:55 AM
@Cerbrus Thanks
 
Is the association bonus on SE @100 or 200?
 
T J
100
 
42
 
Y'all behave we now have Ed in house with us
 
@kayess Or he's gonna Educate you :D
plop @ed
 
8:59 AM
@Magisch LOL I'm gonna get E'd <- the shortest form of getting mod verb'd. ever.
 
rep history can't be retrieved using SEDE can it?
 
@Tunaki ta, forgot about that
specifically looking for a -2 'removed' event
aka, unaccept due to question deletion
 
morning all
 
@TJ - In case you want tag synonyms to change, This might be worth reading meta.stackexchange.com/questions/70710/…
 
9:10 AM
@SmokeDetector three minutes, and the spam is still there?
 
Hi TLM!
 
now, that's better
 
now bought the number of -2 events down to 66 (!) posts -.-
 
^seems false but requires edit to remove signature
 
can I , here?
 
9:20 AM
lets just edit it out and leave comment
 
@SmokeDetector sd remove edited
Or whatever the command was
Also, delete vote on that would be okay.
 
9:46 AM
I guess
 
hmm
did you see previous post.
 
I think that Q will grow to a spam seed
 
@Ferrybig agree better to close and add user to blacklist
 
user is already blacklisted
 
I think you removed him with f
 
9:50 AM
@PetterFriberg User is not blacklisted (6425752 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@Tuna --^
 
I gave up, so I posted to Meta: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/327238/…
 
Hello everybody
 
Hello
 
10:03 AM
Is it possible to "switch" the duplicates, as it is explained? I believe my reputation is not enough to do this
 
Let me look.
 
hmm community dupe...
 
Same OP on both questions
 
Yes
 
@IAmInPLS I'm afraid I know nothing on this technology. Can you edit this one stackoverflow.com/questions/36318491/… to include the most relevant info from this one? stackoverflow.com/questions/36307460/… (like the relevant comments or commands)?
It seems like the command tried aren't the same. And there are no error but a comment on the dupe has one.
 
10:09 AM
Of course. At the time of the question I was talking with this user, and the question marked as a duplicate is rather another question following the first one. Not sure why it was marked as a duplicate though.
 
mkay
 
@IAmInPLS, ok I'm in switching them, it surely better that way (since the other have an answer), then some one with more knowledge in the matter will decide if the open question should stay open.
 
Ok, seems good. Than you for your help
 
missing 1 vote
 
@Tunaki not any longer
 
10:23 AM
@NathanOliver @PaulRoub stackoverflow.com/questions/38123625/… see his latest edit and comment. It seems to show a reasonably narrow question, but since I know almost nothing about k-means I can't be sure
 
We need 2 more cv on theB last cv-pls request to complete the switch (meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/327235/…)
@IAmInPLS switch complete, thanks
 
@IAmInPLS The duplicates have been switched.
 
ha I ninja'd Tuna that must be a first...
 
You didn't! Prove it!
 
Yeah I will bookmark it : )
 
10:33 AM
afk
 
@IAmInPLS, maybe leave a notice in the end of your meta (that switch have been made), without changing your question, if someone like to answer it
 
<-- #1 helpdesk tag
 
Yeah I would vote for flamethrower
 
10:58 AM
Plop!
 
11:20 AM
@PetterFriberg Ok, will do. Thanks for the switch!
 
11:31 AM
@Adriaan I voted to reopen
Morning
 
Sam
Morning
 
Plop @nathan!
@Sam it confuses me whether you are saying morning to nathan or coming to this room now :D Morning anyways
 
Hiya
 
Sam
xD
 
Morning
 
11:36 AM
Half day today and then I have a nice long weekend. So looking forward to that.
 
What bothers me most about such spam are the incomplete sentences.
 
lol
Now I know why Closey is acting up. Look at all the attention queen is giving Tunaki.
 
@Clo I LOVE YOU
 
See. You never spurned queens advances and now she is so upset and confused. for shame
 
user3956566
@rene :D
 
11:54 AM
Hello everyone! (Sam's Backup Server)
 
@Tunaki that's abusive aka k
Hi @Yvette
 
@Tunaki I LOVE YOU TOO
7
 
If that would be really closey, I would be damned..
 

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