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Sam
10:00 AM
@AshishAhujaツ 1. I try to follow SRP when it comes to projects. 2. I don't own EditMonitor. 3. EditMonitor is written in a lang I don't know.
 
@Tunaki Don't... It's NSFW. But this context, I have given a comment. Check. :D
 
@PraveenKumar well it's gone, deleted. Thanks!
 
@Tunaki Thanks to you! :P
 
Sam
@Magisch Bam
 
10:00 AM
oops, hang on, ended up creating a secret gist
 
@Sam Oh okay. But what does SRP mean?
 
@tripleee secret gist is fine
 
Sam
@AshishAhujaツ Single Responsibility Principle.
 
just share the URL
 
10:01 AM
@tripleee Okay. But most of the tags we would put in a gist would be duplicated in the other one. So...
 
@tripleee you're right, php isn't a programming language
 
if you have a github account, you can add comments there
@Tunaki we should have a bot to report all PHP questions but that's probably a separate effort
 
:)
 
@tripleee Oh yeah. I have a git account. Lemme do that then
@tripleee Can I edit that? Aren't you allowed to do that only?
@FOX9000 notspam
 
^
 
10:05 AM
Improved it.
 
Oh. I'm not a owner right?!
!>amiowner
 
@AshishAhujaツ No, you are not an owner.
 
Sam
@FOX9000 lol
 
@AshishAhujaツ I don't think you can edit but you can add comments and I can edit in response to those
 
!>amiowner
 
10:06 AM
@PraveenKumar No, you are not an owner.
 
@tripleee Okay. I'll do that
 
@AshishAhujaツ I've done it.
 
looking at popular tags (page 1 of stackoverflow.com/tags) I see some potential problems already
 
@tripleee what problems??
 
10:08 AM
mysql is not a language tag per se but probably common on programming questions
reluctantly adding git and oracle
 
Yeah. but we should add [mysql]. Some question are only tagged with mysql, and are alright. Our goal is not only lang tags, add those tags which will be okay if a q is tagged only with them.
 
Sam
@tripleee Not sure if serious or joking.
 
More bots, more bots! great, what are you up to now?
 
Making a bot that makes bots.
 
Sam
5 hours ago, by tripleee
I've been thinking that we should have notifications here for posts which do not specify a programming language, is there an existing bot which could take this on?
@Tunaki I should really do that.
 
10:13 AM
Sounds like fun I guess al jasper-reports questions will be notified ; )
 
I'm not sure about this. A lot of on-topic and correctly tagged questions don't have a "programming language" tag
Like .
 
@Tunaki Maven is a programming language? :O
 
no, that's the point, it is not
 
Gotcha... :D
 
@Tunaki Then Maven will be added to the programming language tags in the bot. We are looking for q's in which tags need to be added.
 
10:15 AM
like jasper-report, like jasper-studio, like iReport, you would need to included all famous libraries like jfreechart, like poi
 
Maybe it should be the other way around
 
probably
well if you add java to a jasper-reports tag I will probably just need to remove it
 
But then, you could argue that such tags, that cannot live without a programming related tag, should be burninated
 
@Tunaki maybe
 
better that you try that on meta first, I do not think it will fly
 
10:17 AM
@Tunaki that's one of the tags I'm including, it's not really "programming languages" only
the gist is being updated as I progress through the popular tags
but I'm thinking maybe this should be approached from the other direction -- specify sets of tags which commonly occur on closed questions?
 
And so this is becoming a "tag burninator detector" bot :)
 
@Tunaki there are legitimate questions with because it is also a platform, it's just that if you are not programming and tag as only, you are probably posting an off-topic question
 
You like to edit or close posts?
 
in many legitimate questions is just noise so the presence of this tag is not a good predictor, but if it's the only tag (or only or ) then it is
so burnination may or may not be applicable as well, but this is not about that
 
What is the objective with the bot?, to find questions to close?, to find questions to edit?
 
10:21 AM
@tripleee Oh. That gives me an idea. As questions with only platform tags are mostly off-topic, that can be one more filter in my bot. Lemme go make some queries on it. to fine tune the filters.
@PetterFriberg to find questions to edit
 
@PetterFriberg close candidates is what I was thinking, but how exactly to react depends on the question, just like the VLQ queue for example
if the bot is reasonably precise, getting notifications here would be good at least for proofing the concept
@AshishAhujaツ thanks for your comment, already added those based on the tags list
will delete comments as I incorporate them, just to keep signal/noise up
 
Plop!
 
Sam
Hey
 
Plop Kevin!
 
10:34 AM
@Sam How about Ham?
Or Ram?
with an adorable picture of a baby ram
 
RAM? Really?
 
these questions would be more like write-only
 
How 'bout Qam, Jam?
 
Sam
@Magisch Meh, we'll see
 
Uam
Zam
Tam
 
10:35 AM
"slam" has a nice ring
 
Dec 24 '15 at 21:21, by Tiny Giant
Or Ram, Slam, Cram, Fram (oil filter), Gram, Flotsam, Jetsam, Lamb, Wham, Tam, Pam, Zam, Bam, Ma'am...
 
Shazam
 
WamBamThankYouMa'am
 
Anyway, I like Spam.
 
How about rentunam?
A fusion of @rene, @Tunaki and @Sam
 
Sam
10:38 AM
lol
 
user3956566
@DavidG sorry I don't mean to sound rude on meta, I'm just so busy it's insane and I find it hard to ignore a ping.
 
user3956566
anyway I'm out of chat again
 
hello and cya o/
 
10:55 AM
Plop @Yvette
 
anyone here with lots of experience in sqlite/sqlite3?
 
Guys, have you heard? Tuna is forming a band with Jack Black: Tunacious D!
 
@Cerbrus Oh darn
That one hurt me physically...
 
11:08 AM
@Tunaki Let's delete it. It is plagiarism of you!
Only one Tuna should be there and that should be you! :D
 
ASh
11:21 AM
good day!
 
Sam
Hiya!
 
Hiya!
 
Samey! \o
 
Sam
o/
 
@rene shoot
 
11:22 AM
throws @kayess on @kayess for wrecking the train
 
ASh
3 weeks ago I asked
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/323951/a-custom-burnination-request
today [custom] has respawned
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/custom
should I do smth about it?
I know I can go and retag, but it can again be created in the future ...
 
lol I'm so sorry for the wreckage
 
@ASh If it keeps reappearing, you can suggest a black-list... but it is a last resort measure
 
ASh
@Tunaki, so you suggest only retag for now?
 
@ASh Yes
 
ASh
11:27 AM
user PeeHaa just cleared it
 
Morning
 
Sam
Hey
 
Hiya
 
Plop
 
Morning
 
11:35 AM
oh look, a Spearrel
 
oh look, Greek letters
 
oh look, wait what is that?!
 
it's a bird!
 
Sam
it's a plane!
 
it's superman!
 
11:38 AM
It's SuperSam!
 
it's a fish!
 
Sam
xD
 
Instead of spicy tuna, it is SuperTuna
 
I wonder why spammers bother with that kind of spam
 
Spammers guna spam
 
11:42 AM
@NathanOliver Tuna + gunr = guna?
 
@kayess can you chime in here
 
Oh lord
Anyone of our US fellows read the Feinstein & Burr bill?
 
Sam
@Magisch Yes, what is it?
lag :(
 
Don't these people have staffers that know what a computer is
lag?
 
11:49 AM
Sam made an attempt at a joke.
 
What is the computer you speak of?
 
Don't worry, he'll be dealt with.
 
Sam
@Magisch The joke would've easier to pick up. nvm
 
I read that bill
It mandates that any developer or anyone who "facilitates a method or provides a process to communicate in any way or store data"
 
Sam
@Tunaki Time to update my Humour.Jokes module.
 
11:50 AM
must provide the US government with access to the plaintext of all data transmitted in such a way upon request
 
@Sam Just inject some Plop dependencies and it'll be perfect
 
Sam
@Magisch CGP Grey's vid on encryption comes to mind...
 
@Sam This guy's crazy good. Watched the "You are two" recent one?
 
Essentially Feinstein wants to make all encryption that can't be broken instantly on the whim of the US govt. Illegal worldwide
 
Sam
@Kyll Yup.
Pretty interesting.
 
11:53 AM
@Magisch What a swell dude.
 
@Sam Pretty disturbing
 
@rene I think that the synonym should be enough, I can see no reasons to keep the specific version tag, although there were some changes which might indicate breaking changes in functional behaviour, but it still is 3.x, and according to the SQLite versioning page it will remain the same for the far term future.
 
@Magisch But he can break any door, so why not any encryption? Only terrorists use E2E, unbreakable encryption. </sarcasm>
 
There are people seriously thinking and arguing
That data is like anything else, and the government must have access to all of it, always, and not allowing that is terrorism
>_>
 
> There are people seriously thinking and arguing
 
11:55 AM
@Magisch Don't only blame the US. In the Netherlands I get a similar push back from local government if I propose to give citizens control over their own data.
 
Those people aren't thinking
 
@rene Got quite a bunch in France too. Ain't that right @Tuna? So much cringes when you hear our politics talk about encryption.
 
@kayess OK, feel free to write an answer to that. My guts says a synonym would work.
 
Maybe they are thinking but they're just retarded
 
Same here in germany :)
 
11:57 AM
@Magisch That could be the case as well, yea
 
At least our govt. isn't that retarded
 
Fun fact: The british GHQ (idk if that's the actual name, can't recall it exactly) was unable to work through the data they collected
 
"Yeah let me court order away reality"
 
97% of the data remain untouched up to this day
 
Sam
@Seth GCHQ
 
11:58 AM
and they say that this potentially lost more lives (1) than it saved (0)
@Sam Thanks :D
 
Sam
np
 
@Magisch Not too sure anymore ._.
 
IMO one of the funniest thing that happened government / tech-related in the last couple years was when various European leaders learnt they were actively spied on by the NSA. Every single one of them said they were very angry, that allies shouldn't do that, yada yada. What happened then?
 
@Kyll Nothing.
As always.
 
Sam
Hello NSA.
 
12:00 PM
They're watching us.
 
@rene Done.
 
Thing is
The NSA doesn't even care about a direct order from the POTUS, and openly defies inquiries by members of congress
Who exactly is controlling them?
Seems like nobody is
 
Sam
Jon Skeet.
It's all part of the singularity.
 
Hold on a sec Sam, didn't you read the newest breaking news about black holes ?
 
Sam
I vaguely recall hearing something about them.
 
12:05 PM
kyll Object_Kyll = New kyll();
kyll.kyllify;
 
Object_Kyll is kind of a bad name though. Doesn't say much more than the type
 
Aren't class names supposed to start with a capital letter? :o
 
Not in the Kyll Coding Convention
 
Ohhh o.o
 
I just made it up as I go along
it started as a joke
Now we're all using kyll as part of all coding
 
user3956566
12:10 PM
I'm sorry to scare everyone, but I think I am about to murder @Kyll LOLOL
 
See, now you have something in common with @rene
 
user3956566
@Kyll close this browser until you finish the story! HA this was my trap!
 
You'll find code like this in our apps:
Kyll_Name = "NaN"
Kyll_Query = "SELECT Kyll FROM Kyllsonnel WHERE Eintrag=" & Employee_Kyll & " "
Call kyllConn ' [Initialisiere Datenbank Verbindungsobjekt]
Kyll_Recordset.Open SQL, connKyll ' [Recordset öffnen]
 
^ Another one of those "I just need..." followed by an overly broad requirement. Sigh.
 
12:17 PM
\o
 
user3956566
\o
 
\o\
/o/
 
Train breaker @Mag!
 
@Ashish Do it properly :o C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
 
@Seth Na na. I wasn't breaking the train.
 
@Ashish True :c I misread that.
 
@Seth Can you really make a face like :c?? I can't :(
 
12:29 PM
k
 
@AshishAhujaツ I can with a hammer
 
@Kyll Stop telling people my tricks, that's mean :C
 
@Kyll I think you should apply as a doctor in your nearest hospital as a plastic surgery surgeon. They will really pay your for your expertise skills with making different faces with a hammer :D
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 951ae800 on master, running for 16 hours, 17 minutes, and 53 seconds (tracking latency 705089ms).
 
12:39 PM
Still that latency :o
 
Why didn't you give me the time to flag! :'(
Jajaja
LoL.
 
Jajajaja
 
@Magisch Too late! Mwahaha
 
By "Hugh Janus"
How creative
 
"jajaja"? Is j the new s from yesterday?
 
12:41 PM
Like something straight out of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
 
@kayess jajajaja!
 
jaj...
jot jhis jagain.
jlease
 
"jeth" jis jnew jname jfor jseth!
@jeth jajaja
 
joj
 
@Yam jstats
:(
@Yam stats
 
12:44 PM
Jam...
 
@Yam alive
Is yam not alive??
@Sam ^^
 
Is JokeDetector?
 
@SmokeDetector alive
Huh??!
 
Sam
@Yam stats
 
@Closey alive
 
12:45 PM
@AshishAhujaツ I don't want to go on the cart!
 
!!/alive
 
@AshishAhujaツ Yup
 
!!/blame
 
Sam
Hmm
 
@Seth It's Adriaan's fault.
 
12:45 PM
:D
 
Sam
 
The votes on the comment under this question seem to indicate this question should be closed. But there's no visible close votes. And I don't think it's close-worthy (although I searched for a dupe but didn't find one). Would you VTC or am I right to post an answer? If posting it was not ideal I'm ok to remove it. stackoverflow.com/questions/37702622/…
 
Since you are a bot, does you writing chatbots constitutes as you having children?
 
@Sam was Yam alive in the morning?
 
Sam
Yes
 
12:46 PM
@Yam alive
 
Sam
Lemme see what happened...
 
@EricD Thats some homework fodder
I wouldn't bother answering it, and it is certainly closable as lacking a MCVE, but if you already answer it don't waste more effort on deleting the answer
 
@EricD I normally go with too broad as it is a gimmie teh codez question. The OP should come up with something themselves first. If that was a homework assignment you have now done their homework for them.
 
on the Q itself: Thats trivially easy. Iterate through every letter. Call a random function. 50% of cases go with upper case, 50% of cases with lower case.
 
12:48 PM
@NathanOliver Ah. Right. My reasoning was "there's no dupe, so I prefer to answer rather than to wait for the bad answers that will come eventually anyway...".
 
Probably an exercise on the concept of a loop
 
@EricD Makes sense. To me though the whole thing need to just be shut down.
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 1.13.0.2.
 
@Yam alive
 
@Yam die
 
Yam
@AshishAhujaツ What do you think?
@Magisch You need to be a room owner, moderator, or Sam to kill me.
 
:(
 
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 3 posts.
 
What??!
3 post only?
 
12:50 PM
@Yam help
 
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 5 posts.
 
Sam
Yam employs lazy-loading.
 
@Yam You're lazy
 
Yam
@kayess I'm (yet) another chatbot who lives in this room. I check up on all requests to see if they warrant reopening (I'm not 100% accurate, so only take my messages as suggestions). You can check out what I can do by using: commands. My GH repo can be found here.
 
12:51 PM
@Yam commands
 
Yam
commands ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Prints this beautifully formatted message.
stats  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Displays the number of posts being watched.
help ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Pretty self-explanatory...
alive  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Checks if I'm still running.
die  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I die a slow and painful death.
 
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 11 posts.
 
@Sam. If you coding a new bot is you having children (you are a bot), then who is the mother?
 
Is there some web front-end to Yam ?
 
12:51 PM
@kayess nope.
 
@Magisch Teh creator -> rene
 
Web-front is only for smokedetector and queen (as far as i know)
 
Sam
@Magisch uh
 
Sorry, had to be afk. Reading your messages now.
 
Sam
@kayess Nope... But you've just given me the idea. :)
 
12:54 PM
@Sam :-)
 
To create a web-front, what exactly do you need to do?? Do you have to automatically produce html code, or what??
 
@Seth Ok it's a dupe, but I can't close a Swift question to this one, users and/or OP will kill me. :p
 
can we find out which posts Yam is watching?
 
@tripleee nope
at least not using commands
 
@tripleee hence why I'm asking
 
12:55 PM
Yam is watching everything
If its a thing, Yam is watching it
 
@Magisch It took me 10 sec to answer, the effort was minimal, I'm ok. :) I just thought "shit, did I just post an answer to a closable question?"... and apparently yes. :p
 
Sam
@AshishAhujaツ It'll depend on the application.
 
@Sam So for a bot (for eg. Yam), what exactly will you have to do?
 
Sam
@tripleee Not yet
 
@AshishAhujaツ Talk to the domain experts first and create the common ubiquitous language for common business nouns and verbs in the problem domain
 
12:58 PM
Do we close that SD question?
 
Sam
@AshishAhujaツ Crate a basic page which updates via websockets.
 
@kayess ??
 
@Sam Noooo, read two lines above
@AshishAhujaツ ?
 
@Sam Oh okay.
@kayess (1/2) ?
 

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