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6:10 PM
can we migrate this to SU? stackoverflow.com/q/37616521/2282538
 
@PraveenKumar hmmm? Which?
 
@Braiam I'm not active on SU, but it does seem worth migrating. It is answerable (and well-answered at that) and not really programming related.
 
@ryanyuyu exactly
 
@Braiam I would say so. There are 2 votes not for that so, the next 3 should be SU.
 
no, I forgot you need 4 users for migration
 
6:12 PM
oh
 
so, please don't vote now
 
really, that's too bad
sorry I cast mine already
mod flag then?
 
I was thinking that the off topic one was migration
yeah, could be
 
Just mod flag to move.
 
want to do the honors?
 
6:13 PM
I did my mod flag of the day already ;)
 
I think moderators will just wait for the discussion to settle down meta.stackoverflow.com/q/324461/792066
 
@NathanOliver Just one? I flagged 2 robo already :p
 
Dupe accounts :p
 
ah oops. Didn't realize that there was meta discussion on that already. At any rate I stand by my decision that migration looks like a good idea.
thanks for the clarifying comment @gunr2171
 
no problem
event soon, let's try closey again
 
6:17 PM
@Closey I choose you!
 
Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
 
@closey blame
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 951ae800 on master, running for 26 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
 
alright, well let's see what happens
@Closey refresh tags
 
6:20 PM
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
 
@Closey next 5 tags
 
I hit an error while trying to run 'Next Tags':
0: Unable to post message
----
at SOCVR.Chatbot.Extensions.PostMessageOrThrow (ChatExchangeDotNet.Room chatRoom, System.Object message) <0x41237520 + 0x0004f> in <filename unknown>:0
at SOCVR.Chatbot.Sede.SedeAccessor.GetTags (ChatExchangeDotNet.Room chatRoom, System.String email, System.String password) <0x4124bc10 + 0x000ef> in <filename unknown>:0
at SOCVR.Chatbot.ChatbotActions.Commands.Tags.NextTags.RunAction (ChatExchangeDotNet.Message incomingChatMessage, ChatExchangeDotNet.Room chatRoom) <0x4124cef0 + 0x0021f> in <filename unknown>:0
 
May I try something to see if closey handles it?
 
@gunr2171 Tag data has been refreshed.
 
Sam
Woot
 
6:20 PM
haha race condition?
 
@ryanyuyu the ONE know problem
 
Sam
Everything's normal.
 
it takes like, 3 seconds to refresh, and you managed to collide
 
@Closey next 5 tags
 
@Braiam Sorry, you are not in the Reviewer permission group. You can request access by running request permission to Reviewer.
 
6:21 PM
D:
@Closey request permission
 
@Closey add 792066 to reviewer
 
@Braiam Sorry, I don't understand that. Maybe you meant reject request [#].
@gunr2171 I've added @Braiam to the Reviewer group.
 
yay
 
@closey ಠ_ಠ
 
@Closey next 5 tags
 
6:21 PM
@ryanyuyu The next 5 tags are: 1337, 41, 37, 32, 28
 
5 hours ago, by gunr2171
Closey has an empty database, sorry. You'll need to add people / request permission back to the reviewer group to be tracked.
 
@closey request permission to reviewer
 
@Ferrybig I've created request #2 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
Sam
@Clo add ALL TEH PEOPLEZ!!!!1!! to reviewer
 
The following is a list of users requesting access to a permission group.
 | Request # | Display Name | User Id | Requesting | Requested At            |
 |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 | 2         | Ferrybig     | 1542723 | Reviewer   | 2016-06-06 18:22:11 UTC |
 
6:22 PM
@Closey approve request 2
 
@Sam Sorry, I don't understand that. Maybe you meant add [user id] to [group name].
@gunr2171 @Ferrybig has been added to the Reviewer group.
 
@closey request permission to reviewer
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I've created request #3 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
Are you leet at blinking?
 
@Clo do you still love me?
:(
 
6:22 PM
@Closey approve request 3
 
@gunr2171 @AlexanderO'Mara has been added to the Reviewer group.
 
@Tunaki 50 first dates?
 
@Closey help
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean status?
This is a chat bot for the SO Close Vote Reviewers chat room, developed by the SOCVR developers. For more information see the github page. Reply with commands to see a list of commands.
 
@Closey reviewer stats
 
6:23 PM
@ryanyuyu Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean status?
 
@Closey room stats
 
@Closey commands
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
 
@Closey request permission to reviewer
 
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
my audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
@gunr2171 I don't have enough data to produce those stats.
 
6:23 PM
of course
 
@TylerH I've created request #4 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
@Closey my stats
 
@Closey approve request 4
 
@AlexanderO'Mara You've reviewed 0 posts today.
 
@Closey approve request 4
 
6:24 PM
@gunr2171 @TylerH has been added to the Reviewer group.
@ryanyuyu That request has already been handled.
 
@Closey room stats
 
Now you tell me
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I don't have enough data to produce those stats.
 
closey is going to be chat rate limited soon, that's the most likey cause for the delay
@ryanyuyu you wouldn't be able to handle it anyways. need to be in the group for 1 day before you can process reqeusts
 
Now you tell me
 
6:26 PM
:P
 
@Closey start event
 
7456 need review
1319 reviews today
3328114 reviews all-time
The tags to work on are: , , .
 
Oh
is blinking still on?
 
well, technically, it's on, then it's off, then it's on again, and so on.
 
no, it is sticky
 
6:31 PM
@Closey refresh tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@rene Tag data has been refreshed.
 
@Closey next 10 tags
 
@rene The next 10 tags are: 41, 37, 32, 28, 26, 23, 22, 21, 21, 21
 
there ^
 
@Closey opt in
 
6:32 PM
@gunr2171 You are already opted-in to tracking, and have been in this state for 9 days, 23 hours, 1 minute, and 16 seconds. You may switch your preference by running opt out.
 
@Closey my stats
 
@AlexanderO'Mara You've reviewed 0 posts today.
 
hum....
 
@Closey room stats details
 
6:33 PM
@gunr2171 Today, 2 members have reviewed a total of 19 items.
 | User     | Review Items Today |
 |-------------------------------|
 | Tunaki   | 14                 |
 | ryanyuyu | 5                  |
 
@Closey You have no more close votes today; come back in 5 hours.
 
ok.... why aren't you getting the rest of us
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 951ae800 on master, running for 14 minutes and 6 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
 
@Closey my stats
 
@AlexanderO'Mara You've reviewed 0 posts today.
 
6:34 PM
@Clo my stats
 
@Tunaki You've reviewed 14 posts today (of which 1 was an audit). The time between your first and last review today was 9 minutes and 32 seconds, averaging to a review every 40 seconds.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I'm looking at the log, no new reviews are coming in
 
\o/
 
@gunr2171 Uh, ok...
 
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
6:34 PM
lol
 
reboot time
@Closey stop bot
 
@gunr2171 I'm shutting down...
 
noo
 
Did my name SQL-inject something again?
 
6:35 PM
Goodbye! (nagato v2 docker)
 
@AlexanderO'Mara yes, but no worries, Closey will hunt you down ....
 
Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 951ae800 on master, running for 16 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@gunr2171 I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
In C what is a taypedef?
 
6:42 PM
typo intended?
 
A typo
 
@rene It's a unicorn with 2 heads.
 
@gunr2171 yes, I copied that from the question
 
then it's a typo
 
@Tunaki OK, I'll get the waffles, one for each mouth ...
 
6:44 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara good news, closey is slow going through your reviews for today. once it catches up you'll get the message (I hope)
 
did someone mention waffles?
 
@QPaysTaxes It was @Tunaki, blame him
 
no no, not me!
 
Sam
Did someone mention trains?
 
@rene It is a typo of typedef. typedef is a keyword used to give create a new name for a type like typedef some_really_long_type_name short_name;. Now you can use short_name as a replacement for some_really_long_type_name
 
6:45 PM
no one mentions waffles, waffles are a part of every discussion. We sometimes choose not to mention waffles but they are always implied.
 
@NathanOliver OK , thx
 
np
The flower wants to C the world :)
 
@QPaysTaxes I won't say that but I'm currently filtered on that tag, yes
So I generate some close votes
 
wow, the puns are really heavy today
 
6:48 PM
and it is monday
 
equivalent Thursday for me.
 
Tunaki passed an audit!
 
I am the oracle.
 
gunr2171 passed an audit!
 
^ that doesn't look like a good post, just sayin'
 
6:58 PM
@gunr2171 answers are mostly not goodeither
 
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@TylerH I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@gunr2171 You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 27 minutes and 6 seconds, averaging to a review every 40 seconds.
 
@Closey my stats
 
@AlexanderO'Mara You've reviewed 31 posts today (of which 2 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 7 minutes and 28 seconds, averaging to a review every 14 seconds.
 
is that correct or did you do 40?
 
7:01 PM
@rene it sounds like type said in japanese or spanish
 
@Braiam Ah, for the localized version of C, makes sense
 
for spanish people, type sounds like taipe
 
7:12 PM
dem chat flags be flyng
 
where where
drama?
 
didn't have the time to look at one of them
I MISSED DRAMA
:(
 
@Shadow do you want a half decent pivot question?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Yeah C# room, guy complaining about the JS room.
 
rene passed a audit!
 
7:18 PM
@NathanOliver - Don't do that.
 
Don't send people to our room under some false guise of needing to attend to "drama".
We don't need it there, like you don't need it here.
 
@Tunaki reflagged all. Bit weird that the same chap appeared twice
 
I am a silent observer.
 
Recently silent observers have been trolling our room, so we are a little skeptical that it is possible to lurk without causing issues.
 
7:20 PM
@TravisJ I didn't send anyone anywhere. He asked where the flags were from and I told him. AFAIK that okay to do
 
Is it fine to incite some sort of mob mentality? Perhaps, but it is borderline.
 
Whatever, moving on.
 
Hello!
 
hi
 
7:24 PM
How to send private message to any user?
 
chat has no private messages, nor does the site itself
 
You can't.
 
@hubot Step 1, become a mod.
 
(well, moderators can, but that's different)
 
Step 2?
 
7:25 PM
I would send private notification to some user
 
@PetterFriberg acquire currency
 
@PetterFriberg No idea. Step 3 is PROFIT though.
 
I've now 116 points
 
lol, not sure about that, I guess step 2 is listen to all the rant!
 
7:26 PM
you can invite a user to chat by going to their chat profile
it will still be public, but there will only be the two of you
 
What is it: "We apologize for any inconvenience, but an unexpected error occurred while you were browsing our site.

It’s not you, it’s us. This is our fault."
?
 
@hubot you broke Stack Overflow
 
sigh
 
Ditto is a Pokemon, not a flag reason :)
 
7:36 PM
Can someone more versed in the english language sort this out for me? @TylerH you're help is needed as you are the root cause for that silly rule...
 
My life is complete. You used the correct emoticon style.
 
@rene He's saying that all alarms are clocks but not all clocks are alarms.
(alarm as in the Dutch wekker)
 
@rene your* :-P
 
oh
That is just to make my point
 
7:38 PM
if the tag fails 2, it most likely fails 3 and 4. What's the issue?
The conditions aren't distinct and overlap
 
I don't want a re-interpretation, I want it to cite Shog9's rules
@Adriaan yeah, something with klok en klepel
 
@Tunaki Reciprocity. He states that when when a tag meets all four criteria it's considered "good", however, if it fails all 4, that not necessarily entails that it is a bad tag.
 
but... that's not what is written?
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 27 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 36 seconds.
 
@Tunaki I haven't actually read through the post, just the comment
 
7:41 PM
What is the purpose of these points on Stack Exchange network?
 
post fixed
@rene
 
I saw, thanks
 
@hubot Reputation is a measure of how much the community trust you
 
I don't get the comment and I don't get how the edit fix addresses the comment. Probably time to take a coffee.
 
@NathanOliver it's a measure of how much of The Skeet is in you, young padawan
 
7:44 PM
@NathanOliver s/measure/approximation/
 
Are these point useful in real life for example while hiring to job?
 
It is possible that your Stack Overflow account helps to get you hired.
 
Or on university/college?
 
Otherwise they are just digital points that at any moment could be lost forever.
 
no it's only virtual stuff don't worry about it
 
7:46 PM
but the repzzzz it's real!! the green!!! the button!! needs MOAR!
 
@hubot yeah, no, I'd worry if a business base all their contractions on reputation
 
Tunaki is addicted to the repz
 
Shiny badges!
 
lol, yeah they are real!
 
the heat... is real
it feels boiling on this side of the planet, anyone else is being cook?
 
7:49 PM
So I should worry about these points if I'm going to hire?
 
@hubot err... no
 
@hubot you might want to check out the water cooler for hiring and job advice.
I've asked before there for help with my resume and such
 
@hubot If you are going to be including you SO account on your resume maybe. If you have a lot of bad content it may turn recruiters off.
 
Should I not to worry these points?
 
@hubot I don't think you're hiring anyone for a long while. As for you soliciting, no, not at all. It's a cool bonus if your potential boss knows SO, otherwise it's of no use
 
7:51 PM
and most important SO is a community so if we stop worrying about our self it will get better
 
I understand
Are these points or answers on SO represent my intelligence or knowledge?
 
@hubot they are earned in the majority from upvotes, i.e. when people think you gave a useful answer/question they upvote you
 
@ArtOfCode Smokey Feedback.
 
@hubot only to a limited extent. More reputation is generally associated with a higher number of useful (upvoted) answers, and those tend to be associated with more knowledge.
 
7:54 PM
@hubot just as a note, if you're concerned about job applications, it might be best to leave out you're 15 from your profile.
 
@hubot Whenever I look up potential candidates, if they have a Stack Overflow profile, I look at their 10~20 top answers, to determine their approximate skill level
 
@ryanyuyu curious, because the deep knowledge (unless you use analogies) normally goes unrewarded
 
@MadaraUchiha Added one to it! :P
I haven't seen an answer with such a score and no negatives.
 
I have to go!
 
7:59 PM
Bye
 
@Braiam yeah it's still a lot of luck of what kind of knowledge you have. Large audiences and all that. It's still a decent measure of communication skills.
 
8:16 PM
@PraveenKumar yeah, I gathered. Whose, when, etc?
 
Sam
Closey needs more coffee.
 
@PetterFriberg something like this?
 
@rene I see "dark", but no "bright"?
 
@Braiam No, I'm no longer on the bright side of life
 
gasp you are a shadow flower!
 
8:30 PM
:(
Moving Sam also.
 
Thought ya'll would be interested in this. I'm running Parsey McParseface on question titles. Of 50k 'bad' (closed, score <= -1) titles, these are the two most common dependencies:
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 mins ago, by Undo
 492 in (ADP) -> php (NOUN)
 627 in (ADP) -> java (NOUN)
 
@Undo ADP? NOUN?
 
@Tunaki parts of speech, Parsey stuff.
 
@Undo so it means that Java is bad, right? :D I already knew that :)
 
Sam
lol
 
8:33 PM
If it happens again we might want to shutdown closey
 
Sam
k
 
@Undo Parsey McParseface really?
 
@rene How did you SD K my report in charcoal HQ without typing anything?
Are you a ninja flower now?
Ooh
so a parse AI
I only know of MOUSE AI
 
8:35 PM
@Undo I like that. Let's petition to have PHP renamed to Parsey McParseface
 
@rene sorry, was out for a safety meeting
 
@gunr2171 what goes on in a safety meeting?
 
hitting each other with chairs
4
 
fire drills? tornado drills?
 
The idea with a safety meeting is that it's hard for someone to run over themselves with a forklift or something if they're not near the forklift.
 
8:37 PM
we talked today about "heat dangers". We work with high temp furnaces, so don't get overheated and such.
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Even though you have nothing to do with them?
(as a dev)
 
@Undo I don't imagine most programmers need forklift safety instruction.
 
@ryanyuyu you never know. might want to kill your boss with it one day.
 
I still walk around the machinery as needed. But yes, most of my time is spent in the cubicle.
 
On the contrary, how many programmers do you look at and say "that guy could totally be trusted with a forklift"?
 
8:39 PM
Depends on if I'm programming the forklift or driving it manually.
 
I hate safety meetings bcz they seem so obvious what they are talking about, but for the last 3 years we haven't gotten our bonuses bcz ppl don't follow the safety rules and we have a loss of time accident
 
Hmm. Reminds me of that overly dramatic German workplace safety video.
 
@blahfunk oh, welcome to the room!
 
ty
 
@Magisch pure magic, or I have access to the db...
 
8:42 PM
@blahfunk basically, people get bored at the meetings, don't pay attention, gets into accidents, don't get bonus, still go to the meeting bored because they know someone will screw up.
 
safety meetings are almost certainly an insurance thing
 
yep
 
^^ ah that sounds like the truth. It always comes down to money
 
last year we had a bad accident... I work in the electrical industry (database guy and developer), and last year someone was working on a live wire and wasn't wearing gloves for some stupid reason. He's still alive, but he can't talk anymore. ended up on full disability
 
The company would really rather you not mangle yourself with a log splitter, but it's their liability insurance that will take the hit.
 
8:43 PM
yes, they are, like our random drug tests are also an insurance thing
 
@blahfunk I bet that was quite the shock
and back to work
 
I keep forgetting that companies that hire programmers often do stuff other than programming.
 
rimshot
 
Sam
@ryanyuyu ikr
 
@Undo not actually, insurances companies tend to not owning the insurances themselves
 
8:44 PM
huh?
 
two day week for me this week... off to a festival :)
I've been ready for this for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG time
 
have fun!
So a c# library I just found has a "quick start". It's a 61 page PDF.
 
@Undo they are bundled into finance instruments and sold to someone else, so if the company has to pay an insurance, actually is a lose to the owner of the instrument not to the company
 
Sam
@gunr2171 In 25 different langs?
 
Ok, I'm out
 
Sam
8:48 PM
@blahfunk Enjoy yourself.
@rene Bye out.
 
Sam
lol
 
bye rene
 
ty. I will definitely
 
@gunr2171 graphics library?
 
8:50 PM
Machine learning / neural networks
I'm interested in it, doing a bit of research
 
oh
 
Sam
Sounds like fun.
 
Jun 1 at 20:43, by ArtOfCode
There's now an API available for metasmoke. Documentation available here, ping me if you want a key to use it.
^ my target
 
@gunr2171 If you want local data, send me a ping and I can get you something usable
 
ok, but it's going to be a long while until I need it
 
8:52 PM
sure
 
and with that, i'm out for the day, cya
 
Sam
Cya
 
well, this was disturbing meta.askubuntu.com/a/15520/169736
 
what?!
 
wow. that's not good
 
8:59 PM
that could explain the amount of revenge downvotes I got without being reversed...
 

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