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JAL
1:00 PM
hi all
 
Plop @JAL!
 
Hi @JAL
 
Hi @JAL
 
Hiya @JAL
 
JAL
o/ all
 
1:02 PM
hey
 
JAL
Hey @EricD any ideas on that Swift UTF-8 question I pinged you with last night?
morning gunr!
 
@JAL Martin's answer made sense - perso, I don't know more about this. :/
 
Plop @gunr2171!
 
plop to you as well
 
JAL
@EricD Yeah, sucks that there is no accessor. I'm doing a code golf challenge and my Swift answer looks ugly with the String converstion
 
1:05 PM
I'm going to CodeGolf in Java.
 
undelete please. I posted an answer, he accepted and 3 seconds later deleted it stackoverflow.com/questions/38076607
 
question baaan
 
you still lost the accept apparently though
 
that's a prerequisite for self-deletion
 
I don't want the 15.
 
1:07 PM
Well, have an upvote anyways
 
bracing for vandalism
 
@Drew it is undeleted, you can comment if you want
 
yeah you have 40 instead:P
 
JAL
I added a comment, let me know if you want me to remove it so Drew can add his own
 
JavaScript basic math -- hot JavaScript question of today. I have no idea how possibly it got 7 upvotes. I don't even know if has a MCVE, and I would VTC it as "lacks minimal understanding" if I could.
 
1:13 PM
quite disturbing how many times he might have done that in 3 years, keeping only the questions with decent history for himself perhaps
 
> How is this a Hot Network Question?
 
JAL
@Tunaki sounds like SO to me...
@EricD congrats on 25k!
 
@JAL Thanks! :D
 
@JAL I know I spotted it, no need for a flag
 
@Tunaki O_O I thought you were talking about the rep
 
1:23 PM
Undeleted by OP when deleted by review -> automatic system flag
 
JAL
@Tunaki oh right, that's one of the cases where an auto-flag will be raised
ty
 
back
 
front
 
full-stack
 
1:33 PM
@Tunaki I got +75 for this
Abandon Hope
 
@Magisch well that answer got 600 rep (60 upvotes). 75 is way smaller than 600 :D
 
JAL
@nicael that question is controversial, look at the timeline
 
@nicael Probably needs to be locked by a mod
Closed and reopened 3x
 
@nicael I will move this to the graveyard, its scope is being discussed on Meta right now, so we don't want to have an open cv-pls request on that.
 
JAL
@Tunaki link?
 
JAL
@Tunaki thanks
 
Hello!
 
YES ninja'ed bluefeet
 
1:54 PM
So what do you guys think about the C++17 question and its meta discussion?
 
Didn't check it
 
@NobodyNada The answer to C++17 is 18
 
@NobodyNada I already voted to close once.
 
Everyome agreed with me until I linked to the meta discussion from the C++17 question
 
JAL
1:56 PM
A bounty question I answered is turning into a library request.
Spy voice: "Abort, Abort!"
 
@NobodyNada I don't think it is too broad... I don't think it is very useful either. It won't ever serve as a dupe target for example. Just of list of things with 200+ links and that's it.
Maybe I'll do the same for Java 9...
I could do a dump of the OpenJDK JIRA with Target Release = 9 and post a bullet point list with each ticket.
 
What the faa?
 
What would be useful is having a canonical ready for each of the new features.
 
^Yes. That would be much better.
 
2:02 PM
@Tunaki Shouldn't that rather fit in Documentation?
 
@JacobGray Oh that looks nice... It's for !
 
@Kyll Maybe. I still don't picture Doc in all this.
 
I want it too.
 
@Tunaki No one does...
 
JAL
@JacobGray wow, someone else who actually uses brackets...
I thought I was the only one!
 
2:03 PM
@JAL I love brackets :D
 
JAL
@JacobGray Same! The autocomplete is just phenomenal, especially for html
I've only done some basic editing in it but I love it for web work
 
@JacobGray getFollowers.js -> setInterval(postCatPictures, 1000 * 60 * 5)
 
SublimeText ♡♥
@Kyll Grrr... Meaow...
Looks spammy to me.. Plus the user is not there.
 
This whole thing is icky
12 answers, 11 link-only, 1 code-only
 
Wow. I've flagged three answers as VLQ/NAA on this page just to realize there's like a dozen more. :/ Horrible.
 
2:10 PM
Can this question be deleted?
 
JAL
Yeah don't flag all of those answers, just vote to delete the question
(unless you want free flags)
 
@Kyll In 2 days
 
afk
 
@NathanOliver I'll request it in two days then
 
OK. I look forward to seeing it :)
 
2:17 PM
@NathanOliver Don't forget that 20k+ users can vote to delete questions scored -3 or less immediately
 
@JonClements I havent but the Q is at +15 right now.
 
Ahhh - that does make it trickier :)
 
unless you are a mod. wink, wink, nudge nudge ;)
 
morning
 
2:20 PM
mroning Plop ryan
 
yo
 
I haven't reviewed stuff in a while... I'll change that today.
 
@NathanOliver Well - it's closed now anyway - fair amount of views and not really causing harm - so I'll leave it to you guys if you feel like it :)
 
@JonClements No problem. I am not sure if I want to delete it or not since it is closed. We may just need to purge some of those answers. Plus side is I get a couple days to think about it :)
 
^ the title alone was a dead giveaway
 
2:26 PM
One would think there is a filter on a title containing "Where to start".
 
JAL
@Kyll LOL I know the guy who answered that question
I hired him to be my replacement after I quit my first job
 
small world
 
JAL
I also interviewed a 60k+ iOS power user to join my current team, but he didn't accept
small SO world
 
Well apparently there is only like 18 million developers right now.
 
2:29 PM
@JAL Too bad, flagged his answer as VLQ =p
 
I feel that number is low but I don't know where to get the "right" number
 
JAL
ha
 
@NathanOliver Jon Skeet's IMPACT count
 
user1228
Smoke detector should automatically trigger on any post tagged [seo] stackoverflow.com/questions/37761049/…
 
JAL
2:35 PM
That tag should be burned, it's going to be a tough task with over 6k questions...
 
@Will Why? That does not look like spam. Smokey is only for finding spam and offensive material.
 
user1228
@NathanOliver I'm offended! That's all that matters nowadays, right? More dumpster fires stackoverflow.com/questions/37162340/…
 
meh. I would not call that offensive material.
 
JAL
Will offended? What is this, meta? :P
 
@JAL THIS IS SPARTA SOCVR
4
 
2:47 PM
@Will Suggestion: rewrite in Seinfeld-ese. "Have you seen this Google Search for Mobile? What's up with that?!"
 
@Will Will you be offended if I rework some pages of IDYB?
 
@NathanOliver It's incredibly offensive if you replace every occurrence of "google" with "BLEEEEP!"
 
replace any verb with "BLEEP" and you've got an offensive statement
 
Hiya
 
2:53 PM
Hi @BhargavRao
 
Hi o/
 
\o Hi
 
Hi o/
 
yo o/
 
Plop
 
2:57 PM
BLEEP!
 
MOGSDAD!
 
well, time to get my boots out of the closet...
 
were they made for walking?
 
no
 
I think we have to update our FAQ and include a new rule:
Rule 42: *Please follow the train(s); Don't wreck them!*
 
2:59 PM
but they are steel-toed
only because you skipped numbers
:)
 
anyways
today is going by really slow
> I'm trying to install the PHP SVN extension
It is a programming tool
 
He's trying to install and configure it tho
 
Installing SQL server: on topic
Configuring SQL server: mildly not on topic
 
@Rizier123 Nice trolling on the comments over there xD
Dem NAA religions
 
3:05 PM
Ok. Retracted
 
@Kyll It's not even trolling. Where is the line from a real answer to NAA? "The answer is on SO" -> Is that NAA? But you could say he tries to answer the question by giving a hint and pointing to the solution?!
 
Looks like this code is ancient... Like at least 20 years old? I was playing with HTML Layers in Dreamweaver and JS 1.1 when I was a 2 year old kid. Now I am 27!Praveen Kumar 1 min ago
 
@Machavity Might want to request burying your cv-pls too then
 
@Kyll Can you bin it please?
 
@Machavity Only ROs can
 
3:07 PM
@Machavity done
 
@Rizier123 If a post contributes to solving the issue, it's an answer. Now, you could argue that "the answer is on a search engine" is also a contribution of sorts, albeit a bad one. There's indeed a lot of ambiguity. Have you read @Tuna's post on that?
 
@Kyll I have to say I hate that phrase: "It tries to answer the question". Does someone "tries" to answer the question just by posting an answer and pushing that post button? — Rizier123 13 mins ago
Heh
Trollometer shows 0.8/1.
Not bad, not bad.
 
ikr
 
Note to self: Never post on meta when Rizier's on
 
3:17 PM
@TIPS that really exist?
 
user1228
@Kyll Absolutely not! That's on my fifth back burner. Disappointed I couldn't get Jeckyl to work with the URL naming structure, so creating new pages is kinda a bummer right now... I've got a couple ideas for workarounds, but until I get something working...
 
@Braiam As much as Bart does, yeah.
 
@Will Yay!
 
Sam
3:46 PM
Hiya
 
Plop Sam
 
Hiya Sam
 
Hi sam
 
Sam
Wanna try booting Closey up again?
 
Sure. Was she bad again?
 
Sam
3:50 PM
yeah
This morning she kinda lost it.
 
Must be because she's jealous of queen
 
Tuna is troubling her, We must reboot Tuna first.
 
And the symbiosis between @queen and @rene
 
I blame @Tunaki. Ever since they became an item she has been nothing but issues.
 
3:51 PM
o/
 
Hello everyone! (Sam's Backup Server)
 
@NathanOliver "The Tuna Effect"...
 
I am voting leave for Tunaxit.
 
Sam
ಠ_ಠ
2
 
3:54 PM
What should we do if a user states they are 12 years old in a question? Edit it Out?
 
@AshishAhujaツ increment it++
 
@Rizier123 meaning report it to the mods?
 
@AshishAhujaツ Worth raising a mod flag?
 
@ryanyuyu I dunno
 
@AshishAhujaツ I would not edit it out. That may be against "The Law". It is up to you whether to flag or not.
I had this just a month or to ago, searching the transcript...
 
3:56 PM
Really only SE devs/CMs can do anything about that. But still maybe worth the flag.
 
@NathanOliver alright. I won't edit. Should I flag or not?
@ryanyuyu got it. Flagging
 
@Rizier123 thx. I'm flagging
 
Kids taking to digital devices at such a young age is not healthy. Goes out to play COD with a 3yr old
 
3:59 PM
@JacobGray I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@NathanOliver got it. Although, I already flagged :(
Oh well, it has been taken care by a puppy!
 
Sam
@BhargavRao Enjoy the raging.
 
Jacob Gray passed a audit!
 
@AshishAhujaツ I escalated it to the CM team
 
Oh well, Jon edited out that part. @Jon should we do that when we see such a post?
@JonClements thx
 
4:01 PM
@AshishAhujaツ no harm editing it out - if it still leaves a good question that could get answers - the age isn't important - but if you can flag anyway and point to the revision and let us know what's going on - we can forward it to the team
 
That was a bad edit, grumble grumble.
 
@AshishAhujaツ Its OK. It is a gray area. I came up with this rule of thumb: If they are a good contributor and they have a history then leave them alone, they know how to use the site and it has not been a problem. If they are pretty new then flag so an issue does not come up. I will not remove the age information even if I ignore it as CM's cannot ignore it and I would be complicit in that person violating the site rules.
 
@JonClements go it. Will do next time
@NathanOliver I see. The user this time was a new 1 rep user, so I think the flag was correct
 
@AshishAhujaツ I would have
 
Yay, my script works :P
 
4:03 PM
Woot
Now it is times for the RO's to do what we do and BREAK ALL TEH THINGZ
 
Search for "12 year old" in so search and see fun ;)
 
@BhargavRao Search for "5 year old" :P
 
@BhargavRao is the FBI going to knock on my door if I do?
 
Night o/
 
4:06 PM
@BhargavRao I saw that too ><
 
JAL
> im 12 and what is this
 
@BhargavRao basically, they are over 13 right now...
 
@Rizier123 Wow, That top question is too broad.
@Braiam Yep, Shows the laxity of the SO guys.
 
Jacob Gray passed an audit!
 
4:10 PM
rene is still smiling over there for over 20 hours, is that normal? --->
 
how often do you see flowers in the wild change facial expressions?
 
Give me teh codez!
 
@queen We need a C++ version
 
@JacobGray You've reviewed 40 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 15 hours, 42 minutes, and 20 seconds, averaging to a review every 23 minutes and 33 seconds.
 
4:14 PM
@PetterFriberg It is technically not a typo. He just didn't put one minute effort into it.
 
That... indentation...
 
ok, thanks, yeah was unsure..
 
@gunr2171 Don't know. I always run them over with my lawn mower >:D
 
I think that's a federal offence or something here....
 
that is one ugly way to program PHP @PetterFriberg
 
4:23 PM
PHP always ugly : ), these damn interpreted languages...
long live java : )
 
you mean byte code that is interpreted :p
 
@PetterFriberg That message took a loooong time :P
 
ikr
 
: ) I can't spell so I need the compiler to help me out....
 
4:27 PM
Am I being too harsh thinking this should be closed and deleted? stackoverflow.com/q/37813946
 
@Drew Well, the OP did no research before asking, to the point that I don't really think the question adds any value
 
I don't think so. The question is how to use mysqli_connect which should be a quick google search.
 
@Machavity Yeah java a bit longer but the IDE writes all the code ; )
 
I have very little clue of java
or OOP in general
But at least I got a vantage level english cert from the state now that for some reason cost 150 damn euros >_>
 
4:50 PM
@tuna , the early days :
 
@Magisch That is how I imagine @Tunaki
 
What image best describes a close vote request?
 
@JacobGray this?
 
@NathanOliver Good enough :P
 
4:56 PM
:)
 
One for deletion votes, if you ever need it.
 
JAL
love dr strangelove
 
haha
 
does anyone have a question they are dying to send a for?
 
@Sam sure go ahead
@Clo alive?
 
5:02 PM
@Tunaki I'm alive and kicking!
 
Don't kick too much but ok.
 
JAL
guys get a room
:D
 
@JAL theyre married anyways
 
i.stack.imgur.com/UgRN8.png This userscript is pretty great with that image :P
 
:)
I love that image for that
 
JAL
5:25 PM
 
@JAL I don't think so, the question focuses on why Facebook apparently uses <i> and it seems there are 'good' reasons...
 
@JAL Yes, it is absolutely pob and I had voted to close it as such (and it did get closed but was reopened).
 
@JAL Looks POB to me. Awful practice. It is a triumph of performance over semantics. is an opinion
 
JAL
yeah I agree, voted
 
I cannot vote again, otherwise I would.
 
JAL
5:30 PM
Ended up protecting it as well
speaking of, anyone know a way to search for questions you have protected?
 
I wish they'd raise the rep to answer a protected
 
JAL
@Machavity same, but I think that would cause bigger issues
 
@Machavity Agreed, I've never protected a question because I've never felt it would have made a difference. (I'll admit it is possible that some of the earlier deleted answers were posted when the author had less rep but in all cases it would not have prevented the answer that made me think about protection in the first place.)
 
@JAL meta.stackoverflow.com/q/327034/3933332 Well that happened fast.
 
JAL
seriously
closed in < 1 minute
 
5:37 PM
15 seconds
 
bluefeet must have her air Jordan's on. She is quick today :)
 
Those OP that didn't do their proper research...
:p
 
JAL
at least the feature request is under consideration: meta.stackexchange.com/q/269628/242209
 
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Rizier123 in MSE I asked that for very specific reasons
 
5:40 PM
@JacobGray What icon set are you using? (Numix?)
 
@BhargavRao No idea
 
JAL
@Braiam link?
 
NUKE THAT
Great you can take your coffee now.
 
Even now?
 
5:45 PM
@NathanOliver Damn, I was about to dupe that with stackoverflow.com/q/28251314/4099593
 
Sorry.
 
Goldies FIGHT, my money is on Nathan. GO GO GO.
 
Feel free to open and close it
@Tunaki ha ha I conceded. Now i win all the monies
 
I added a comment there, But this looks even more comprehensive stackoverflow.com/q/2817869/4099593
 
@queen no idea
 
5:53 PM
@Tunaki You got to keep your money. (closed the other post as dupe)
close that sd post.
 

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