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9:00 AM
@AndyK A [tag:cv-pls] request is a call for others to go and inspect the scope of a question, and vote or refute accordingly
You may type them by hand, or use a script (I'll let you find it =p)
 
Seriously someone should save this conversation between @Kyll and @AndyK and add to FAQ or so it's useful
 
> A complete step-by-step introduction to moderation activity and SOCVR, volume 1 of 7
2
 
@kayess I was not aware of the rules but by observing the system's behavior, questions just poped out
 
@kayess Don't worry about rene. It has been raining for days here in netherlands, he will drown soon..
2
 
@AndyK Don't get me wrong, it's useful that you are asking :)
@TimCastelijns hahaha
 
9:02 AM
@AndyK This room also engages in fighting spam via a bot, @SmokeDetector
a report now would be really really handy, come on spammers
 
and duplicates : )
 
and duplicates, yes
 
and reopens
 
Can't ever count on spammers heh.
 
and burnination requests
 
9:03 AM
and deletes
 
yes, also
 
@kayess, that is fine. I know you're honest in your feedback
 
___^ dupe I win!
 
@AndyK ^ queen detects duplicate in comments
Also rude comments, but it's still in testing phase
 
a nice movie
 
9:04 AM
@AndyK that was Smokey and his possible spam/crap/etc reports
 
Ah come on, I switched tab for 10 seconds and I miss a report
 
lol
 
Thanks for explaining the rules @Kyll
 
Wait wait
It's not over
 
@Kyll Made you a screenshot
 
9:05 AM
'tis fine, ty
 
When @Kyll gets going, he won't stop
 
haha you guys will just freak out poor @AndyK with these zillion features of SOCVR
 
throws @Kyll at @kayess
 
No throwing activity while I'm typing bites Mag
 
9:07 AM
wondering what Kyll is typing...
 
catches @Kyll rethrows @Tunaki
 
Type faster!
 
@Ferry Good morning \o
 
@Tunaki Gonna quote that one for rene
 
Lets play Hot Potato with @Kyll
Hot Kylltato, if you will
 
9:08 AM
@kayess lol
 
@Tunaki You missed the greatest @rene gif ever posted
 
@Magisch The bouncing one?
 
I didn't. It is starred 10 times.
 
@kayess This one
 
@Magisch ahaha, we should enhance it by adding a chainsaw to the flowers "hand"
 
9:09 AM
@AndyK Something this room excels at doing is nuking spam. There are two kinds of flags we call red flags. Those are the spam and rude or offensive flags. 6 flags of such kind delete a post, heavily blame the author of the post, and place strong heuristic data against their IP. Smokey finds out potential spam, this room goes and check. If it's confirmed spam, we flag it and destroy it in a matter of seconds.
Also has tea.
 
This
is
 
And dogs
 
correct
 
@AndyK notice @Tunaki is our word preprocessor bot
 
well if I wasn't interrupted every five seconds maybe I'd ytpe correctly
 
9:10 AM
ytpe -----------------------------------------------------------------^^
 
^--- second-degree humour, lost on anyone below 3k
 
@kayess o/
 
@queen is basically @Tuna's dupe finder
 
Tuna is the resident fish
Kyll is the resident squirrel
 
Yeah other then flagging Tuna has some awesome powers
 
9:13 AM
@Magisch Come on.
 
^ SOCVR ~= Animal Farm
 
@AndyK That's all for now. Moderation is a fairly complex activity, and we have an entire toolset dedicated to making it better (read: more complex \o/) Feel free to hang around in the room to discuss about moderation (sigh who am I kidding)
 
@Kyll You sigh alot today :D
 
@Seth It's Monday.
 
Kyll
 
9:17 AM
iz me
 
Have you read my email
 
I have
 
@Kyll Oh right :c
 
@Magisch yesh. I answered in the Ministry, pick whichever you like
 
@Tunaki just closed a dupe in 24sec :D
 
9:26 AM
20 seconds actually
:)
 
@kyll I'll pop around
 
\o
 
o/
 
@AndyK Have fun :D
 
Now that @Kyll is done typing, we can play Hot Kylltato with him
throws to @tuna
 
9:28 AM
@Magisch: You're 2 votes away from a reversal badge :P
On a closed question :D
 
Link me and I'll make it one vote away
 
@Cerbrus That could get hairy
I had one answer that sat at 19 for 3 months before it got to 20
 
@TIPS maybe read the post before deciding
 
Mmmmmmmmmaybe
 
9:30 AM
@Magisch :)
 
Wow, someone dv'd it o.O
Laaaaame
 
I reversed my vote, to see if Mag has a heart that can be broken
 
Someone downvoted it, too
throws @Kyll Into a cactus (rene)
 
NO NOT A CACTUS
cc @gunr
 
\o/ my #5 Meta reversal
 
9:35 AM
Got it yet? :P
 
Quick everyone, undo your upvote!
Just curious, can you actually "loose" the badge?
 
@Seth This calls for tests
 
don't bother, it wouldn't make sense
 
you cannot
 
9:36 AM
@Kyll I like your way of thinking :3
Seems like no tests are needed though '-'
 
but we don't organize votes
 
we only organize thrown kylls
and thrown tunas
 
and water renes
 
maybe, lacks MCVE for now
 
@Cerbrus have you seen the queen, she is hand crafted for you, if RO's add [javascript] to room tag.
 
9:40 AM
I'm going to the store, anybody need anything?
 
Some honey for me, plz
 
@PetterFriberg Eh? wha?
 
I'll take a cola :D
 
honey and cola, got it
some soil for rene perhaps
 
@TimCastelijns Can you bring some fresh apples?
 
9:41 AM
@Cerbrus she can find all duplicates in javascript and notify you in real time
 
That's neat
How does it work?
 
@Magisch yes how many would you like
 
@Magisch There's a spelling mistake on your profile I believe ô.ô It says "chacoal HQ chatroom" on there.
 
@Cerbrus It checks dupe flags and "potential duplicate" comments every 2 minutes or so
 
every minute you mean
 
9:43 AM
I mean: How do I get notified by her?
@PetterFriberg That seems kinda... odd, to add here
 
@que add [javascript]
 
@Tunaki Tag have been added to room and duplicate notifications for hammer in tag are available
 
@que Plop
 
Buzz buzz
 
@queen add user 1835379 Cerbrus 3
 
9:44 AM
User: (1835379) Cerbrus as Tag owner added
 
@Drew \o
 
Ops
 
@TimCastelijns 3
 
What the number for Hammer? :D
 
9:44 AM
3
 
@queen add user 1835379 Cerbrus 2
 
User: (1835379) Cerbrus as Hammer updated
 
2
 
42
@queen help
 
This is a registered stack app SOCVFinder that notify about possible duplicates and cherry pick questions to review, see quick guide for commands. In this room commands are limited send commands to display available
 
9:44 AM
oops thought we were counting
 
@queen wait, @Cerbrus owns a tag? o.0
 
I do now! :D
 
Congrats, you'll be notified of dupe JS flags live
 
@Cerbrus you basically send opt-in [javascript] to her
 
Notified how?
 
9:46 AM
Ping
Like me above ^^^^
 
Right... I was more thinking like a separate room
I kinda really very much hate in-my-face automated notifications
Hehe...
 
Some people just don't get it. Account active for one year, and now they post a question in an answer... ::rolleyes::
 
meh
 
Clearly @queen doesn't escape special characters
 
It's the square brackets
 
9:55 AM
Yeah need to fix that sooner or later... [ --> \[
 
Does that work?
 
Is this NAA?
 
Woot
 
D:
 
@Magisch I'd say VLQ
 
9:56 AM
I didn't think it was possible
@PetterFriberg I'll fix it in chatexchange, this is more general
 
@Magisch The Question itself is terribad too
 
and has a useless edit to reject
 
@EricD Bad question, bad answer, bad edits... Humm...
 
Exactly.
 
@Tunaki hmm no that will not work... only when inside link, I need to fix it
 
9:59 AM
@PetterFriberg [[Test]] Looks like it is general. I'll fix that tonight
 
[\[Test\]]
 
nah but still closed
 
@Tunaki What was in there? "Skin, infiltrates into the skin, and" sounds a bit weird
 
blargh, more SunIT spam
can someone in Metasmoke get a figure on how much they spam? I discussed with a mod (madara or undo iirc) that if we manage to grab some figures on how much they spam we can block their links in posts
 
10:08 AM
183... Yeah
Better use the Contact form rather than Meta though
 
So, training in title + sunit in body = 183 hits, all spam, over the past 10 months. That's 2 per 3 days.
 
Sounds about right.
 
@Kyll or let the lurking ninjas read along here anyway ;)
 
Oh wait, it's 4 - 4 on the starring contest with Madara. Close fight.
 
@Tunaki Dem star abuses
 
10:10 AM
@Kyll Hooh, no it's not. one doesn't have " training" in the title and is not spam (from programmers.SE); so " sunit" in the body + " training" in the title seems a good fit
 
Mh.
 
@FOX9000 spam
 
rejected
 
why didn't you choose spam? Adding unrelated random links reek of spam to me
 
Oh yeah, we also monitor edit suggestions @AndyK. See above post from FOX9000
 
10:21 AM
@Adriaan training on legit posts in and flagging anything which lacks common keywords might be more robust
 
@MadaraUchiha hnt, click the graph button and it shows the recent spam in a graph
 
@tripleee could well be, I know almost nothing about machine learning in terms of user behaviour (just on terrain classification)
 
@Adriaan it's such a broad tag that it might not work reliably (though getting flags for other off-topic stuff could be a nice side effect)
 
@tripleee I can't phantom why anyone would want to link to those spammers without it actually being spam though
 
@Adriaan I can phantom.
(Did you mean, fathom?)
 
10:25 AM
phantom sounds so much like a ghost in French
 
@MadaraUchiha yes. My spell check was already not happy with it
 
@Tunaki phantom is a ghost in french.
 
fox spam
 
@MadaraUchiha and in English
 
@MadaraUchiha with incorrect spelling, but yeah :)
 
10:26 AM
@Adriaan that's not the problem I'm trying to solve. They could easily change domain names, email addresses etc and then the current blacklist will not work
 
@MadaraUchiha That's fantôme
 
^
note that ô, very important :)
I'd close and delete fast
 
@Tunaki doesn't look like spam though
 
@queen perhaps
 
delpls compatible ? I went with NAA though
 
10:33 AM
that's just abusive
 
@Kayess what's with the NAA comment?
 
@TIPS Does it answer the question?
 
Is it just NAA?
 
Back
 
@TIPS I went with it yes.
 
10:35 AM
Who is this narawa games guy btw
 
@Magisch Semi-decent troll on meta.SE
Also the maker of that auto-downvote script.
 
was suspended network-wide
 
@TIPS auto-DVs? Whut?
 
Serves them right
 
The suspension period ends in 14 hours.
Well then
 
10:37 AM
@Adriaan Whut indeed
 
1. write a script abusing the site
2. post it publicly on the site
3. ????
4. profit
 
I now hold 1.05% of all reversal badges on meta
:D
 
Why wasn't that post nuked from orbit beyond retrieval?
 
It isn't strictly forbidden... There was a Meta about that, see the comments
 
10:43 AM
@Magisch The 0.05% is more important than the 1%.
 
@TIPS scary
 
Sam
@Yam I think that's a little more than 31%.
 
@Yam still too broad to my taste, but maybe actual Python programmers would disagree?
 
@EricD this actual Python programmer agrees, and left a comment to that effect
 
thx
 
10:52 AM
Hesitating between pob and tb...
 
@Kyll unclear
 
Cast a request, or should I?
 
be my guest :)
 
@Kyll I'd comment "You want pizza with that?"
 
I hesitated between TB and U
@AndrasDeak Can't, @rene is against poor diet
 
10:53 AM
Plop!
 
Plop Ashish!
 
o/
 
@Kyll I know, he's all for nutrients
 
\o
 
I don't know queen.... sorry love.
 
10:54 AM
@Tunaki Reporting to @Closey
@kayess going TB
 
@Kyll both applies:)
 
Oh
both apply or both applies?
 
apply*
 
where's Tyler when you need him
 
@Magisch: That "He said while waiting on a reversal badge" comment was removed from your answer :-/
 
10:58 AM
@Cerbrus Aww
T'was mine :(
 
Maybe someone flagged it?
 
They kylled it. The bastards!
 
@Cerbrus It was obsolete
 
and trying to spread the disease of fun
 
11:00 AM
It's not a disease once everyone has it
 
^^ if it is not a dupe, it at least is unclear. So close it!
 
@Yam alive?
 
Yam
@Kyll Yep.
 
@yam You're going to report this one. Nope in its current shape.
 
@Yam stats
 
Yam
11:11 AM
I'm currently watching 247 posts.
 
@Yam refresh
...
 
I don't think there is a refresh command...
@Yam commands
 
Yam
commands - Prints this beautifully formatted message.
stats    - Displays the number of posts being watched.
opt-in   - You will receive pings for questions you have
           issued a cv-pls request on or voted to close.
opt-out  - Disables the above feature.
help     - Pretty self-explanatory...
alive    - Checks if I'm still running.
die      - I die a slow and painful death.
 
There used to be (defensive tone)
 
11:13 AM
I see. At least in the last month, there wasn't. I don't know before that as I was not a member
 
@Cerbrus :(
@Yam die
 
Yam
@Magisch You must be a room owner or moderator to kill me. Please contact your local Sam for further assistance.
2
 
yam should get another command: "self-destruct" and it should be an alias of "die"
 
@Yam self-destruct
:(
 
Is it safe to put a whitespace in a SQL table name?
Like calling a table "Component Type"
 
11:23 AM
dupe-hammered a large number of these just now but this one didn't have
 
@Magisch just don't call it Drop
@tripleee and the accepted answer is perl, so I didn't add it for you
 
@AndrasDeak wouldn't matter as I already CV:ed myself
 
@tripleee hmmm...right:(
 
Right
I have a VBA problem, and I'm kind of scared to ask it as a question
 
:D
that's what sock accounts are for
 
11:32 AM
Morning
 
@AndrasDeak keeping up the magic 31/287 Q/A ratio?
 
Plop @Nathan!
 
Essentially I have an access 2003 form and I want someone to make a screenshot with ALT+Print and then I want a button that takes the screenshot from the clipboard and puts it into a file on a specified path
 
@Magisch you lost me at VBA
 
@Magisch no
why do you want to do that anyway
Do you want to name your table "KYLL THE SPEARREL"?
 
11:34 AM
@Tunaki I have legacy code where I don't have a choice but to use it
 
I think some DB might allow it with some weird contortion syntax
but....
 
Oh queen is running in the room now. Do I need to redo my opt-in?
 
Plop!
 
Plop @Kev!
 
11:47 AM
@NathanOliver Hiya
 
@NathanOliver In SOCVR yeah
 
@queen help
 
This is a registered stack app SOCVFinder that notify about possible duplicates and cherry pick questions to review, see quick guide for commands. In this room commands are limited send commands to display available
 
@queen opt-in c++
 
11:48 AM
@NathanOliver Please opt-in for 1 tag and max 1 tag
 
@rene I agree but not like that way. Maybe I can try to make a real tour...like the Stack Overflow's - a clear tour about how to and why to join SOCVR, with some images and some stuff quoted from the FAQ. If you think it's OK I think I need half of a week.
 
You need the []
 
@queen opt-in [c++]
 
@NathanOliver The tag [c++] is not monitored in this room contact RO's for more info
 
@queen add [c++]
 
11:48 AM
@Tunaki Tag have been added to room and duplicate notifications for hammer in tag are available
 
@queen he should contact himself?
 
@que help
 
This is a registered stack app SOCVFinder that notify about possible duplicates and cherry pick questions to review, see quick guide for commands. In this room commands are limited send commands to display available
 
@queen opt-in [c++]
 
@NathanOliver Thanks, you have opted-in to be notified if a duplicate is found in tag and you are present in room
 
11:49 AM
^^ Isn't there a mistake in the message above which you get after running help? After "limited" shouldn't there be a full stop, and "send" should be "Send".
 
There we go. Thanks @Tunaki
 
@theB "Office 2013 and later"
This code has to run on windows 95
 
\o/
 
@que opt-in [c]
 
@AshishAhujaツ Sorry you need to be Hammer to run this command (@Petter)
 
11:49 AM
:(
 
@AshishAhujaツ hard stop or a comma me thinks.
 
@AshishAhujaツ Meh.
 
@NathanOliver or maybe a semicolon will also be okay
 
@AshishAhujaツ To opt in you need to wield a hammer.
 
@KevinGuan Oh, I understand now. That would be nice. If you have the time available and like to work on that, please go ahead.
 
11:50 AM
@NathanOliver :(
 
@rene Okay and I will try.
 
@Magisch Windows 95? I feel sorry for you. OpenClipboard CloseClipboard and GetClipboardData should be available. OleCreatePictureIndirect should as well. If not then I'd say the question is different enough to warrant asking. (Let me know if you do, I'd like to answer)
 
@KevinGuan feel free to ask for help in here, I'm sure others can provide content, images, story-line etc ... and at least test effort ... Now we are looking forward to it ... :D
 
@theB I wonder if I have to install the OLE library seperately
Because I'm not allowed to add any librarys
It has to work with a fresh Ms Access 2003 Install, on windows 95
 
@Magisch Probably not, but if its not available you could use the GDI bitmap creation methods.
 
11:56 AM
@rene I hope that I won't let you down =D. I'll ping you if I have some problems or new ideas.
 
@rene - Only about 4 questions left in the queue
 
OK
 

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