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9:00 AM
if it went through only you fingers you are ok, if it went through your whole body you better go and take a quick visit (1.5s is a lot).
 
No, but we have to wear sandals and overalls that reduce our internal resistance
 
I guess if you're fine now, it's okay.
 
Alternating current is usually going through between your fingers, that's the "intelligence" of AC
 
and the floors are grounded
 
@Tunaki Even wood can get scarred from electric shocks (img)
 
9:00 AM
But then if it went through your body and might affect blood veins/heart go and see a doc
 
So the path of least resistance is probably through me into the floor
 
Probably
But I'll see a doctor anyway
just in case
 
I have >20 Ohm resistance in these clothes
 
@Tunaki You don't have to. Magisch might have to, though. ;-)
 
Are you wearing rubber outsole shoes?
 
9:02 AM
Having clothes with lower resistance than your body actually saves you, most of the current will pass through the clothes instead of your hearth
 
We are not doctors afterall, go and see one to make sure
@Ed \o
 
All the clothes I wear are made to reduce static to a mimimum
 
static protected class Magisch{}
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Magisch I you felt the electricity in your whole body for 1,5 s go and see a doctor.
 
You should ask your company to test the GFI, in europe this should trip near the 50 mA inbalance
 
9:05 AM
GFI?
 
GFI relay
 
Ground Fault Interrupter, or Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI), a type of residual-current device.
Ground Fault Indicator, a gauge to indicate ground fault within a circuit.
[/wiki]
 
In my language it's called: life protection relay
And it's actually constantly monitors potential diffence between ground and null as well
Which might only happen in case if the current goes to null or ground, which though shouldn't happen because you/electricians need to bring null and ground to common potential using at least 10mm2 wires.
But hey, I need to refactor damn lot of new()'d up classed to adhere DI \o
 
It should be always save to be able to touch the earthing pins in a power socket, if you can feel the electricity on them, then its dangerous
 
It should break the circuit, depends on the type/resistance of GFI though...
SOCircuitBreakersReviewers
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9:16 AM
I don't mean to brag here or anything, but I changed the fuse in a plug at home once. #jusSayin
 
Ok, and? :-)
 
I tried to solder something once, and a big glob of molten solderin tin fell on my hand
 
@Magisch yeah I'm surprise the current went on 1.5 s you should sew the company any modern electrical system should cut the power in a couple of ms
 
Also fun: 9v battery + TV transformer + curiosity. Can give nasty shocks
 
electricity + curiosity often gives nasty surprises...
 
9:20 AM
nasty deadly
 
@PetterFriberg That happens a lot when the grounding wire connection is broken somewhere along the line...
 
well
I had the misfortune of finding that out
 
@Ferrybig Back in the '90s when we were trying to learn how to phreak POTS phone, we were using Honda Civic high voltage transformer (~15kV) applied to public phone line, we heard that we might be able to get free lines in the end all we got is burnt phone distributor cabinets, and some hundred interrupted and angry subscribers for the company :p
 
9:38 AM
This seems spammy and the author is linking in most of his other posts to the same github
 
@Magisch How many posts is "most" for you?
 
Nvm, not most, only 3
but the rest of his answers are an unprecedented level of awful
Meh. Not gonna redflag that, but it will get a modflag. He hasn't disclosed that this is his github.
 
10:10 AM
@tripleee that isn't spam? User is legit.
 
Ninja'd by Tuna
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 47 secs ago, by soup
Come on, people... a member for 2 years 9 months, with 13 posts, recommends some open-sourced thing...
 
Yeah for me it is not spam... the question ask for that
 
@tripleee It no spamz dude
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
10:13 AM
@tripleee Did you see the conversation we had about that answers a while back in the room?
 
@Ferrybig the answer yes, but the question is OT (off-site resource)
sorry, I reported the wrong link, it seems
@PetterFriberg that's what I meant to do
 
But you shouldn't use smokey for off-topic things, smokey is designed to catch spam
 
oh, okay, sorry about that
 
I think no harm done, I can't see any spam flags on the post
 
10:31 AM
oh wait, user is already nuked...
 
Le plop, gents.
 
o/
 
phew, good job I'm not a gent...
Is closey not running? Just realised I hadn't been pinged today...
 
@Clo alive?
 
I don't know for you, but there's a lot of plagiarists and "I'm answering without having read the question" people in my tags today. Downvotes are flying.
 
10:41 AM
@Tunaki I'm not dead yet!
 
Woot.
 
!!/coffee
 
@EricD brews coffee for @EricD
 
YAY
 
@Cerbrus OP has replaced'em
 
10:44 AM
@Closey my audit stats
 
@clo alive
 
@Magisch Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean alive?
 
@Clo alive
 
@Magisch I feel... happy!
 
omg closey hates me ;_;
 
10:46 AM
Closey is married to @tuna, so she is caustic and resentful mostly :p
 
haha
 
@clo alive
 
@Tunaki Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean alive?
 
@clo alive?
 
@Tunaki Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean alive?
 
10:50 AM
@Clo alive
 
@Tunaki I'm alive and kicking!
 
@Sam ^^ capitalization issue
 
@Closey Who are you kicking - that doesn't seem very nice :)
 
Sam
That's odd.
 
No, it's Odd.
 
Sam
10:55 AM
Sure, dad.
 
Mogs, dad.
 
11:11 AM
throws @Kyll at @Jon
Spearrel Strike!
 
Plop everyone
 
@Magisch that's nice of you? :p
 
@JonClements Now you have a little furry friend
 
@Magisch How can you know he's headed at Jon with his spear?
 
@Magisch attached to his body, not so nice.
 
11:12 AM
@Magisch oh - I may have gotten it wrong then... as it's about lunch time here... :0
 
@Kyll Hiya
 
@Kyll Pulp
 
Lunch, that thing! brb devouring something
 
@jon don't eat @Kyll
I need kyll
 
. . . to do my homework
 
11:13 AM
. . . to throw at people
 
There is no projectile weapon quite like him
 
Lethal, last upgrade, Mark V, nimble. I get what you're saying.
 
Well - there ya go @Kyll - something to add to your user profile: "Best projectile weapon in the world"...
 
@JonClements Done
 
11:15 AM
Also it/he/she/heshe screams when thrown, stunning nearby enemies and doing double damage.
 
screams squeaks
 
Screeches
 
sings
 
Shrieks
Shreks
 
Stinks?
 
11:17 AM
Come on, I bathed last month
 
Did you use soap? :P
 
He used Brazilian frog poison to kill bacteria.
 
Anyway, off for my déjeuner with Hatman
 
He really did. ^
 
It answered the Q?
 
11:23 AM
@Ferrybig It copy-pasted another answer
 
They also had two deleted answers spamming the same link... they've been given the boot
 
@jon in your case isn't it more of a paw?
 
That spammer is good at finding off-topic posts though.
 
@Kyll You could say he is .. kylling it
 
Am I the only one who suddenly can't find any questions below the "frequent" tab of any tag?
Seems either SO or Firefox had some kind of severe meltdown.
 
11:30 AM
Morning
 
o/
 
Sam
Hiya
 
@Lundin what 'frequent' tab? can you give a link?>
 
@MacroMan For example C++. stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/…
 
@Lundin shows nothing for me either
 
11:40 AM
Actually I get the same on any SE site I just realized, not just SO.
 
Same here. Same for other tags as well.
 
Main page, not specific tags
Repro'ed on Chem.SE
 
Bah I'm an idiot. I've approved a bad edit while I was fixing another one. Pfff. (slaps self)
 
Stupid chat replaced my messages.
 
I tried SO, Electrical Engineering, Code Review, doesn't work on any site
Are you guys using Firefox or other browsers?
 
11:42 AM
I iz using Chrome
 
Chrome
 
Ok so stack exchange had a meltdown... yikes.
 
Version 51.0.2704.84 m
@Lundin But I like Ice Age 2.
 
@TIPS Ok I don't know about that, I'm a C programmer so I have still not advanced past Dinosaur Age 1.
 
:)
I haven't seen the third one as I stop a C++ ;)
@Lundin That was a quick bug fix
 
11:46 AM
C = Triassic period, C++ = Jurassic peroid (larger and more dangerous dinos, but they look cool)
 
@Lundin o/ fellow c programmer
I saw you a bunch in too
 
@Magisch Aye that is where I lurk with them other dinosaurs :)
 
@Lundin you commented on some of my answers
 
I'm way too scared to try
 
C is a double edged sword
on one hand its very simple to use
on the other hand misusing it may cause your computer to combust
 
11:52 AM
C++ is like a hand grenade. Very simple to use but if you do not throw it far enough...
 
i'd say it is rather like a razor. In theory it should be simple to use, yet everyone keep cutting themselves on it no matter how long they have been shaving :)
 
I think I saw it described somewhere as something like "C is like a hammer, and the world looks like nails"
 
When I started learning C in october, I started it by answering some easy c questions
 
There's that famous quote by Bjarne Stoustrup:"C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off."
 
I love that quote.
 
11:54 AM
haha that's brilliant
I started looking at C++ a few months ago, but at the moment it's a bit too much of a leap for me
 
If you ever needs some assistance let me know.
 
I'm also using VBA atm, which is the pampered child version of C's prison yard
 
I started with VBA/VBScript etc, then I've started more in VB.NET and C#.NET
VBA is very much my safety blanket though
as I mostly just do Excel-based stuff
I dabble in things like CMD, SQL, PHP, JavaScript etc. but only when I absolutely have to
and in very small/basic amounts
 
I started programming in C++ almost 20 years ago, thought it seemed easy. Went to uni, realized C++ was very complex, became a C++ fan. Started to learn Java, became less of a C++ fan. Started to use C++ at work... started to dislike it. Started to read/maintain C++ code written by others, started to hate it.
 
haha, I'm about halfway through that same journey with VBA
 
11:58 AM
And now you love Java. Yep, that's pretty much all there is to it :D
 
I will agree that there is a lot of bad C++ out there. I try in every Q&A I see to correct it.
 
No I program embedded systems so I don't have to touch any of those languages, fortunately. Just C all the way.
 
C is life
C is love
 
Plop!
@Magisch agree
 
o/
 
12:00 PM
@Magisch If you just love someone you C, you won't be able to settle down easily.
 
I despise C++ though, particularly modern C++. They've gone full retard with the whole language, it's about 99% meta programming now, and 1% real application programming.
 
meta programming, as in template programming?
 
Problem is, there is nothing better that can be used general-purpose.
 
@Tunaki As in gray-scale
 
Meta programming as in writing a wrapper for your class wrapper's wrapper template.
Sort your class interfaces in interfaces, that you store in containers, that you access through other interfaces, that you can inherit.
 
12:02 PM
 
Yep.
 
@Tunaki It allows some/part/most of the code you write to be executed at compile time so the run time is reduced.
It also allows very fine grained type control.
Too fine grained IMO
 
In Spring, there is a class which is a proxy of a factory making factories.
 
But that level of stupidity awesomeness is reserved for such large frameworks :)
 
12:05 PM
See, in C I say "Screw all that" and just write my code
 
@Magisch What you don't want the compiler to write it for you? ;)
 
She said it's disguised spam.
 
The site is blocked by my company proxy. "Phishing" category.
 
it is, they're not affiliated to Google, actually
 
Yeah it is spam
 
12:07 PM
Thats a phising spam link
 
gmailcustomerservice
Yea, phishing
 
Kaspersky moans that its phising
 
@Magisch umm... if Kaspersky doesn't like fishing - why does it go? It should go down the pub instead or something :)
4
 
@AshishAhujaツ Just flag as NAA, the queue will handle it.
 
12:18 PM
Okay
 
For the future. Because now it's gone.
 
deleted too quick...
 
@Tuna you sure?
Oh, you are.
 
Yes, copy/paste of another answer + link
 
Yep, I am ^.
 
12:27 PM
@TIPS No reason to have a commodities link in the answer. disguised spam.
 
Does anyone know where I can find a list of mods? Not only community elected mods, but all
 
@AshishAhujaツ Just say "diamond" 3 times in front of a mirror in a dark room
 
@Kyll Then you will come and poison me. I know that so I won't do that.
 
12:29 PM
I posted a meta.SE discussion, if anyone cares.
 
@theB those aren't all mods. Those are elected mods
 
@AshishAhujaツ they're really the only ones that do "mod stuff" though... everyone that's staff can technically have a diamond if they need it
 
@AshishAhujaツ Whoops.
 
@AshishAhujaツ Well technically the others are not mods. They are CM's or devs. They just have diamonds like our elected mods.
 
@JonClements oh okay. I didn't know that
@NathanOliver i see
@theB got it.
 
12:32 PM
CMs have diamonds, devs mostly have diamonds, other staff may/may not have diamonds (but could have one if it was necessary)
 
@Magisch That answer is disgusting but.... not sure it is offensive. Nice post.
 
@Tunaki Every fiber of my being is repulsed by that answer
But im unsure if I can make the call to have it deleted
 
@Magisch Ew ew ew ew ew ewwww. Nice question though.
 
Normally I wouldn't touch this subject with a 15ft pole
But I feel the people on SE are just about rational and thought driven enough to have this discussion without it devolving into a shouting match
 
12:37 PM
Might want to add a link to Smokey
 
morning!
 
Sam
morning!
 
Plop gunr!
 
Plop gunr!
 
o/
 
12:42 PM
o/
 
o/
 
o/
 
anyways
 
12:43 PM
hi
 
good news everyone! I don't have anything on my schedule today!
 
quick question
 
Sam
Congrats!
 
hello!
 
Sam
@AndyK Hey
 
12:44 PM
if you feel a question should be moved to another site, what should I do?
 
what are you flagging options?
 
@AndyK can you provide us a link?
 
and got a link for example? (my crystal ball says this one)
 
checking
 
12:46 PM
drats, time to smash my crystal ball
 
these are my options
 
@gunr2171 you can still edit
 
(and before someone says it, onebox is fine)
@AndyK under that should be "should be close", then "off topic"
I don't know what a <3k user has for "migration" though
 
@Magisch Remember the user from yesterday? Would you flag him again?
 
12:48 PM
@Rizier123 Not sure, I'd have to look through all the individual posts
 
@AndyK also, you have to ask your question: yes, the person is trying to configure a tool, but if that tool is used primarily for programming then it's on topic on Stack Overflow.
 
but atm Idc so
 
@AndyK sublime is used by programmers, I think that's ok to keep here
 
@gunr2171 the distinction is tough, to be honest between what should be closed and not
 
eeeeeeeeeeverything :P
 
12:50 PM
just wait until you have 3k. Then you're really flying by the seat of your pants
I would not migrate either of those. One of the main rules of migration is "don't migrate crap". If it's not a good post, don't throw it over the fence.
 
@gunr2171 argh
when I started 2 years and half ago
I had zero
and now I'l close to 1k
and you're telling me, it is just the beginning of the road -- --
- _ -
 
yep :) good luck!
 
I'm close mean
 
it took a long time to get to 3k
and i've been "idle" ever since
 
@gunr2171 only because you're not enticed by promises of NATO
 
12:53 PM
Oh you innocent newbies :D
 
@EricD done
 
thx
 
@gunr2171 it is tedious, I recon. But it is worthy of
 
Oh lord I've opened a can of worms
 
Getting close vote powers is like being able to take a lighter to a post you don't like. We made this chat room so we don't go crazy with the flames.
 
12:55 PM
@Magisch Going phishing?
 
@Cerbrus Nah I opened a Meta.SE discussion about cultural relativism
 
To a certain extent, the "meta is murder" is affecting me. Close votes are consuming some of the time I would have otherwise spent answering.
morning btw
 
@Magisch linkplox
 
morning
 
@Magisch say what?
 
Plop @ryan!
 
absolutely not oneboxing that in here
:p
 
Plop @Macro!
 
@Magisch good luck with that
(I don't think that's a can of worms. That's a hornet's nest. With radioactive mutant hornets:P)
 
@AndyK but thanks for coming to us with questions. We're more than happy to give you more advice any time.
 
12:58 PM
or throw a Kyll at you
 
welcome @gunr2171
trying my best to do the right thing
 
@AshishAhujaツ plop! o/
 
throwing Kylls is SOCVR's pass time
 
@gunr2171 *pastime (sorry)
 
throws @Kyll at @MacroMan!
 
12:59 PM
and Jon Skeet is still active on SO ... #Legend
 
is still eating, doesn't bother
 
of course he is
 
@AndyK I joined SO 1y 7m ago and I'm over 10k now. If you put the effort into good answers it's not impossible to get high rep in short time
 
@Kyll eating what?
 
In fact, go look at Jeeped
 
12:59 PM
Nut cake
 

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