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Sam
2:00 PM
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o/ :)
 
Eric o/
 
hi gang
 
@Magisch Okay, just from that you flagged him? And it got marked as helpful? If yes what did you wrote as flag text?
 
Hi @Eric!
 
2:00 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Hi Ashish!
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 5 mins ago, by Magisch
The user that wrote this answer asked a completly clueless meta question about the rep cap (meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/326289/…). Together with his more then fishy rep history (including 14 reversed votes yesterday) I think that they're engaging in some fishy business. Maybe a mod can investigate and talk to them. – Magisch 7 mins ago helpful
is it now worth reopening? The user added some more code.
 
@Magisch I see that user many times in the PHP tag and it looked fishy already a very long time. But I never flagged him, because I didn't had a real proof, but to see this now is just funny :P Maybe I should flag some other users which see very fishy, even if I don't have a proof for it.
 
no because it's still missing the markup
 
@Rizier123 I always flag users that look fishy. Even if there is a slight bit of suspicion, flag it. At max, you will get a declined flag. Not much of a loss
 
@Rizier123 I have good pattern recognition
 
2:06 PM
@AshishAhujaツ There are many users in the PHP tag who have a very similar pattern(answering style, reputation gain, answer in the same time window, answering the same questions, coming from the same region) to this user :P
 
I tend to spot robo-reviewers and rep fraud relatively often
What set me off was the 14 rep fraud reversal yesterday
Other then that I probably wouldnt have
 
@Magisch 14 rep?
 
14 votes
140 rep
 
@Magisch Well I don't flag users if I don't have a proof, because you shouldn't moderate a user, but if your flag got marked as helpful I might flag suspicious behaviour from now on.
 
2:07 PM
@Rizier123 Then I think you should only flag the extreme cases
 
@Rizier123 I don't moderate the users, I just tip off the mods who do
There is a reason I dont run off and comment on their answers that they should stop the vote fraud
Because I can't find that out definitively. But I can tip off the mods who then can moderate users specifically
Fake rep is capped as well. You have to make it look more convincing, if a post gets downvoted, like so many of your posts are, then don't immediately upvote it again. Wait at least for a week. Then again, patience is usually the missing ingredient with users that do this. — Hans Passant 2 mins ago
I see hans had the same hunch
 
@AshishAhujaツ Well while I would say this user seemed already very suspicious, there are even worse ones which I have seen :P
 
@Rizier123 well if you don't care to flag them, you can shoot me links and I can see if I find that flag worthy
So far all of my mod custom flags have been helpful (IIRC), so I don't flag on a whim
 
@Magisch He even is a user in the "top tab" ...
 
2:18 PM
well, the mods know about it, so my involvement and care ends there
 
@Magisch I don't understand your comment towards Hans
I think it's only a SOCVR-specific rule not to moderate other users
 
@AndrasDeak for the same reason I don't go around accusing people of vote fraud, I don't think doing so on meta is constructive
 
^ agreed
 
@AndrasDeak IIRC its site wide that you should let the deal with user behavior end of the stick to the mods
 
IIRC?
 
2:21 PM
Making accusations is not very helpful when we as users can't and won't know the extent of what happened, and when the mods are already aware and already talked to the guy.
 
@Seth if I remember correctly
 
IIRC, IIRC
 
@Magisch this is pretty much right
 
Idk, at least I have this as strict thing for me
 
@Magisch I agree, I guess your specific phrasing of "We usually don't moderate users as other users" confused me. We do moderate other users, we just shouldn't
 
2:21 PM
when something stops being about a specific post and starts being about a user itself, I usually pass it to a modflag
 
@AndrasDeak Thanks :D
 
and of course I agree that snide remarks on meta, while usually very satisfying, are not helpful in these cases
even if it's a blatant case of fraud and the user had it coming, it's still not right
 
I'd like to think that the point of meta is to educate users on how the site works, not to elicit a chuckle from us regulars
 
Yep. There's the occasional meta post that involves a user account, in which case it's hard to not talk about the user. But even then, it's better to try to keep the account and user separate. Otherwise meta mob effect.
 
Yup. That's a general meta problem though, there are no clear guidelines regarding this (afaik, that is).
 
2:24 PM
There aren't really clear guidelines towards a lot of things
 
Imo meta should be solely about generalized problems, not about pinpointing users that commit various things.
 
This site is largely run on common sense, which largely works because programmers are usually logic driven
 
Instead of asking "Is user XXX allowed to throw Kyll?" it should be "Is throwing Kyll allowed?", but it mostly is not.
Yeah, well, most users are logic driven, but not all, and tbh, we all have a bad day
 
Common sense is surprisingly rare nowadays.
 
only me and yvette can throw @Kyll
 
2:25 PM
I mean, digging through hundreds of posts each day to find one good answer
 
I used to mod Minecraftforums.net
 
@Seth the guideline is "be nice". If that would be respected, there would be no meta-effect. At least not the negative kind
 
where they had a much stricter punishment culture
 
and then seeing people answering VLQ questions FGITW-style
I'd be upset too :P
 
since, the SE model has won me over alot
 
2:26 PM
@AndrasDeak True.
@Magisch SO has its charme regarding the policy, but still, some things should be made clear
 
yea
 
@Magisch Throws Kyll
 
Its just important that in all our complaining about things, we're here because this is the best shot yet
 
I think we should add a new rule: throwing users around is strictly prohibited.
 
@Kyll will not take kindly to that
throws @tuna
 
2:28 PM
Exactly :3 Most important: "Yet". We can still try our very best to make SO even better
 
@Tunaki I agree with tha- falls from all the throwing
 
Picks Kyll up & throws him @Magisch
 
@theB Commented on answer too
 
@Kyll thanks. I've gotta update my autocomments.
 
Oh yeah, fun fact regarding general computing: My private PC died a week or so ago, and I couldn't figure out the cause. Swapped mainboard, cpu, ram, power supply, nothing helped.
 
2:31 PM
@theB I typed that one x)
 
And now I figured out that the freaking CPU cooler was the problem.
 
@Kyll do you enjoy being thrown around?
 
@ryanyuyu Meh, I mostly sleep through it now.
 
Do you stick the landings?
 
pats @Kyll on the head whilst singing him a lullaby
 
2:35 PM
squeakingly snores
 
tries to do the same
 
How do we get OP to change color to RED inhere ? stackoverflow.com/questions/37861218/…
 
bites ryan in his sleep
 
sighs At least it wasn't full strength.
 
2:48 PM
Looks spammy as hell
 
meh
 
paid product
 
user is old with a question
there's a "free" version:P
 
First occurrence in Metasmoke
 
@AndrasDeak blæ
 
2:49 PM
Er
What happened to the post?
 
self delete I guess
 
moded
 
modnuke, I'd assume
 
Undone?
 
not nuked
 
2:50 PM
spam flag was helpful
 
@Tunaki ah
 
3:06 PM
Gnite fellas!
 
@kayess Gn8 nub :)
 
#define nub ?
 
Also, that username. Obvious troll.
 
@kayess Hmm... Belittlement of noob? :3
 
@Floern Yes. Rejected.
 
3:14 PM
@Seth Oh! From what viewpont do we define eachothers a noob?
 
@kayess The general viewpoint ò.ó
EVERYTHING
 
hmz
 
hmz?
 
hmz!
 
hmz...
 
3:17 PM
@Seth What are your work hours as apprentice?
Im curious
 
38.5
:3
Yours?
 
39,5
D:
 
laughs :D
 
that is, hours per week?
 
No, per month
Who the heck would work 38.5 hours per week!? </irony> :D
 
3:21 PM
Me.
Everyone I guess.
 
ô.ô
Jokes aside, we work 38.5 / 39.5 hours a week :) Per month... that'd be sort of annoying :P
 
@Seth lots of free time though
 
@Kyll Amateur! aplication 4,163
 
I am undeserving, master
 
Already had a regex for application, but it needs to be broadened. Thanks for the heads-up!
 
3:32 PM
Glad to help =D
 
@TylerH True, but I wouldnt want to go to work every day just to work 1/4 of what I'm doing now. My motivation would suffer :p
 
@Seth Well obviously you'd go to work all day for a couple days a week, and just have a 4 or 5 day weekend every week!
 
@TylerH Mhh... true. But I would also earn 1/4 of the money I'm earning right now
And that would mean I'd have to give up on my apartment and move in with my parents again
D:
 
turn to a life of crime
all your problems will be solved
 
Hummm....
But I dont have the skills for that yet :c
 
3:36 PM
find a nice established syndicate, work your way up
 
But as what :o
I want to develop, not punch people for a living
 
muscle, fishing, larceny, just a couple years, then BAM you're in charge of regional operations for a couple money houses
skim a little here, skim a little there, organize an "opposing force" to use as a fallguy for the missing funds, and bob's your uncle
 
Who's bob? x)
 
Plus, you'll probably only have to shoot like, two, maybe three people, tops
@Seth it's an expression
 
Oh o.o
 
Ahh, I see, thanks :3 Well, I'll be gone now :) My new life awaits!
 
@Kyll BTW, remember to use quotes when searching for misspelled words, otherwise elasticsearch will stretch the results. E.g. "appliactions" (50) vs appliactions (672 - sproing!)
 
A bounty on a typo question...
 
Yes, Mogsdad-senpai
 
@Kyll mogsdad-senpai
 
3:40 PM
Smogsdad.
 
@TylerH Woops, indeed
 
@TylerH Woo-hoo! I'm upper class! Hmm. Or old.
 
@Mogsdad :-°
 
@Kyll How about this? Can you find any other significant versions of application that were missed? regex101.com/r/bO4dP4/2
 
3:54 PM
@Mogsdad appilcation
 
@Mogsdad "appication" (712)
Might have other derivatives of lacking the l
 
Nice! As long as making the l optional doesn't result in false positives, NP.
 
also lowercase aplication
 
@TylerH 142 for that one
 
We need a 2k+ bot who just edits obv. and easy-to-identify spelling mistakes (like that) >_>
 
3:57 PM
You need 2k to edit without suggestions
 
@Seth There's been experiments with such bots
Nice ones IIRC
 
@TylerH ?
 
Thx @Ferrybig :)
@Kyll Sounds fun tbh. I want to try that soon :3 Not with the editting stuff, just a bot that alarms me whenever he finds something like that ^-^
 
What words start with "a", end with "n", and contain "p" before "c"? (And appear commonly on SO, let's say...)
 
@Mogsdad apachin
 
3:59 PM
@Mogsdad pancake
 
@Adriaan You're good at this
 
@Tunaki Bzzt
 
@Tunaki You're not
 
:(
 
Poor tuna
:/
 
4:01 PM
@Mogsdad the thing you linked to just has Aplication, but not aplication
 
@Mogsdad Appalachian
 
I'm assuming it's a case-sensitive list
 
Alpecin?
 
@TylerH But the regex does handle both, retaining the leading cap. (Makes a mess of APLICATION, but meh.)
 
Someone's obsessed with their favorite tag... Let it be, or tell them to calm down? Most edits are just useless, but some are faulty (this one removed an important tag, for example).
 
4:03 PM
@Seth A misspelled caffeine shampoo? I'll take my chances!
 
@Mogsdad What misspelling?
@EricD Well... He just got his Fanatic badge so... he's probably trying to live up to that I guess? x)
 
@Mogsdad appreciation
@Mogsdad amplification
 
@EricD It's already being handled on Meta I believe
@Tuna Oooh, revenge of the Tuna
 
@Mogsdad antispeculation
 
They said I wasn't good at it, then I got three in a row. That's how I earned their respect.
2
 
4:05 PM
Ill get going now :) Cyaaaa :3
 
:)
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/37863627/… 6 years experience and such a simple mistake :O
 
looks behind the curtain
 
@Tunaki Bit of a stretch, there. Good news, so far: the regex leaves all those.
 
@Kyll found it, thanks
 
4:06 PM
np
 
@Seth Tricky... but I can sill see the original.
 
Did I win something?
 
@Tunaki s/apperception/understanding/ problem solved!
 
4:09 PM
@theB No problems, there! Looking good.
 
Is this for the magic editor?
 
Yep.
Blame Kyll... but it's been a fun team effort.
 
!!blame
well, I tried
 
forgot the /
 
@TylerH It's TylerH's fault!
 
4:15 PM
oh, it's /?
 
What? No link to profile?
 
//blame
 
!!/blame
 
@ryanyuyu It's SpringLearner's fault.
 
oh dear god that's terrible syntax
who wrote that and why aren't they fired yet
 
4:16 PM
@TylerH Er, was it ProgramFox?
 
Intentionally bad to avoid accidental invocations?
 
More like "to avoid conflicts with other bots". Just like you don't want "Okay Alexa" to make everyone's Echo go crazy.
 
Oh. That's the Amazon voice assistant.
 
@hichris123 who doesn't want that? It'd bea wesome
 
@ryanyuyu Yeah, I used that example because it actually happened...
 
4:25 PM
@hichris123 You obviously haven't been into the Ministry during one of those times
 
Like queen vs hatman?
 
4:48 PM
but we never manage to get all the 3 bots (hatman, capr and queen) to interact all together... maybe we could also throw in princess
 
:31189806 What happened?
 
me reporting something to have it in metasmoke
 
LoL. :D Why was there a Watch your attitude comment?
 
I have no clue
 
Ha ha...
 
4:55 PM
people leave weird comments on spam
 
Maybe it was a typo and the comment came from air traffic control (watch your altitude)
 
@AndrasDeak Oh thatnks.
 
@Undo Yeah, like this guy that leaves "This comment kills the grace period." Weirdo.
 
@Tunaki Oh, which guy are you talking about? :P
 
5:13 PM
I wish we could still vote on locked answers
 
i don't understand why was it locked in the first place
 
too many comments raise auto-modflag
 
@AndrasDeak The main concept of locking itself is not to vote.
 
Undo probably extrapolated to intensive flaming/arguing in the short future
@PraveenKumar or to freeze comments, or to freeze edits
 
@AndrasDeak Everything.
 
5:15 PM
@AndrasDeak yeah, but locking wasn't necessary here
in my opinion, of course
 
@vaultah Undo obviously disagrees:)
I'm only sorry for not being able to downvote (missed it by 20 seconds)
otherwise I'm fine with it
at least the question is closed now
 
community wiki?
 
the dupe is
hmmm
 
I sense a bug
 
@AndrasDeak Closed, can't reproduce.
 
5:23 PM
anyone else seeing a kinky post score skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/34323/15158
 
@Tunaki that was quick:P
 
@Mogsdad how did you manage to have community-wiki in there? Did you use the checkbox? cv-pls button?
 
different version of the script?
 
it doesn't say community wiki anywhere...
 
@AndrasDeak It updates automatically™.
 
5:25 PM
@Tunaki ¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
7 mins ago, by Andras Deak
I sense a bug
Tuna says the dupe target is CW
 
how the heck the script grab that?
 
Idk, Mogsdad clicked with his feet perhaps.
 
Oh, it's from the mini-preview.
 
I see.
 
5:29 PM
OMG. "How to use a dictionary". And they manage to get two answers - two wrong answers. I quit.
 
@EricD nonono, you quit them ;)
 
are there currently any issues with the network? I'm unable to submit any questions (it has the loading animation forever)
 
what have you tried?
 
@Braiam reloading, logging out, logging back in, etc.
 
Hiya
 
5:36 PM
did you check the console...
 
@Braiam yeah, timeout errors
actually, CONNECTION RESET
I also tried to create a new tag with the same result..
 
bet ya is a firewall
try https
 
@Braiam shouldn't be, I'm on my home connection that I've had for five years and this is the first time it's happened.
 
And the idiot repgrabber manages to get a pity upvote to their does-not-even-compile answer. I quit.
 
5:39 PM
I'll try via Incognito.
 
@cybermonkey have you retrieved a mail from your ISP recently?
 
@Braiam nope
 
use https
 
exactly the same thing
 
wut, that's... weird
 
5:40 PM
I'll try via my college rdp, moment..
 
@cybermonkey Probably the Fastly migration
You might have hit a bad endpoint
 
@Undo only on POST operations?
 
@Braiam shrug CDNs are weird
 
ironically the question I'm trying to ask is actually about GET requests producing a 'not found' error, lol
the only similarity between the two situations is that both use JQuery
well, that worked (from another network)
 
now post in meta
 
5:44 PM
tried my site out of curiosity, error definitely not related.
how was this answer posted 20 seconds after I closed the q as a duplicate?
 
Answers can be posted after the question gets closed
I don't really know why, but it's been that way since forever
 
Sam
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Feb 10 at 21:53, by Shog9
The whole point was pretty much to not throw away someone's work if they were on a shitty connection, and that still applies.
 
Bug fixed.
 
JAL
@cybermonkey added a comment
 
@JAL should probably be 'flag as a duplicate' instead of 'close as a dupe' since the user doesn't have the rep
 
5:57 PM
@Undo Because there's a tiny bit of grace period given on the server side for those "just in case"s...
 
tiny bit being 8 hours IIRC or 4 ------v.
 
Sam
@JonClements IIRC, "tiny bit of grace period" == 4 hours?
 
should be 6-8 hours
that seems like personal information
 
editing
 
JAL
@cybermonkey probably, I'll consider that next time
 
6:03 PM
@Tunaki you missed a few <br/>s
also that last line...
 
I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
: )
 
6:34 PM
 

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