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12:24 AM
batch307 count=20 cv4 is in the beehive
133 closed for c# today. Thx
 
1:02 AM
@StephenMuecke @rene an asp.net-mvc batch has been added to the beehive. cv3,4
batch002 in the c# folder
 
user3559349
1:16 AM
@Drew, I had already voted to close all those - you don't need to let me know about mvc tagged questions :)
 
JAL
I'm hitting that asp batch now
Maybe after the priority cleanup we can tackle asp and asp.net in the queue
@rene
 
I figured as such Stephen. It seems to be your thing
But even Eric and JAL miss out on some swift questions
honestly I think those will be history in 2 days once our peeps look at it. I have cv2 ones too and others
 
1:34 AM
> Cannot contain any special characters
Really
<3 password restrictions /s
 
1:54 AM
@StephenMuecke I created a folder in the hive for your stuff. I need to update that batch. They all closed but 4 when I ran out of votes
You asp.net-mvc - ers need to ping us because your close votes are aging away. That is pretty clear looking at the questions and the daily summary sheet in your folder
 
user3559349
@Drew, Unfortunately here don't seem to be many of us asp.net-mvc - ers very active in closing the rubbish. And its even worse because of the amount of crap that gets up-voted (both questions and totally wrong answers)
 
Rob
@TylerH "Your password must be sufficiently trivial so that it's effectively useless"
 
JAL
@StephenMuecke we will periodically try to work on asp in this room, I've seen the tag come up in rene's queries before. Maybe we can do some more soon
We've cleared asp from the queue before, asp.net is way out of hand though
 
@Rob I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Rob passed a audit!
 
JAL
@Closey cleared tags
@Closey stats
@Closey current tag
/shrug
 
2:09 AM
@StephenMuecke it only generates 2 pages a day like 100 questions. So maybe I can ping some people and feel free to drive them into our Campaigns chat room daily.
What I do is run a query for the ones that have closed in the last week. Find people, and ping them
 
Rob
So my rep right now is 13337
:D
 
JAL
alright i'm out for the night. later all
 
@Rob User is not blacklisted.
 
Rob
@SmokeDetector sd f
 
3:17 AM
Plop!
 
 
1 hour later…
4:21 AM
An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
0: Error getting response stream (ReadDone2): ReceiveFailure
1: at System.Net.WebConnection.HandleError (WebExceptionStatus st, System.Exception e, System.String where) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Net.WebConnection.ReadDone (IAsyncResult result) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Net.Sockets.SocketAsyncResult.<ExecuteWorkItem>m__1 (System.Object state) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.AsyncResult.Invoke (System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.AsyncResult ) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
 
Why does sd always link to Praveen Kumar in the brackets?
 
Rob
He asked to be pinged for all reports
 
Rob
!!/willibenotified 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
@Rob No, you won't be notified for that site in that room.
 
Rob
4:28 AM
I don't know why ;)
 
@JanDvorak: CV applied.
 
what a sack of crap. Sadly out of cv
That guy is close to a question ban after 5 months
 
Most guys are faster
 
Hi guys, in for a moment
 
4:42 AM
Plop @BhargavRao
 
Any ruby "gems" (users) here?
@AshishAhujaツ Hi
 
There's a high rep (good guy) user who's adding a lot of link only answers like this stackoverflow.com/a/37041687/4099593
Is it a complete answer in [ruby] terms?
 
flag and move on
 
@Tushar teh best
 
4:44 AM
Link only are never valid answers, no matter the language
 
Can you believe such a thing; spam on SO hardly survives a minute, while spam on other sites last very long.
[This question](http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/237274/body-building-supplements-are-they-necessary) was asked 8 mins ago, and still just has 1 downvote, and mostly only 2-3 spam flags
 
Yeah, true that. But high reps usually don't do so. Hence the query. Thanks
 
I invited him here
 
@Drew sawa?
 
yep
 
4:46 AM
All I know him is from meta and he seems to be a good guy
 
Right so he cleans that mess up before it is worse
 
Anyway thanks Drew.
1hr, am sure that it'll be flagged VLQ/NAA. So even if he corrects it, he'll get a auto downvote
 
@AshishAhujaツ stackoverflow.com/a/37040784/4099593 Spam survived an entire hour here ;)
 
5:06 AM
Who even thought of checking user names?
 
I haven't seen baba spam for quite a while, actually
but it was a REALLY big thing back then
 
@Drew What's with the new color codes for No answers in the hive?
 
The "run out of flags on multiple sites" kind of big.
 
Python batches started up again. Python got lame again
0 answers on questions mean they stink
 
@Drew Python's run out of the Magic BR Potion™
 
5:11 AM
you gotta whip your boys into shape. We could have used them today in c# and java
 
Few more days Drew, Just few more days. Then 2 months of clean Python.
 
No python is rather clean. That is why we moved to the other tags that were crippled by comparison
btw look at the c# summary #'s
 
Holey Sheet, That's like 2x better.
 
We could have done better even
 
Fine, let's get more guys.
I've been missing out on the action these days, I need to catch up.
 
5:16 AM
Python is in great shape. See the names at the bottom of c# and java. We have a lot of python people when I fill that in
So you guys can just ping those people
 
@BhargavRao Let me misinterpret that in light of you requiring specifically males.
 
@Drew batch69 has only one good post, all others are close worthy.
@JanDvorak Nope, You not thinkin like that again! ;)
 
@BhargavRao so you are done with it for a refresh to others?
 
Yeah, I did a full sweep
 
hiya
 
5:25 AM
ok thx
 
Hello @Nitin
 
Hi Nitin do you want iOS pumped your way?
 
feeling bad our guj blog removed by mod :(
bcz of some our user flag
 
Java is doing well too, Has almost reached 200.
@NitinGohel Link-pls
 
based on this they can't removed
 
5:27 AM
@NitinGohel reading
That's weird.
Interesting and I kinda agree too, It becomes a tough job moderating non english contents.
 
Makes sense.
 
@CindyMeister how are the onions
and pancakes
 
Let people do anything that's not hurting anyone. If it starts to hurt, disallow them.
 
But what I find weird is that, the particular room that was linked by Nitin was a gallery and hence it wouldn't have harmed people in general.
 
It did harm people in general. At least a meteor-throwing mod was annoyed enough to bring it up on meta.
 
5:37 AM
sir there is no flag
 
If Language is the only reason, then there are a lot of other such rooms. I am quite skeptical I guess there must be some background. Anyway thanks to my own reporting of the security loophole in chat, I can't tell more :P
 
only mod like to remove room bcz he has a power of it
 
I guess I need to move back to my studies.
 
@NitinGohel There were flags before.
Didn't the flags in Madara's screenshot come from the room?
Also I'm not sure if this room's RO's appreciate bringing a drama aftershock here.
 
@PhMgBr Nah, That's an year back
It's from the Java room.
 
5:38 AM
Oh
 
if some unknown use doing flag in anyroom it does't mean mod do remove room
that bcz of some unknow use
 
Well, no one other than the mod can tell the reason for the action.
Thus I'm not getting the point of continuing this discussion.
 
and in my room hardy 1 flag did by some one i got many flag in a day from javascrip room and other why that not removed
bcz there is mod participated
 
@NitinGohel First off, you just don't remove a room as big as Java's.
 
i see
 
5:41 AM
Second, what you should be doing write now is either writing a constructive meta post, or trying to contact the mod some other way.
But not this room please.
 
alright thanks
 
@PhMgBr Java != Javascript
 
OK whatever
*JS's
Sometimes my mind thinks something and my hands type another.
Maybe I was between typing "JS" and "Javascript" and I ended up typing "Java".
 
P\op
 
|o/
but we need our room active again sir there are many use who need help and we are here for the help as we have a tag #SOreadytohelp. then what about this use we need help??? — Nitin Gohel 11 mins ago
@Nihit JonCle removed your room, not Shog.
 
5:51 AM
... and he ain't giving it back
 
*@Nitin dammit
 
@PhMgBr VTC as typo
 
@PhMgBr we can't talk with mod? in related conversation ?
 
If I were you, I'd have commented under one of JonCle's posts, asked him to open up a private chat, and spoke with him nicely.
 
ok got it thanks for guide me (y)
 
5:55 AM
I have no doubt that Jon will see it somehow, one of us will let him know, and you will get an invite to a private room
 
@NitinGohel The problem is Shog has nothing to do with your room being frozen. Talking with a mod that has nothing to do with it is . . . less than ideal.
 
@PhMgBr (cc @Nitin) Don't add comments. Directly invite him to a room.
adding comments is noise again and will be flagged
 
@BhargavRao He can't make a mod-only room.
I was getting to that.
 
alright
 
@PhMgBr He can invite Jon to a room and ask him to make a Private chat for them
 
5:56 AM
i think right now he is not online on SO
 
@Nitin don't forget to delete your comment afterwards.
 
Do you think one mod would be willing to overturn another's decision?
 
wait and will talk with jon
thanks all for support
 
@BhargavRao Doesn't make much difference with his commenting.
Whatever man. It's just one comment that will be removed.
 
Well that is not the right way to do.
 
5:57 AM
i removed
thanks
 
We should learn to seldom bend the rules when it does good.
Moderation and communication are entangled.
Moderation without communication is futile and leads to flame wars.
 
@Drew the last remaining 4 are now closed
 
@PhMgBr Do you know that there's a similar story about a little girl taking a wounded dog on a public transport bus?
 
thx
 
@BhargavRao Let me guess: she got fined, and was paying off the interests her whole life?
 
6:04 AM
If the bull's eye of the story is our Sun, Your arrow struck the center of Andromeda Galaxy.
 
Rob
Depending on your point of view, that can be pretty close ;)
 
The story goes something like, Girl carries a bleeding dog on a bus so that it can be taken to a vet, but the people there prevent her from staying on the bus just coz the rules said "No animals allowed". In the commotion that followed, the dog died.
rules can be bent when it helps and does good!
 
and, given what Saggitarius means in Latin...
 
I'm a Saggi. Afraid to ask
 
Rob
@PhMgBr How do you know that?
stackoverflow.com/questions/37042816/… - "I'm using string.Format which took around 130 parameters my code look like as below" Holy crap
130 columns??
 
6:38 AM
^ that's spam
 
@Rob I have some powerful friends. the last message in the frozen room says "JonCle has frozen this room".
 
Rob
Ah, well that would explain it ;)
pretty sure that's not spam.
Like, not at all
Just because there is a link inside an answer, doesn't mean it is spam. Read the rest of the text, it's tailored to the question. The link is for a review of VPN providers in china
 
So spam for a blog or something? :P
 
Nope, That's spam. The website was not a proper one.
 
Rob
What do you mean not a proper one? It's a blog with recommended VPNs for China
 
6:43 AM
So it's a blog spam.
 
Rob
Posting a link to a blog when it's relevant to the question is not spam.
 
> Url in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 12-30: bestvpnprovider.co
Body - Position 12-30: bestvpnprovider.co
Title - Position 1-31: http://www.bestvpnprovider.com
 
That ^
 
um, the blog is not relevant to the question. the question is "does appengine work in china", not "what vpns can i use in china"
 
Rob
6:46 AM
@IanKemp Yes, because it's blocked in China.. notice the rest of the answers?
@BhargavRao Fair enough then - didn't know it was a black listed site. I still wouldn't have flagged it, as it's not blatantly spam, at least in my eyes.
If one were to take the post by itself
 
I flagged it after checking it on metasmoke
Else even I would not have
 
Rob
There are only two posts with that url: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
One of them being this one
 
Yep the other on SF 3 days ago
That post was mod checked (as the user is deleted)
 
Rob
Hmm, alright
Still not entirely sure this post was maliciously spamming, but it's a new account so I suppose it might be
Anyway, time to head home
Ciao
 
Later, Bye
Time for me to go and study too! Bye all
 
7:04 AM
sd f edited.
 
@BhargavRao Whatever dude. One comment is not a wounded dog.
 
@ArtOfCode Where I can find the number of my invalidated feedbacks?
 
@SmokeDetector Makes me wonder. Do some people test to see what an answer looks like and end up with posts like that?
 
@PhMgBr Hey, I was speaking on your behalf, I was on your side.
Checks if friendly fire is on
1 hour ago, by Bhargav Rao
rules can be bent when it helps and does good!
@PhMgBr ^^^ :)
 
@BhargavRao Whom does it do good, and how do we tell it does?
And no, kicking out everyone that speaks english isn't the best way to keep your room alive
 
7:10 AM
Morning \o
 
1. To the society in general 2. Use your knowledge!
@kayess Hello!
 
@Bhar @phm @kev @tushar \o
 
Hello
 
Hello
 
@JanDvorak Huh? We are not speaking bout that, guess you misread the whole stuff
We are speaking about whether using comments to draw attention of a user is good or not.
 
7:12 AM
Huh what? Oh. But still.
 
I was speaking against the topic on the floor whereas @PhMgBr was speaking for the topic.
It was just a fruitful debate and had nothing to do with "English speaking", as far as I know
 
Huh what?
 
When I mentioned that using comments to draw the attention of moderators/users to a particular room is "noise" @PhMgBr said that rules can be broken iff it is for good reasons
 
Or, was it someone else that was crying about their lovely room getting destroyed? Sorry about that, you both are red in my userscript
 
Looks like you are completely confused Jan, we were speaking about a totally different topic.
 
7:15 AM
@kayess \o
@BhargavRao Oh. Well, blame @Jan for making me think that was the end of the story.
 
@PhMgBr Lol, I got a bit confused too!
Anyway back to studies, have an exam coming up this week end, gotta put my heart and soul in it. Cya guys later
 
OK this is annoying.
People are flagging stuff in ru.SO's chat.
And you just don't know how to handle them.
 
"if any concern arises, validate the flag" is the rule I remember hearing.
But yes, with localised stack overflows this is becoming kind of an issue
www.language-overflow.com
 
7:40 AM
Weird. I keep editing the message to remove the one-box, and, oh wait
 
I was wondering how I suddenly got so popular
 
G'morning
 
Morning @PetterFriberg
 
Cool. There's a new gujarati chat room to help flag-troll
 
Sam
7:59 AM
Hiya
 
b..
 
@PhMgBr thanks
 
@JanDvorak I do not think you are privileged in here, try the command
!!/amiprivileged
 
@PetterFriberg Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
8:04 AM
@JanDvorak No, you are not a privileged user.
 
you need to ask the Characoal team, your commands have no effect
 
@Undo may I get the privileges, please?
 
hiya all
\o
 
Hiya : )
 
@Pet \o
 
8:09 AM
\o/
 
@PetterFriberg Or just make a PR here: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pulls (cc @Jan)
 
better to ask with all the new rules they have, to avoid getting denied.
 
Fine
 
Sam
@PhMgBr Smells like homework.
 
8:18 AM
It is HW.
 
@Sam, @Drew I create the bot account, I will edit some questions to bring it up to 20 and then pass you the credentials, the idea is that you can use @que
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@IanKemp No, you are not a privileged user.
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@PraveenKumar Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
8:20 AM
!!/coffee
 
@PraveenKumar brews coffee for @PraveenKumar
 
rushes into the kitchen before @PraveenKumar does; downs the coffee in one go
 
> takes it as Praveen giving treat to Jan for his birthday
 
@PhMgBr "this is related to electrochemistry" cool story brah
 
Sam
@PetterFriberg ok, great.
 
8:23 AM
> GIT is the only context where a detached head is a potentially beneficial situation
2
 
Sam
@JanDvorak Shog might have something else to say about that.
 
point taken
 
8:40 AM
Is this one POB? I think that it's asking for "Which one is faster": stackoverflow.com/questions/37043833/…
 
No. I mean, yes. I mean, eff it, it's got four votes already, let's finish it off.
 
@JanDvorak Err...No robo-reviewing pls...
 
@JanDvorak what do you mean
 
I mean, if there are any concerns raised about the validity of a foreign-language chat post, I have been instructed to validate.
 
lol
 
8:52 AM
anyone else who repros this?
 
@rene I didn't understand the question at all. Where's the linear gradient here?
 
@PraveenKumar in his answer
if you run the snippet and then do a full screen
you need to scroll down a bit
 
Smells of an LCD issue
 
with red free hand stuff : i.stack.imgur.com/IxSv8.png
 
9:02 AM
@rene OMG...
 
@rene Works fine here in multiple browsers on win7-win8.1 chrome, ff, ie10
 
strange then ...
Must be something local for the OP....
@JanDvorak How does that work then?
 
Even works in Internet Exploder v11.0.9600.18125
 
I didn't want to start my laptop to check ;) but thx
 
LCDs are notoriously bad at displaying colors. The same hex triplet can appear blue at the top of the screen while it appears purple at the bottom.
 
9:06 AM
That is an unintended gradient then ...
 
I have already seen a SO question about that, too.
> Where is this gradient coming from?
> There is no gradient
 
@JanDvorak The gradient is a lie
 
dank memes ahoy
 
To darken the gradient, you must first understand there is no gradient. You have to look at the gradient in a different way. Tilt your screen, Neo.
 
Blow, Neo. Realize that it was only dirt on your screen.
 
9:13 AM
Commercial hand (opp to Freehand) circles: meta.stackexchange.com/q/279069/187488... Anyone reproducing the bug?
Hey I am not getting the gradient...
 
9:27 AM
@sam, @Drew and @Gothdo, I have started to put down some initial ideas
 
@PraveenKumar ??
the first one is a tooltip for the URL?
 
@AndrasDeak Leave that first bit... Are you experiencing the bug? Yes, all are when hovering over the URL, you see it in the Status Bar.
 
[tooltip][#ID]

[#ID]: URL
I can't see the post, I'm a <10k peasant
 
@AndrasDeak Answer has the same format. That's what I explained in the full post. No leave that post. See the pics.
Ah... Yes, you can't repro if it is not visible.
 
yup
and without that, I'm not even sure about what the bug is
 
9:33 AM
@KevinGuan currently, you can't, though I'm planning on making it possible at some point. I can tell you, though, if you want to know and are okay with me dropping it in chat.
 
@ArtOfCode Yeah, please tell me that.
 
Sure, lemme go find it.
@KevinGuan 7 invalidated of 317 total, or 2.21%.
 
Thanks, not a big number.
 
@PraveenKumar so several things are not clear to me. Is the URL replaced with the URL title when you hover over the link? (your mouse is not visible in the screenshots.) What is "somewhere else" in "it goes somewhere else"? Is the final screenshot made when you try to edit the post, and hover over the link of the preview?
 
If you're looking at the ignore threshold, then taking into account the four free invalidations you get that's a rate of 0.95% out of 4% maximum.
 
9:36 AM
Also, does the page source tell you anything?
 
Well clear of that.
 
@AndrasDeak No no... Always the mouse is over the woah...
 
Why didn't I think of seeing the source.
:(
 
too much JS:P
if you can find an undeleted post, I can check on my system (firefox 38)
 
9:37 AM
True that.
I am scouting for that bug now... LoL.
 
the link in the question is OK now for me
but looking at the edit markdown, it should work
so it's possibly system-dependent
do you see the same thing for the question?
if not, it might be related to deleted posts
 
Anyone else want their stats, while I've got the page open?
 
shoot!, yeah sure m2
 
@PetterFriberg 4 invalidated of 236 total, or 1.69%
 
with 4 ignored thats 0 : )
 
9:42 AM
Yeah, basically :)
 
Thanks.. for now I'm home safe,,,
 
@ArtOfCode Huh, why don't we just use 5% or 4% but 4%+4 then?
 
@KevinGuan to account for new users
 
Oh, fine.
 
If one of your first twenty feed backs got invalidated, you'd be ignored.
Also it turned out to be the simplest model for it.
 
9:44 AM
we all starts as newbies : )
 
We were originally looking at implementing it as 1/(invalid)^2
But that expected you to get exponentially more accurate as your total increased.
 
Oh, so like a hard video game?
 
to the point where at 5000 feedbacks, I wouldn't pass it even with a rate of 0.14%
Or something like that
 
the systems sounds sane, its good you get some free ones, some mistakes while you try to learn, then you just need to hold a certain standard.
 
Aye, that was the basic rationale behind it. Meta came up with the formula, Undo and I threw it in code.
 
9:49 AM
those the ones signaled as mistakes (in chat or needs admin) count as invalidated?
 
@PetterFriberg unfortunately, yes. We could do with a slightly better system for that one, but for now we have manual admin reviews on any ignores.
It's not an easy issue to differentiate between invalidations, so it'll take some thought.
 
np, the treasure level seems fairly high
 
gone
 
@PraveenKumar you've got a no repro on meta
 

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