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3:01 PM
But at 1280 wide, it shouldn't need the h-scroll. Same width as I'm using. Odd.
 
It doesn't need to be fixed, I can always improvise a solution for it
 
@Ferrybig Technically, insufficient RAM only slows things down if you are maxing it out, and it's paging things to disk a lot. Processor and drive speed are usually bigger factors.
 
Yeah SSDs are amazing for increasing performance.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Lets say I have a habit of not closing unused google chrome tabs, and that will cause the trashing to the hard disk
 
@Ferrybig Yeah, Chrome is pretty RAM hungry, especially if it's got some Flash instances going too.
 
3:05 PM
@Ferrybig Just trying to understand it, first. I can reproduce your problem if I drop my h-res to 1024, but at 1152 or better, no h-scroll. So I'm really confused why you get it at 1280.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Ugh why won't Flash just die?#
 
@DavidG I know right? Even Adobe has basically abandoned it.
 
@Tunaki You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 48 minutes and 9 seconds, averaging to a review every 48 seconds.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Adobe is actively telling people to stop using it.
 
@DavidG I blame advertisers: "But, we need to show flashy obnoxious ads in IE 8."
 
3:12 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara occupyflash.org
 
@DavidG Mozilla's pretty serious about not letting backwards compatibility stop them from dropping Flash Player. mozilla.github.io/shumway
 
Luckily that is here only suggested edit.
 
@NathanOliver yeah. Hopefully it's just a user trying to be "hip" or something. But super unprofessional.
 
Sam
sigh
 
3:26 PM
lol
 
Sam
-_-
 
Make it stop @Sam!
 
Like a kid crying on an airplane.
 
Shes gone rogue again.
 
3:27 PM
I'll talk to her.
 
Sam
Blame tuna.
@Clo stop bot
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Goodbye! (nagato v2 docker)
 
Sam
Let's wait a few mins...
 
What's the verdict on edits that remove excess indentation in code? One user is spamming the review queue with edits like this
 
@ryanyuyu Those are fine IMO. It is mis-indented but doesn't change the curly-brace style
 
3:29 PM
sure. I guess I'll skip them if they don't leave other issues in the post.
 
@ryanyuyu Looks okay to me. They are using recent post and they are improving the post
 
:29928995 f
 
In fact, I edit a lot of post like that.
Am I the troll?
 
Sam
Ask Closey.
 
@Tunaki What is the first thing that comes to mind when you see the word swamp?
 
3:33 PM
onions
 
The picture of a swamp. Blargh.
 
Your messing with my word association test. You must be a troll ;)
 
@ryanyuyu My personal approach when reviewing suggested edits: First, click "improve"; if I can't find any serious problem that was left, or <=5 small ones (spelling, grammar), I'll either improve or accept. If any big problem or lots of small ones were missed, I reject & edit.
 
still computing the joke..... ...... ....... TimeoutException!
 
That way, anyone just formatting code that already appeared as code will see rejects, and hopefully improve their edits.
 
3:35 PM
:P
 
@Mogsdad That deserves a mod flag
 
On a tag wiki? Hilarious.
 
And what could be flagged? It's a wiki edit.
 
@Mogsdad One of the approvers' posts.
 
3:48 PM
Flag a post of yours. With some luck, the mod will delete it :p
 
@Mogsdad What undo said
 
Ok. Of course, I've got custom flags that are a month old, so...
 
@Mogsdad yeah, there's a backlog.
 
Flagged - both approvers are fairly high rep users, should know better.
 
Well you need a high rep to be even able to review wiki edit in the first place
20K?
 
3:51 PM
@Tunaki 5k
 
Ah yes. I'm confused with making them without review :(
 
At least all my plagiarism flags have been reviewed!
 
You need more buzzword in your flags. Add "plagiarism" and "fraud". It'll be handled quickly :)
 
@Tunaki Can you ping mods in flags? ;^)
 
You could try to add Scooby snacks in them.
 
3:57 PM
:D I received a invite for developer story
 
yay
 
@Tunaki I actually fold a little piece of bacon into each custom flag.
 
lol
@Mogsdad Looks like a typo but I am surprised it lasted a year
 
I'm leaving it... it's excellent Dad humour.
 
@Mogsdad Isn't that an oxymoron?
 
4:03 PM
Grrr
 
4:24 PM
Here's another user making many tag-only edits. Can't ping them on any of their posts... because they have none. What to do? stackoverflow.com/users/4215429/…
 
@Mogsdad You can ping them on any post they have an approved edit on as long as no one else has edited it yet
 
Oh? Ok, I'll try that. Won't work on the ones I improved, of course.
 
Actually, I think any editor of the post is pingable. Just won't autosuggest.
 
I think you can actually always ping someone who edited
 
Oh cool. I knew you could do it for the current one. I did not know if it would work for a past editor. Do we want to test it?
 
4:28 PM
@NathanOliver Sure. Try this meta post by Gothdo that I edited and he re-edited.
 
You don't get auto-completion on the @, unfortunately, but I've left this: stackoverflow.com/questions/25819197/….
 
@Mogsdad that's standard. There's a MSE post about this somewhere around
 
I'll be afk for a while, so keep your eyes out, and help Katie if she drops in.
 
@ryanyuyu test sent
 
@NathanOliver yep. proof
 
4:30 PM
isn't it @KatieHurley, connected instead of dashed, or does it trigger on the first three letters?
 
Awesome \o/
 
@Adriaan I also think it is : ), lets hope three letters are enough...
 
In a ping, you need to write the characters together, no space.
 
Yeah. Proper way is to remove the space. I think. Read on MSE
 
@Mogsdad, check on how you should ping ----^
 
4:43 PM
I'm not sure whether the hyphen will mess up the notification. Should we repost Mogsdad's coment?
 
@ryanyuyu Please change your username with a dash so we can test :p
 
You can test with me : )
 
I know you need to remove spaces. Dash, not sure.
 
@Tunaki I'm on to you. Then I'd be stuck for 30 days.
 
too bad, he knows it
 
4:47 PM
but does he know that he doesn't have to?
 
commuting home cya..
 
Bye o/
 
Sam
Cya
 
@Tunaki nice
@PetterFriberg Did you get my comment ping?
 
4:50 PM
Yeah : )
 
Sam
@Tunaki Congrats
 
Wow. Ok. Then Mogs' comment is good to good.
 
but I do not know if it was the best test since I commented on it..
 
Hmm. Yeah. Should be ok though? Probably?
 
lol, @ryanyuyu test on this stackoverflow.com/questions/34530967/…
yeah it works also with - the comment arrived.
 
4:56 PM
flagged the comment as "too chatty"
 
@Tunaki ?
 
@ryanyuyu now you can roll back : )
 
What did you change there? The diff is empty :/
 
I added some space between the blocks for readability... (I would have liked to remove the yellow bg from the image, but ryanyuyu would have killed me)
 
Yeah. Markdown diff fail.
 
5:00 PM
What?, you can clearly see the new lines..
 
afk for lunch
 
It depends on the amount of coffee running in your system.
sigh looks like I'm making friends again...
 
5:15 PM
@Tunaki coffee isn't very good inside your computer afaik...
 
I like to the think the k stands for kill
 
kyll
 
lol
I like the mod comment on that sd report
> If I were looking for identity theft protection (which is itself a gross misnomer) I'd start by not calling random phone numbers that spammers publish on random sites.
 
hehe
 
@Adriaan that's actually the secret to quantum computing
just give computers coffee
 
5:28 PM
@TylerH staff in the quantum computing department here do drink a lot of coffee, but you're not allowed to bring it into the labs under any circumstances
 
Hmm, now I want to try put coffee in my cpu cooler :p
 
proper labs don't allow any food or drinks inside
 
@Thaillie Instructions unclear; created SkyNet
 
also, you wash your hands before consuming any of these substances:P
 
@TylerH Would be fun if that happened :p
 
5:33 PM
for a suitable meaning of "fun"
 
@AndrasDeak true that
 
5:56 PM
0
Q: The tag wiki itself says it should not be used, so Burninate [featured]

DruzionAccording to the featured tag wiki: give special prominence, attention, or publicity to items in a collection. This tag should not be used as discussed here on meta So, the tag wiki says that it should not be used, so why does it exist? I suggest we burninate it, it only has 134...

 
@Feeds Wha? LOL
Never knew main sites can have questions.
 
Yes but they're not "featured" on the site
no relation to the featured tag on meta
 
Where is Kyll
 
He's Kylling someone, mayhaps
 
Gone from this Earth
 
5:59 PM
Which Earth? Looks down
 
I need to do his job.
 
Plopping?
 
What's that?
 
@JanDvorak Dream job of squirrels with spears
 
Yeah he must be plopping that slacker.
 
6:06 PM
@Tunaki that's what she said?
 
@TylerH no no, that what she said.
 
oh
You guys would be proud; I just posted a meta question and I went out of my way to make sure it included a free-hand circle
 
That's amazing.
 
I saw :D
 
@TylerH Whoa, you iz a legend
 
Sam
6:08 PM
@TylerH +1
 
Also TIL Win+Pause/Break keys take you to the System Properties window
@Tunaki really
You felt compelled to link to his profile page? :-P
 
Yeah. It's a OCD thing. Nothing to worry about.
 
for those who don't know the mods
 
I figure it's more important that I capitalize the C in Clock than it is to link to him
 
Note, I also capitalized the C :) (that ^)
 
6:13 PM
@Adriaan @katie-hurley worked fine. (It's in the user's profile link.) @katiehurley would also have worked. FYI, Katie responded, and has some more info to make more substantial edits, so mission accomplished. Moving on.
 
And I reproduce also (same Firefox as you)
 
Too much personal info.
 
@Tunaki good to know
 
@TylerH It wasn't an audit. A mod banned the user for approving that edit.
 
Oh
Still, how can they know
 
6:21 PM
@Tunaki why would anyone approve edits of style?
especially of anon users
And why are Raven's old questions being edited now with silliness? Is this the trolling aspect?
 
6:42 PM
@Mogsdad commented to the answerer
 
Is that edit okay? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/12007288 I was on my way to reject it but it was concurrently approved (by OP).
 
@Tunaki Well there's a typo in the edit description but otherwise yes it's good
code inside brackets ought to be indented! :-)
 
Messing with OP's indentation in a Python question?
 
in this case, after a colon
OP already indented the second thing that way
just not the first
so OP was just making the first bit line up with the second
in a way, normalizing OP's code
I mean, I don't know if I would have approved it, but I certainly wouldn't roll it back
I probably would have rejected it because it isn't really substantive and the question is unreproducible and at -5 anyway
 
@Tunaki I usually reject python indentation edits, since they change the code's meaning. But when OP approves it, then I don't care.
 
6:48 PM
Okay, moving on.
 
brb changing my username to OP and approving all the Python indentation edits :-D
 
Hold on, I still have beer in my fridge; gonna pop it
 
^ As someone commented: "This is a paying job, not a question."
 
It always make me laugh that people look at SO as a replacement to doing anything.
 
7:09 PM
@NathanOliver I use SO chat as a replacement for doing work
 
@gunr2171 Yeah that's chat. You aren't running around trying to post your homework or work assignment for others to do
 
well, speaking of that...
so a train is traveling East from Boston at 50 mph....
 
@gunr2171 chat.MathSE :P
 
na, it's "programming related", even if I don't use a language tag
 
lol.
 
7:13 PM
you just need an
 
still waiting for the end of the story
 
Oh side topic are you available tonight for a little factorio? I found a crossing I think you will like
 
@NathanOliver I think so, but later later on. Maybe around 6:30-7
(still in a meeting)
 
Do I have to post a burnination request for a tag with 50 questions? Or can I just apply the SOCVR procedure on my own? (Speaking about the tag)
 
np. I should be on my computer around then. just send me a message. oh yeah. Its Wednesday.
 
7:17 PM
yep....
 
@Floern My rule of thumb is if it <=50 Q's then you can dirn it down yourself. Just follow the suggested guidelines.
 
dirn
dirn
what?
 
@gunr2171 It means "dirn".
 
dirn == burn in nathan speak
 
in nathan speak?
 
7:21 PM
not sure how that happened.
 
@NathanOliver ok, well then
 
@Tunaki You know, the official language of that little world I live in.
 
Can I Haz Dictionary?
@Floern You can also ask rene if he's okay with adding the tag in Closey's SEDE so that everyone filters on it.
 
but if you do that, spend a day going through all the posts and cv-ing all the ones that should be closed so the cv queue is seeded
 
@NathanOliver just keep it in English, we don't want to copy everything from the Python room...
 
7:26 PM
Can do. I honestly have no idea what my fingers were doing. D is nowhere near B
 
@NathanOliver What about I and U?
 
Not "copy everything from", "pay homage to"
 
@Closey alive
 
crud
 
I obviously need to leave the witty statements to Jan
 
7:27 PM
i'm on it
 
Closey... :(
 
@Tunaki Well U is right next to I so I can accept that mistake.
 
@NathanOliver no U can accept that mistake...
 
nooooooooooo
 
roflmao
 
7:28 PM
@Tunaki doesn't look like there are many questions on that tag that should be closed though
 
Ah good.
 
I couldn't stand having "you" replaced with a key on the keyboard.
2
 
.aaaand dasblinkenlight gets 'Rep-PersonalServicesWorker of the month' for this: stackoverflow.com/questions/36607751/…
 
They need a "you" key on phones. I hate seeing u constantly in text messages.
 
U have a star @Jan
 
7:29 PM
Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 4c52c9c8 on master, running for 19 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
 
@Closey who's your daddy
 
@PetterFriberg all good
 
@CindyMeister I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
7:31 PM
: ), great have you implemented some new nice math features?
 
Addition would be a great start.
 
@PetterFriberg I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
He is in a meeting to discuss what topics the math course should cover
 
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Closey tags
 
7:33 PM
next n tags
 
@Closey next 3 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@ryanyuyu The next 3 tags are: 32, 31, 27
 
thanks
 
excel ...
 
ryanyuyu passed a audit!
 
continue to be skeptical that filtering on tags is efficiente
 
@WaiHaLee I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
Eh
That means I've gotta update Closey again.
 
@rene Well a least they say they are going to do something.
 
yeah
 
7:41 PM
I think just getting more reviewer might help. I didn't close vote for the longest time because I was at 2.5k rep for a long time.
 
> 113 users maxed out their close vote reviews
^ that tells a lot.
 
60 reviews is a lot. I couldn't do it.
 
Yeah they need to expose the review que, so we can do some fun stuff with... Find question to edit out, find questions that can be closed ecc.
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
I even think that they should implement @Gothdo, script for everybody (3k)... to get people to enter the que.
 
7:45 PM
There are 34808 users with more than 3K. 113 capping at least once in the whole month means 0.3% of the pool of potential users capped at least once in a month...
 
@PetterFriberg What do you mean?
 
Your script for free for everybody : )
If people see that a question or answer is in review they get more eager to enter and when you review on, you review another....
 
@PetterFriberg Well, the feature request is not [status-declined], so I guess there's still hope they'll give it back.
 
@Tunaki It was also less then when it was only 40 reviews per day. In the 30 days before the test there were 150 people who capped.
 
Interesting.
 
7:55 PM
Yeah. I though more would have done it just to say they did. We need to figure out a way to get more people to want to review.
 
@NathanOliver It's a lot easier to get burned out doing 60 a day
 
Hello @bluefeet o/
 
^^
 
Hi @bluefeet. I get that. I just thought people would have tried to do it.
 
Those last 20 are tough if you've already reviewed 40ish bad questions
 
7:57 PM
Oh yeah. There are days I don't even go into the queue as I know what is in store for me.
 
Yeah we need more people and a funny way to review
 
@PetterFriberg Do you mean random waffles instead of questions in the queue?
 
I have to admit that the promise of a gold badge is pretty good motivation. Well at least until I finish 1000 reviews.
 
It is a problem that is going to take a lot of time, effort and testing to solve.
 
Allow reviewers to post snarky comments. Win!
 
7:59 PM
@JanDvorak ban
 
Increasing the number of close votes based on rep is a really good idea IMO.
(apart from having close votes weighted by badges :) )
 
That could also let you drop the minimum reputation limit to say 2k or 2.5k for close vote reviews. Just start them with like 10 reviews.
 
It is but IMHO it is duct tape. It helps but it doesn't really fix it.
 
that's been suggested a lot @Tunaki and I'm going to be looking closer at how we would implement it
 
I think if they let people play some with the que it would not do any harm, but make it more funny and you can target what you like as "I like to save some question today-->Find question with 1 cv, up votes", "I like to be last close voter --> 4 cv", ecc.
 
8:01 PM
It would be nice to have advanced filtering.
 
It is pretty satisfying being the binding vote to close something.
 
Filtering by number of close votes would be nice.
 
@bluefeet we kept some track-record of the regulars here. We'll see if we can get some overall stats for this room.
 
Yes, 60 is a lot. I just finished 40 from the queue and feel much "better" than when it was 60. And some left over for outside the queue, which sometimes I need... But there's no a lot of activity here tonight :-)
 
Inversely it sucks casting the first close vote and seeing it malinger for days until dying of old age.
 
8:05 PM
The current filter on tags just seems counter productive to me (if you filter on non high traffic tags)
 
@ryanyuyu That is why it would be nice to say show me all cv1's that are about to age away in the queue. Then you could go through and fix the stuff that has no attention and if it is really CV worthy then cast another CV to stop the vote from aging away and keep it in the queue.
 
@PetterFriberg It is nice to have for gold badgers. I can filter by java in the queue and hammer questions.
But I don't think many gold badgers use it...
 
goes answering c# questions
 
Yeah if you have the info, you can do lot of nice stuff, all ideas welcome, and personalizza your own review que.
 
@rene 410 to go :)
 
8:07 PM
Took me 5 years to get to 600 ....
I'm mainly rep-whoring in whatever tag I stumble on....
 
grumble Sam grumble
 
Sam
@Tunaki grumble grumble I'm busy grumble grumble
 
8:25 PM
@Gothdo what a title
 
@Tunaki I would recommend the author of this question to learn English first.
 
8:52 PM
quick c# question: is there a shorter way to flip the value of a boolean than someValue = !someValue;?
 
Sometimes.
 
I don't think there is a general shorter way in Java. Probably the same for C#.
 
^= true ?
 
@gunr2171 shorter in what sense?
 
another operator
like i++ for "add 1 to a value"
 
8:54 PM
= is pretty short
 
rather than i = i + 1
 
gunr wants != but it means something else :)
 
bool^^
 
meh, ok. thanks anyways
 
@gunr2171 SO to the rescue stackoverflow.com/q/8912353/1743880
 
8:55 PM
 
SO NO!
 
so yes?
 
Sam
@JanDvorak Yeah, that should work.
 
@JanDvorak in IL that is the same as s =!s
 
ah, ok
 
Sam
Which might be shorter than what @gunr's doing.
 
modifyIORef someValue not
 
thanks all
i'm out for now, back later
 
Sam
cya
 
9:13 PM
I need to start to use this syntax formatting seems really cool while (x --> 0)
 
Lovely username
 
10:03 PM
sigh tool request now has a bounty on it: stackoverflow.com/questions/36499810/…
 
@cimmanon Already raised a moderator flag?
 
yeah
 
10:14 PM
@cimmanon *cough* repwhore *cough*
poor other guy: registered for 2 years, first and only answer is on a tool rec...
 
10:39 PM
@PaulRoub Quick question. I assume you flagged as abusive. Were they marked helpful?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Adriaan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Alexander O'Mara passed a audit!
Alexander O'Mara passed a audit!
Alexander O'Mara passed an audit!
 
10:55 PM
wat
they're onto you, @Alexander...
 
Sam
Night guys
 
I got one but I failed that
 
\o @Sam
 
@Sam night
 
Adriaan passed a audit!
 
10:58 PM
Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 1 hour to continue reviewing. :O My votes!
 
I took them all.
 
sd f -edited (roll back, OP defaced the post) (I know Im not actually allowed to do this)
 
you're allowed to, Smokey just don't give a crap:P
and I don't think they can delete with 3 zero-score answers
 
@AndrasDeak hence the mod-flag option
 
"I'd like to have my question deleted because I'm a twat"
 
11:06 PM
@AndrasDeak one of the English mods might actually giggle at that for the British slang, but I doubt that's a helpful phrase in this case :D
 
@Tunaki Yes.
 
Okay thanks
 
@AndrasDeak He suggests increasing the amount of CVs based on rep darn, then I should get back to answering instead of closing everything
 
*she
I very strongly disagree with that suggestion, though (but I've yet to read the MSE proposal)
@Adriaan oh you meant tchrist? Then yes, he.
 
11:15 PM
@AndrasDeak Bluefeet links to this post in her post you linked
 
yeah, I just thought you were referring to bluefeet
 

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