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6:05 PM
I just saw a question in C,
Of course it's a pool of pee,
The OP's such a dunce,
and I downvoted at once,
For this, we should all charge a fee.
6
 
@MartinJames +1 for Limerick form, and remaining just this side of "too far" in OP-related commentary!
 
@Braiam this is why we can't have nice things
 
@gunr2171 Here's the new StackOverflow logo! Pretty much the same as the old logo, but we removed one stick to save on e-ink.
 
6:16 PM
> 100% REST-compliant as defined by some guy on Hacker News with maximal opinions and minimal evidence.
 
@rene cheers
 
> May the Developer Happiness achieved forever commemorate its sacrifice.
 
cc @Madara ^^^^ =D
 
@Kyll Yeah, the world we live in is so screwed up
Instead of ending the practice of fractions of dollars and cents, which is what makes sense, we craft these complex apparati to handle it
 
?
 
6:22 PM
I forgot to say hello.
Plop!
 
yo
 
Plop =D
 
Plop!
 
Hiya
 
@Kyll You linked to a page which mentioned one of the biggest problems with NPM losing left pad
 
6:26 PM
Yes.
 
that being fractional dollar amounts in stock trading apps
 
Oh. I get it! ^^'
 
I'm not a huge fan of modern finance :-)
except compounding interest of course
but reading github.com/azer/left-pad/issues/4 I'm glad I do'nt use NPM
 
all this for a lousy 3 line long script?
 
@Tunaki 11 lines!
 
6:31 PM
Sounds like it'd just be waaaaaay easier to just write the thing yourself
 
Yes. It's been pointed out as a huge flaw in NPM dependency architecture.
 
JAL
@TylerH It gets better left-pad.io
 
@JAL Already linked above =D
 
@BhargavRao Huh I think there's part answer and part ranting on the part answer
 
6:33 PM
@Tunaki The part answer is from the accepted answer.
 
Ha.
Nuke it then.
 
JAL
@Kyll where? I don't see the left-pad-as-a-service link elsewhere
 
But you might want to comment that it points at the accepted answer
 
JAL
ohhh thanks
@rene it used to say Stack Overflow
 
6:35 PM
More specifically this is a comment on this answer which mentions that string and the quote Quite easily from PowerShellBhargav Rao 41 secs ago
 
@Kyll wow, that was hell of a shit-storm
 
Hey, you stole my "More specifically" comment
Sending lawyers...
 
Yeah fine. I have my anticipatory bail order ready
Have 15 flags and 1 hr b4 I doze off. :|
 
Twice the time to cast them then
 
Sam
6:39 PM
Hiya!
 
@JAL seriously?
 
@JAL just... what the.... what?!
 
@Sam Hiya
 
return toString.call(arr) == '[object Array]';
you can't be serious...
 
Oh.. I just found I got PowerShell installed, under 'Accessories'. Not noticed that before. Then again, only been using this PC for six years.
 
6:44 PM
> I found out about this problem like a lot of you, when our builds started failing because we use the extremely helpful JSCS. Through a long chain of dependencies, JSCS relied on left-pad@0.0.3, which was removed by the author yesterday. Our team was confused at the time as well. medium.com/@mproberts/…
That's funny.
 
There is another package called is-positive-integer npmjs.com/package/is-positive-integer
 
@MartinJames Script all the things \o/
 
return x * 1 === x && x % 1 === 0 && x > 0
 
@Tunaki wat
 
I have to admit
The first statement is why I don't do JavaScript.
 
6:48 PM
..................................
 
Hi!
 
npm guys just took it too far
 
Hi
exactly
 
just having int > 0 should be enough...
 
6:49 PM
I am in the middle of uploading a college project to github - it has some keys from some third party modules etc
 
@Perfect_Comment wrong room if you have a programming problem
 
Ok i am very sorry
Ok i will go and try find a more suitable room!
Thank you
 
@Kyll Explain it to me like I'm a five year-old please. x * 1 === x. Really?? In what universe and normal language would x * 1 !== x?
 
@Tunaki Probably some kind of float-weirdness going on. You may have to ask Tny or Madara about that. Let me try a few things...
 
@Tunaki I think strings give different results
"string" * 1
NaN
 
6:52 PM
@Braiam Strings would NaN on that, might be the explanation
Since NaN !== NaN
 
who would ever want to multiply a string with a number?
 
@Tunaki they don't want... is just a hack to know if it's a number
 
So it may be a weird statement to handle all non-numeral values by turning them to NaN
 
if it's a number then continue with stuf
 
I have just send someone away with their programming problem, can we cut down a bit on the off-topic-ness of the NPM screw up?
 
6:54 PM
Will do!
 
Thx
 
it read as "is a number and it can be divided by one and is larger than 0"
 
@Tunaki PHP developers.
 
JAL
@Closey refresh tags
 
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JAL
7:02 PM
@Closey next 5 tags
 
@JAL The next 5 tags are: 1337, 36, 29, 26, 26
@JAL I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
There should be a few guidelines questions in the queue, seeded by yours truly.
 
yeah, me
 
I voted on them all already. Taking a second batch :)
 
JAL
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[guidelines] [opencv]"
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[guidelines] [opencv] [frontend]"
 
@Lafexlos I would say so yes
 
@Lafexlos could also be a I have this same problem, thanks for the answer
 
@Lafexlos I'd say NAA
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Thanks. :D
 
7:11 PM
flagged for three different reasons stackoverflow.com/review/close/11760853
 
Feb 23 at 19:18, by Bhargav Rao
Going with POB here http://i.stack.imgur.com/hAs7W.png
 
JAL
Just got this as an audit. Anyone think it is too broad?
 
all right, just threw 30 votes at guidelines
 
JAL passed a audit!
 
@JAL hahaha, I skipped that one
 
JAL
7:20 PM
@EricD. it compiles so i think it would be ok for CR
 
@JAL CR needs much more than "it compiles"
 
JAL
@Tunaki either way, read the question. it's a code review question
but yes you're right, that isn't fair to say
 
Pretty much yeah. What is import Foundation? CR needs the whole dumped code
 
JAL
@Tunaki that's a Swift module, it's required by all programs that use the built in data types
 
I guess it's okay for CR then.
 
7:23 PM
no POB on design?
 
JAL
I'm going through now but am checking periodically to see if any of Tuna's flags show up
 
c# question, viewed 2 times since 3 hours ago... one of them was for a close vote
 
It's not really a design question. It's asking if the code is okay "Is this prone to some errors?". And for something to be POB on CodeReview, you would really need to be asking "Tabs or spaces"?
I still haven't seen a single question closed as POB there. (Granted it's not a long time but still)
 
JAL
@Tunaki oh god, i can't imagine the backlash from tabs vs spaces
 
@Tunaki that's because the whole site is POB
 
7:26 PM
But it's a good form of POB. Opinions backed by expertise.
 
Yeah I'm not saying it's crappy or anything
just that everyone's gonna have different ways to improve the code
 
I need a new mouse... single left click became double left click :/
and is in the middle of the Holy Week, so...
 
JAL
VTC'd as POB, shame i got the failure, but at least it won't be an audit anymore
 
@JAL bad audit
 
JAL
yes
 
7:29 PM
@Braiam the holy week?
you mean Lent?
did you swear off double clicking for Lent or something?
 
JAL
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 4 hours.
 
@JAL I'd vote too but I'm out as well
 
@Fred-ii- I understand your point, but just like for [cv-pls] you should provide a reason for why this is entirely useless / actively harmful for So and unlikely to be salvaged by an edit, even from the OP. In that case, "Just a two-lines program description". Sorry to be so picky =p
 
JAL
@TylerH thanks, I'll just add it as a cv-pls and people will get to it eventually
 
@Kyll yeah I know but that one was pretty obvious.
 
7:34 PM
@Fred-ii- Yeah but then people say we're mean =|
 
that ^
please?
 
You just need to give them some great suggestions, e.g: stackoverflow.com/questions/36208146/… and they will thank you with a comment :P
 
[delv-pls] ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ <link>
Everybody likes a bear, So we won't be mean
 
> I'm voting to close this question as off topic because bear
 
@gunr2171 yeap
 
7:38 PM
bear will be happy (ᵔᴥᵔ)
 
@Kyll Hm.... I can't see why they would. We give them ample time, the benefit of the doubt, comments... etc. the whole 9 yds., and they expect a magic answer to appear. That won't happen. We can't be wearing kids gloves if they expect to be treated as professionals.
 
It's not just new users that we need to worry about
 
@Fred-ii- Oh, not OP. People on Meta will go crazy and say "See, THIS IS HOW they moderate!"
 
Bear with me a bit..
 
that's bearly a joke
 
7:39 PM
@Kyll ah ok. I understand.
 
Yeah =|
 
Far too many kids out there who want to drive Lamborghinis but haven't a valid license to drive or even know HOW to drive ;)
 
@Fred-ii- People on Meta will go crazy <- And we had that already about this room.
 
[delv-pls] ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ <link>
 
@Fred-ii- They expect to be treated as professionals right up to the point where they get criticized for something, then it's all 'elitist, hostile, nazi' blah..blah..
 
7:41 PM
@PetterFriberg I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
so, we all need to learn necromancy and make an army of undeads and, and...
we have an army of undeads, isn't that like awesome?
 
@MartinJames Believe me, I hold back on a lot of stuff. I go passed most of the "best of the worse" questions and don't even bother commenting. I like to pick and choose the good questions or the ones that show some effort and/or a will to learn. Not just throwing them a piece of meat and feed them hungry little souls till the next time.
 
@Braiam ...and hunt down the spearrel.
 
@Fred-ii- We believe you. . =p
@gunr2171 I veto that!
Hold on I don't have a veto here
 
@Kyll and mysql too ;) thanks
 
7:44 PM
starts running
 
:P
 
@Braiam Android room - they're all zombies in there.
 
@Kyll You don't. You might earn one depending on what you say about Java.
 
Possible sleeper sock-puppet account? I made the first profile view due to this suggested edit, their very first activity on SO. Account
 
7:47 PM
@BhargavRao feeted.
 
@BhargavRao yeah, that protection did a lot....
 
@Kyll Everyone has a veto here! But like "meta", it doesn't mean what it does in the outside world. Here, it means "waffle".
 
@Tunaki Is it one of those honesty test, or a boot-licking one?
 
Wow those feet were quick.
 
8:01 PM
@Tuna what is the official name of NATO?
 
Feb 23 at 18:47, by Bhargav Rao
Oh And NATO means New Answers To Old questions which is this page http://stackoverflow.com/tools/new-answers-old-questions
 
New Answers to Old Questions
That doesn't count as a ninja.
 
JAL
@PravinS Please do not edit non-answers. As you can see, this is an "I'm having this problem too" post and is not acceptable as an answer (see the help center). Editing non-answers invalidates community flags on them. — JAL 13 secs ago
that guy edited 2 NAAs...
 
8:17 PM
@Tuna do you have some time to edit?
 
sure
 
@Tuna I want not to say yes or no, I just like to show and explain....
 
JAL
@EricD. really?
 
reading
 
@JAL Literal interpretation. I took "all you need to do is set the info in you map instance then just open it" as the answer. While frowning, I admit.
 
JAL
8:20 PM
@EricD. meh, fair
 
@Gothdo I have posted a meta displaying what your user script did to the interface, currently I have not given any credit to you... I do not know if you liked to be mention, but I would be happy to tell that you made the userscript if you like this the meta is: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/319692/5292302
 
@JAL I just sometimes prefer the safe way :/
I mean: I try to follow Shog's apples stuff to the letter.
 
@Drew let SO everybody know, let us show them... maybe 10K 20K user can have access...
 
@DavidG you around, got a c# question for you
 
@cimmanon can dupe hammer
 
8:24 PM
@PetterFriberg I like it a lot. Typo in your screenshot: it is "queue" not "que". And edited a bit.
 
Out of flags ---> (╯°□°)╯︵ oʇɐu
 
@Tuna thanks
 
you could perhaps cut that screenshot a bit also so that you can read better
 
(never mind, solved it)
 
Thanks Eric Lippert
 
8:29 PM
which is funny, because it came from this basicly NAA stackoverflow.com/a/10387234/1043380
uh... (well, I guess he wants the post removed)
 
To me?
 
no petter, you're fine.
correct action
 
@gunr2171 yikes
looks like that question is a super dupe anyway
 
@PetterFriberg Point 3. for questions: if you saw it had been improved, you could open the review and choose "leave open", an option not available otherwise.
 
@Mogsdad Thanks, I added that
 
8:35 PM
I'd reword point 2 to say "If you had an insight that would improve a question, you could open the review and edit it from there, ending the close review."
Overall, it would be good to underline the value that taking these actions from the review panel has.
Um. The hand-drawn circles and arrow. They are. Um.
 
Just correct the queue typo :)
 
Bye all, I'll go to sleep. o/
 
@PetterFriberg My daughter just walked by while I had your post up on the screen, and told her mom I was making dirty pictures!
@BhargavRao \o
 
lol, luckily mine is sleeping
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed a audit!
 
8:49 PM
How long until a vote is locked in? 20 minutes?
 
@Mogsdad Thanks edit in point 2.... but red circles will remain : ), I don't have original any more : )
 
Well, maybe if I squint at it... Yeah, that's better. It's an angry singer.
 
rene passed a audit!
 
@TylerH what vote? close vote?
 
no like upvote/downvote
once you vote on a post, after a certain period your vote is locked in unless the question is edited by someone else
 
8:54 PM
5 minutes I think
 
@AndrasDeak I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
thanks
 
@TylerH 5 minutes
 
thanks
 
It's five minutes. After an edit, the period restarts.
 
8:55 PM
Hullo everyone.
 
@JoshCaswell Hi
 
@TylerH 16*2+3/7 minutes
 
thanks I got it the first two times
 
@Closey current tag
 
8:57 PM
@Braiam Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean current tag?
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Braiam The current tag is with 1337 known review items.
 
@Braiam also on the starboard ...
 
@Closey Really, because I cleared the queue earlier today after about 30 questions...
 
No, it is a lie
 
Yeah, it does seem like a bad tag from the first look.
 
@Tunaki left some ue in the image... try to find it : )
 
8:58 PM
everything is imaginary here, including the number of questions in the queue
In reality there is no queue
 
mm... do we accept this kind of questions? stackoverflow.com/q/33264892/792066
 
In reality, there is no reality
It is all the matrix and what it feeds us
 
"is X following the guidelines?"
 
@Braiam nah
 
Looks OT to me. I have a snippet I use when people ask that kind of thing about the iOS app store, pointing at the Meta post Are developer-centric questions about application stores on topic?
 
9:01 PM
@JoshCaswell The problem with the OT acronym is that both off-topic and on-topic shorten to OT :-P
 
@TylerH Eek. That was silly of me. OFT, then.
 
@AndrasDeak since I know you where involved, I inform you that I have posted an answer on @Drew post.... I'm happy to take suggestions...
 
This seems like something someone here may know: is there a mod-applied/manual flag ban? Or are they strictly automatic?
 
@PetterFriberg thanks, I've seen it, it's really good:)
informative for the guys
that's what I would've expected Drew to write in the question itself
 
I am often wrong
 
9:03 PM
Yeah... me too.
 
I was in a hurry
 
I'm almost never.
 
@Drew You are guerrilla warrior : )
 
Thought I was wrong once.
But I was mistaken.
 
@Closey status
 
9:06 PM
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 1 day, 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 21 seconds (tracking latency 37121ms).
 
Don't hurry. I waited 2 weeks to post my "Merge NAA and VLQ" flags by pondering the pro/cons. And the same for my other questions, there was at least a couple of hours of thought.
 
@AndrasDeak You're still always? Or are you sometimes yet?
 
Tuna we dont have 2 weeks for this one
 
@TylerH I haven't slept enough for that one, I'm afraid:D
 
@AndrasDeak You said you're almost never
so on a sliding scale of always ---> sometimes ---> never
 
9:08 PM
@Tuna @Gothdo does not seem to be around, do you think I should edit in the attribution or wait for approval..
 
...if you see where I'm going :-)
 
@PetterFriberg attribution?
 
@TylerH yeah I had a hunch like that
couldn't put it together
 
For the user script...
 
yes
 
9:09 PM
I'm pretty sometimes
 
Ha. Huh. Yeah. You can even link to the userscript.
 
lol that sounds different from what I mean:D
 
I don't know if he likes to be mention, if it gets some heat?
 
Meta posts that you care about are especially important to review before posting. You're actually trying to convince people of something, not just asking them for help.
 
that is a good point
 
9:10 PM
You've got to make sure it's clear communication.
I have to admit, I did not understand your Meta post until reading it and the comments a few times.
 
@Drew So I wait?
 
Yes. And I knew what you were talking about before you posted it. So for people who didn't...
 
@JoshCaswell You mean my answer or Drew question : ) ?
 
I am of the camp that I am failing with that anyway @JoshCaswell
 
@PetterFriberg The question, sorry. Actually, your answer made the question even clearer.
 
9:11 PM
no one comprehends jack
 
@JoshCaswell We almost never understand what Drew is trying to tell us : ), you need always to do some guessing..
 
@PetterFriberg Drew should perhaps be called Pythia?
 
How do I review this http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/11763509 ?
My initial thought is Reject - Vandalism. But I noted in the comments, the question author requested the code in question not be posted publicly - which the answer does. So the questioner is the author of the edit in question.
 
do you know what moves stuff in ios. I do
 
@OhBeWise Yes, reject > vandalism. If the OP wants to take down the question because they weren't supposed to post the code, they should raise a mod flag.
 
9:15 PM
@PetterFriberg I added a comment, I think you don't have to make attribution in the post.
 
@OhBeWise reject
 
@OhBeWise reject
 
Andras Deak passed an audit!
 
Any suggestion for the OP author on what course to take? Or just let it work itself out?
 
@Gothdo Then I prefeer to edit it in : )
 
9:17 PM
@sclv I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@OhBeWise do notice that the OP of the question also vandalized their question
I think
 
@rene Ah yes, I see in edit history the same code was removed. Looks like he posted it for the answerer to review, then removed for code privacy.
 
@OhBeWise yeah, or it is the OP's homework assignment
 
@rene Ah! Avoiding getting in trouble.
 
@Gothdo, I edit in attribution, thanks.
 
9:21 PM
Can anyone else have a look if this needs a roll-back? @Tunaki @Mogsdad
 
@PetterFriberg You added link to my chat profile; I changed it to SO profile. I hope you don't mind.
 
@Gothdo thanks : ), sorry... coping and pasting in the dark...
 
@rene I looked at it. I think it needs to. It invalidated the answer.
 
sclv passed an audit!
 
Wafflez we did it at the same time
 
9:24 PM
\o/
left a comment
 
Andras Deak passed a audit!
 
@OhBeWise Hi, I see you are almost ready to join us reviewing, you are always welcome to help us out reviewing and moderating....
 
@Tunaki OP responded
 
I'm looking for a nice Meta about this .
 
Petter Friberg passed an audit!
 
9:34 PM
@Tunaki if found one from Brad: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/316118/578411
 
nice
 
Any other advice for the OP?
 
The flip side of that is that I can't really know about some gist that relies on an undocumented feature unless someone links to it somewhere... (stackapps is always a good choice!) — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
 
@rene Not that I can see.
 
Please do not start a comment race on my answer... (just wanted to show you what we should do with scripts)
 
9:37 PM
Agree Petter. Let's not do that.
 
@AndrasDeak You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 40 minutes and 18 seconds, averaging to a review every 40 seconds.
 
thanks
 
sclv passed an audit!
 
@Drew why did you accept Petter's answer? Does it not hide your question in some way?
 
btw does the close vote queue always bump up so high on thursdays?
 
9:40 PM
Is a thing? Opposite of
 
it looked like it was doing so well a few days ago...
 
@sclv You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 22 minutes and 33 seconds, averaging to a review every 22 seconds.
 
@Drew Yeah I would not accepted it its not an answer, let a moderator answer... it seems like question ended....
 
Thank you @Gothdo.
 
9:45 PM
@PetterFriberg Yes, I will likely start joining in more often as I get a better feel for things.
 
@sclv yeah, thursday is the busiest day in the week, the aging script runs on saturday to bring it down again.
 
@OhBeWise To get feeling for things hang around here... it the perfect place to learn
 
when does roomba run the weeklies btw? sat also?
 
Saturday yeah
 
@rene I go for some food and miss drama. Poor, stupid kid.
 
9:47 PM
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@Tunaki 17 members (0% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 834 review items today, which accounts for 27% of all CV reviews today.
 
@Mogsdad sure
 
27%... look at that...
 
You like it or not?.... Yesterday we had mixed feelings... : )
 
Irrelevant. I want people to review, whether they are in here or not :)
 
9:49 PM
What percentage was just Jon?!
 
I'm out, need sleep
 
night rene
 
lol, it's possible to complete a First Post review as "Reviewed" without actually taking any action.
Do you think I should post it as a bug on Meta?
 
@PetterFriberg @AndrasDeak they are not willing to answer it
 
9:59 PM
@Gothdo What did you do exactly?
 
do I press it
I am one inch from a ban. Want that?
 
@Drew Don't press...
 
@Tunaki I unlocked the "I'm done" button in JS and clicked it without doing anything with the post.
 

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