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3:00 PM
@DavidG You selected two lines + the \n, is my guess. Try using double-click to select the two lines w/o the \n that starts the third line. Is it worth fixing? (Would someone used to a code editor find this a problem?)
@PraveenKumar Not sure what you want me to see.
 
@Mogsdad I used that and made it. These were the changes automatically done.
 
So just the magic-wand fixes, then?
 
I started with cursor at the start of the first line, pressed shift+down-arrow twice. Standard text-editor won't select the next line. TBH I'm happy the way it is now, good job.
 
Magisch passed a audit!
 
@Mogsdad Yea
 
3:04 PM
Why isn't PHP at the top of the dreaded tab?
 
and why is CoffeeScript there when vanilla JS isn't?
 
@DavidG I take it you don't like PHP.
 
@DavidG I'd wager because these are languages people have to use at work even when it's not their specialty
PHP is something you only use if it's your focus
 
@DavidG there is some other good news about PHP in there I mentioned earlier, should have tagged you
 
3:06 PM
but PHP7 I hear is streets ahead of PHP5 in terms of usability and sensibility, I've heard
 
@DavidG what do you use/prefer?
 
Sam
@Fred-ii- Assembly.
 
@Sam Powerful stuff.
 
@Fred-ii- Probably easier to check out my tag score for that answer :)
@TimCastelijns Oh?
 
@DavidG will do
 
3:07 PM
3 hours ago, by Tim Castelijns
More people use JavaScript than use any other programming language. PHP appears to be falling out of favor as Node and Angular emerge. - one small step for man..
@DavidG ^
 
Years of bad press during PHP5 will do that
 
@TimCastelijns you say that like it is a good thing
 
@DavidG I see. (no pun intended on the C) ;) I would probably go that route also if I wasn't working on NIX servers. I learned C a long time ago but didn't continue.
 
Considering the quality of Angular questions, I guess that will soon get a bad reputation like PHP :/
 
@JohannesJander it already does...
 
3:09 PM
@DavidG Good point - programmers who keep their hands on the keyboard will do that. (Let me guess... Emacs or Vi?)
 
Angular is just dumb IMO
 
@cimmanon I've personally never used PHP, only seen snippets. My opinion about PHP is worthless and twisted by all the bad things I've heard about it (I never hear good things about PHP)
 
@TimCastelijns Ahhhhhhhhhhh
2
 
@TimCastelijns i was referring more to your comment about the proliferation of javascript as being a positive instead of a negative. php is a bad enough language that it should die, but javascript isnt much better
 
@DavidG hehehe nice tune
 
3:11 PM
@DavidG I'll always upvote good music :-)
 
My favorite part of the survey: from the Challenges at work " Unrealistic expectations, poor documentation, and unspecific requirements are the most common workplace gripes for developers. Sound familiar" They feel our pain.
 
@MartinJames You're gonna enjoy this from a comedic perspective: stackoverflow.com/q/36036988/5389107
 
@cimmanon no sorry that was not my intention :)
 
@Fred-ii- C? It's C#! I love a good *nix box, but never dev'd on that platform
 
@PraveenKumar You might want to try out some badly formatted numbered lists... I think I've got most of the common screw-ups covered now.
 
3:12 PM
I use PHP mostly for database work and don't use it for the front-end at all. I have always used .shtml as an extension and if I need to include (pulled from db) I'll just include the .php
 
@Mogsdad Okie dokie.
 
@Magisch its a skill to write obfuscated code.
 
@Gimby Its a skill to write obfuscated code that isn't riddled with UB and works.
 
Magisch passed a audit!
 
3:14 PM
@Magisch I'm drawing a blank, what is UB an abbreviation of?
 
@Gimby Undefined behavior
stuff that sometimes works, until it suddenly doesnt
like free() ing some memory in the stack and then writing to it
it might work
even 500 times
 
"but it might erase your hard drive"
 
and the 501st time you get a seg fault or a system crash or memory corruption
 
or summon Cthulhu
 
Ian
Can this be considered "cannot be reproduced"?
 
3:15 PM
@Magisch yes thanks for immediately volunteering the definition too, you evil helpful person you ;)
 
@DavidG I've been working on NIX servers for well over 15 years now. But the irony of it all, is that I was raised on DOS 5 and later on... Windows 3.1 - I just never worked in a Windows environment for servers. Plus, it's always been said that the MAC was better at handling graphics than a PC, an industry I worked in for over 20 yrs.
 
@Gimby Well in C there is some stuff that will compile but that you're not supposed to be doing
depending on the implementation (c beeing a multi-implementation standards based language) it might work
or not
or it might make your server shit itself, erase the backend database and corrupt the backups before escaping across the border to mexico with the company budget
 
I hope some day platforms will be high level enough that they can actually steal from you. That's the day I quit IT and open up a bistro.
 
Sam
@Gimby Don't they do that to a degree already? :p
 
Beware of platforms raiding your counter
 
3:18 PM
Magisch passed a audit!
 
Sam
So many audits.
 
Wow, the audit system is after Magisch
 
Sam
It's a trap @Mag!
 
let's just hope the final number is correct
 
Maybe because the c questions are so obviously awful today that im closing alot faster then usual
 
Sam
3:19 PM
inb4 closey dies
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version dcf4566e on master, running for 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 30 seconds (tracking latency 1163ms).
 
Sam
1.2 secs, not bad.
 
@Magisch You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 24 minutes and 37 seconds, averaging to a review every 24 seconds.
 
1.163 second lag... TIL Closey is running on the Moon
 
3:20 PM
Now you see why so many audits today
 
@Sam What does tracking latency actually mean?
 
Back
 
@Magisch I had 4 audits in 60 posts today
 
@Ferrybig time it takes to send a signal from us to Closey's server
 
I hope you didn't break anything. Do I need to read the transcript?
 
3:21 PM
Why 60 posts today though?
I thought 40 was hard limit
 
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seems you missed the big news
21 hours ago, by Shog9
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bluefeetFor many, many years users have asked and asked and asked for changes to the number of close votes and the number of reviews per day. There's been a little bit of skepticism as to the efficacy of such changes, but so far that's been mostly speculative. So... Let's test it! Current Problem: We'v...

uh, hum, double onebox
not sure if that's double bad or cancels each other out
 
One-box seption
 
Sam
@Ferrybig It's the time between a user submitting an action for a review item, to closey noticing the completed action.
@TylerH That's not network ping.
 
@gunr2171 And now if I link to that chat message...
 
3:23 PM
Audits merely annoy me a little anymore
I've gotten pretty good at spotting them, even without Tiny's script
 
@DavidG yeah, you can abuse it
 
@gunr2171 Interesting
That evaluation period means I have to press doubly hard to get 60 a day in now
No more slackalackin
 
@gunr2171 might be good question on the RO nominations...
 
Sam
@gunr2171 That's nothing.
 
@Sam bjb. explains all
 
Sam
3:25 PM
xD
Although, that train was by multiple people, so not exactly the same I guess.
 
[status-stappit]
 
@gunr2171 tavern. explains all
 
@Sam it's the same thing basically. How long it takes a signal to go from our computer to Closey's computer
 
@Sam With my resolution, I can't see the full one-boxes
 
well then stop viewing chat on a potato!
 
Sam
3:29 PM
@TylerH True
 
people have potatoes? I should be so lucky...
<-- living in post-famine Ireland
 
@TylerH oh, and happy Saint Patrick's day
 
@gunr2171 But my potato is called GLADoS, do you want to participate in science?
 
we've already got a bot overload here: closey
 
Sam
1.1V? That must suck.
 
3:33 PM
meh. Taters gonna tate.
and back to work
 
...enjoy
 
@gunr2171 Tanks. May the road rise to meet ya
(I'm not Irish btw)
 
@TylerH doesn't stop you from havin' a pint ;) cheers
 
3:45 PM
I don't see the image there. Is this okay? stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11664584
 
@Tunaki yes
 
Any way to turn the image into text?
 
@Tunaki Hmm,its a flow chart...
@Tuna Can you see this i.stack.imgur.com/73JbV.png ...
 
Could also be closed as dupe of the top related one
 
@Tunaki does removing an item from List.iterator also remove it from the list itself?
 
3:48 PM
@PetterFriberg Nope, blocked.
@TimCastelijns Yes. But you can't remove from Iterator. Only from ListIterator.
 
@PetterFriberg Urgh, recommending GIF in 2016...
 
@Tunaki what happens when I use Iterator.remove()? No warning or anything
 
@Tunaki www.jdd.it/stacktrace/Ow8RZ.png
 
3:51 PM
@Kyll How else would you get image animation?
 
@DavidG With a freaking mp4 or ogg file
"Animated image" is video, get over it and ban the GIF format >.>
 
@Kyll For a simple animated image? Way too heavy for my liking
 
@TimCastelijns Scratch that, I'm saying non-sense. You can remove with Iterator: docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/… The list must support the remove operation though.
 
@DavidG GIF is waaaaay heavier and slower than most video formats
 
@Tunaki yeah it's a 'regular' ArrayList. Thanks for answering
 
3:52 PM
@Kyll Not sure what videos you are watching!
 
^ Could be too broad too.
 
@DavidG Just search for "why GIF suck" on your search engine of choice
 
@Kyll I'm pretty sure if I search for "why X sucks" that I could use any value for X and I would get hits!
 
@DavidG True enough. The GIF format was a joke from the 80s that somehow caught up. Its colours are limited, its compression is 30 years old and bad
 
bit of a sketchy comment train on this (perhaps not so great) answer: stackoverflow.com/a/36065468/424903 .
 
4:00 PM
@DavidG There's even a CommitStrip about it!
 
@DavidG it depends on how many frames are used and if transparency is required. No transparency will use up less kb
 
@BhargavRao yes
 
Flagged
 
@Tunaki Why? can't see the reason... seems like he wants to answer...
 
4:05 PM
@BhargavRao Not sure
 
@PetterFriberg The OP is asking if his method is correct --> it's a question
 
Title ="test if inputted number is a triangular number" and his method is called isTriangularNumber
 
@BhargavRao That is so going to your declined count
 
It has 1 delete vote already :/
@Kyll It is a question.
 
@Tunaki hmm, it is like "Try this..." normally can be edit away.... but ok atleast I know why you think it is not...
 
4:06 PM
They are asking if the code is good or not.
 
@BhargavRao Well, it shouldn't. it answered the question, only asking if his answer had any performance issue which you can edit out
 
@Gimby that is bad because Brad stepped in
 
@BhargavRao ... It shouldn't have been deleted. It was original content. What is up with you guys? Edit the question away!
 
@Kyll post gone...
 
I was literally doing that before SO barfed on me with a red "THIS IS DELETED GO AWAY" warning
 
4:08 PM
20k+ Should we undelete this? stackoverflow.com/a/36065606/4099593
 
I agree with Kyll, some inconsistency in judgment...
 
@BhargavRao yes
 
Just edit the first line to "The following might be a bit slow:" and it's fine
 
Plop!
 
Plop!
 
4:09 PM
hugs @Kyll
 
@Kyll Done :)
 
Plus, no need to use delete votes on that. It'd have gone at some point and didn't do any harm... And an edit would have disputed NAA flags (instead of them getting a decline in review)
Thanks guys
 
Could you remove your comment there BR?
 
@Kyll True, I feel that I misused the system
@Tunaki Done
I'll go out, have a drink and come back :)
 
I'm inflicting a penalty of 2 waffles on you =p
 
we've maple syrup for that ^
 
@BhargavRao close Q
 
afk Going out as said above
 
@BhargavRao Have fun :D
@Tunaki Also commented
 
4:28 PM
@Tunaki - I've seen a few comments like "This post is abusive and this comment kills the grace period." left on spam or offensive posts and I'm genuinely curious as to their purpose. What are these for?
 
@BradLarson We've seen a few (rare) cases where troll or garbage was edited into shape
And since this isn't effective or even planned... The only way to prevent spammers from abusing the grace period is a comment
 
Really? I don't think I've ever observed this happening on true spam or trolling, and I've seen tens of thousands of these.
 
I have yet to see a case where a troll post was edited to look like an actual answer, however. — Martijn Pieters ♦ Oct 5 '15 at 8:30
 
@BradLarson It's extremely rare, I think I've only seen one or two. Still, it happens so better safe than sorry
Also it makes flagging spam or garbage slightly less boring
 
@BradLarson is there an argument to not do that?
 
4:31 PM
I have a bit more aggressive auto-comment I leave about voting to close spam since this is not effective or even planned neither
 
It may simplify the audits!, if not removed...
 
It's your time, but my take is that it's probably useless. I'd just flag these and be done with it.
 
I didn't feel like it was doing any harm since those posts are just spam / garbage
 
But it doesn't cause any harm, right? I.e. not even frowned upon?
besides, these get deleted anyway, and the deleted post itself is much more bothering than the odd comment, I'd think
 
No, unlike editing spam which can interfere with searches and audits. I was just curious why we were seeing this all of a sudden on spam posts. No one else had done this before.
 
4:35 PM
Awesome, thanks for the feedback:)
I've seen Tunaki leave "plop plop" comments or something for a while, this clearly legible version is new to me too;)
 
Note: it also informs others user that post probably spam (they should not close vote) but flag it... in good and in bad...
 
@BradLarson Read up from here. Original post: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/20584 - Edited: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/20585 or stackoverflow.com/a/35841099 if it still exists
 
@BradLarson Hello! :)
 
I think MsYvette flagged before the edit, so if flags interrupted the grace period (as they logically should since any reaction to a post is supposed to do that), the above wouldn't have happened
 
Ian
@Kyll I cannot see anything wrong in stackoverflow.com/posts/35841099/revisions what happen?
 
4:37 PM
Yes Kyll explained why I left comment like those. Should I stop?
 
@Ian Grace period
 
@Ian that's the point
 
@Tunaki I think you don't have to stop
 
Ian
@AndrasDeak ah.. I get it, I get it... O.o
 
@Ian I think the edit happened after MsYvette flagged the post, so if meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/307402/… was effective everyone could see it in the revisions
 
4:39 PM
@Tunaki He was mostly worried you where loosing your valuable time... I guess he don't know that you have an auto comment...
 
@PetterFriberg Still, three clicks to post the comment multiplied by the amount of stuff Tuna flags is quite some amount of time
 
@Kyll Huh, that's a first. I honestly had never seen that happen before. If it does occur, it's incredibly rare. Still don't think it's worth the effort for how infrequent this is. Kind of like everyone taking off their shoes at the airport because one idiot tried something.
 
However, I'm a bit skeptical to leave them on delete posts, they actually makes the auditing in review que fairly simple.
 
@BradLarson Same here, it was the only time I ever saw it.
@PetterFriberg Audits are not meant to be hard. The server even tells your computer that the review is an audit in the XHR response, so...
 
I like how Brad dismantles in one sentence this whole war on terrorism thingy...
 
4:43 PM
I don't have a link but I've also seen a case where a gibberish post was edited multiple times into even more gibberish, making the flags disputed.
 
m2 and to tell the truth I prefer to take of my shoes... rather then blow up in mid air...
 
@rene :D
 
And back
 
@rene That's easy on SO. Let's watch him try to dismantle the war on NAA!
 
JAL
just got out of a meeting about our scrum process. Nothing like a bunch of engineers arguing about agile
hi Brad!
 
4:44 PM
Oh, Brad is here!!! jumps around :)
 
@BradLarson I never take my shoes off, 6 flights this year so far!
 
Welcome back JAL and Bhargav
 
JAL
plop kyll
 
@JAL I hope that was a retrospective ...
 
Happened to me too!. There was a post "test test test", so I flagged. The post was edited to a perfect answer.
My ONLY declined spam flag. (Context starts from chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/6?m=26589483#26589483)
 
JAL
4:47 PM
@rene No our retro was yesterday, this was a dev-only meeting where the other engineers complained about how granular or board was with stories and sub-tasks
 
@DavidG Got it. Next?!
 
@JAL having that meeting is an agile fail ... no one realizing that is something to worry about...
 
@Mogsdad If I find another one, are you going to go all Liam Neeson/Taken on me?
 
JAL
@rene I agree. It's because our devs are stubborn and don't like the process. We're having a followup with the rest of the team tomorrow.
 
@DavidG Ooooh. If it involves racing motorbikes through crowded buildings, I'm in!
 
JAL
4:49 PM
I feel like I'm the only dev who can accept agile. Like what's the big deal? Just do your work and move your card on the board
 
@JAL yes, that
 
@rene Do we have green light or red light on leaving comments on abusive and spam post (don't dare to push direct question to Brad)
 
JAL
some devs hate agile, but they forget that it was a process created by engineers
 
@DavidG I had it fixed in about 2 minutes. Then kept refactoring to finally find the single line fix. Oh, and I had a Saint Paddy's lunch. So, total billable... let's say 5 hours.
 
JAL
lol
 
4:51 PM
@Mogsdad Any reason I have 2 magic wand icons?
 
@DavidG Two scripts? (different source locations)
 
@PetterFriberg I haven't seen a no, so I would continue. If it hurts we will get a warning. So far I have only seen that it is a possible waste of our time
 
It also gives names for trolls.
 
ok thanks, I think its good because other user understand how to handle them...
 
@Mogsdad Ah yes, still had S.E.E.T. running
 
4:53 PM
@JAL I assume the devs do create the tasks and subtasks?
 
@Mogsdad But yeah, almost perfect!
 
JAL
@rene Yes, but our problem is tasking. Our sprint planner takes hours. We review a story, discuss AC, point as a team, and write AC. The problem is devs write the dev subtasks, QA writes their testing subtasks, and design writes there subtasks. People are just sitting around while other team members write subtasks when we should be tasking as a team
 
@DavidG There's that "almost" word, again! What do you have? (And thanks, btw, this is a great help!)
 
Very clearly, yes.
 
4:56 PM
@BhargavRao Yep, it's a comment
 
Flagged and Commented
 
@JAL You need to do a Sprint Planing I and Sprint Planning II. In I you do the sprint backlog with points as team when that is all done you head over to Sprint Planning II where you do the subtasks per discipline and fill the board. Easy.
 
JAL
@rene hmm, I like that. You should write a book. Or better yet move to NY so we can hire you :)
 
@Mogsdad OK, but only because I'm going to be ULTRA picky! It does work brilliantly, but the text selection start point doesn't change imgur.com/CiNsywl
 

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