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5:00 PM
+1 for manually drawn circles
 
sd remove Jond
 
Good one Jon
 
hmm, on the fence if this is on-topic: Eclipse crashes then the process cant be ended . Eclipse is an IDE and thus not off-topic by definition, but this seems to be more generic Windows task management stuff.
 
Yeah I am not sure. i am not going to vote one way or the other
 
When you try to help and OP is irrespectful. Wow. I will never understand this.
 
5:14 PM
Well you have to help them as they want to be helped of course ;)
 
Of course...
...then I'm doomed. ;)
 
why setText method is not working on JTextField I believe that this question needs an MCVE, but I'll happily admit if I'm wrong. Thoughts?
 
@EricD. Most of the times that is when I down vote(assuming it is down voteable), vote to close(assuming it is closeable) and walk away
Looks like it needs an mcve to me
 
@NathanOliver: thanks for your input. I don't know why these things frustrate me, but they do.
 
@NathanOliver Yeah I'm used to those too. The perpetrator I got today surprised me: not a help vampire, just a vampire. Almost doesn't want help, actually, just wants to bite. ;)
 
5:19 PM
ouch
@HovercraftFullOfEels I understand.
 
Plop!
 
Hiya
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Thanks for the heads-up on Undo's point, sorry for being wrong a few days ago then =p
 
@Gimby: yep, hard to say based on the code and data presented so far.
 
5:36 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels well added the link as a comment as moral support for your valiant attempt to not become the villain in that scenario ;)
 
@Gimby: Thanks!
 
Yay \o/ Hot Meta. Only to be status-declined by Shog when he has the time... :D
 
Is there some guidance somewhere on when you should vote to delete an answer? I found it for questions, but not answers.
 
5:51 PM
Good evening \o
 
@toskv o/
afk
 
hi o/
 
@AlexanderO'Mara We haven't provided any guidance for this in past, and I'm not sure we need anything official. Generally, NAA & VLQ answers should get flagged and will be removed automatically through review, SPAM & Abuse should be flagged and will be removed automatically through review or by notified mods. That leaves technically incorrect answers, which should not get flagged; they can be downvoted & delete-voted by users.
 
@Mogsdad I just found what I was looking for here: stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/trusted-user
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Yes - that covers the guidance to users about what you can do.
 
6:02 PM
@honk This whole post is such a wreckage
 
@Kyll I consider your reply as an upvote on my request :)
 
@AlexanderO'Mara However, I'd amend that to conserve delete votes for stuff we can't get mod or systematic help with.
 
@Mogsdad Yeah, I was just trying to figure out if there was some reason to vote to delete this: stackoverflow.com/a/35982227/3155639 (No voting please)
Next up: "Community♦ is a stupid guy"
 
My guess: you got downvoted because you answered after the FGITW race. The dumber the question, the faster you need to answer. That question is one of the things wrong with the rep system.
 
@Mogsdad It's not the downvote I found all that surprising though, it's the delete vote (which you can't see because it's no longer negative scoring).
 
6:12 PM
Brad attracts all trolls, That shows how good a mod he is
 
yes. that's one of the "thank you" non-answers.
 
I had this NAA declined. Would someone like to convince me it's an answer?
 
@Mogsdad I had the same for this answer as well.
 
@Mogsdad the answer is hidden in the text: "I [...] have come to the conclusion that, at least at this point in time, there are no known methods that will allow you to [...]"
 
Let me find the meta link for you
 
6:32 PM
For me it's a low quality answer - but it's an answer.
 
Just buried in a rant.
Ok
 
Yes.
 
Crap wait wrong link
Ok I lied, maybe the meta was deleted.
Sorry!
 
:29331170 flagging as NAA. bad link
 
6:41 PM
Should we merge with ? They seem to be both used for a review system
 
@Ferrybig I think that should be a meta Q. has no guidance.
 
I am 99.99% that this is spam stackoverflow.com/a/35995451/4099593
Is it?
 
@BhargavRao Yes it is. I reported it
afk
 
I had the report in my text area :P
Laterz o/
 
If the post doesn't answer the question and references to a totally off-topic page, its usually spam
 
6:52 PM
Heh, 3 NAAs delvd before I could flag :D
 
@NathanOliver See similar meta posts here, here, and here. The last is interesting - a mod operation by Jon, it seems.
 
@BhargavRao I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
!!/test MULTIPLE GOOGLE SPREADSHEET CELLS WITH IMPORTXML FUNCTION DON'T REFRESH AUTOMATICALLY
 
> All-caps body
----------
Post - All in caps
 
7:01 PM
Bhargav Rao passed an audit!
 
Yay \o/
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[close] [turtle]"
 
Bhargav Rao passed a audit!
 
I guess they add a audit based on speed of reviewing :/
 
@BhargavRao You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 7 seconds, averaging to a review every 18 seconds.
 
Wow
Bug fixed
 
7:17 PM
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
If anybody free and want to help save some precious mod time [review-pls] pending since 2 days stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11605043
 
Sam
@Closey I've noticed you've started working! I'll sit here and wait for you to break again.
 
@Sam Sorry, I don't understand that. Maybe you meant add [user id] to [group name].
 
7:35 PM
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at SOCVRDotNet.User.ScrapeData () <0x40ff46f0 + 0x001a7> in <filename unknown>:0
 
> I'll sit here and wait for you to break again.
 
lol
 
Ba Dum Tss
 
@Signal too broad + opinion based :)
 
7:39 PM
Way too broad
 
:)
 
Sam
@Clo status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 3a1251b8 on master, running for 1 day, 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 14 seconds (tracking latency 2031ms).
 
7:42 PM
@BhargavRao I'd stick with NAA. It looks like the "new question posted as answer" type.
 
@Closey stop bot
 
@gunr2171 I'm shutting down...
Goodbye! (nagato v2 docker)
Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version b7a0483c on master, running for 21 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
 
ok, all updated
 
7:49 PM
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
(sorry, rebooted the bot)
 
Ah, no bug report then!
 
Sam
Waffles
Read that wrong, derp
 
am I correct in saying that this is NAA? Was initially going to say 'you need to provide more information' but the question asks how to convert, not why it's happening. At best, it's a partial answer, at worst, it's a comment.
 
deleted answer?
 
7:52 PM
@cybermonkey screenshot for <10k?
 
scrub that. OP of answer deleted the answer and moved it to a comment instead.
 
Wow, 4 garbage NAA answers over here before I protected it: stackoverflow.com/questions/9272391/…
 
@Signal That should probably be protected by a high rep user. Since it's gotten 3 non-answers.
 
@Signal No need to report NAA here; but if you see Spam, please do report it.
 
7:54 PM
Is this NAA?
 
@SmokeDetector I wonder if that was the same user doing all of that. Seems weird to have so many people in such a short amount of time.
 
@Mogsdad What if there's probably sock-puppet NAA flooding?
 
@WaiHaLee yeah, needs to be removed. I'd normally say 'no' because it's accepted, but however it's OP-accepted
 
@WaiHaLee We can edit the users comment into the answer to make it one.
 
Looks like somebody has put out a Facebook app that spams.
 
7:56 PM
damn you @ryanyuyu, beat me to it
 
ahaha
Is it worth comment flagging some obsolete comments?
 
meh.
 
@Mogsdad or it could be a problem with Facebook's servers right now and that question is the first thing that comes up when you search for its title (meaning that those all could be different people having the same problem)
 
@NathanOliver aha! I didn't read the comments of the question and couldn't fathom why it was accepted.
 
But why all the different accounts? (nmd - all new)
 
7:57 PM
@NathanOliver that's about what I figured.
 
@Mogsdad I thought the solution wold be to spam a question asking why they were banned.
 
afk
 
sure enough, a google search reveals that there's currently some issue with Facebook that's causing the issue
 
This is the quintessential example of protecting a question.
 
So, not sock puppets?
 
8:01 PM
back
 
probably not. I wonder if the mods got an alert from 3 NAAs on the same question that is now protected.
 
Why do punny comments like this one tend to have a better score than the post itself... =( I hate you @BhargavRao You're too punny!
2
 
@ryanyuyu I think Community automatically protects the question if there are a significant number of 'helpful' NAA flags on its answers
@AlexanderO'Mara probably not, no
 
@Tunaki Same with kayess's comment on my post meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/318781/…
 
8:04 PM
Still, I hate you.
Do you teach a course about "Punny comments on Meta"?
 
@Tunaki Ok, same to you. turns back to Tunaki
 
3 hours introduction: How to get comment upvotes on Meta.
 
I've got a hell a lot of comments with upvotes on meta
 
lol
 
@Tunaki step 1: be funny (this takes 2.75 of the 3 hours to overanalyze)
 
8:06 PM
Hey Look @rene is here ...
Hi o/
 
:29333462 Give that man a cookie for the effort of his "letter"
 
There is a dupe of that actually.
 
just wrote this comment on that question. if we get any more of these answers (I know the question's protected now, but still, it's possible) I propose that some moderator adds the comment (or a version of it) as a moderator message shown on the question.
 
This is not an answer, Please post it as a comment. Flagging this along with the others. — Bhargav Rao 9 secs ago
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW There will not be such post soon and I'll ask you and others to refrain from posting such defense for the room (and I think that should also apply to comments, so if you can hold back, please do).
 
8:12 PM
oh, didn't see @BhargavRao's edit
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Yes, that is the consequence of posting on meta, you'll be an easy target and I must admit I think Hans has a point. Maybe not as blunt as he puts it but still.
 
@BhargavRao Yeah, preemptive question protection applied.
 
yeah, just another version of the 'omg i have erroz, halp me'
Version of my comment that can be easily copied & pasted: For those who have just come here from Googling this error: **Stack Overflow is a programming website, we are not Facebook's forum. If you have concerns about this issue, please ask it over on the [Facebook Help Community](https://www.facebook.com/help/community) instead.**. I have a feeling we'll be seeing more of these posts tonight...
2
 
8:20 PM
Flag for offensive prof pic? stackoverflow.com/users/3469552/cjbrog
 
Late to the party
 
Sam
lol
 
@BhargavRao what the
 
Wait no, it was another Q
 
@Tunaki True. But I dunno what to write in the mod flag. :/
 
8:23 PM
@BhargavRao I raised a mod flag earlier, and it was marked helpful, so they presumably know about this. Flag body: Apparently, there is something up with a Facebook app, and lots of questions are being bombarded. See chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29333318#29333318 Not sure if there are others that need protecting, but this one needs cleaning.
 
anybody have the link to stop using NAA for just low quality link included answers?
 
@ryanyuyu I was telling about this user stackoverflow.com/users/3469552/cjbrog
 
@BhargavRao ah. That's... I didn't need to see that.
 
We need a 'migrate to facebook' button
Feel free to ping me with these and we can get 'em closed / deleted fast.
 
Undo lots lots, Your ear will get destroyed by the pings
 
8:27 PM
oh, just noticed Undo hammered it already, that was quick
 
wow, that Facebook Help Community thing is really getting hammered.
Yeah, guess there's no reason to keep these around
 
Later guys
 
@BhargavRao You are allowed to use pictures of celebrities as your profile picture
 
@honk But you are not allowed to juxtapose pictures of pigs on them. That's plain offensive
 
bye
 
8:31 PM
@BhargavRao Hm, looked natural to me...
@ryanyuyu o/
 
@BhargavRao thats not a pig?
 
@honk ... my mistake. I meant to say that to NathanOliver... I'll be here for another hour or so.
 
I know you guys don't like him, but still..
 
@ryanyuyu I thought so. But I couldn't resist ;)
 
Undo undoed it?
 
8:33 PM
throws hands in air I didn't touch it.
I'm busy refreshing my 'facebook' search
 
Then must be the other puppy in that corner
 
@honk I know right? Stamping out ambiguity is a programmer's job after all.
 
NATO Abandoned.
(10 flags left, but still)
Tis time for me to sleep, Bye all o/
 
@BhargavRao Great answer from @Bart Yes, I do accuse moderators of common sense here
 
@BhargavRao ALERT ALERT, we need back-up on NATO strikes!
@BhargavRao Night!
 
8:45 PM
Bye o/
 
@BhargavRao o/
 
8:56 PM
@Undo I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
9:13 PM
@Jon @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I answered both of your questions. Thanks for asking :)
 
@tuna can you post link to nominations... I`m on in Sardegna no wifii only mob phone so I have no favorites
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed a audit!
 
@rene Are you filtering on ?
 
9:23 PM
@Tunaki I am
 
I believe there are still a few in there.
 
@Tunaki not sure about that ....
 
Maybe you already voted on them then.
 
@Tunaki I have a load error, so no close or turtle for me
 
9:35 PM
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 15 minutes, averaging to a review every 22 seconds.
 
fine closey, thanks for letting me know
 
@rene worked that time?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Could you perform some Android magic on this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/33388463/… It sounds like a duplicate question but I can't find one (context: ).
 
@gunr2171 yes
 
woot
 
9:38 PM
Ok, I'm out for the night, back tomorrow, have fun all
 
Good night!
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
9:53 PM
@Sam Closey didn't pick up that audit: stackoverflow.com/review/close/11629499
 
Sam
@Tunaki The post is deleted.
And thus not detected.
 
But my audit stats... =( Okay I get it.
 
@PetterFriberg I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 14 minutes and 11 seconds, averaging to a review every 21 seconds.
 
And an audit Closey, I assure you... :D
 
Sam
Actually
I think we can account for that.
 
9:59 PM
I'm out, cya!
 
Sam
Cya!
 
Hmm reviewing on my cell phone was not a great idea... I guess its better to turn on the tv and get some sleep...
 
@Sam Yay \o/
By rep-whoring Closey into having 10k?
 
Sam
Nope
Another way
Magic
 
Of course.
 
user3956566
10:05 PM
@Tunaki I think it's unclear. I'm out of votes though.
 
Ha. What makes it unclear?
 
user3956566
@Kyll nothing to be sorry for, we were under the impression that was how to do it :D
 
user3956566
> Is there anyone knowing how I can handle the code when apps closed by swiping away?
 
user3956566
I'm not sure what the OP is asking
 
I understood it as "Trigger a callback when the user is swiping away the app on his phone"
But I don't know. Will leave it be for now.
 
user3956566
10:10 PM
@Tunaki it's also too broad, the OP is asking how to manage the app life cycle and save the db before it finishes. It's a design issue, however there are similar questions on the site, I will dig one up.. I'm just waking up. :D
 
I wouldn't want you to miss your morning coffee :D
 
user3956566
@rene yes sure. You're the definitive yes/no on that. We didn't do it, I was clear and asking for the room consensus. Also I did stop it as you will see later in the thread. I wouldn't post anything like that without your permission. And I'm not commenting in the room's defense on meta any more.
 
user3956566
@rene I actually agree with him, re flagging posts. It was a matter of seeing a different point of view. I am also interested in his other views. If we can get past the attitude of bluntness, that can be affronting, I think he may have some good points.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki thanks will read.
 
user3956566
sorry about the noise, I had quite a few pings
 
10:15 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW This is ping. Can you answer? I mean now please.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki yes my dear :D
 
.......^------- Oh look, a ping
sd remove on it
 
@Tunaki it's rather horrible though :P
 
It is so unclear.
 
I think he just wants to extract some random string between ****start**** and end?
 
10:27 PM
I'll let you answer then :D
 
@Tunaki that'll be my first C# answer, even though I know naught about it :D
 
user3956566
@Tunaki @Mogsdad nice answers on the room nom.
 
user3956566
@Adriaan it would be a dupicate
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW undoubtedly. Is there anything left in the java/c#/android/c++ tags that's not a duplicate?
even in MATLAB we're facing that problem
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Thanks dear :) (btw, I'm waiting for you?)
 
user3956566
10:31 PM
@Adriaan plenty
 
user3956566
@Tunaki I answered your question
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW No no, the invitation
 
user3956566
@Tunaki oh yes ok
 
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Sam
meh
 
10:38 PM
Yay Closey crashed :D
 
poor Closey :(
 
Sam
@Tunaki Nope
Just a websocket error
Happens all the time
 
For all intents and purposes, this is a stacktrace.
 
Filename unknown? What kind of a stack trace is that?
 
Rob
One compiled as release
and/or missing pdb files
 
10:43 PM
And since this is a stacktrace, it means there was a crash. An unhandled exception.
 
finally I understand what that grace period is all about
 
Rob
@Tunaki Which grace period are you referring to?
 
I assume a comment makes your edit show up even before 5 minutes?
 
@Rob 5 minutes delay during when a post can be edited without being in its history.
 
Sadly, I'm out of close votes, so...
 
Rob
10:46 PM
Posting an answer gets rid of that?
Never knew that..
 
@Rob A comment.
 
@Rob That strips all info about filenames? Huh, never knew that.
 
Waffle.
 
pp_
both are gone
 
@Rob When you add a comment, this grace period of 5 minutes is terminated and any edit will show up in the history.
 
pp_
10:48 PM
Doesn't someone has to do the sd gone thing now?
 
2 minutes has elapsed. No need to bother.
 
Rob
@Tunaki Hmm.. good to know. I thought it was always ~5min
 
It has happened that clear spam was posted and then edited to be somewhat okay.
 
pp_
Does editing kill the flags?
 
@pp_ It does not. So if it happens inside the grace period, there's no history backing up that it was once pure spam / offensive.
 
10:52 PM
@cricket_007 I actually think it's spam/offensive. Complete, utter bullcrap
it's not a question, or at least self-answered already, unrelated to programming
 
@cricket_007 Lol yeah it's a troll.
 
I can't see a flag for this...
 
Close and delete.
 
@Tunaki I saw that after he added Java, C and C++ as tags...
 
@Tunaki postgone;)
 
10:54 PM
And it's ChrisF'd.
 
Can someone check out my answer and make sure it doesn't look like self promotion?
 
@DavidG does your contribution do what you're writing in points 1. and 2.?
 
Rob
@DavidG Looks fine to me
 
@AndrasDeak Yes, and a little bit more as the code is using some old style C# so I've updated bits of it.
 
without understanding the problem your answer comes across to me like this: "1. This is the answer: <answer> 2. if you're lazy to do it, I've already done so, and you can use it for free if you'd like"
 
11:01 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much it :)
 
then I wouldn't worry about it:)
 
Just making sure, better safe than sorry. Don't want to end up on meta :)
 
and anyway, self-promotion is only a problem if it's uncalled-for
@DavidG ending up on meta is only wrong if you did something questionable
I don't think this is even remotely problematic
 
I didn't think so either
But the peril of spending so much time in SOCVR is seeing the problems in everything posted to SO!
 
As I see it, problems come in forms like "use my proprietary product", "whatever you're asking, use my free product", "use this product that I'm totally not the developer of", etc
 
11:07 PM
@DavidG No problem at all with your answer. Well, it is C#, that is kinda a problem. I mean, C#, right?
 
@Tunaki C# is like a supercharged Java right?
 
Yes, non-sense supercharged
Okay. Time to sleep.
Cya o/
 
Night @Tuna
 
night
 
Evening gents
 
11:11 PM
hi
 
hello
 
what about the ladies?
 
Sam
Hiya
 
yo
 
Evening gents and esteemed ladies.
@AndrasDeak How careless of me. I apologize.
 
11:13 PM
what about the bots?
:P
 
@gunr2171 Don't need no coffee at this time of day.
 
@LinusKleen So the gents aren't esteemed?
 
I generally assume this of the opposite gender and will accept it as given once proven for the gents. Or not. To change the topic: I dropped in because of some quite strange posts I found in the review queue. Someone removing snippets of "down vote favorite" from posts.
Wanted to know if anyone could shed some light on that.
 
Link?
 
11:17 PM
@LinusKleen Usually evidence of cut & paste from other answers.
 
A few of them.
That's what I thought. But they're all questions.
 
Copy-pasta from another question?
 
Definately form cut&paste
This one even has the post score prefixed.
 
Sometimes we see this when a user's question get's down-voted, and they copy-pasta to repost it, sometimes after the first is deleted, sometimes not.
 
This copied into this
 
11:20 PM
Alright. TBH I usually spot these C/P artifacts on scraper sites. Never on SO itself. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
First one was copied from this. (or the other way around)
Ah. Most likely from wordpress.stackexchange
So - good edits, as long as they are fixing all other issues.
 
wow, these look horrible
 
@Mogsdad Yeah. It's always the same (low-rep) user with these edits, but they're not exclusive to the "down vote favorite" removals.
 
So, does it look like there's someone trying to edit their way up in rep?
 
@Mogsdad Kinda
 
11:26 PM
If they are making good edits, that's absolutely great. Approve or improve, and everybody wins.
 
As I said, they're not exclusively removals but some sort-of-essential (typos, formatting, spelling) edits along the way.
 
maybe the editor realized that these are around, and started searching for them
 
Well, handle each post separately, of course. If you see one that can stand a lot of improvement, reject and edit it to show what it should look like.
 
though I assume some of these posts are flaggable
 
@AndrasDeak - Not flaggable for these questions, at least... users are copying their own SE posts, just sloppily.
 
11:28 PM
yeah, I meant such questions in general
 
@LinusKleen If someone makes LOTS of bad edits (say, dozens of tag-only edits), we typically try to get their attention and chat with them.
@AndrasDeak Ah - yes. If you look through the transcript, I got some tips from josliber last week about looking for plagiarized answers.
(You were here then, I think)
@LinusKleen Wow. Nothing for months, then 29 edit suggestions in half an hour.
 
@Mogsdad I guess it pays off to get comfortable with the search facilities.
 
Yep.
Example: I rejected & edited this one.
My standard MO: I first choose to "Improve" each suggested edit, and I click the MagicEdit wand. If I get significant results, I exit back to the review, and reject/edit it, and clean it up completely. If there are a few minor things (spelling & caps), I do a quick read to see that it's clear and understandable, then let it go with the improvement.
 
people with a commitment like yours are the reason I don't do reviews usually:P
@Mogsdad thanks, I don't remember, I might look it up
 
@Mogsdad Thanks for the link. I'll take it for a test ride.
 
11:41 PM
If any 10kers fancy a laugh... stackoverflow.com/questions/36000061/…
 
Rob
Lol
 
112k rep user, but no sense of humour :(
 

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