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user4639281
12:42 AM
I think I have an interesting idea, but it will require downloading the data dump, then running some serious queries. I might have an interesting way of predicting the quality of a post based on the language used in the post.
 
1:08 AM
"interesting way"?
 
user4639281
Very naive right now, but here's the basic idea....
 
user4639281
Scan all words found in all posts and assign them a weight for how often they appear. If the post is scored > 0 add to the weight, < 0 subtracts from the weight. This will eventually give you highly postive weighted words and highly negative weighted words. Then go through the post and add the word scores together, if the post has a negative score then the bot posts a message.
 
user4639281
Any words that are common between good and bad posts should end up at a zero weight or close to it
 
user4639281
And possibly give more weight to words on highly upvoted or highly downvoted posts, but maybe not
 
user4639281
This might also be useful for finding high quality posts too...
 
1:16 AM
Sounds like how Pham works/worked
 
user4639281
Oh, well damn...
 
Granted, I have no idea how it worked
But it worked well, I think
 
user4639281
I'll have to ask sam when he gets back
 
user4639281
It would be interesting to run the initial query and see what words come out as highly positive or highly negative.
 
user4639281
I'll download the datadump tomorrow and start working on a script to come up with some word clouds.
 
user4639281
1:33 AM
Then I wonder if I should invert the score for upvoted closed questions. That should counter-act the off-topic but highly upvoted posts that are still sticking around.
 
user4639281
Or just exclude closed questions altogether and hope that any open off-topic questions don't skew the results
 
user4639281
2:42 AM
@TinyGiant I must have hallucinated a JavaScript tag in the question. Going to agree with your close vote then. — Maximillian Laumeister 24 mins ago
 
user4639281
You want to throw a dupe vote on that question?
 
@TinyGiant which question?
 
user4639281
From that comment I pinged you with
 
user4639281
Just thought you would laugh at the comment
 
there was a question a few weeks ago where someone posted a javascript answer for a css problem and phrased it like "you can do this in javascript so you dont have to go mucking around with css"
 
user4639281
2:46 AM
Lolzzzz
 
user4639281
You should drop that CSS and use jQuery
 
oh and they got pissed when they got downvoted for it
 
user4639281
Lol, I was looking through the tag wiki for something that said "If a question is tagged with css and no javascript tag, a css answer is expected" but I couldn't find it
 
user4639281
I guess it is assumed to be common sense
 
user4639281
^^^ Lolz
 
2:51 AM
Gentlemen, the final countdown to the death of is nigh
 
> This is the code
^ my favorite code right there
 
user4639281
Perfect code
 
user4639281
@durron597 she's getting empty
 
user4639281
@durron597 Lol
 
user4639281
2:55 AM
Why is it so hard to find questions that I want to answer instead of close?
 
user4639281
^^^ That code block is also wonderful code
 
I would say I find ones I want to answer maybe 1 in 10 or 1 in 15
I know Java is a high traffic tag but my best luck is when it's and another, smaller tag like or
 
user4639281
Well, I guess the webdev tags also attract a lot of bottom feeder OPs
 
user4639281
WhyMyCanHazCodezKweestyunNoWerkz
 
user4639281
@durron597 This makes me not want to learn objective c
 
3:04 AM
@TinyGiant That's why there's Swift now.
 
user4639281
I'm checking out scala
 
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because I can't imagine a more off topic question for a programming site. — durron597 10 secs ago
 
user4639281
@durron597 Is pie better or worse than !pie?
 
user4639281
That would be more off-topic
 
user4639281
But, arguable
 
user4639281
3:09 AM
because technically, pie > !pie === true
 
Tiny Giant: put the following into a javascript console:
[] + {}
{} + []
[] + {} === {} + []
 
user4639281
Yeah, because you can do funny things with javascript
 
hello everyone!
This is a great community, a greeting from Colombia
 
hola
 
user4639281
3:14 AM
@durron597 ?
 
@TinyGiant Roomba didn't nuke that one
one more day :(
 
user4639281
ahhh
 
que tal?
i am new in this community
 
asi asi
 
jejej
durron de donde es?
 
3:16 AM
I don't actually speak spanish, I just took some in high school and university
hablo espanol un poco
houston, tx
also i am too lazy to figure out how to type n with a tilde or accented vowels
 
ohh! I speak through google translator
jeje
the spanish is very difficult
compare with english
= i am bad speaking english
 
creo que ingles es mas dificil
 
user4639281
No se hablo espanol, solo hablo englais
 
user4639281
^^^ Probably wrong grammar
 
jejeje
casi perfecto - almost perfect
 
3:19 AM
do you have a keyboard that makes it easier to type n-tilde or accented vowels?
 
user4639281
I lived in Dallas TX for a couple years. Forgot everything I ever learned there.
 
Amigos, queria pedir un favor...debo de implementar el algoritmo de cartograma para aplicarlo en three.js, pero no entiendo el algoritmo..podrian ayudarme? -- Friends, I wanted to ask you a favor ... I need to implement cartogram algorithm to apply in Three.js, but do not understand the algoritmo..podrian help?
 
you forgot everything you ever learned during the time in dallas, or you forgot everything you ever learned before dallas when you were there?
 
user4639281
@durron597 Everything I learned in Dallas, I drank a lot.
 
wow. I actually understood that.
 
3:21 AM
yes, even I have a special button to the "ñ"
seriously you understand?
 
user4639281
@user5115790 The answer to your question is not sufficient?
 
@durron597 can you help me?? I need to implement the logic in my polygons that have in Three.js
 
well, cartograma is that "map drawing" or "map navigating"?
 
What is wrong with the answer you got on the main site?
 
user4639281
3:26 AM
@durron597 Possibly because its written in some form of C
 
@durron597 you can help to implement the algorithm in Three.js? at least the logic ..
 
Why can't you just use that script on the link you sent?
 
I depend on it to stay in the company where I am working, I am currently doing the practice in that company
@durron597 I tried but I do not understand the algorithm .. I do the same thing in Three.js, and I mounted my own map and other features.
 
Is your problem that you don't understand the algorithm or that you don't know how to implement it?
 
the two
jejeejje
 
3:29 AM
I'm really tired and have to go to sleep soon. It's pretty late in Colombia too, no?
 
but if I get the logic of the algorithm, so I can try to implement it in Three.js, I need to understand.
yes..
 
I recommend asking again tomorrow in The Whiteboard during daytime in USA
 
@durron597 I understand that this tired, and indeed I am, and I'm locked .. I could not go, but I want to keep my job seriously, as it can help me?
 
I think if you want help tonight, this is not the room to get it in. You might try the Javascript room but read this first:
 
not think I'm shameless, or want you to do me the cosas..puedo show everything I've done, I researched a lot, but I'm bad for math, then I do not understand the logic algoritmo..necesito to follow this depends followed in my company ... much trust in me and you succeed ..
@durron597
Friend, can you help me when you can. It could be tomorrow ... when you can, but please do not let me die
 
user4639281
3:35 AM
@user5115790 Honestly this is probably the worst room that you could ask a programming question in... for reasons I won't mention right now. Your best bet would be the javascript room
 
@user5115790 está siendo melodramática
@TinyGiant this is truth.
 
maybe, but I feel it was not a bad idea, because here the friend knows about cartogram and I need to understand the algorithm to implement it
 
I understood your spanish, I don't understand the algorithm
and I am too tired to learn it tonight.
 
@durron597 I am not melodramatic, maybe, but not as you think, is something like the difference of cultures, tend to return a whole drama but in a good sense of humor XD
 
estoy muy cansado
 
3:38 AM
ahhh
yo entendí que entendias el algoritmo
 
@user5115790 tal vez
 
@durron597 podrias ayudarme mañana?
a la hora que me digas
 
pregunte en la mañana en The Whiteboard
no aqui
no one is there now
 
@durron597 something tells me that you are very intelligent and could help me ... sounds crazy and illogical but I have that feeling
 
durante del dia
si pero estoy consado y la mayoria el tiempo ocupado
 
3:43 AM
@durron597 ahh.. okay, thank you
 
no one is in the whiteboard now except me
durante del dia
 
ok..
 
Looks like the tag script failed again
Argh
 
user4639281
@durron597 Still no gold badge?
 
@TinyGiant nope
 
user4639281
3:55 AM
ouch
 
user4639281
Mine is still the same as well
 
user4639281
Have you seen this? Some interesting info there.
 
user4639281
Apparently I don't like answering questions tagged with or
 
user4639281
But I am considered a High Activity User
 
user4639281
I'm out for the night, have fun :)
 
8:25 AM
@SalvadorDali there are more questions that need community handling then there are members (or mods for that matter) that will do so. One way to reach out to more users at once quickly is to head for an appropriate chat room. Not all rooms are open for this kind of moderation but the SO Close Vote Reviewers room exists for that reason (and to get rid of the backlog in the CVQ) — rene 55 secs ago
 
9:15 AM
morning all
 
9:26 AM
morning
 
9:46 AM
Oh, I guess the serial downvoter realized a mistake was made and had another, better, attempt...
 
I had a voting reversed (4 votes), but just received two new serial down votes ... I would say +1 for the research ;)
 
10:47 AM
@Jon was deletion needed? That user now complains on meta, it is not very constructive I admit but still...
 
@rene yes - it was.
 
OK
 
shite question, pointless answers, lots of flags
 
anyway, I answered the meta question, ignoring all the comment noise
 
Nice answer :)
 
11:00 AM
tnx
this is enough meta drama for today I guess...
 
11:22 AM
Always plenty of "drama" to share :p
 
Maybe I should ask for a feature disable comments on this post or at least don't spam my inbox...
 
the discussion switched to my answer and several users are leaving comments now...
and I already moved on...
 
Welcome to SO and the "fun side"? :p
well - it got community deleted anyway
 
You can call SO everything you want but dead or boring aren't in that list...
 
11:36 AM
Heck... I'm still around and I'm a bit pinnickity where I "hang out" online :p
 
11:53 AM
good morning
 
good morning to you
 
Sam
Morning.
 
Does anyone know when the serial vote script runs? I think I ticked someone off as I got 3 down votes on good answers in about 4 seconds
 
@NathanOliver i dont think 3 is enough to trigger it. i had that happen a few months ago on my top 3 accepted answers and reported it to a mod and got a "couldnt verify" response.
though i had the same thing happen on UXSE and it got reversed
 
hmm. okay we shall see. it's only 6 rep so it's not to bad.
 
12:41 PM
@NathanOliver I had serial voting incident yesterday and I also seem to have picked up one again. This room is toxic I guess ....
 
@rene Maybe. I think mine might have been from
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Q: I know this is an audit and it is bad. What should I do?

NathanOliverI was going through the low quality post review queue and got this question. I am 99.99% certain that it is an audit as it is a question and the LQ queue no longer does questions. I right clicked on the question title and opened the question in a new tab to confirm my suspicions and sure enough...

that question wound up getting hammered
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@NathanOliver Body - Position 408-422: screenshot.net
 
@NathanOliver yeah, I had also some flack due to meta-posts
 
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@NathanOliver Body - Position 408-422: screenshot.net
 
12:53 PM
can I have close votes on that ^^^
 
of couse you can
should we fp link on the answer?
 
I already protected it but the answers coming in are from users with rep levels above what protected actually can protect
@NathanOliver not sure, is it fp?
 
Finally, I'm back!
 
idk
afk
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Feb 24 at 23:13, by Kevin Brown
in Ask a Super User Moderator on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 14 at 2:43, by DragonLord
Apowersoft (including screenshot.net and downloadavideo.net) seriously needs to be blacklisted.
I don't think fp is the correct action
 
1:06 PM
back
@rene looks good to me.
 
K
 
1:24 PM
@rene I don't think there is suposed to be a trailing - on the ignore command
 
@SmokeDetector Question is now closed
 
@NathanOliver it keeps smokey from echo-ing
 
ah. and here was me waiting to see the echo to know the command went through.
 
:)
 
2:24 PM
does it surprise anyone that the roomba missed one question with and some 1 rep user made a question with it today?
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Q: How can I let the java source code appear in maven's internal repository in eclipse after already downloading the artifact sources and javadocs?

userAfter building a maven internal repository and linking it to eclipse I was able to see the repository by going to Window -> Show View -> Other -> Maven -> Maven Repositories. The repositories appeared in eclipse but I can only see the .jar and .war files in them. The java source codes, js files, ...

 
Just imagine all of the legal tags we cleaned up a few months ago
 
@KevinBrown Oh, those definitely need constant attention.
 
But my request for the tags to be blown away is still pending, so they are getting new questions
 
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Q: Can I submit an app of quotes to the apps store?

Pixele9Can I submit an app that uses famous quotes of various authors to the apps store without any legal problem? I think that I just have to quote the author of the "quote", but is there any problem with Apple?

 
One of 5 questions :(
also can probably die
 
2:35 PM
I edited the second one
copy protection is on topic
as long as it's a technical question.
 
Honestly, the second one is pretty broad
 
can you look at the questions? I want a second opinion
@JonClements you around?
 
yup... but not for long...
 
@JonClements If we want to actually nuke the legal tags for good (not just close everything), these three questions need burned tags
I don't even know what you'd tag "what should every developer know about legal matters"
 
What are you asking exactly?
 
2:39 PM
@durron597 Those are related to Paypal's MPL thing, I think
 
@JonClements Can you burn the tags out of these three locked questions please
 
Or something non-license related
 
leave software distribution in the first one
leave sql in the second one
 
this question needs a new tag, all three are bad
 
and... use your judgement on the third, heh
 
2:41 PM
removed the legal tag on all
 
@JonClements Well, I suppose that's an improvement
@KevinBrown Did you say you had a meta post about this?
Not "this tag should not be [legal]", a separate one about finishing the burnination / blacklist
 
sorry - I'm nearing 40 hours without sleep... trying to help... etc
 
@JonClements go to bed!
thanks :)
 
just flag as other with a good reason and other mods can sort it if needs be
 
sleep well Jon, really I mean it, get some sleep....
 
2:45 PM
@JonClements can't flag historically locked posts
@rene I just dropped all my delete votes on these questions, could you do the same
 
@durron597 I have a pending mod flag
 
umm... thought you could flag anything locked - even historical
 
@JonClements nope. the only button is "share"
The idea is that people were flagging these off topic questions constantly and so they removed it to make people stop
 
@JonClements Definitely get some sleep :)
 
guess that's why a historical lock is last resort then
 
2:49 PM
@durron597 done
 
@JonClements indeed
@rene thanks
 
@KevinBrown can't see a pending flag?
 
@JonClements I would feel much better if you followed my advice
 
@JonClements Er, pending flag on the meta question
 
aww thanks guys
 
@KevinBrown until someone picks that up and checks it out, it'll probably remain pending for the time being I'm afraid
 
@JonClements Yeah, perfectly fine with it. I understand that it's not an easy task getting tags removed :)
 
@KevinBrown We have to actually nuke the tag and then have it come back to get blacklist, probably.
 
2:55 PM
As a community, especially here, you do a great job of cleaning up stuff - mods / staff can only really "intervene" or do stuff the community can't
 
@durron597 Per shog's suggestion (somewhere), I've got a pending flag for getting all of the tags nuked
Something about "the community shouldn't go editing 2,000 posts just to nuke a tag"
 
deleted
bbl
 
3:12 PM
paypal paypal - why are you such a bitch
 
@JonClements Elon Musk hates you, personally
 
that must have been a power nap ...
 
@JonClements He's trying to annoy you so you don't go to bed. Don't let him win!
 
3:19 PM
done done done
 
-2
Q: Which web frame works are free for commercial use?

Han Jo. JangI am really interested in web development business nowadays. As you guys know that there are lots of free web frameworks are avaliable. One thing I have heared from my friends that some of these frameworks are not free if people use them for commercial purpose(such as licence, legal issues). I...

 
also done
I won't have enough time for reviewing close votes today, so throw me more before I go if you want the rest of my cvs
 
@Unihedron Can't review now, eh?
 
I can do at most five.
 
3:25 PM
Complete!
 
@Unihedron hope you enjoyed that
 
\o/
 
3:49 PM
Bah, screw it, got woken by a client with a query, on the coffee now
 
user4639281
Hello
 
hey
@JonClements bummer
 
@JonClements Happy Coffee Day!
 
Sam
*int. coffee day
 
4:17 PM
@durron597 Musk only cofounded PayPal; he hasn't been involved with it for some time now
well "cofounded"
I think like less than a year into existence it merged with Musk's company at the time
but eBay bought it from them like 12 years ago
 
We need someone to blame, so Musk it is...
 
@TylerH Way to deflate the air out of my joke
Woo, I'm on my first top users list for a tag with more than 1000 questions
 
@JonClements Heh, 5500 upvotes isn't even close enough for top users. Pretty crazy
 
4:32 PM
I've done well enough as it were out of the Python tag, but heck, I'm nowhere near the top
 
@JonClements I just looked through some of your answers, found this ironic one
 
should I be worried you're looking through my answers? :p
 
@durron597 My best tag: stackoverflow.com/tags/shadow-dom/topusers But nowhere near 1000 questions
 
@TylerH
 
The only person beating me is the person who made Polymer
dependency injections
sounds nasty
 
4:35 PM
Which is kind of crazy that Spring has like 40 times more questions
I guess because Spring has all this extra crap like Spring Boot
I guess people like writing XML files.
 
I've never heard of guice but I've heard the hell out of spring
 
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Q: dependency injection framework Guice vs Spring

oshaiI am planning to use dependency injection framework. what should I choose? Guice or Spring? I will use java configuration both ways. also my application is pure java j2se, not web/j2ee application and I don't plan to use spring's rich capabilities. my main concern about guice is that it is much l...

 
CV'd
Phonetically I'm saying "Geese" but I suspect the creator wants it to be pronounced "juice"
 
@TylerH Yeah, it's Juice
 
...
lol
 
4:42 PM
@TylerH NINJAED
 
I would definitely see geese or "gice" before "juice"
 
I wonder if there's a good reason they didn't just call it Juice
 
@TylerH It was written internally by Google and released open source later.
 
user4639281
A soft g doesn't make any kind of sense there.
 
user4639281
4:57 PM
But, then you have the gif... pronounced jiff
 
I guess it does look like "GUI"
gooey-ce
 
user4639281
No, its Jewy
 
user4639281
lol
 
5:09 PM
this guy posted a spammy link in his original version, the updated answer uses a different link: stackoverflow.com/a/31861766/1652962
 
5:21 PM
OH GOD KILL IT
 
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@NathanOliver Body - Position 4-8: fuck
 
well that was my first rude/abusive flag in a while.
 
so, why do we allow unregistered users to answer?
 
user4639281
Something about gluttony and punishment
 
5:27 PM
I'd like to see the spam vs non-spam of unregistered users %
hum, it seems in 2011 you didn't need to have an account to answer or ask:
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Q: Encouraging users to create an account (and keep it)

NullUserException  อ_อI know SO's policy is "you don't have to register to ask questions," but there are so many new members and so many hit-and-runs... The majority of the questions I see now are coming from new users (i.e., it's their first question). Although unregistered users should still be able to ask questio...

that's when they changed it to registered for asking
@ProgramFOX, would it be wise to add users (like the last smoke detector entry) to the user blacklist, or should we keep that list more clean?
> Marks a reported post as true positive and adds the poster to the blacklist.
 
5:53 PM
@durron597 also the French nominal guy and gui
not pronounced with a hard g
 
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