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12:30 AM
@durron597 I'll admit, I was hesitant to throw a VLQ flag at it but figured one decline this week wouldn't be a killer
I was doing so well reviewing new answers on Blaze (might have hit a record for the most consecutive answers with text), and then I found one that was only code :\
 
 
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1:42 AM
@KevinBrown Boom
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1:59 AM
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2:15 AM
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3:04 AM
Goodnight, Moon.
 
 
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user4639281
5:32 AM
@durron597 garbage.
 
user4639281
Also, the UserScript I mentioned earlier won't work. The only way to find review tasks would be to search until you find them basically. That sounds fine and dandy, but what if there is no review task for the post in that queue? It would be a long time searching.
 
6:03 AM
@rene yeah but a bit lazy regular lately - but still doing my votes :P
I'm on today
 
6:47 AM
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Sam
9:19 AM
Morning all.
 
9:53 AM
Morning @Sam
 
10:39 AM
Should add a flamethrower animation when such questions get cved
 
as recommendation questions go, this one was fairly reasonable IMHO ... but certainly a recommendation question nevertheless
curious how all the previous close votes were for different reasons
 
@tripleee What do you want to know?
 
11:03 AM
@rene Oh, just idly commenting on @Kitler's cv
 
OK
 
firrreeeeeeee
-28
Q: is it possible to find an algorithm to calculate first in first out for account

Gautam ShettyIm developing a finance website in visual studio 2010 using C#. Please give me an algorithm for calculating first in first out in accounting problem. Will be waiting for ur reply. Thank you.. sorry guys please unhold it

have a laugh before it gets deleted :P
 
priceless: the edit: "sorry guys please unhold it"
 
hahahahah
 
comments purged ;(
and locked by a mod
 
11:17 AM
gordon to the rescue
 
the OP has some other questions which similarly reek of his genius
 
got 3 flags approved from that question only :D marshal here I come
 
I guess -30 and -10 should be enough for a Q-ban?
 
oh, his answer to somebody else's question was deleted as abusive already
 
I missed that...
@tripleee can you see if there are delete votes on this
nvm already got it ...
 
11:44 AM
@rene there is one, off-topic / typo
close, not delete
and I concur
 
got reopened, interesting
 
now it's got three close votes again
 
maybe they cv-ed for a better reason?
 
Good morning
 
Good morning, and welcome in my afternoon...
 
12:28 PM
Great title, too...
@durron597 I'll head you off today... 994 + 2 already today = 4 more upvotes to get that gold!
 
12:48 PM
@Mogsdad there is absolutely nothing more satisfying on SO than that gold badge
Then you will go everywhere saying "my precious...."
 
1:04 PM
this guy pissed off a lot of people
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Q: How do I check if a language is supported on Linux?

christian.partyHow do I check if a language such as Python, Java, C++, etc. is supported on Linux? I know the cmd: locale -a will give me the list of the languages installed but it only shows C. I know there is a command that will let me know if a language is supported but I'm not sure what it is...can someone ...

 
1:15 PM
that's spam
 
@gunr2171 And yet, it must also be true! "Blueberries: Studies feigning that diets luxurious in berries, and most specifically blueberries, greatly improves locomote skills and learning power. Research also. "
Why was this closed as SPAM? The poster provided info about their affiliation.
 
@Mogsdad It was not closed as spam, it was probably closed as VLQ.
@Mogsdad Awesome! Assuming the script runs, that is.
 
@durron597 well why wasnt the other answer flagged/removed as well? it just reads as a giant comment
 
@durron597 Maybe. I guess I'm going by the "definitely spam" comment, which may have been ignored by a mod.
 
@Mogsdad If it was deleted as spam, it would have the "this has been deleted as spam, you can see the revision history for details" notification.
 
1:27 PM
@cimmanon IF the first one was VLQ, then this one would have survived because it is a more complete answer.
 
actually, none of those answers really answer the question
@Mogsdad i am referring to the heavily downvoted one with millions of email addresses in it
 
@cimmanon Sure they do... The one getting all the downvotes today states it "Looks like you'll need a very long regexp"
IOW: No can do
@cimmanon Then again... there isn't a question in the question. Shall we kill it?
@cimmanon Could easily be reworded.
@cimmanon Better?
 
@Mogsdad now you're putting words in the guys mouth (you should follow some other dude's advice)
 
@Mogsdad I reject this edit as it is an attempt to reply.
@cimmanon ^^^ this.
 
Hmm. Ok, I can see why.
 
1:39 PM
the OP is requesting a regex, this dude's "answer" can be summed up as "you need a really long one". thats not really an answer or an attempt at an answer
 
@cimmanon I think we've covered this ground before (with me playing your part)... it's an answer. Maybe not a good answer, and tangential to the question, but technically, an answer.
 
@Mogsdad its not any more of an answer than "yes" is an answer to "is X possible?"
 
@cimmanon True! Both are answers. (NAA is a 0 or 1 decision, I'm learning.)
 
@cimmanon We have plenty of those answers sitting around
 
putting URGENT in the title is like putting "DOWNVOTE me to oblivion plz" in this site :) — sashoalm 10 mins ago
^^^ fpu- or ignore-?
 
1:52 PM
Already been ignored in the tavern
 
I wish we could see that in here. I am hardly ever in the tavern.
 
It's fine if two people handle a report
 
cool
 
@durron597 questions like that make me sad. why bother checking if the user exists? just insert them and check the error being raised by the database when a constraint violation happens >.>
double fail for not using a transaction, gogo race condition!
 
@cimmanon Constraint violations in the database? Surely you jest, there's no such thing as a database that has rules or unique values
 
1:59 PM
sigh
i worked on a 6 year old mysql database that had no foreign key constraints.
 
@cimmanon ... ouch.
 
I'm currently ripping data from an old MySQL database that has all nullable columns (except for the primary key), I'm guessing no foreign key constraints is probably just as bad (if not worse)
 
it was surprisingly not that bad.
this database had shitloads of not null columns that were filled with empty strings, though. kinda defeats the purpose of not null if you ask me
 
too many nullable columns probably means you have too few tables
 
and everyones favorite address1, city1, province1, address2, city2, province2 on all tables that have address information :p
 
2:06 PM
@durron597 they actually appeared to trust users to provide all of the required information (without checking or validating it)
And it was a surprise when not all users did
 
Did they at least keep out little bobby tables?
 
@NathanOliver they were using an alpha version of the Zend framework, so probably
 
@NathanOliver Just did some quick testing, looks like they did
 
2:15 PM
you cant just make up a question with no basis and answer it yourself... — castis 41 secs ago
 
@durron597 boom
 
Question was removed
 
good
 
Can I flag this? p.s. whoops wrong paste, it's correct now.
 
2:18 PM
It's an answer
 
@KevinBrown By moderator.
 
@durron597 No.
 
dat tags:
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Q: Sass - assign function return value to variable

Bogdan DanilaI'm having difficulties assigning a function's return value to a variable in Sass. Basically what I'm trying to do is to use a rem calculation function (like the one provided in the Foundation framework - rem-calc()) to calculate a pixel value into rem, and assign that to a variable: $font__si...

 
@cimmanon I guess the OP tried to add and as well...
 
2:27 PM
@Mogsdad Confirmed, I just added a markdown link to a flag and it worked.
 
@durron597 Just going to double-confirm that, I do it all the time (tags also work, useful for getting something )
 
I think it's just edit reasons where they don't work.
 
@durron597 My question had been whether the Mod saw the markdown. I've been using it in flags all along, and the show up in our flag history... I just hoped the mods weren't having to cut & paste some amazingly gnarly URLs I was using.
 
@Mogsdad That would be kinda nuts, rendering markdown on our side but not on theirs.
 
I had a conversation with someone in the Tavern about it, and that's where I got it confirmed
 
2:30 PM
@durron597 Oh yeah, and everything here makes sense. 8-S
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Feb 2 at 21:22, by Kevin Brown
I know I've seen the answer somewhere, but a quick search isn't coming up. Markdown isn't parsed in the custom mod flags, right?
(and the messages following)
 
snipe
 
Man, I really should just auto join the meta tavern every day
but honestly, with this room and two rooms on progammers... it's hard.
 
@KevinBrown Confirmed by a non-mod again. the topic isn't important enough to worry about.
@durron597 You mean difficult?
 
@Mogsdad No, I meant solid, sturdy, firm
@Mogsdad ...
 
2:33 PM
@durron597 rofl
@gunr2171 We should invite him here, he might actually like this.
@Kyll Boom
 
I think bobby has been in this room before, let me check
hum, guess not
 
@gunr2171 You know anything about WPF?
 
2:50 PM
barely
I mean, enough, but still a lot left to learn
stupid high learning curve
 
@gunr2171 Looking for someone to opine on whether this and this are duplicates
(Yes, I fail at editing)
 
similar, but I wouldn't go through the trouble of closing as duplicate
answers are the same, questions are almost the same thing
meh
 
Well the first one has an answer from 6 minutes ago that copy pastes from the second one.
 
shrug
we need the dolphin
 
2:57 PM
Why -23? That's crazy
Well actually it was edited really well. Problem is the user hasn't looked it up yet :P
 
Oh, the pre-edit version was a trainwreck, and had the word URGENT in all caps.
I'm trying to decide if it's too broad now.
 
@durron597 I hope you clicked leave closed ....
 
complete
 
@durron597 it was edited after it was closed. there are no reopen votes on it
 
3:00 PM
How does the user have any rep at all after -23?
 
we are not going to spend time on polishing turds and/or reopening those... what a waste of reopen tasks
 
That's only -46 rep
 
@AnubianNoob The user only has one decent question though, should have been at 11 rep before if I didn't miss something
 
Oh and on his profile most of them were done at 1 rep, so it didn't go down any more
 
for some reason the OP's prfile only records they have -5 from that question
 
3:02 PM
 
He went down 10 to 1, then the rest of the downvotes had no effect, then got upvoted up to 6
 
@NathanOliver i no rite?
 
The upvote was on the same question though :P
 
Ohhh I bet the guy who edited it upvoted it.
 
argh. Why would someone give him rep for that :(
 
3:03 PM
yeah, probably
 
Voting on main start to look like meta, it doesn't make sense anymore
 
1 upvote, 23 downvotes. Makes plenty of sense imo
 
I am surprised the question is still out there. most OP's would have deleted it by now.
 
But he's not losing rep for it
 
3:11 PM
that just is crazy -23 and he only loses 5 rep. grrrrrrr
 
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Q: Previous negative rep having no effect on more recent rep

APersonRecently, I've noticed a bunch of new users who have a small number of questions. They have received a number of downvotes on their first couple of questions or so; since they start out with 1 rep, it never changes because of the downvotes. However, once they get their first upvote, it gives th...

 
I've just written a meta question, would really appreciate feedback before I post it.
 
Gotta love when I get a random +1 appear... why +1? Because I downvoted 9 NAA / VLQ answers and then someone upvotes something else.
 
@AnubianNoob I'm voting to close this question as duplicate because it is a more specific version of this question
 
3:18 PM
@durron597 i would say that reopening that question would be unproductive. they are essentially asking us to debug a screenshot. there is no code, so how can we provide an answer?
and no examples of what they tried
 
@cimmanon Sounds good
 
well it has 3 reopens on it now.
 
@NathanOliver Reopen queue completed as "leave closed" though.
 
if it gets reopened, it should be closed again as "must provide mcve"
 
hopefully that will be enough
 
3:20 PM
@cimmanon We can keep an eye on it.
 
@durron597 Oh I didn't see that one at all thanks... It seems like the appropriate course of action would be to get chat/meta support and just do it... Should we dupe vote the others to the canonical one? Leave them be?
 
I would just edit it the best you can, and vtc the others as dupe of that one.
In fact, I'll mjollnir the first one if you want.
 
That's only for your own activities though. What I'm writing is to detect when any app on the device launches
 
(that was my bad too, I misread the first time :P)
 
3:24 PM
If it's not a duplicate, then explain why at the bottom of your question
something like <sub>This question is not a duplicate of this because...</sub>
 
@durron597 That one is really similar, but the accepted answer is completely wrong, the second answer is correct but not written well and I have a whole other way of doing it.
@durron597 Why isn't it flaggable? I just flagged it...?
 
I would just pick one of them, clean it up, write your answer, and vtc the others as dupe.
 
sorry - been v. busy - what's up?
 
afk for a bit
 
3:29 PM
@JonClements the usual stuff ...
 
@JonClements Most recent topics we are discussing is what Anubian Noob should do with trying to write a canonical answer, and whether this is flaggable for mod attention.
Also, whether or not I have had enough coffee today. (I haven't. brb.)
 
@durron597 Actually hang on that's not a dupe either. That asks to get a reference to the current activity, which is impossible. I can detect the launch of a running activity though.
stackoverflow.com/questions/3393908/… is closer to a dupe but really really messy. The accepted answer refers to activites within your applcation, and then gives a poorly explained tacked on solution and doesn't even mention that it doesn't working android 5.0+.
In that case could I ask and vote that one as a dupe of the canonical one?
 
@AnubianNoob you say the questions are unclear. Are those questions editable to make them less unclear? If so, why isn't that an option. And for the answers?
 
It'd be completely rewriting them if I tried to do that. And I'd have to change intent for clarity. Half the answer is answering the wrong question.
The main reason I'm doing this is because when I was figuring this out, it was a total pain in the ass. I ended up reverse engineering existing apps that demonstrated those features and spent a lot of time and effort figuring this out. I just want to make it easy for future visitors to the site to get a clear helpful thorough answer.
If they're gonna be rewritten, we might as well have a new question, right?
Also if this happens, is this an appropriate place to mark as a community wiki?
 
@AnubianNoob et al. Your question was "Is this meta question clear". It is... evidenced by the debate about your proposed SO question. However, I don't think clarity is the problem with your meta question. The question of whether or not you should post a question on SO is moot - do it or don't, it's up to you. Asking whether you should on meta is a waste of everyone's time. Better to ask yourself "How can I write this question so that it's clearly NOT a duplicate?"
 
3:42 PM
Originally I was asking if the meta question was good, but now we're answering it :P
I've asked myself, and I think it's a borderline dupe, but much more helpful. Now I'm asking the community if that's reasonable grounds for asking a new question.
 
@AnubianNoob You keep asking us to validate your motivation. You should not care whether we agree. Standard advice for the OP of a closed-duplicate question is to address the duplicates head-on, and explain why your situation is unique. You have the opportunity to do that ahead of time. If you can't do it successfully, post your answer on one of the existing questions, perhaps with some "you might not have thought of this, but" qualification on it.
 
@Mogsdad And if the latter won't help improve the site?
(at this point I'm just trying to understand the system)
 
4:00 PM
@AnubianNoob Do you mean: What if you feel that your hard-earned knowledge and answer isn't an improvement on existing answers? That's a question for a therapist or a life coach.
If your answer is at least no harm, it will be OK. If it's helpful, it will get upvoted by someone. That's how it works.
 
@durron597 Bradley gave a reply to that WPF question: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/25356201#25356201
 
@gunr2171 k thx
 
no prob-blah
 
chat has no quality and that includes the filters
you can post your problem here
 
4:39 PM
back
 
wb
 
This is just... bizarre. stackoverflow.com/a/32254438/1768232
(see suggested edit)
 
When you see this you know it is NAA
> I know we arent supposed to use the answer section for this ...
 
I really need to start learning the SEDE. What language is that? I use oracle pl/sql at work.
 
4:49 PM
@NathanOliver t-sql
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A: python django subtract timedelta object from datetime object?

mb52089mshsayem answered correctly in comment 1. subtracting a timedelta object from a datetime object works as it is supposed to.

 
ugh..
 
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A: Mysql query - using like <something> and <something='1'> with limit

user3881144Wow.. Thank you guys.. that does answer it.. When I change it to LIMIT 0, 5 it shows what its supposed to. I am sure if I tried the right search I would have noticed something missing.. Thank you all for your help

 
"thank you for all your help" is pretty common in answers
 
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A: Dependency Injection in WebAPI with Castle Windsor

Sumit DeshpandeCodeCaster, Noctis and Cristiano thank you for all your help and guidance.. I just got the solution for my above query - The first step is to use nuget to install the Windsor.Castle packages in the WebApi solution. Consider the following code snippet - Interface IWatch.cs public interface I...

 
I wasn't saying all of them are problems, just it's a common phrase
 
4:58 PM
 
@durron597 That question is pretty bad
 
@KevinBrown There's a lot to hate about that link.
@Kyll Just write them some codez until you have 3k =D
@SmokeDetector fp- edited
 
5:34 PM
Daily close vote limit reached; please try again in 6 hours. ;(
 
You would think this guy would know better:
 
@durron597 What time does it run (when it does)? I think I'm there.
 
@Mogsdad 0300 UTC daily, but it often doesn't. It took me four days to get mine.
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Q: Tag scores are not updated and the issue is getting worse

SzymonTag scores update is supposed to happen at 03:00 UTC every day. Tag scores are updated by a scheduled job that is time consuming and often times out (see for example the answers for Tag info not updated regularly on profile? and Tag scores have not updated; script did not run). In the past mont...

 
@durron597 He he. Already had an upvote on that... I wonder when that was?
 
@Mogsdad Probably around when I was bitching about not getting mine.
Ugh, three answers in a row, zero upvotes. Getting rep is suddenly much harder last few days than before.
 
5:40 PM
That's because I am stealing the votes.
 
@NathanOliver C++ week on SO, eh?
 
It hasn't been bad.
 
@durron597 >.>
 
user4639281
@durron597 How's this for the basis of a meta proposal? For users > 10k, show current and past review tasks on the timeline page of a post.
 
@TinyGiant Sure, I'm down.
We should start with a link to the timeline page first, though.
 
user4639281
5:51 PM
Yeah... that should probably be a separate request.
 
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Q: Why is there no link to timeline of the post?

nicaelI can see the timeline of a question: {site}/posts/{post_id}/timeline But there is no link to it. Maybe I can't just find it or it is located in the place hard to see. But if there is really no link to the timeline, then why? I found timeline pretty interesting. (see, for example, the timeline...

 
user4639281
> The old one remains for those who want it, but we've no plans to enhance it further.
 
user4639281
Maybe we need to make a case that users > 10k with the access moderator tools privilege should be able to see more useful information.
 
Alright, this userscript is useful (it adds the timeline and revision links to posts)
 
5:57 PM
Nice ... installed
 
@TinyGiant but Oded said it might go so I have this
 
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