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4:01 PM
@durron597 ... Before your campaign, I wasn't aware of this chat room. Since then, closing has been my main activity!
 
@Mogsdad Welcome to the dark side of the force
 
user4639281
Those who aren't on the dark side... don't know how much work it truly is.
 
Stack Overflow isn't about helping people, it's about destroying the dreams of beginners and making them weep
3
 
... stop making yourselves look like villians
 
We bring out the best in people...
 
user4639281
4:03 PM
We bring out the best people, by crushing the worst.
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There's one free star from me
 
user4639281
Lol, thanks gunr
 
Wow... Look what it's done to my rep march! stackexchange.com/leagues/1/month/stackoverflow/2015-08-01/…
 
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@Mogsdad Ouch, that hurts.
 
@TinyGiant Not so much... I'm happy making the place better.
 
4:05 PM
Drought periods are the story of my life
Though, I've gotta say that having a dupe hammer makes answering questions way, way less depressing
 
before it was 1. look at newest questions 2. See 10x dupes 3. vote to close them 4. other people answer and get rep. 5. cry
now it's 1. look at newest question 2. See 10x dupes. 3. BOOM
 
@durron597 good to see you're using it responsibly :p
 
gotta nuke my lunch... later!
 
@TinyGiant oh - new display picture?
 
user4639281
Yeah, people were confusing my garlic cloves with TylerH's face
 
@TinyGiant I find that worryingly amusing...
 
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4:17 PM
@JonClements It was amusingly worrying.
 
@durron597 paste your shortest answer first then edit
 
Questions about programming related tools ARE on topic.
 
Aug 5 at 18:29, by TylerH
Yes, my face often gets confused for an onion.
 
Man Martijn Pieters is quick
 
4:31 PM
Yeah, takes this way too serious ... ;)
 
@rene Holy crap look at that long edit reason
 
He is cheating, he uses an edit helper
 
I could be convinced he is a Jon Skeet bot
 
@durron597 I think he uses this one cc @NathanOliver
 
looks nice. I'll have to give it a try
 
5:06 PM
These need downvotes to be Roomba-eligible: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Ooops. Sorry for the mess.
 
NO, THE MESS!
 
number first link second
YOU CAN STILL EDIT
[1](http)
 
I was editing... done the first. Can't do the others, they're permanentish now.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Boom, all gone
 
Bah... gimme a mo', I'll edit
 
5:11 PM
@JonClements - no need if gone.
 
Umm... still see it
 
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Q: Give room owners the ability to edit their own old chat messages

durron597It seems strange to me that a diamond on any site (not just chat rooms for their site) can edit the old messages of anyone in any chatroom, yet room owners can't edit their old messages in rooms they own after the expiration period. Currently, Programmers is in the middle of a tag cleanup and I'...

 
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@JonClements He meant because all of the posts are gone.
 
Ahhh - that makes life easier then :p
 
Rene and I would be super happy to have this feature. Having to constantly make new messages and re-pin is a chore. — gunr2171 Jun 2 at 18:21
 
5:15 PM
... I did mean that. BUT, I've also deleted the lists to save others from clicking through needlessly. Yet, I still see them. Cache maybe?
 
user4639281
I just opened the homepage and got a cached page from yesterday lol.
 
user4639281
@JonClements Could you just delete it so it doesn't take up space in the log?
 
@JonClements They're not gone
 
@TinyGiant I can... but @gunr2171 can move it to the bin as well
 
I could move to bin, what do we want to do? I'm ok leaving it as-is
not a big deal to me
 
user4639281
5:18 PM
Oh, nvm
 
user4639281
I thought they were gone because there is a ] at the end of every link
 
user4639281
My bad.
 
I'm in support of the RO
 
@JonClements Please fix them
 
Oh make your beeping minds up :p
 
user4639281
5:20 PM
NO!
 
user4639281
I refuse.
 
@durron597 Got the accepted answer after I posted that. Happens.
 
@Deduplicator Weird. It was a question from 2010
@Deduplicator I'm out of deletes
I think the main goal is just to get them to 2 so they appear in the top of the 10k tools
 
Well, than that will have to wait for later or someone else
 
Try again. 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9,
10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16
 
5:25 PM
moving previous to bin...
2 messages moved to Trash can
and all is good in the world...
 
@Deduplicator Have you got any left yourself?
 
I'm out.
 
cya
 
user4639281
Bye
 
later
 
user4639281
5:27 PM
Hello @Félix
 
@durron597 Yes, many. Looking at [legal] in a moment. Unless you have a better target?
 
user4639281
What's new?
 
@TinyGiant Your picture, nothing else.
 
Had one too many drinks yesterday, but that's not very new under the sun.
 
5:29 PM
Though those are just terrible questions, not towards any particular goal
 
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@FélixGagnon-Grenier I'm glad I don't drink... often
 
I stopped spending mine on those questions when we started trying to delete but they're still sitting in my backlog
 
I wish I'd be that wise @TinyGiant. This particular monday is particularly harsh.
 
user4639281
@Deduplicator 'tis true, 'tis new
 
user4639281
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I never have time any more, wife, kids and a business can wipe you out.
 
5:32 PM
All of these need at least four people to look at 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
 
@Pekka bummers, will cw help? — Anycorn Sep 1 '10 at 16:52
 
heh. I'll take your word on that @TinyGiant :p
 
ugh, no. If the question is not suitable for the site, making it easier to edit won't help
 
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@gunr2171 lolz
 
user4639281
everbody cw-ed their posts there.
 
5:38 PM
all of that is done now
 
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@durron597 link to answer
 
In Pascal, '=' is the equality test, not '==' — anon Jul 19 '09 at 8:58
thanks for being backwards...
 
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Lol
 
Why do I feel like is going to be a goldmine
 
@KevinBrown experience with the dark side
 
5:43 PM
@KevinBrown If you make a burninate request I'll upvote it
too tired now
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown There's bound to be some, but there are also valid uses of the resources tag
 
So I've used all my comment flags and all my regular flags today
gotta be close to 90 helpful flags today o.O
 
user4639281
Or poossibly would be better
 
except for one spam flag that Jon... misclicked on
 
@durron597 Nah, no need for burninating it. It's definitely a valid tag
Just people probably misuse it occassionally
 
5:44 PM
^
 
oh, I lied, I have 2 regular flags left from helpful comment flags
 
resources tag could be used for code that tries to allocate system resources
 
@KevinBrown Well, then (yes, that's a real tag)
 
not necessarily just "share resources pl0x"
 
Or for VS resource files
 
5:45 PM
@durron597 "yes, that's a real tag because I made it one yesterday" :-P
 
@durron597 I'm too lazy to write up a meta post
I've been doing pretty well avoiding meta for the last month or so
 
@TylerH 55 questions with a wiki. That I made yesterday, right.
 
@rene That editor tool works pretty good. Thanks for pointing it out.
 
you're welcome
 
@NathanOliver Definitely recommended. just make sure to keep up to date when new releases are rolled
 
5:47 PM
@durron597 oh, sorry, the tag linked to MSO, not SO
 
@TylerH :)
 
yuck
@durron597 at the bottom of the wiki for that tag is "Well, what about retaggings which include adding tags (f.e. version tags)?"
shouldn't that be "i.e" not "f.e"?
 
it should be neither
i.e and f.e are not things
 
no one says "for example" as the abbreviated (that I've ever seen)
 
i.e. and f.e. on the other hand would be abbreviations
or it was just a copy error
you guys are too fast
 
5:53 PM
@durron597 also a resource request
 
@KevinBrown eh, that's an easy edit.
@KevinBrown If you can edit a question to make it not a resource request but still be basically the same question, then it's not a resource request
"Can anyone give me a tutorial on how to do X" is either a good question or too broad, depending on what X is.
 
user4639281
Yeah, it would be a resource request if "How to do X" wasn't too broad, but that on it's own is too broad so you could say that it is currently too broad of a resource request
 
error happened!
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bah
Yes Closey, I do
 
Remember it is a mile high, bits take longer to go uphill...
 
6:02 PM
lol
 
@TinyGiant @NathanOliver, do you have a retort?
 
Nope. I vtc and I deleted my answer
 
ok, just wanted to check
unfortunately, another answer took your place just in time
How far down is hell?
 
I think we are going to find out. Just remember it will get cold so don't forget you hats and gloves.
oh... It's gone now :(
 
user4639281
Hell, is apparently 4
 
user4639281
6:11 PM
brb, pizza
 
out of votes, out of del votes, out of close votes, out of flags
maybe I should do some work
 
What about your reviews? You could still looks okay anything that is ok
 
@NathanOliver 4 queues say "thank you for doing 20 today", 3 say "you have no more <votes/close votes> left"
the only one I'm allowed to do is H&I which... yeah, no.
 
you don't want to help and improve Stack Overflow? :-P
 
well I guess you are done slacking off for the day.
 
6:16 PM
@TylerH Yeah, I'm just a selfish rep whore
 
must resist urge to pin that
 
@gunr2171 make me room owner and I'll pin it myself
 
:D
 
a bold move
 
I'll talk with rene about it
 
6:17 PM
@gunr2171 I didn't realize a public statement of my rep whoreitude was so valuable to you
 
@durron597 I don't know... you get your gold badge, then you want RO - where does it end? :p
 
next, the world!
 
@JonClements when ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE CLOSED AND DELETED AND I BUY STACKOVERFLOW.COM FOR $431 DOLLARS
 
@durron597 Why the extra $30?
 
@Pekka웃 Sorry!DavidG Aug 4 at 11:07
should be $402
 
6:19 PM
Oh, for some reason I thought he outbid him by $30
 
you've got to play "Price is Right" rules with bidding
inb4 honk says hi
 
Whow, full house. Hi! :p
 
godaddy wants me to buy stackoverflow.guru for $25
 
solid investment
 
6:23 PM
@gunr2171 skill
 
:D
 
@JonClements Can you handle my flag here please: stackoverflow.com/questions/31926074/…
 
@gunr2171 You already made my day :)
 
Woot!
 
@durron597 it'll get handled when it gets handled - no need to ask me personally
 
6:26 PM
I'm having trouble with a really difficult multithreading bug and i don't want to think about it so I'm just trying to micromanage SO as much as I can
as procrastination
 
procrastination is always the....uh..what's the word? Meh, I'll figure it out later.
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I can't even answer questions, I'm either right at the cap or just under it
 
Don't let a rep cap prevent you from contributing!
 
@TylerH -- Jon Skeet 2015
 
6:29 PM
@Unihedron boom
 
I'm going to hold off from more cv-ing until I start reviewing. I'm at 40 left.
 
boom again
hoarding those CV's hun
 
yup
 
I dont know how this question is still open but please lets kill it. I put a custom off-topic on it: stackoverflow.com/questions/31926566/…
 
6:41 PM
@NathanOliver Still open --> Sister questions seem to be ok
 
It shouldn't be. it needs to go.
 
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Hello @honk
 
@TinyGiant Hi! Oh! New avatar?
 
user4639281
Yeah, the confusion between tyler's face and the onion.
 
@TinyGiant LOL!
 
6:45 PM
@NathanOliver gone
Hah.
Yes, it is a very bad habit. You should learn from a book; you cannot expect to learn by asking questions like this. — Lightness Races in Orbit 3 hours ago
i'll do it next time — user3530803 3 hours ago
claps loudly
 
@LynnCrumbling ty
 
@Mogsdad voted dup
 
Ooh, I have the highest voted, accepted answer in a HNQ question
 
link?
 
It turns out I had some rep to spare but I doubt I will by the end of the day
 
6:51 PM
@LynnCrumbling Thanks!
 
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A: Why does EnumSet have many overloaded of methods?

durron597Varargs methods create an array. public static void foo(Object... args) { System.out.println(args.length); } This works, because of the implicit array creation. EnumSet is a class designed to be very, very fast, so by creating all the extra overloads they can skip the array creation step in ...

 
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@Mogsdad Voted
 
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@durron597 That might also have to do with you sharing that in here when it was originally posted
 
@TinyGiant Yeah probably
Though you guys are pretty good about not upvoting stuff when it gets linked
 
user4639281
We all upvoted it, then it probably was pushed to the hnq then all of the attention it got.
 
6:54 PM
@durron597 I retract my dumb question :)
 
@LynnCrumbling Hey, I'll take the upvotes. Actually I think that upvoting the question helps more than upvoting my answer, feel free to do that
 
@durron597 HNQ? Hit 'N' Quit?
 
@honk lol. Hot Network Question
 
user4639281
Expecting people in this room not to vote on question posted here is... futile
 
@TinyGiant Oh, downvotes flow like breathing
This is not the best room to "buck for upvotes" because it's against the rules
(that's not what I was doing, fwiw)
 
user4639281
6:57 PM
No, but you can't expect people to not vote on good content any more than you can expect them to not vote on bad content
 
@NathanOliver le boom
 
@durron597 sure it wasn't :p
42 mins ago, by durron597
@TylerH Yeah, I'm just a selfish rep whore
@TylerH ty
 
@TinyGiant usually when I post something hoping it gets upvoted, it doesn't, and when I post something not expecting it to be upvoted, it gets upvoted
 
@TylerH That's because we know when you have rulebreaking on the brain
 
user4639281
Of course. If people know you have the intention of getting upvotes when mentioning a post, you are much less likely to get that.
 
6:59 PM
@durron597 pfft, stay out of my head, Minority Report
 
@TylerH did you see they are turning that into a TV show?
 
@TinyGiant I never frame the questions with "hey guys upvote this" or "look at this good content", it's just sharing a relevant answer or something, where I either think "hmm I hope they upvote that" or I don't
@NathanOliver I haven't. I've only seen that they are remaking Jumanji
 
user4639281
It is then because there is actually a chat-bot that you cannot see which posts exactly what you are thinking at all times.
 
Okay, I'm definitely at 19 upvotes now. Time to back off :-P
 
@durron597 Yep. We should probably VTC... 8)
 
7:03 PM
@NathanOliver Wait, a TV show?
 
@KevinBrown @TylerH imdb.com/title/tt4450826
 
that's listed as a "TV Movie"
> Right. Series Pilots are identified as TV Movies on IMDB. Web Series are also identified as TV (they are studying proposed changes).
 
@durron597 Now 20?
 
@honk Yep. Capped
Might even be page 1 of rep league tomorrow
 
I need a gif of Scrooge McDuck diving into a pool of upvotes.
 
7:10 PM
 
lol, maybe
 
> Can haz a gif of scroog mcduk diving into upvotes pl0x
I'm sure that will go over well
 
@durron597 How often do you still need to cap for the Epic badge?
 
7:35 PM
In the suggested edit on that post it is replacing javascript with Java. I think it's c#.
 
Is this Q about programming? stackoverflow.com/q/31927390/2675154
 
user4639281
Need a language-unknown tag
 
user4639281
@honk It is, but far too broad
 
Shouldn't it be moved to superusers?
 
@NathanOliver Would also have been my quess...
 
7:38 PM
That's what I was thinking, it's borderline for me though. Voted too broad
 
user4639281
It would be too broad there, there is no relevant information about the system, the number of answers would be huge, but it is on-topic for stack overflow otherwise.
 
user4639281
It needs two more
 
I see that. went with too-broad.
 
error happened!
0: Could not retrieve data of message 25005305. Do you have an active internet connection?
 
hum, I wonder if in order to delete a message it needs to be edited
which would trip Closey
 
7:44 PM
idk
I just want to confirm that smokey only triggers on post marked as spam because I don't see how someone marked that post as spam
 
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@NathanOliver It uses heuristics
 
@NathanOliver @TinyGiant huh? What've I missed?
 
Ah. So it has it own spam engine it is using to find possible targets and that why we register a tp or fp to let it know if it was good or not.
@JonClements Smokey through out a possible and then after I edited it it removed the message from the chat
 
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@NathanOliver Yes
 
I have another one: Is this Q flag-worthy or just... poorly written? stackoverflow.com/q/31927373/2675154
 
user4639281
7:49 PM
@honk Unclear
 
@honk I went with unclear
 
Boom! Thanks!
Unclear fits well, but I didn't see that. I think I need to go to bed soon...
 
@gunr2171 That is not what I see in the websocket frames if I delete a message
 
@NathanOliver It's too hot for good sleep anyway. Even 32 bit wouldn't help...
 
7:55 PM
lol. I know how you fell it was hot an muggy last night I don;t think i fell asleep until about 2am
 
error happened!
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happened again.
 
user4639281
That ignore list coming along is it?
 
should I register the fp before I edit?
 
user4639281
no it'll happen any time the post is removed
 
user4639281
7:57 PM
whether you edit or not
 
why is the chat post getting removed then?
 
user4639281
Because of -
 
user4639281
Closey is listening to smokey, for some reason it only happens when smokey does it.
 
user4639281
Probably it is because it is removed at the exact time that another message is being added.
 
Closey does a refetch for events it sees on the websocket. That refetch fails when the event_type = 10
 
user4639281
8:00 PM
Ahhh
 
Are questions that ask how something is done on a linked website on-topic/ok?
 
user4639281
@honk As long as it includes the code in the question
 
@honk Not if that is the only thing
 
user4639281
link?
 
depends on the question and how it is formulated
 
8:01 PM
No code, here is the question: stackoverflow.com/q/31927357/2675154
 
user4639281
@honk Too broad
 
or unclear
 
what I feel like when I see a spam post:
 
user4639281
Even if the code was in the question
 
8:02 PM
@TinyGiant agreed
 
Ok, thanks!
 
user4639281
For posts "How do I do this?" (except CSS) it is off-topic
 
user4639281
@cybermonkey that is unclear all on its own. What version is it?
 
@TinyGiant what I thought as well. IMHO the OP of the question doesn't know what they're doing.
 
8:07 PM
@Closey starting
 
@NathanOliver May the Vote be with you!
 
@TinyGiant hl7 is a pretty complex spec and I don't know their version strategy
 
user4639281
@cybermonkey Help me, I have no idea what I'm doing, must haz ansewrs nowez or catastrophy occurz!
 
user4639281
lol
 
8:09 PM
@TinyGiant Just take ^PARACETAMOL|10||mg and cool down ;)
 
user4639281
Lolz
 
@honk like 38 times
 
@honk hl7 parse error, PARACETAMOL is not a recognize record-type
 
user4639281
Rule of thumb, the stake used to vanquish vampires should be bigger than your thumb.
 
@Closey starting
 
8:14 PM
@gunr2171 Watch out for audits!
 
@Closey next 3 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@gunr2171 The next 3 tags are: 237, 145, 108
 
I'm switching to twitter, giving up on mysql
 
@durron597 Maybe somebody wrote it for him...
 
8:17 PM
@honk yeah probably
I bet that's a shared account.
 
You have no more close votes today; come back in 3 hours.
 
@NathanOliver The review session has been marked as completed. To set the number of items you reviewed use the command last session edit count <new count>
 
@Closey last session edit count 25
 
Review item count has been changed:
User: NathanOliver (4342498)
Start Time: 2015-08-10 20:07:03 UTC
End Time: 2015-08-10 20:17:53 UTC
Items Reviewed: [Not Set] -> 25
Use the command 'last session stats' to see more details.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
8:18 PM
@NathanOliver Your last completed review session ended 33 seconds ago and lasted 10 minutes and 49 seconds. You reviewed 25 items, averaging a review every 25 seconds.
 
later guys
 
user4639281
Bye :)
 
@Closey starting
 
@rene By the power of the Vote! Review!
 
@NathanOliver bye!
 
8:21 PM
passed html audit
passed java audit
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 3 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last sessions stats
 
@rene Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 27 seconds ago and lasted 7 minutes and 32 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 11 seconds.
 
8:34 PM
Ok, I'm off counting sheeps. Cya!
 
cya
 
ugh, for once I would love to be not interrupted in the middle of reviews...
 

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