« first day (754 days earlier)      last day (3063 days later) » 

user3956566
1:00 PM
@DavidG is he driving you crazy? Is this true Kevin :D
2
 
@MsYvette Yes, I don't mind chatter, but it's so much that it's distracting. It's either ignore or leave the room so I can do some work!
 
user3956566
@DavidG yep I understand, that's why Kevin and I go to other chat rooms
 
Hey what happened? I'm back now :)
 
Proving my point perfectly.....
 
@DavidG Defaced the question :/
 
1:03 PM
@MsYvette Actually it's very easy, if I say some !!/blame now maybe David will really ignore me.
Oops, Italics.
 
Somehow someone scored 40 rep off of that abomination
 
There has been a lot worse examples than this in the past
 
It's sickening
 
user3956566
I really didn't understand that either
 
1:11 PM
spam or abusive?
 
spam
 
@KevinGuan Just realized that your edit changes the meaning of my post :P
Ms - Mega Second, ms - milli second
 
@BhargavRao Oops, sorry about that. Don't know that :P
 
too slow :)
 
1:15 PM
yep
 
@BhargavRao Will do that now!
@BhargavRao Done
 
Cheaters
 
Also told Yvette. She's quicker than me.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki hahahaha you did that for me! :D
 
1:18 PM
@Tunaki Lol :D
 
user3956566
what does stack expect, tell a bunch of OCDs how to get hats and we go berserk! LOL
 
Damn. Thrown off the leaderboard of hats.
 
See my new hat :D.
Also, have 8 hats now.
 
@KevinGuan Nice hat, yeah, cheater.
:)
 
:P
@BhargavRao So that's what I did: I gave you 50 rep, and you gave me a hat :P
 
1:25 PM
It is, he used the same one last year
 
:P That very fit him.
 
Hairboat was earned by commenting on one of abby hairboat's posts or replying to one of her comments.
 
@KevinGuan Martijn has become a mod so he is busy to participate in hats :(
 
Sam
Afternoon.
 
@Sam Night
 
1:33 PM
@KevinGuan Tomorrow Morning
 
@BhargavRao Next year.
 
@NathanOliver I am surprised that the meta question hasn't got any official communication.
 
@Sam morning
 
Hello Sam o/
 
Sam
1:36 PM
Hey all \o/
@KevinGuan My list of bots-to-make is getting a little big atm...
 
user3956566
Hi @Sam !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
@BhargavRao It is not really surprising. I think they are looking into it but it is probably one server that is acting up and trying to find that one would not be easy. rene pinged Shog9 on it.
 
@Sam Maybe make a bot that makes bots?
 
Sam
@Thaillie Only Skeet can do that.
2
 
@Sam Yeah, yeah.
 
1:38 PM
@NathanOliver So soon it will be rectified. Glad to hear that.
 
meta.stackexchange.com/a/9138/257130 Point 3 (building on Sams comment)
 
@BhargavRao I don't know about soon but I hope so.
 
Fingers crossed
 
@NathanOliver Hey
 
15th hat coming soon :P
 
Sam
1:42 PM
Would unlocking moderation tools (reviewing, editing, closing, etc.) on something other than rep be a good idea?
 
@Sam What would you use other than rep?
 
user3956566
@Sam what do you mean?
 
@Sam no, because apparently reputation is a representation of how well you are trusted on SO, more so than an indication of how much you know/how skilled you are
 
I think I'm one up-vote away from the 007 badge
 
Read on meta once, cannot locate source, got to reboot- brb
 
1:44 PM
Like 1000 reviews, 250 helpful flags and at least 5k rep? :)
 
Sleep time, night everyone.
 
Good Night
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Well, one idea that come's to mind would to allow users to "request access" to a given moderation tool, the request would then be reviewed (similar to the review queues already in place") by users that have had access to the tool for x period and used the tool at least y times.
 
Night
 
Sam
@TimCastelijns Keyword: apparently.
Rep is a measure of your knowledge, not ability to moderate.
 
1:46 PM
@Sam Nice double hat
 
Sam
@KevinGuan Night
@BhargavRao Thanks.
 
@Sam How would you figure out if the person requesting the tools is going to use them well?
 
I actually agree with @Sam, if I ask lots of question on SO, I can get to 10k rep without answering at all. I've seen people with around that rep asking hundreds of questions and I wouldn't trust them to use the mod tools.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Again, another idea would be to only allow the submission of said request (i.e., the request won't enter the review queue until they've used the tool after x) after completing several audit-like tasks, in other words, they'd be given access to the tool, but their actions wouldn't actually apply to any thing, these actions would simply be included as a type of "report" of how they would use this tool.
 
I am not saying I disagree. I just don't know of a system that would be better that would scale to our current size and larger.
 
1:52 PM
Like I said, number of reviews completed, helpful flags raised or some other stats based on close votes?
 
Sam
The actions could then be used to judge how well the user would perform.
 
@Sam what problem is trying to be solved here?
 
@DavidG But you would not have those things until you request them and get approved If I am reading what @sam is saying right.
 
Sam
@DavidG Exactly.
 
@NathanOliver Not sure the request process is needed tbh
 
Sam
1:54 PM
@JonClements Just thinking how we can improve the system so we're not handing out tools to users that may misuse (or misunderstand) them.
 
Feature-request: Make Sam decide if someone is worthy enough of using a moderation tool
2
 
user3956566
what's the idea?
 
Is that really an issue though. Misuse is curtailed fairly quickly - I'm wondering if the focus should be more on getting the people that have those abilities to actually start using them
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Simplified idea: user wants x tool -> user gets "test" access to x tool (their actions aren't actually applied) -> when x actions are made, their request enters the "queue".
 
@JonClements Isn't that part of the point being made? There are people under 10k rep who want to use them but can't
 
Sam
1:56 PM
^
 
user3956566
@JonClements totally agree, or reduce votes needed to close posts
 
Sam
@DavidG And vice versa (people that shouldn't necessarily have access).
 
@Sam you don't have to use the tool though
 
user3956566
so what would you reduce the min rep to?
 
Sam
@Tunaki I was referring to people that do use it, but incorrectly.
@MsYvette I wouldn't use rep at all.
 
user3956566
1:59 PM
@Sam ok
 
Sam
12 mins ago, by Sam
Rep is a measure of your knowledge, not ability to moderate.
 
@MsYvette I think you have to keep it, but also give tool access to people who have completed some other measure that demonstrates ability to moderate
 
@Sam if 10kers use a mod tool incorrectly (by flagging posts and getting their flags rejected), a moderator is alerted automatically I think?
 
I want them :p, but I don't have time to write answers/questions to gain rep so I will never get them :p
 
But that won't tell mods that they used the mod tool, and nor should it. Bad flagging is bad flagging.
 
user3956566
2:00 PM
well I've noticed there are people very active on meta who do not have high rep, but they have a good knowledge of how the site works, the prob is with moderation, is there needs to be a base level knowledge of programming.
 
Sam
@Tunaki No idea; I was mainly thinking of the review queues when I said that though.
 
user3956566
@DavidG you mean make it lower for people with higher mod tools use?
 
@Sam Ha I thought you were talking about the moderator tools (10k+ tools)
 
user3956566
@Thaillie I think a way around this may also be assessing active account time on SO also
 
@MsYvette No, I mean you get tools at 10k (if nothing, this prevents people complaining that it's gone away) or if you have done XYZ
 
2:01 PM
@Sam I really think what we need is just an expansion of tag badge powers. Gold badges users could have their close votes count for 3 votes, silver 2. Once you have a silver tag badge you get limited access to mod tools based on your tag badge. This way we can get people who are considered knowledgeable in their domain moderating it. then the high rep people can come in and fill in any holes that are left.
 
user3956566
@DavidG yes, so it's always at 10K or less if you meet other requirements?
 
Yes
 
user3956566
@DavidG yes good idea
 
user3956566
I think the dupe hammer badges should still be given out sparingly
 
@NathanOliver the issue with that that someone always brings up is that some tags that could do with moderating don't have more than a handful of bronze badge users...
 
2:03 PM
@NathanOliver I'm sure I read somewhere that there are some ideas floating round to give silver tag badge holders some more "power"
 
@MsYvette Is having to get 10k rep from at least 400 posts not sparingly enough? :p
 
Sam
@NathanOliver This doesn't address other tools in a user's arsenal though.
 
@JonClements Yeah and that is why you would still need high rep user. Unless you build some sort of sliding scale where tag use dictates the levels you need to have to get the different tag badges.
 
user3956566
@JonClements no I mean I wouldn't lower the bench mark for dupe hammers
 
user3956566
^^ not make it harder :)
 
Sam
2:04 PM
My main point here was that users shouldn't "just be handed" these tools.
 
Well this is also why we have the audit system.
 
Sam
No comment. lol
 
Sam
:)
 
morning!
 
2:06 PM
Hello Gunr o/
 
Hey
 
Plop!
 
Sam
Hey
 
o/
 
2:06 PM
\o
 
Kevin was worried about you @Kyll earlier. He thought you might have had a life!
 
Plop Kyll o/
 
@Tunaki I just overslept. When I oversleep I do it for realz
 
3PM, that's some serious oversleep
here's a cookie
 
Sam
@NathanOliver The audit system only filters out a few cases of bad reviewing, I feel we can improve this.
 
2:08 PM
ty
 
Guten tag!
 
Bonjour
 
Namaskara
 
Salut \o/
 
2:16 PM
@Sam agreed. maybe you have some sort of test built that you have to pass every so often and if you do you get to keep/access the tools.
 
Sam
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
 
@Sam meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/308425/… this is actually where I read that
I'm not saying it's either A or B, just wanted to share that
 
Sam
Sure
 
Day 15 completed.
 
wait, don't babies do that anyways?
 
2:23 PM
Nice Nathan, Im way behind :P
 
@TimCastelijns I still haven't done day 7.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Same.
 
Slackers
 
Sam
Slackers Overflow.
 
2:26 PM
@NathanOliver I did that one yesterday.. took me ~ 2 hours
 
@TimCastelijns I figure that is about what it is going to take me. I just need to find a chunk of time where I can set my brain on it.
 
I have only done day 12 part 1 :p
 
@Thaillie do you plan on doing the others?
 
@TimCastelijns When I have free time :p
 
For 12.2 if you do not want to use a JSON parser you should be able to walk through the input backwards and if you find a brace pair with "red" in it then through out the total you calculated for the brace pair.
 
2:31 PM
I am going to try and do them all in Python, should be a nice exercise to learn it :p
 
That sounds like a good way to learn the language. strings, files, algorithms will get you on your way to being an expert :)
 
Yes 12 is easy with python
 
Doing them in would be to easy :p
 
^s/easy/evil
@KevinGuan lets calm down a little bit on the joke bot commands and posting content from questions and answers. A little bit is okay but to much clutters the transcript and gets a little spammy. Any more of this and we'll have to take some action.
 
user3956566
Kevin's gone to bed
 
Sam
2:42 PM
I should build a bot for that™.
 
I don't see him any more
 
user3956566
I took him to a private chat room and we had a good chat about quietening down. I think he's doing ok..
 
@MsYvette we know
 
@MsYvette Thanks. I just trying to rein things in a bit.
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver I know and I get it, I've made friends with him and have taken him under my wing a bit. He will be ok. He's truly very bright and it's just enthusiasm that needs to be tempered :)
 
2:46 PM
@MsYvette That's great thanks. I agree completely with you there. I've unblocked him now :)
 
@alirezasafian I went with too broad as it is a how can I do this question.
 
user3956566
@DavidG I'm really happy about that
 
@NathanOliver Noted
 
user3956566
@alirezasafian same I went too broad also.
 
@MsYvette noted, tnx
 
2:48 PM
@alirezasafian Managed to remove noise just before closure!
 
user3956566
@alirezasafian oh sorry, I didn't mean to berate you
 
@MsYvette No problem, I learn better what a suitable reason is.
 
user3956566
I'll have to go to bed soon, do we have a poem @DavidG?
 
@BhargavRao Sure, I'll do.
 
Hello JAL o/
 
Sam
2:52 PM
Hey @Jal
 
JAL
moring all
 
A poem for Ms Yvette.
She is asking David, but why him?
Why not ask Tim?
Now you go, off to bed.
2
 
Plop JAL. Up for some controlled chaotic murdery destruction tonight?
 
user3956566
@alirezasafian if they're saying, I got this problem and I dunno how to fix it, and there's no code, then it's MV, if it's how do I do this and it requires a tutorial or code sample, too broad, if it's how do I do blobspots? It's like what?? unclear, if it's is A better than B or should I, or what's best it's POB and/or possibly broad
 
@Kyll lopp
 
user3956566
2:54 PM
@JAL morning Jal
 
JAL
hello @MsYvette
@Kyll Dammit I have my company holiday party tonight
You'll have to play with @gunr
 
@JAL Hey
 
Aw
 
Sam
@JAL Hey
 
JAL
morning Nathan
Sam
 
2:55 PM
@MsYvette Sure, ready?
 
Hey, I had to check the "I'm not a robot" captcha
But I am a robot. What should I do?
2
 
user3956566
Well my dear Tim
I apoligise for being dim,
As it is clear in English or in Dutch,
Your poetry is just such..
delight
4
 
JAL
SO is catching on, the bots are getting better
 
@Tunaki Bug report on meta ;)
 
@DavidG you lost the FGITW points, but you can still win based on quality
 
2:55 PM
As we send you off to bed
to rest your tired and slumbering head.
Think of us in your dreams tonight
while we are all out of sight

For tomorrow comes another day
filled with joy, come what may.
As we will close all the posts we can
While Smokey shows us all the spam.
6
 
@MsYvette I'll try to choose best, tnx
 
@Tunaki Use the nearest human body to complete it
 
user3956566
@DavidG sniff that's your best yet.. even better than closey's eulogy sniff
 
@Kyll nope, going to block that one out...
 
@DavidG that is really great :)! You got me beat
 
user3956566
2:56 PM
ok boys and girls. You make may day like 1500% happier and more fun... night!
 
Meh, few mistakes in it. I should do better!. Night night Ms!
 
Considering it only took like 3 minutes.. we can't complain
Is someone keeping track of all the poems that are created here? It should be(come) a marvelous collection of creativity
 
Maybe use to track it?
 
There should be a gist repo of all these poems
 
Sam
Maybe we should have an org repo for this? @Gunr
 
3:00 PM
I can make some mini website for it
 
Let's propose @Sam make a bot module for collecting these
 
Lol @kayess
 
Sam
Lol, Closey's side job.
 
Actually just another side-effect to the commandhandler
 
Need some way to mark something as poetic, like replying to a chat message with "clo poem"
 
3:02 PM
Oooh
And then
!!/poem would pick a poem and display it!
 
But that's Smokey's command format
 
Yeah!
 
@Kyll "Closey's side job"
 
better: "@clo make the world beautiful"
 
@DavidG Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
3:04 PM
@Thaillie Why only use one bot when you have two?
 
@Clo say a poem
 
@Tunaki Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
@Clo sudo say a poem
 
@Tunaki Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
Sam
afk
 
3:06 PM
roses are red
violets are blue

close votes are precious
and delete votes are too
Check out that epic poetry skillz
 
roses are red
here's something new

violets are violet
not freeking blue
 
@NathanOliver but... but... red and precious don't rhyme
 
Closey is red, Smokey is blue. My eyes are yellow, I must have flu
 
inb4 Sam bookmarks this as "SOCVR Poetry Slam 2015"
3
 
3:09 PM
@Tunaki meh. close votes are sacred then.
 
> protected by Community♦
^ what does that mean?
 
JAL
I think that happens when someone answers, deletes their answer, undeletes, and deletes again
to prevent vandalism and bad answers
(or something like that)
 
Automatically happens when a certain number of answers is reached I think.
 
@DavidG Only 4 answers there, that's not too much.
3 are deleted though (so 7 in total).
 
3:14 PM
@NathanOliver thanks
 
np. It was all google
 
JAL
ah so it was the 3 deleted answers
also there is an edit that should be rejected on that same question: stackoverflow.com/a/14208962/2415822
damn robo-reviewers accepted
 
grr. I hate it when I'm leaving a comment, and the OP self-deletes.
 
same
 
Sam
And back.

SOCVR Poetry Slam 2015

31 mins ago, 16 minutes total – 60 messages, 14 users, 19 stars

Bookmarked 24 secs ago by Sam

2
Just... had to.
 
3:28 PM
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited.
 
What the heck is that? (see the comments)
Is everybody going hat-crazy?
 
JAL
> Exam_block_t *****schema_data = Make_schema();
 
Is everybody that-crazy?
 
3:40 PM
@Tunaki What hat will you get for that? :/
 
@BhargavRao I don't know. One hat per ***** pointers?
3
 
Lol...
I should've asked my question via the app. I would have got another hat. sigh
 
well this comment made my day: stackoverflow.com/questions/34293199/…
Does this answer come of as ageist? stackoverflow.com/a/32820531/4342498
 
yes
 
Sam
@Pro FR: make Smokey listen to edits.
 
3:50 PM
I don't get that. They are to precious to waste like that.
 
@Sam When I was a newbie on the site, I once chose "vote to close this as off topic because it is spam" .... :-(
 
Sam
@BhargavRao You are forgiven.
 
@Sam That does sound like a good idea, I actually don't have any reasons against. @Undo Opinions?
 
@Sam Thank you, my Lord.
 
@ProgramFOX I thought it does listen to edits? Otherwise how do we see the "too many repeating chars" posts when a user defaces a post?
 
3:55 PM
@DavidG @Sam actually meant edits in chat... right?
 
@DavidG Sam means edits of the chat message
 
<--- derp
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Yeah.
 
phew :P
And yeah, it does listen to post edits, @David.
 
3:57 PM
@Sam digging the past I see
 
Nite!
 
Night
 
Sam
@Tunaki Yeah, just checking on some rooms I own.
Night!
 

« first day (754 days earlier)      last day (3063 days later) »