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12:10 AM
@TinyGiant I'm back
 
user4639281
Cool, I'll push my latest copy to my branch.
 
user4639281
K pushed.
 
user4639281
right now in the diff it will put a (type) after the replaced pieces so you can tell what regex caught it.
 
@TinyGiant The hunt is on...
 
user4639281
And it'll put everything that is omitted and replaced inside a <code></code> and the block code gets put in a <pre><code></code></pre>. AND it gets syntax highlighting somehow.
 
user4639281
12:14 AM
Don't ask me how it gets syntax highlighting, I didn't do it.
 
user4639281
Look at it prove me wrong, now it's not doing it.
 
@TinyGiant Tag based?
 
user4639281
No, it was doing it on the question I'm testing it on, but at some point I changed something so it doesn't anymore.
 
user4639281
12:32 AM
Whatever,we don't need syntax highlighting. It looks so much better with code inside a codeblock as it is.
 
user4639281
The magic behind making the diff work nicely was to split the body by newlines then diff each line.
 
user4639281
The last clause of the links regex catches too much, and I can't seem to get the right balance
 
user4639281
And the .NET rule causes problems for things like 'authorize.net'
 
1:05 AM
@TinyGiant Funny. I was writing up a bug report because it missed asp.NET. It just can't be a general rule, needs to be only for Microsoft .NET branded things.
@TinyGiant Issue #19
 
user4639281
So it's going to be like the windows rule? Thanks Microsoft.
 
user4639281
But things like authorize.net should be exluded as filenames.
 
user4639281
Which is what I'm working on now.
 
user4639281
Either that or we need a way to exclude it from firstcaps if the first letter is directly preceded by a period.
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant Why?
Oh - it gets the double-spaced "sentence", that's nice.
 
user4639281
And authorize.net is left alone
 
user4639281
So we don't get firstcaps where it shouldn't be. I also think I have .net figured out.
 
@TinyGiant Hokay.
 
user4639281
/(?:(?:vb|\s+)\.net|\s*?[0-9]+)(?:\s+?(?:framework|core))?/gi
 
1:26 AM
Just realized I left a bunch of new regex rules in an open editor on my work PC... and they're doing a power shutdown this weekend. Time for remote desktop man!
 
user4639281
Lol
 
user4639281
Though that last rule may not be perfect yet.
 
user4639281
/(?:vb|\s+)(?:\.net|\s*[0-9]+)\s*(?:framework|core)?/gi
 
user4639281
But you know more about .NET versioning than I do
 
@TinyGiant "Know"? No.
Just figured I'd start here, and hope to get enough to be useful.
 
user4639281
1:34 AM
We need a .NET person cc @rene
 
@TinyGiant Hey... now we can look at adding periods for unterminated sentences.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad I wasn't going to say it, lol.
 
@cimmanon I was tempted to tag it . <<shudder>>
 
user4639281
We should be catching cpu and turning it into CPU. Pedantic I know.
 
@TinyGiant Issue #20
The new sentence rule might be conflicting with spaces after punctuation.
 
user4639281
1:48 AM
Yeah, I'm working on that now.
 
user4639281
Look at you, finding all the gremlins I'm trying to fix before you find them.
 
2:08 AM
@TinyGiant What is the .net doing in the links regex?
        //        regex101.com/r/tZ4eY3/5 links and link-sections
        "links":  /\[[^\]\n]+\](?:\([^\)\n]+\)|\[[^\]\n]+\])|(?:  (?:\[\d\]): \w*:+\/\/.*\n*)+|(?!.net)(?:\/\w+|.:\\|\.[^ \n\r.]+|\w+:\/\/)[^\s)]*/g,
 
user4639281
That's a negative lookaround, I'm pretty sure you did that.
 
user4639281
But it's saying to exclude strings that are preceded by .net
 
user4639281
but that should also have an i flag.
 
@TinyGiant I don't know... versions 1-4 of that regex101 are unfamiliar. The tests left for the version we're using don't cover .net, so it's confusing.
 
user4639281
I may have done that, but anyways the last section of that regex matches plain urls. the middle section is in its own group on my end for display purposes.
 
user4639281
2:16 AM
I faintly recall you saying it matched .NET stuff, so that may have prompted me to put that in there.
 
Node.js would need to be excluded as well.
At one point we were working out a regex to get urls & paths. Do you recall?
... because this doesn't catch file names.
 
user4639281
Yeah, that's it. That was what I was complaining about earlier. I have to go back and rework it, see where I screwed up.
 
user4639281
The problem is that if it catches too much, then it catches things it shouldn't catch and excludes pieces of prose from being automatically edited.
 
user4639281
Like before it was catching anything like "/something" but then you get things like "yes/no" and it excludes the second half.
 
Yeah, it's not simple, that's clear. I've added a few test cases, regex101.com/r/tZ4eY3/8
 
user4639281
2:24 AM
regex101.com/r/tZ4eY3/9 modified, we just need to make sure any rules that we're putting in are filename safe. (I moved the link sections part to a separate rule so it doesn't need to be in that test anymore)
 
Might be better to treat .NET, Node.js, and Anycompany.com as special cases, with a separate editing pass, leaving the main pass to deal with generic patterns. (Doesn't help with yes/no, on/off, etc.)
 
user4639281
But then of course you cannot correct those. So I think #9 is best.
 
@TinyGiant ...unless there's another pass, like I said. Which would be sad.
 
user4639281
2:27 AM
Argh, I don't want to do another pass. I'd rather find a way around it. But if not, I guess we'll have to.
 
@TinyGiant It's always something, though... regex101.com/r/tZ4eY3/12
@TinyGiant Or have a few things that just don't get magic.
 
Well, that's it for me. Off to the inlaws for Thanksgiving at 6AM. Apparently geeking out is "anti-social" and "sets a bad example for the kids".
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad There is that too
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Me too, I'll be on in the morning.
 
2:30 AM
Have a great holiday, talk to you next week!
 
user4639281
TTYS
 
6:57 AM
@TinyGiant I have the feeling I need a lot of context to understand where you need me for ...
 
Oh man Rene is up time to go to sleep
 
7:54 AM
@josilber Ha, sleep well ;)
that needs close votes as well
cv-ed
 
8:12 AM
@rene Voted. Are there any guidelines for using fp vs. ignore? When is it appropriate to use one or the other?
 
@NisseEngström I assume there is no debate about a title being all caps or not so adding a false positivie or a true positive to that report doesn't make much sense. I use ignore to signal to others that edited the post, that is basically it. The only problem with it might be that if the OP rolls-back it goes unnoticed
But fp will work as well, no harm done (but don't add the u if the user is not a spammer)
 
@rene Right, thanks. I assume the same goes for the phone number detector.
 
@NisseEngström well this one I would fp because that is not a phonenumber but... you made me start thinking about this and all of a sudden I'm not so sure if I know what I'm doing....
 
8:30 AM
@rene I have that effect sometimes. Sorry about that.
 
No problem :D
 
 
2 hours later…
10:30 AM
I just passed 30K of close vote reviews ...
 
11:05 AM
@cimmanon boom
 
 
3 hours later…
2:13 PM
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@Siguza Body - Position 4175-4179: PORN
 
user4639281
2:46 PM
@rene We are trying to figure out how different versions of .NET names will appear in text. As someone who has knowledge of .NET I was hoping you would be able to help.
 
3:48 PM
+ 2 really bad answers
 
@Rizier123 its just a badly worded problem. as someone who used to write php, i would be interested in seeing how one would solve it in a not completely shitty way
 
Yam
Yam v2 started - debug.
 
then again, it is php, and everything about the language is shitty
 
4:07 PM
@cimmanon 3v4l.org/fEGrg
 
@Rizier123 that still looks like shitty phpism :p
 
@cimmanon I needed to fix OP's array, to work with it as not every element is an array in his array. But that's how I would do it
 
in haskell, one could do that as a 1-liner :p
well, most of it anyway
 
yup, but look at the other 2 posted answers. So I think ^^ that one is the best solution you can get
 
Yay 777 helpful flags
 
4:18 PM
haskell has handy functions like transpose and zip :D
 
@cimmanon yup. (Since when do you have your profile like this: "I am no longer a contributor on CR, ..." ?)
 
@Rizier123 been that way for a while now
a month i guess?
 
It's just so true :D
And it should be exactly the other way around
 
basically, some guy got himself question banned on SO and started putting his shit on CR
community decided he was a valuable member of the community, despite all of the shitty things he said to people in comments (but no one can see anymore because they were deleted)
 
My activity on SO also went down like 90% because of things like this.
 
4:23 PM
i dont think SO is that bad. there are enough people who are tired of the shit and willing to get rid of it to outweigh the people who enjoy rolling in it
 
@Rizier123 For me, it's that. Try to take some time to properly answer after carefully searching for duplicates and resources... for nothing in the end.
 
also, to add insult to injury, my one well thought out review request i posted on CR got less votes than the guy who got himself question banned and posted shitty code.
@Kyll should have posted faster! :p
 
user4639281
@Kyll Some people don't want the best answer, they just want the one that posts the exact code they need with as little explanation as possible. That unfortunately doesn't help anyone else nearly as much.
 
I already posted meta posts, but didn't changed anything: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/295501/3933332 ...
 
@cimmanon When I saw that the other answer had been posted 2 minutes before I knew what was going to happen ^^
 
4:28 PM
@TinyGiant In other words: Many users want just an answer, which they can copy&paste fast and then they are out of here
 
user4639281
@Rizier123 Exactly.
 
user4639281
But that is most definitely not what Stack Overflow is supposed to be about.
 
^ It's the one that got reopened by the guy I trolled yesterday
 
@Kyll if its any consolation, future users will likely find your answer more helpful
most of your upvotes over time will come from well thought out answers on questions with good googlejuice
 
^^ Not too sure about that.
 
user4639281
4:30 PM
Also, magic helps.
 
my top answer has a score of 72, all of those votes didnt come in one day :p
 
I posted a question related to this on Meta:
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Q: Are questions asking for data conversions without providing any implementation off-topic?

KyllSome questions have the following shape : I have data : data I need it in other format : data in other format How do I do that? No code to actually make the conversion is provided. If some code was provided then it would be a debug question ("I tried it with conversion code but I en...

Since it's not the first time I've read the "it's not too broad because it has a concise answer" thing
 
lol, stackoverflow.com/q/33054229/3933332 asked 3hours ago, and answered 3 years ago :D
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@Rizier123 wat
 
4:44 PM
It was merged, if you click on a revision from one post, but it still looks hilarious
 
user4639281
 
@Kyll it might be helpful if you provided an example question
because i think youre going to have people interpret it as something complex like data parsing and shit like that, rather than simpler cases like transposing a list
 
@cimmanon I'm not a big fan of the Meta effect rushing in when I add links to posts =/
 
well then dont post a link to the specific question. think up a similar example
 
5:04 PM
What bout now?
 
5:40 PM
Thanks @Siguza, nice answer!
 
user4639281
6:19 PM
You are saying it is helpful AND it is a bug? — pnuts 14 hours ago
 
user4639281
I know right?
 
user4639281
 
bob
6:38 PM
when a spammer complains they've been nuked:
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Q: My Stack Overflow account and all entries of the last days are gone. What happened?

mspMy Stack Overflow account and all my answers of the last days are gone. Yesterday everything was o.k. and I didn't get a notification that something happened. E.g. my answer for A simple example for implementing OAuth2.0 What did I do wrong? My comments to current state of discussion (Apr 7...

 
Nice -- I guess that fact that it ended up at -11 means folks downvoted without spam flagging?
Or maybe both
 
both
 
@josilber I tried to spam flag at -9 when it told me the post had already been deleted.
 
@Siguza It's final score was -11, so I guess it may have just not updated for you
(which will clear flags)
 
@josilber oh fuuu, it's 2 vs 2
 
6:47 PM
@Siguza It's OK -- if I gets approved I will ping the editor telling them that such edits are not OK and to flag instead.
 
6:59 PM
@josilber rejected
 
Awesome -- thanks!
 
7:24 PM
I, too, like prefacing my answers with "**********BEST ANSWER EVER****************" -- stackoverflow.com/a/33057900/3093387
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Take a moment to read through the editing help in the help center. Formatting on Stack Overflow is different than other sites. Bragging is, too. — Kyll 9 secs ago
 
:)
 
user4639281
ooooo I want to change it to worst....
 
@TinyGiant Resist the urge!
 
user4639281
It's sooooooo hard
 
7:27 PM
@TinyGiant Shog would personally smack you for doing it!
 
user4639281
It'd be a long way for him to travel.
 
True, true
 
Sam
@TinyGiant He's a floating head, he'll just fly.
 
user4639281
But idk, I probably annoy him enough already that the distance might not matter.
 
user4639281
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A: setContentView(R.layout.main); error

Cindyis this already solved? i also had this problem. I solved it just by cleaning the project. Project>Clean>Clean projects selected below>Check [your project's name]

 
user4639281
7:29 PM
Directly above it.
 
user4639281
WITH AN UPVOTE??!?!?!?!?!??!
 
@TinyGiant Prob's from OP
 
user4639281
I wish a mod would just go through and burn all the duplicate answers, seeing as we can't close the question.
 
user4639281
@Kyll Damn OP's
 
Sam
@josilber Edited.
 
7:34 PM
@Sam Good edit -- thanks!
 
Sam
(I, I just couldn't leave it in that sad state.)
@josilber Np!
 
Anyone knows RetroShare?
 
Aaaand, you got an immediate no-improvement suggested edit
 
Sam
Lol.
@josilber deep epic voice Rejected.
 
user4639281
@josilber Not no more.
 
7:37 PM
Yup!
 
user4639281
@cimmanon Boom
 
is a question that contains 1 or more unrelated questions "too broad" or "unclear"?
 
user4639281
Too Broad
 
7:53 PM
Is there any way to use SEDE to get the number of close vote reviews completed by a user?
 
user4639281
hmmmm. I'll look
 
user4639281
It looks like as soon as the question becomes closed, it removes the close vote from the votes table, either that or I haven't voted to close anything.
 
user4639281
Ohhh, no userids in the votes table.
 
user4639281
So, no
 
user4639281
But there are 1,258,550 close votes in SEDE.
 
8:10 PM
=/
 
hola
 
Sam
Hey
 
user4639281
Ello
 
anyone around for TF2?
 
Sam
Sorry, can't.
 
8:14 PM
^ Would send it to Math.SE is it wasn't smelling like crappy homework so strongly
@gunr2171 Tough for me right now
 
that's fine
 
Seeing the current availabilities of everyone on the Steam discussion we're going to have a hard time organizing stuff
 
yep, which is why I needed that info in the first place
 
user4639281
@Kyll Boom
 
Yay thanks
 
8:18 PM
@gunr2171 Usually I'd be in, but I'm currently kinda sick, so I'm going to sleep early today
 
that's fine. feel better
 
@gunr2171 I'll try my best, thanks.
 
@Siguza Remets-toi vite! =D
 
cya guys
 
@Kyll what was the suggested edit?
 
user4639281
8:19 PM
Ciao
 
Sam
Cya
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 Moving the list into a code block.
 
@gunr2171 Two capital letters and changing the list into something else, don't remember
Worthless as it gets
 
ew, yeah
well i'm out as well, on to more things to do
 
See ya!
 
Sam
8:20 PM
Cya
 
user4639281
he left before either of you said goodbye.
 
He did.
 
user4639281
Well, might as well break the editor some more.
 
Sam
@TinyGiant The magical SO unicorn messengers will send our "goodbyes" to him.
afk
 
user4639281
Oh yeah, forgot about that.
 
Yam
8:29 PM
Shutdown successful.
 
bob
am I the only one who raises custom mod flags to request retag to once the request in the question has been completed?
 
user4639281
Yes
 
bob
might ask on Meta if I should stop
I've been doing it for a while
 
user4639281
@Kyll Cimmanon boomed it before I could. :(
 
@TinyGiant totally*
You should totally*
 
user4639281
8:41 PM
Fixed
 
Yay
This is going to confuse him so much
Who's pinning down random pieces of sentence from TinyGiant now?
 
user4639281
I half expected you to comment "javascript:void(0)"
 
My touchpad is randomly going bonk. I think there is crumbs under it or the pin is slightly going off. Hesitating between opening it myself or calling support...
 
bob
new Meta question @TinyGiant
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Q: Should I stop raising custom mod flags to retag to one of the [status-*] tags?

bobWhen a question has it's request completed, I often raise a custom moderator flag to request retagging of the question to status-completed. It's the same story for status-norepo-type questions. I've been doing this for quite a while: I asked in the SOCVR Chat this: am I the only...

 
user4639281
Seriously, you're going to quote everything I say on meta now?
 
user4639281
8:49 PM
lol
 
bob
@TinyGiant Yes.
 
@bob I'm voting to close because you appear to be inconsistent in the way you write status-declined.
@bob Don't, this will get him banned and we need his votes
 
user4639281
[status-norepo] !== [status-norepro]
 
tsk tsk "it's" vs. "its"
 
bob
@Kyll anonymised
 
user4639281
8:53 PM
Taking away my limelight are you now.
 
@bob Haha now it looks very silly
 
bob
@Rizier123 Cheers for the edit.
 
I thought I bring some color into your question :)
 
user4639281
I never said not to mention my name, I just asked if you were going to be doing that every time. Kyll somehow thinks that I might get banned, but I doubt it.
 
bob
@Kyll permalinking instead
better
 
8:55 PM
Back to the light, @TinyGiant!
 
user4639281
There we go, lol
 
Ninjaing in and out
 
user4639281
So many edits, in such a short period of time.
 
bob
lol
 
I bet a mod comes by and retags your question with: status-complete :D
 
user4639281
9:00 PM
lol
 
bob
this answer is completely wrong (in the scope of the question):
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A: No edit privilege, yet moderators decline "suggested retag" flag

Robert HarveyModerators are reluctant to act as proxies for users who want to perform actions for which they haven't yet earned sufficient reputation.

 
@TinyGiant You just had to write that comment ?
 
user4639281
Couldn't stop myself.
 
bob
on OT questions that ask why something happens, we should just comment 'Magic' from now-on
Magic​​​​​​​​​​ — Tiny Giant 50 secs ago
 
^^ 3 upV's; probably all from this room
 
user4639281
9:04 PM
lol
 
Here is the real magic:
 
user4639281
Magic is always the best way to do something, and the best way to find out anything, and in general magic is just the best.
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@TinyGiant Mitigated the troll
Mental note: One day, replace this link with reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor
 
user4639281
Look at you, with your clear and concise instructions.
 
bob
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Q: Accessing attributes on literals work on all types, but not `int`; why?

Filip Roséen - refpI have read that everything in python is an object, and as such I started to experiment with different types and invoking __str__ on them — at first I was feeling really excited, but then I got confused. >>> "hello world".__str__() 'hello world' >>> [].__str__() '[]' >>> 3.14.__str__() '3.14' >>>...

@Rizier123 how and why did that happen anyway?
 
user4639281
9:07 PM
Jon Clements mergificated two questions.
 
See: stackoverflow.com/posts/33054229/revisions It was merged with another question. So that's where the answers come from: stackoverflow.com/q/10955703/3933332
 
bob
oh, merge
would've been better if the merge took the datestamp of the older question
new feature request maybe?
 
user4639281
Ooooo @Kyll you got insta-shouted.
 
user4639281
I found out that gnome has this special new feature, that they didn't tell anyone about. I thought it was a bug for the longest time. Holding [ctrl]+click in a text input allows me to enter text in multiple places at the same time.
 
user4639281
I thought it was just weird when it would start typing in multiple places for no apparent reason, but turns out it's a feature.
 
9:15 PM
@TinyGiant magic
 
user4639281
^^^ That
 
bob
I dupehammered as found a near-identical question:
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Q: Should I stop raising custom mod flags to retag to one of the [status-*] tags?

bobWhen a question has its request completed, I often raise a custom moderator flag to request retagging of the question to status-completed. It's the same story for status-norepro-type questions. I've been doing this for quite a while: I asked in the SOCVR Chat this: am I the only...

 
@bob You took that hammer and aimed for your face
The answer isn't particularly helpful though
 
bob
@Kyll moderator confirmed via comment on that answer that it's OK though
 
@bob ex-moderator though
 
bob
9:24 PM
I can cast a re-open vote if you find that my question is sufficiently different and/or requires a different answer?
@Kyll was made when he was a moderator
 
Aw, you broke the chain....
Agreed
 
9:42 PM
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Q: "Leet Reviewer" Badge

josilberIn response to large review queue sizes on multiple high-volume sites, I propose a "Leet Reviewer" gold badge that would be awarded once per calendar year based on both reviewing quantity (at least 1337 reviews that year) and quality (fail no more than k% of review audits for some reasonably smal...

 
user4639281
9:54 PM
Looks like it isn't going very well. I think it's a pretty awesome proposal.
 
i dont think badges are going to attract worthwhile reviewers, unless youre only going to reward people who pass audits
 
10:15 PM
@cimmanon Well, this badge would only be given to those who pass nearly all their audits.
 
user4639281
10:27 PM
Woo, the editor is diffing like a boss. I figured out how to split strings by multiple characters and join them the way they came apart.
 
user4639281
regex101.com/r/cW4gL1/1 You search for... the before of a character.
 
user4639281
Then you just need to join by an empty string.
 
user4639281
And you can diff like this
 
11:50 PM
I dunno, 1000 files does not reach my threshold for "a crap ton of files"
-1 for overstating the challenge
 
user4639281
A: Write a script.
 

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