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6:10 AM
@HostileFork "Can we count you in for $5? :-P" - what do you mean here? Donation? I can easily spend more, would just like to see some list of what is needed and what do I pay for ....
 
@pekr I was just saying in our "donation drive" the idea is, those who give $5 get the early videos, as they are made. :-) They will be public for everyone eventually.
It's a bit of a joke, we don't really care about the $5. But we are just hoping people would like to help with the server costs on a longer basis.
e.g $5 x 12 => $60, well, that pays for stuff, that's registrar fees and AWS bills at some point.
This good cause is good. 'cause!
$5 isn't a maximum donation, it's the minimum to get the videos. :-P As people can tell I wasn't meant to work in business.
 
6:49 AM
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A: Rebol: how to split a string into characters

sqlabDepending if you want to get single characters or strings with the length one you can use parse too with the following rules >> str: "Today is Monday" == "Today is Monday" >> collect [ parse/all str [ some [ copy x skip (keep x) ] ]] == ["T" "o" "d" "a" "y" " " "i" "s" " " "M" "o" "n" "...

 
 
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8:20 AM
@HostileFork I'll get back to you on that when the conference costs are paid off...
 
 
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12:56 PM
@rgchris However you want to do it, if you'd like that to be directed at conference costs that's fine too... engineer it how you like. Point is that people chip in some to get something.
You're the one doing the outreach, so you can set the price and send the mail.
The issue just being that if it's done with PayPal or whatever it wouldn't have the "recurrent" nature of Patreon. If you wanted to work it out with Graham to say the proceeds from the donation drive go to the conference, that might be more forward looking. I dunno.
 
1:52 PM
You can also set the donation level such that once a certain amount of money is raised the videos are public. I've often liked that idea, that what you are "buying" when you buy a thing is covering the costs of the thing, so it's free for everyone thereafter. You're not a "purchaser", you are a "sponsor". That's way cooler.
 
2:10 PM
My site was remapped in 2014; for those interested in the original URL for "Is Rebol Actually A Revolution" it was in 2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080930105940/hostilefork.com:80/2008/09/08/is-rebol-actually-a-revolution
 
3:08 PM
@salotz Welcome, ask questions if you like, e.g. about the biggest fizzbuzz ever :-)
 
3:30 PM
that is a big fizzbuzz. I could probaly find the answer to this somewhere but does the rebol3/View work on linux? I am on Ubuntu 18.04 and I get a missing libXt message even though it is installed
I promise I have more interesting things to say about rebol, just trying to run some examples
reading your reference to tiny elvis. When I read "tiny obsessed" developer opinions I always think of this guy harveybirdman.fandom.com/wiki/Myron_Reducto
the fizzbuzz is big but its also so small...
 
3:45 PM
@salotz The Atronix R3/Views are probably the way to go
@salotz We definitely welcome newcomers, but pardon the sawdust and construction tape :-) It's a work in progress...
Looks like I can copy the text out of the FizzBuzz .ai file, even without illustrator on this machine:
> COUNT-UP is a function that takes three parameters. The first is an argument whose evaluation is suppressed, so a variable name (such as n, here) is received as a WORD! as opposed to fetching the value. The second parameter is how high to iterate that variable up (from 1). Third parameter is the block of code (literal or result of an expression) to evaluate on each iteration with the variable’s updated value.
> PRINT is a layer on top of the more basic WRITE STDOUT (which only takes text and characters). It also accepts BLOCK! parameters, which it will use the SPACED operation to process—evaluating its expressions and putting spaces between those elements that don’t "vaporize" as NULL. If spacing is not desired, then one can literately do the string transformation manually with print unspaced [...]
> UNSPACED is an operation which takes a block of expressions to evaluate, and merges the results into a single string—with no spaces between them. Any expressions which evaluate to NULL will be discarded. In the case that all the elements are discarded, then the overall result of UNSPACED will be NULL as well. (Empty strings aren’t discarded, so unspaced ["" ""] is simply the empty string.)
> IF is—like all words in Rebol languages—bound to a function, and not a fixed keyword. It takes two parameters: one of which is a condition that comes from an evaluative expression. The other is a block of code which may be run if the condition is true (this is why passing it as an inert block is important). If the code is not run, the result is NULL...fitting it into the generalized NULL-triggered ELSE.
> MOD is the "enfixed" form of the prefix MODULO function. Enfixed functions are distinct because they acquire their first argument from the left hand side. There is no particular restriction on how many right hand arguments they take (if they take 0, then they’re postfix). Being able to do things like quote their left hand arguments or be variadic brings a unique creative freedom to a language of this class.
> ELSE is a "deferred enfix" operation, which is distinct from the greedy default form (giving Rebol its well known 1 + 2 * 3 = 9 outcome). This alternate mechanism gives a function on its left a chance to finish before using the result. Hence the ELSE in if false ["a"] else ["b"] doesn’t see the BLOCK!, it gets the result of the IF. When that is NULL then ELSE runs—this can be used with all control constructs!
 
I'm cool with work in progress. If it was already popular than there wouldn't be opportunites. Mostly got interested because of my research in pattern matching oriented languages and other advanced computational language features beyond the standard functional ones.
 
@salotz Rebol3's view really never took off, so what happened is that Atronix just went off and developed their own version, largely tailored for their purposes
I'm an ex-Microsoft-research guy working on the language core itself.
 
gotcha, ya there are more than a few stubs so I'm kinda sorting them out
Oh cool di you ever know Greg Meredith?
he's working on RChain now
 
No, but that name sounds familiar. I worked down the hall from Conal Elliott, and he's a person who says a lot of things. :-P
We didn't hang out, and he seemed a bit dismissive of my project, but...whatever.
Haskell is The End All And Be All, apparently.
 
I have an aversion to Haskell, I can't believe its the right level of abstraction for actually getting anything done, including proofs
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lol that gives burritos a bad name
what was your research on?
 
once you start needing category theory to do stuff your off in the weeds IMO
one thing I wanted to understand better was the execution model. Like in red how they have a JIT and AOT and interpreter etc. Thats something really unique among languages I think
That and the Internet operating system thing, like how does it compare to this: urbit.org
 
4:09 PM
@salotz I still think that's an elaborate trolling project.
That guy completely derailed a FP conference in Boulder by signing up for it.
 
I'm aware... I've never seen any problem with the ideas in theory though. he has retired from the project at this point
 
@salotz I am not the best person to ask about Red, unless you want to know what it is.
 
@HostileFork right. I am curious about what are the personal goals of what you would do with REBOL/red whatever, beyond a hobby interest in programming languages
 
@salotz Well, my website is in it. I have done other things, like USCII in it. With our webassembly build, we are having some fun, e.g. repl-test
@salotz My personal goals are really geared around education ...and code golf
 
 
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10:27 PM
So Red is going ahead with LOAD as the higher-level multi-format auto-detect-codec thing: github.com/red/code/blob/master/Showcase/last-commits2.red
So presumably they agree with the R3-Alpha "READ is just bytes".
 

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