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15:11
@Abe makes me think of youtube.com/watch?v=05hTBAOnDQE
@Muhammet Check if my answer works for you .
@Muhammet I think I found it :)
check my answer
@Kitler done with your work?
almost
came in here to ping @cimmanon
15:21
ABUSE OF PING!
I'm avoiding work as much as possible right now because I don't wanna learn VBA
why would you not want to learn VBA?
learn something useful instead :/
the more crap you know, the more you can forget xD
sorry. I've only been graduated for 6 months and all I think about is how many things they tried to teach me that I will never use again. #formatting my brain
@VictoriaS. because I don't wanna learn it?
15:25
It's a waste of time
but might get you started since you dunno programming languages
@Kitler shush
no one asked for logic
I'm always asking for logic
Make some sense, dammit! :P
My programmer colleague at work likes to think he has limited space that's being occupied by his knowledge of programming
He tells me his wife asks the phone number of some friend, and he'll go, "Sorry, I reformatted that part of my brain last week. I've got python there now."
very efficient use of brain resources if you ask me
@Neil are you sitting in my office or something? A collegue of mine thinks the same xD
@neil in a sense the brain does work like that
crl
crl
15:29
not sure
learning more stuff turns it into abstractions, so you'll forget implementation details but still know more about a subject because you understand the underlying pattern
crl
crl
I believe memory is a bit selective, what you don't like, you forget fast
that doesn't work for things like phone numbers though, your brain can't turn 10 numbers into 1 concept
I think I remembered my own cell phone number for a whole of 4 hours after I inserted it into my phone contacts
why would you remember a phone number? you got a damn cellphone, don't you
15:31
@VictoriaS. Yeah, well it's my own number
unfortunately, it's hard to forget sometjhing on purpose
xD sorry. I'll go away with my weird humor
I still know phone numbers from friends when I was like 10
In fact I'm pretty sure that if I lost my phone, only my wife would be able to tell me what it was
And that's why I have a wife
^ that's called outsourcing
15:32
she remembers what she was wearing on our wedding day down to the earrings.. I remember being extremely hot in a tuxedo on a day in july
you're hot without a tuxedo too
@StephanMuller Well thank you, that's very kind to say so
@StephanMuller actually that's exactly what it does
so that it can remember lots of disparate things; it links them together into chunks
if you can link pieces of information together, they only count as one piece of information
it's how we can remember what sentence we just read
15:34
@TylerH what do you mean?
I mean what @Neil just said
oh sorry, you misunderstood my post. I meant you cannot compress 10 different phone numbers into one abstract concept
He means, the site "lmgtfy" would be hard to remember if you didn't know it was an acronym for "let me google that for you"
Once you know that, it is easy to remember the lmgtfy
@StephanMuller it's hard to do, but not impossible
@StephanMuller oh, hmm yeah that's a bit different
though I think you probably could, if association is possible
there are plenty who remember PI to many digits, and they do so through some tricks
15:37
it's like how chess grand masters can recognize and remember hundreds of different chess board layouts, but put one piece in such a way that it couldn't have moved there by actually playing and they will have an equally hard time remembering the board as a layman
each digit lets them remember the next, but I'd bet that if you asked someone who knew PI to 100 digits what the 43rd digit was, he wouldn't have a clue
they don't remember all individual positions, they recognize patterns and remember by contextualizing/relating the positions to moves and previous games they've played
@Neil yeah, I guess that's true
still very impressive feats for a human brain to do
memory palaces are a really neat life hack
I should practice it more
I'm waiting for the day in which we'll have an organic cpu core, like the brain of a cockroach
might be that one day we'll write programs on fuzzy logic
i guess they could simulate one, but that seems horribly inefficient
15:39
@StephanMuller not sure I understand that; any piece can pretty much get to any spot on the board through playing
except bishops can't change color
@Neil why not just create a neural network out of traditional computers or quantum computers?
that "thinks" and "learns" like a brain
@TylerH pawns definitely can't
@StephanMuller true, pawns can't go back one from their starting position
programming in a few languages at about the same time is hard
but a pawn could be in any other spot on the board
must ditch php, the $ doesn't hold
15:43
@CSᵠ is that a double entendre
or are you literally just saying it's not financially worthwhile to keep working with PHP
economic has nothing in this
Something's got me beat, how do you run a query with joins and if those joins return no rows run another query (all of those being in 1 query)
> In de Groot’s most famous demonstration, he showed several players images of chess positions for a few seconds and asked the players to reconstruct the positions from memory. The experts made relatively few mistakes even though they had seen the position only briefly.
@Kitler no ping, bad ping!
15:45
that part I got right
@TylerH i'd speak in triple entendtres all the time if possible
but it has to do with how the grand masters immediately derive the best upcoming moves from that position
@cimmanon lies!
and from recognizing those moves, they could trace back their own thoughts to what the board was when they saw it
@Kitler you have IF in sql you know
15:46
> The players viewed both real chess positions and scrambled chess positions (that included pieces in implausible and even impossible locations). The expert excelled with the real positions, but performed no better than the amateur and novice for the scrambled positions (later studies showed that experts can perform slightly better than novices for random positions too if given enough time; Gobet & Simon, 1996).
still interesting though
@CSᵠ familiar with active record?
@Kitler what kind of a query are we talking about? want to do this here or on hangouts?
hangouts is better
not sure
@CSᵠ wanna join?
crl
crl
15:46
egouts are better (sewer in french)
i like skype
i can skype, too if thats preferred
@CSᵠ that would be an amazing way to live
@TylerH from what i gather, all meanings must have sense
can't skype in the office :/
15:48
that doesn't make sense, why hangout but no skype?
text chat
skype can do text
we're text chatting on hangouts :P
just hide the video part :-P
lol
15:49
sooo
miaou then?
lol
rly
why not room 29074
you have arrived at your destination.
can't share code
is "private"
15:50
ahahahahhahahahhahah
that stuff is too old
16:08
Why does my animation go back from 100% to 0%?
So from left -> right -> back to left
@MaartenWachters you need animation-fill-mode: forwards;
that's my first guess
nope
Although it stops now and doesn't teleport back to 0%
btw iteration only has one R in it
that might change something as well
Yep that fixed it
Human errors. Not even once.
hehe
16:10
Just learnt how to animate in CSS3
Having loads of fun
did it highlight the property in red?
that's usually an indicator of an error, JSFiddle is pretty good about it
It doesn't do any of that
but they just had a big update
I meant when it was misspelled
In sumblime text it doesn't
just checking in Jsfiddle now and it did infact do that
I did not know jsf did that
it is pretty useful
If you are just learning CSS animations, check out Ana Tudor's stuff
it's pretty math-intensive but lots of very cool stuff
16:12
Just taking baby steps now :p
Also lector is already at JS right now
I hate JS because I suck at it
JS is easy
And I don't mean I find it easy
I mean you'll stop hating it very soon cos you won't take long to learn it
Oh god I cannot outrun you anywhere I go
Damn it sppy
but yeah you're right
rip
Prof just said
'JS is better then C# cuz it's anarchy. Almost no rules"
I wish I could show you his face when he said that
it's true
crl
crl
16:24
Is there a way to make the browser selection background color less opaque?
(context: changing the color in a wysiwyg, selection hides everything)
@crl yes but it's prefixed
in Firefox it's -moz-text-selection
dunno about other browsers
I assume text-selection or -webkit-text-selection
did you mean selection
::-moz-selection
::selection
crl
crl
ah seen ::selection too, thanks
oh ok thanks
There is no webkit-selection, someone did the science
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Q: Has the ::-webkit-selection selector ever been supported?

Paul D. WaiteThere are a few references on the internet to ::-webkit-selection, a WebKit-specific version of the ::selection selector. See e.g. http://www.quirksmode.org/css/selection.html (Edit: PPK has since removed ::-webkit-selection from that page.) However, I haven’t been able to get the example in th...

@BoltClock are you a bot
16:27
Basically someone pulled it out of their ass, like is always done with prefixes
position: -webkit-sticky;
position: -o-sticky;
position: -moz-sticky;
position: -ms-sticky;
position: sticky;
guess which of these prefixes has ever existed
none
trick question: the last one isn't prefixed
invalid data set
ok besides the unprefixed
-ms
wrong
answer is webkit
darn
16:32
unprefixed is in Firefox
crl
crl
noice, :not(:last-child) works
@TylerH AND NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE IN WORK HERE. — Cat Plus Plus 54 secs ago
He's getting really upset
that's cat++ for you
par for the course
crl
crl
16:49
that wysiwyg is great github.com/Voog/wysihtml, just sharing, I tried many others (tinymce, cke) but they are meh to extend
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a quick ugly example jsfiddle.net/crl/foafka4a/88
@crl takes million years to load in jsfid
@CSᵠ hmmm yea, now it's 2969. XD
@BoltClock huh. i am surprised -o-sticky is a thing
@cimmanon it's fucking not
@Osmond 2969 what ?
17:03
@CSᵠ year lolz
NO
@BoltClock lol
@CSᵠ hah, it only took me 1 second
@TylerH why?
after it loaded i refreshed
and waited another million years
@BoltClock oh i misread "guess which of these prefixes has ever existed" as "has never existed"
lel
anyone ever use W3 XML validator? :/
17:05
@CSᵠ I use Firefox? I unno
same
sup @Kitler
@Osmond xml?
i did, but that was over 2 million years ago
@Osmond nth much sup
who uses xml now?
17:06
you'd be surprised at the amount of people still using xml :P
Windows apps
Blogger uses XML. -.-'
Take a gander at
Had 2 IOS devs that insisted on using xml for apis
I'm not a quick-to-move-on guy.
17:07
are you clingy
can't remember the lib they used but I remember it saying deprecated and no longer maintained in 2009
xcept 4legacy there are only stupid reasons to use that instead json
@TylerH guess so lel, even tho I'm alone.
is your avatar a wolf eye
I can't tell what animal it is
@TylerH lmfao
It's almost same like Kitler's.
17:08
stop imitating me
oh it's a cat?
ya
and Kitler, u mad bruh?
fite me
pew pew pew
gg no re
You know what gets my goat
17:11
what?
Kitler, whenever I'm not looking
crl
crl
@Kit racist :) I saw you
wat
badumtiss :P
hehe
17:11
@crl iz a joke :P
@TylerH so you have a goat?
crl
crl
I know :p
lol
@CSᵠ white man always steals goat
@Kitler so you have a goat too?
17:12
where do you think white man steals it from?
@CSᵠ well not since Kitler stole it
lol
I took bella back ok?
fine, keep her
so.. how many goats are here? />
17:13
I didn't like the texture of her wool anyway
@CSᵠ I'm the only GOAT here
is that all she is to you? wool?
greatest of all time
lol
@Kitler I mean, did you use her for something else...?
no no no
17:13
I see what you did there. :P
crl
crl
Gone On A Trip
Go Away Troll
Go On And Troll
Life Companion
you struggled to find a socially acceptable thing to say there, didn't you? :-P
17:16
you can see right through me :O
You must be a great wizard
there's only one great wizard, and he is Merlin
@Kitler no you're just a ghost
turns Kitler's opacity up to 1
there, all better
ha
ghost opacity
precisely
17:23
heading home
@TylerH jsfiddle.net/BoltClock/540cds83 if you haven't seen it yet
laters peeps
c ya
@BoltClock seen what?
I have had my own jsfiddle demo for at least a year now of sticky in action
though it's not as "real world" as that
seen my demo, anyway
17:26
Yeah your demo is cool
I have seen that behavior from position: sticky in a demo before, not sure if it was your demo or not
g'nite guys
Does anyone else get annoyed by people who search for specific tags/keywords just to edit them for edit rep
There's one guy editing out cusswords instead of flagging
Another woman editing a single tag everywhere
yeah, they shouldnt be doing that. theres meta topics about that (serial editing). if you want to get some help getting a particular user (or two) to stop, try asking in the close vote room
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Q: Serial editing in general: acceptable or not?

Your Common SenseLetting alone special cases, such as previously agreed retagging - is serial editing acceptable in general? First of all, I have a prejudice against serial editing at all. For a close watcher of couple tags, it disturbs me, when many questions gets bubbling up in numbers. It takes time to revie...

18:23
@Sippy why instead, aren't both actions allright?
Guess you're right
18:41
@Sippy flag the posts for moderator attention
@TylerH Sippy is afk: home
though the preferred option for cuss words is to just edit them out rather than flag them
if it's just instances like "why isn't my damn code working"
*fucking error*
@CSᵠ 404: Cavity not found?
thats... unfortunate
18:52
lol
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/12/02/youre-game-doesnt-work/
CommitStrip
You’re game doesnt work!
CommitStrip
1449082238
Anyone who can help me with this? :D
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Q: Select point of where ellipsis starts

RvervuurtI'm trying to create a list-view of some forumtopics, with the number of posts inside. At the moment I have a static example here. This is how I trigger the ellipsis: ul{ list-style: none; padding: 0; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: clip; white-space: nowrap; } ul li { ...

19:11
hmm
It's because of the float right, because without it, the counter just gets positioned in the behind it, but since it's overflow: hidden it's not visible
what do you need to support?
latest browsers?
How come you didn't put each section in a span?
crl
crl
19:31
!!mdn css font-size large
don't do it
crl
crl
hmm why?
it's esoteric
use numerical values that are at least relative to some explicit size, if not explicit themselves
html, body { font-size: 14px; ) everything else gets font-size: #rem; where # is like 1, 1.2, or 2, etc.
with rem you know your font-size is a multiple of the root font-size, 14px
2rem is 28px always
crl
crl
ok
19:41
and if you want everything to be a bit bigger, you can just go to your root font-size at html, body {} and change it to 15px or 16px
rem is new in CSS3, btw, so older browsers (IE8 and below) won't support it
crl
crl
yea knew rem
em can be used instead for those, but it is relative to the parent
rather than the root
crl
crl
if I wanted a + / - font size thing, should I use a list with font-size in %, px, or em/rem?
px would be less disturbing probably for a basic user
if you're letting the user control that for your admin control panel thing, then it depends
@crl you know you can find a lot of information about what unit to use for font sizes via your favorite search engine that is something other than this room
19:45
it should be relative to whatever value is used by default
so hitting + on the root element would increase by 1px
but hitting + on any other element would increase by 1rem
(or whatever increment you want)
crl
crl
ok

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