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19:00
(it is Kendall in a banana hammock)
Haha, yeah, we're just going to keep forwarding it back to each other
@rlemon yeah, we are attempting to the same pose / outfit
@mikedidthis... well.... I do have pictures of you....
!!afk putting mikes junk into a hammock
ugh... Mike or Carrie.
now i'm conflicted
Carrie is better looking than I am, do her.
I mean, not do do her, but pick her.
He said ambiguously
19:05
might have to buy her dinner first
yesssss
Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore?
hahaha!
I need to watch Archer
it's awesome
19:07
Frisky Dingo / Archer / Bobs Burgers - All worth a watch.
So is Unsupervised, but it got canned after the first season.
TV just takes up so much time
Today, I realized that I have an entire season of Suits to watch
That is true.
I watched like 5 episodes today alone
a show I had just started getting into that got canned after a season was Human Target
not the best acting but some cool scenes and cool tech
@CarrieKendall this is totally not an imgur link ID that is NSFW so I can't directly link it. /dlq0N4N
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cc// @mikedidthis @SomeGuy @Wes ^^
19:11
Hahahaha WHAT DID YOU DO
also, @CarrieKendall if you have a boyfriend. I demand you mms him that image immediately.
@SomeGuy I asked mike if I should do him or Carrie, he said Carrie
who says mms
@TylerH I DO!
Poor Carrie.
@RUJordan bro, you need to chill in here as well as JS
19:14
Yeah?
yea man. look at the room users
.... > half are in both
I didn't know y'all were regulars here also haha
This is a more relaxed room
And we can bitch about the rest of the JS room in here!
^ my rooms
On second thought, maybe you shouldn't come here, @RUJordan.
19:16
lol
Doing fluid dynamics experiments with my Cherry Coke seemed like a good idea until all of a sudden I only have like 5 fl oz left.
FINE I HATE YOU TOO
@rlemon I would totally be in more rooms if it didn't require me to switch tabs or load the rooms myself
Cherry Coke???
ewww
Hey, guys. Got a stupid question for anyone who knows a bit about HTML/CSS history.
19:16
@SomeGuy uhhh dude.
An IRC like setup for Chat would be amazing
Why do heading tags have a large top margin typically? My first thought is that it's to force more space than a typical break between paragraphs would allow (collapsed margins ensuring the break is not too large). But then why do h1 tags usually have a top margin by default? Any ideas or insight into the history of why this was established as a norm in browsers?
sidebar
@RUJordan Plus you have me <3
I know, you use the rooms on the sidebar to navigate
I don't want to have to click the rooms :p
Alt+arrows
19:17
and any rooms you have stared you have a one click "rejoin all" button
@ZachSaucier not sure how to respond to that :P
@JosephMarikle I dunno, but that is a really interesting question.
@RUJordan respect his athoriteh
honestly. dude is a CSS master
you will require his services before you know it
lol
@rlemon Oh stahp it you
ohyou.png
@RUJordan Don't listen to him
@ZachSaucier I've been doing this for over a decade. you in two years have licked my tush in CSS
@RUJordan I'm terrible
Too late, I listened
@RUJordan Listen to him
19:18
you are like the less impressive Ana Tudor
Hahahaha
lol
just gotta work on my math skills
HALP MAH CSS RIGHT MEOW
sounds like an insult. but she is just off the hook for only having gotten into coding in the last like 3 years
Jk imma pro I'm just hustlin' @rlemon
She?
Oh
Don't mind me
19:19
@RUJordan everything you say to me can be retorted with "YOU EMAILED ME YOUR FUCKING DB CREDS LIKE A NOOB!"
I TRUSTED YOU
DON'T TRUST PEOPLE WITH YOUR DATABASE AUTH!
especially considering you EMAILED it to me
@JosephMarikle @Wes do you have any idea? Or how this could be answered?
NEVER email credentials. ever...
19:21
God forbid the NSA drops my 2 tables with 5 fields :P
no but the guy sitting at the other table in the cafe while I check my email from my phone ....
@JosephMarikle I suspect it's because h tags are semantically meant to head (surprise) new sections of content. In the case of h1 this could even mean you should only use it once per page in some cases. In order to show distinction between semantically different sections of content, the h tags having padding to provide space, similar to the difference between a p tag and a br tag.
fine ill change my damn db password T_T
think about writing an essay. does your title stick to the top of the page. or does it have a nice padding.
ill txt you the password ;)
19:22
@TylerH but its a margin? and as he said, this collapses if inside another container with a margin.
@mikedidthis I assume he meant padding in a loose sense of the term
again guys. think about classic typography and print. @mikedidthis you can confirm. in print you generally always leave a margin above the header
Ahh ok.
Yeah sorry
padding = margin = space here
lets call its whitespace :D
19:23
@RUJordan when I have to give creds to someone else I usually do it via voice.
call or TS it
@mike kk :-)
Speaking of TS, @rlemon you're never on ):
@rlemon Ok. The comparison to typography makes sense. Does it just not make a difference in print because there is typically space at the top of a document then?
you gotta ping me to get me on @ZachSaucier
@JosephMarikle @mikedidthis My suspicion is that it's just for readability purposes. It's easier to tackle tasks when they are broken up into discrete pieces. Same for content; its' easier to read a page of 5 paragraphs than a page of one long one.
19:24
@ZachSaucier Just ping us to tell us
@rlemon quick, go look at the link Jan just posted
I'm dying
@rlemon phrasing
it's so funny
@JosephMarikle that is your o/s and printer - not the document.
> I am really sorry for the profanity what i meant to say is

I will find you and fuck you
19:24
ok
xD I just dont get people
People are odd
@TylerH I would buy that if it wasn't for collapsing margins: jsbin.com/roziva/1/edit
@rlemon But it's still correct to only have one h1 correct?
depends on the context.
if I had three sections to my page, and all semantically can have their own owning heading (not sure if I worded that correctly) then I would use one for all
I know it goes against shit. but i'm a rebel that way
19:26
@mike what do you mean
@JosephMarikle in the case of say.. a blog. the page title would be an h1, blog titles would be h2, headings in the blog posts would be h3. BUT that is only on the front page. on a landing page the title is most important, so the page title turns into an h3, the blog title an h1, and the headings in the post as h2's
make sense?
even if they are all looking the same. I'm doing that for screen readers and bots. ^^
> "the expression collapsing margins means that adjoining margins (no non-empty content, padding or border areas or clearance separate them) of two or more boxes (which may be next to one another or nested) combine to form a single margin."
@rlemon Yes, that does make sense
@JosephMarikle there are many (some conflicting) articles on how to use semantic HTML in 2014 (avoid any articles earlier than 2012).
just start googling how others are doing it, and pick a method that makes sense to you
@mikedidthis I know what those words mean, but when you put them together in that order like that...
19:30
@TylerH ha, I didn't I stole it.
I see so many people disagree with me on the subject. but on the other hand a lot agree with me. So I think we (as an industry) are kinda on the fence about the entire thing
Oh thank god, pictures
:-)
Iknowright.
@Wes taught me about it.
@TylerH Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
19:32
@SomeGuy I actually tried to understand that for a good 10 seconds -_-
Reminds me of that xkcd comic posted earlier
So in summary, It is probably best for browsers to render them similarly for consistency sake. I don't think there is anything in the W3C that specifically states there should only be one. It's in order of importance, so if you have to equally important headings (just a hypothetical) they could coexist as siblings. This isn't practical, however because of search engines, screen readers, etc. I could be wrong about all that, but it does at least make sense why browsers opt for consistency.
about easily disabled brains
@mikedidthis It's this meme. We had lots of fun with it in the JS room long ago
We pretended like that sentence made complete sense and fooled Octavian into believing that he was just having a brainfart XD
Good times
19:34
@JosephMarikle Personally I don't think it has anything to do with SEO, I presume its a design choice. Web pages were just text orientated markup, so margins were needed.
@mikedidthis I've always kind of seen collapsing margins as a minimum speed limit kind of thing; take the highest value and make sure at least that much margin is applied. Obviously that's a bit excessive as there will never be more than the highest value applied; that would be paradoxical.
@SomeGuy the sad thing is, that's about how comprehensible much of the documentation on CSS is on the web.
Haha
You read it quickly one time and there are enough words strung together in a way that makes sense that you think "oh, I just need to read it more carefully", and then upon closer inspection it's actually just jibberish
@rlemon ^
jibberish
Thanks for all the insight, guys. This is why stackoverflow is such a great community :D
19:36
your comprehension level of the content goes down the more you read it.
Yeah, that happens
In my experience, it's just been me not knowing enough to understand everything :p
@SomeGuy huh?
Until eventually you're left with: "ughhhh computers" facedesk
He said jibberish. Like gibberish
But Jithubbified
lul Jithub
19:38
it is "gibberish" but pronounced "jibberish"
Yeah, that's what I called Github
@SomeGuy, just to fuck with you
@SomeGuy you say jithub?
I used to
@SomeGuy he just spelled if phonetically
19:39
@rlemon I know, I just found it funny. English is a bitch
yes, yes it is
and a heartless one to boot
I do say jif though, re: .gif
I used to say jif as well
jif reminds me of "jiffy lube"
so I never say "jif"
@rlemon not the worst picture i've seen of myself, oddly enough
19:40
sees @CarrieKendall :hides:
@CarrieKendall do you have a significant other?
@CarrieKendall fancy sharing it with the room?
if you do: send that to him/her
if you do not: send it to your mother saying "the operation was a success!"
that's my birthday suit
i usually shave before photoshoots, but i was unprepared on this one
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@CarrieKendall much easier to skin match to Borat then it was to skin match you to a black man
oh, what's that @mike? you want edit review privileges? +1
19:42
lol
@CarrieKendall noooooooo don't do it!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
@mikedidthis I'm driving the bandwagon, hop on
le derp
uhh
Downvoting isn't going to make it go away is it?
19:46
> 17s
reviewed Reject suggested edit on Compass is very slow to compileā€¦ how do I track down the cause?
nope
all that responsibruleteh
> responsibruleteh
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@CarrieKendall I thought we were friends?
19:49
My new favourite word
37 mins ago, by rlemon
@SomeGuy I asked mike if I should do him or Carrie, he said Carrie
some friend you are ;]
@CarrieKendall I hear butt sex hurts XD
@mikedidthis i'm gentle
that's what they call it these days
19:54
Well thanks for the rep people :/
oh that event is still going on?
@rlemon cute, but I can't / won't get it.
The accepted answer points to my answer ffs. :D
@rlemon how did that abb/carrie picture turn out
@mikedidthis he can assign it to a specific answer
19:58
47 mins ago, by rlemon
@CarrieKendall this is totally not an imgur link ID that is NSFW so I can't directly link it. /dlq0N4N
@mikedidthis I decide who I award the bounty to mate
@TylerH ahh.
doesn't matter that there is an accepted answer or not
seriously why the hell is that other guy's answer the accepted one
24 hours and you get a free 150 rep
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
19:59
@PatsyIssa u like?
Sadly happens a lot with the Tumblr tag.
I can arrange a personal meeting if you'd like.
great success
I am a man of many strange talents.
*many useless strange talents.
20:00
no I have many useless facts. My talents are here to impress and entertain
ughhhhh > Todayā€™s launch has been scrubbed due to a Helium leak on Falcon 9ā€™s first stage.
@SomeGuy b/w just watched GOT and =D
Can they just make spaceships that work already? jeez
it's 2014
I am addicted to fact books like Guinness and Bathroom Readers
at least the blood moon can't be canceled tonight
20:02
tonight's mood
@TylerH I'm sure Obama will do something to fuck it up
v
Thanks, Obama
Sucks that the eclipse can only be seen in the states
I'm close enough
it can be seen outside of the states
according to Neil Degrasse Tyson, it will be visible to billions of people
I assume he is somewhat informed on such matters
20:05
lat wise, I'm almost directly between Portland and Sacramento
you're so far west rlemon
@TylerH I meant long.
my bad
@TylerH didn't he say north and south america ?
@PatsyIssa I only saw the tweet mentioning "billions and billions of people"
wait.. now i'm confusing myself.
20:07
let me check
@SomeGuy you are a smart ass. what do I mean. lat or long
@rlemon oh, you were right I was wrong
latitude = flatitude
I was just thinking longitude
because you named two western coast cities
where I am in Ontario is further south than most realize.
@PatsyIssa ahh, that explains it
tonight we will see
> Error establishing a database connection
just keep refreshing
Server isn't able to keep up with traffic
20:09
but then I just get light grey o.O
F5F5F5 <- the most refreshing color
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@mikedidthis pretty sure you contributed to my rep gain when i got close
rep whore till you get 7-8K rep - then let the rest trickle in
/what I did
is that assuming we want mod tools?
yes
mod tools are fun
20:11
i already am mind blown with the queues i have access to
seeing deleted content is the best thing about it
ah, yeah that'd be nice
@CarrieKendall I may have done :D
20:24
in EcmaScript, 50 secs ago, by SomeKittens Ux2666
http://phorque.github.io/4/
hah
20:47
haahhaha
Damn @rlemon
you arent far at all from MI
I always think you are so far away idk why
probably because my mom is way the eff up north
Any bootstrap guru's know of a way to add .right only to non-mobile resolutions? Removing it for mobile ones, etc would also work.
wut
I just got a bunch of pings for this guy chat.stackoverflow.com/users/403965/zach
didn't know catalonia had it's own domain
.cat () is a sponsored top-level domain intended to be used to highlight the Catalan language and culture. Its policy has been developed by ICANN and FundaciĆ³ puntCAT. It was approved in September 2005. History Before .cat was available, and given the reluctance of certain Catalan institutions, companies, and people, to use .es, .ad, .fr, .it domains (depending on the state respectively) for their domains, alternatives emerged. An example of this was the website for the city of Girona in Catalonia, which preferred to use a .gi domain ("http://www.ajuntament.gi/", the word "ajuntament" me...
hey, .cat is more deserving than .gop...
20:58
hey all
@KevinMurphy Sup!
@mikedidthis hey man! not much. working on a tumblr theme for myself and i'm so close yet i can't figure something out
how's it going, by the way?
Good thanks.
@TylerH went to check - WTF?

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