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9:00 PM
@SecondRikudo Internet Explorer (in the past) was so tightly integrated with windows that updating by any other means other than Windows Update was pretty much impossible. With Spartan we're changing that architecture to allow out-of-band updates, etc.
 
@JonathanSampson That's good. Because no one really updates their windows
You really want to set a good default on this one.
 
i see - so less libraries more minimalist code to do the minimum of what you need done = increases load times. Drawback Consumes more coding time to accomplish tasks.
 
@SecondRikudo In recent years, we've been forcing updates where able.
 
@KeyboardWarrior how did the interview go!
 
@Phreak On the contrary, less code = less bytes = decrease load times (site loads faster)
Also, in jQuery's case, you don't get a significant hit on coding time either.
It used to be the case when you had to support IE6/7/8 in your code
 
9:03 PM
@SecondRikudo pls no, just send an assassin. The redwood trees are too beautiful
 
jQuery is very light-weight, and modular today. So if you don't want all of it, you just run a custom build.
 
but while the assassin is there, have them visit EA headquarters too
 
@SecondRikudo my apologies i meant to say decreases load times.
 
@JonathanSampson I argue that in 2015, you don't want jQuery in production.
In a time where IE8 is 2% usage and mobile is nearing the 50%, you want to set your priorities straight.
 
@SecondRikudo DOM disparities and browser quirks still exist in 2015 :)
 
9:05 PM
@JonathanSampson Hardly.
And those one in a thousand edge cases are not something I'd want to include another library for.
 
@SecondRikudo ...I spend my day living this reality :) I work on a browser.
 
Add another 100ms of load to my page.
 
They are far more common than "one in a thousand" - we've been building Project Spartan based on thousands of observations of browser differences.
We have literally shipped over 3,000 interop commits to Project Spartan alone.
 
@JonathanSampson Eventually, all browsers implement document.createElement similarly (not under the hood, but they all implement the contract correctly).
 
@JonathanSampson You are also on the spartan team?
 
9:07 PM
All browsers implement document.QS and document.QSA correctly
 
Or is it all the same thing behind the scenes?
 
@JonathanSampson how does one join the revolution
 
@SecondRikudo Not always the case. And until it is, you'll need polyfills/shims/libraries like jQuery to normalize the experience :)
 
Those alone are about 80% of all jQuery interactions :P
 
@PeeHaa I am on the Web Platform team in OSG; we build the guts of IE/Spartan.
 
9:08 PM
@JonathanSampson Have yet to find a quirk with QS or QSA, but I'll take your word for it.
 
@JonathanSampson osg?
 
@SecondRikudo Still not the case; we had to ship an interop change for querySelector(All) to align with some Chrome-code.
 
lol
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Q: Firefox doesn't display font awesome [Not a duplicate!]

U r s u sUPDATE This is not a duplicate of the question above because the following doesn't apply to my case I'm using bootstrap and I added font awesome through Less, overriding the Glyphicons. (from the question I've allegedly duplicated) I know the question has been asked before: here and h...

 
Operating Systems Group.
 
Since the day I stopped using jQuery altogether I'm a happier man, and I test my code on all browsers, DOM included, with Karma + Browserstack
 
9:09 PM
That still tells me nothing :P
Do you do something with computers? Because I have a printer here that doesn't work :P
 
Jukka K. Korpela dupe hammers tons of stuff that isn't dupe
 
@CarrieKendall dupehammer it back.
Also flag/bring it up in meta
 
and it is generally dupe linked to his own content
oh, he also downvoted me on a dupe answer (although i'd say it wasn't a dupe) for a typo
 
@JonathanSampson You people do basically everything web (browser) related?
 
@SecondRikudo Not using jQuery is okay - when it's okay :) But if you want to work for a large company, you'll need to consider supporting Internet Explorer 7 and/or 8. Microsoft alone has invested hundreds of thousands of developer hours alone creating things like Enterprise Mode that rescue Enterprise customers from their IE 8 dependency.
 
9:11 PM
@SecondRikudo Hah, all your base are belong to @Mr.Alien now
 
@PeeHaa Yes. All JavaScript, CSS, HTML and APIs - that's my team :)
 
Since he works at Browserstack
 
coolio
 
I <3 Browserstack :)
 
@JonathanSampson Well, like I said. If you need to support IE 7/8, jQuery is for you.
My life became a lot happier since I stopped caring about those.
(No offense :P)
 
9:12 PM
No offense taken :)
 
how would that be offensive
 
@CarrieKendall I have no idea which of those projects he was involved in.
@JonathanSampson TBH it's not IE all of us rage about.
 
I also have contributed to jQuery :)
 
@SecondRikudo Yeah, it's Netscape
 
It's users with windows XP that won't upgrade, or "enterprise" companies with crappy IT systems that are stuck in the 80s
 
9:13 PM
@SecondRikudo It's far more complicated than that :)
 
@JonathanSampson Right, it's also governments that MS paid off :P
 
@JonathanSampson oh, nice. i guess by the transient property, you've also contributed to javascript then, jquery's subset
3
 
I can assure you that we don't want anybody on old versions of Windows or Internet Explorer :)
That's why we've spent so much time, money, and effort making a way out of legacy IE dependencies.
 
@JonathanSampson I can believe that. It doesn't invalidate my last argument though :P
 
It's why we're giving Windows 10 away absolutely free.
 
9:15 PM
@JonathanSampson Absolutely free*
 
@JonathanSampson For a year. To Win7 users and up :-)
 
(and to Raspberry Pi 2 users)
 
@CarrieKendall Ha ha :)
 
@JonathanSampson Microsoft's approach is exactly the opposite from Apple's on this issue
 
9:15 PM
@TylerH Yup. Pretty darn good if you ask me :)
 
Microsoft sells software, Apple sells hardware.
 
@CarrieKendall I don't know why they made JavaScript so convoluted and verbose when jQuery was already so great and elegant
 
When you buy an Apple product, you pay for the metal you leave the store with, the OS costs pennies
It's the computer that counts, not the OS (Apple's approach)
 
@JonathanSampson yeah, it is. Wish you guys would make your OSes free after you stop official support though.
 
MS's is the opposite, it doesn't matter which PC you take, it our software that counts.
 
9:17 PM
@TylerH We have free VMs on modern.ie ;)
 
For that reason, Windows will never truly ever be "free"
 
I mean truly free
 
@SecondRikudo That approach is what lead to Microsoft's success, and Apples near collapse ;)
Today we're in a different world though; a world where the OS matters less.
 
stackoverflow.com/a/26722265/998328 is the answer that Jukka dv'd if anyone cared
 
@JonathanSampson Are you living in the same year as me? :P
 
9:17 PM
@joshhunt Sorry about that, I had to leave as I was in the library at that moment
 
@JonathanSampson For that I really love you people. I hate you having to need it, but I love you for modern ie
 
@joshhunt I'm trying to host it through MAXCDN.
 
after that, i just try to stay away from tags he whores for the simple fact that he'll dupe to his own content and is rude
 
@CarrieKendall little more than "a typo" ;-)
 
not really, i wrote it with really no testing as i was on mobile :)
 
9:18 PM
@JonathanSampson MS improved a lot since the CEO switch
 
also, it easily deserves +1 for stack snippets on mobile
 
But it was on a steady decline before that (so it was a smart move)
 
@SecondRikudo To be fair, a lot of what is happening today started under the last CEO.
 
@JonathanSampson I just think if you're not selling XP anymore then there's no point in not giving it away for free (replace XP with any OS version you can't buy anymore)
 
@Brain then why don't you just put a link to it? <link href="//maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.3.0/css/font-awesome.min.css" rel="stylesheet">
 
9:19 PM
@SecondRikudo That being said, Satya is incredible, and has made serious improvements internally that don't reach the public world yet.
 
@SecondRikudo let's work to forget that women pay gaffe Satya made
 
He regularly hosts in-person Q&A sessions where anybody can ask him anything, face to face. Pretty amazing.
 
@joshhunt I have but it's not showing up.
 
@TylerH I honestly don't give a crap if my CEO bangs goats, as long as he brings the company to financial success.
 
@TylerH it just came out wrong, his intentions were right I think
 
9:20 PM
@joshhunt and I have no idea why it's not working at this point
 
@JonathanSampson wow, that's more interaction than my boss two offices away :(
 
That's his job, and that's the amount of interaction I have with him.
 
@Brain Does putting <span class="fa fa-flag"></span> work?
 
@TylerH XP has expired... you wouldn't feed your children something that will almostly certainly make them violently ill would you? :)
 
i prefer less interaction with bosses but that's hard when u share an office with them- ear phones are a good investment.
 
9:21 PM
the moral of the story is.. don't feed your children windows xp
 
@JonathanSampson so yeah, back to jQuery. I think there's a time where a company needs to choose between 3% usage of IE8- or 50% usage of mobile users.
You can't (sanely) have both.
 
@joshhunt no it's not showing up.
I am working on it locally, but I can throw it online and you could possibly take a look at it?
 
sure
also check the dev console and see if there are any errors
 
@joshhunt
 
@SecondRikudo You have to have both sometimes - you should go and intern with a few large companies that have intranet and internet applications :)
 
9:22 PM
one moment please
 
@JonathanSampson Yeah, I'd really rather not.
 
jquery is bloated our e-commerce site is suffering since it was heavily built using jquery
 
@SecondRikudo Don't blame you; but take my word for it :) It's a far more frazzled world that we sometimes realize.
 
I worked in the IDF for 4 years, and I pushed my base to use Windows 7 and IE8
 
@SecondRikudo You did leave them with php 3 right? :)
 
9:24 PM
Before that we were all XP and IE6 (and most of the IDF still is)
@PeeHaa haha, no. Open Source is not secure because everyone can read the code.
So PHP is not allowed.
 
!!afk i guess i should work on something besides SO today :(
 
:P
 
I'm not joking about this.
@JonathanSampson I had enough crap from Sharepoint for life, thank you very much.
And all our intranet applications are my current (admittedly small) company uses sane web technologies.
And like I said, since the day I realized I can just choose to ignore all of that crappy part of the world, and just do what I like, I became a much happier man :)
 
I am a fan of writing minimal code that will work everywhere. If you can do that, no harm in avoiding libs/frameworks :)
 
"What's that you say? The site doesn't load in IE8? Tough."
 
9:27 PM
I just have to share this: An acquaintance of mine likes to sew historical clothing. She makes them in all sizes, most of which she is too large for herself so she got another model:
 
Problem solved :D
 
That is a man^
 
hello
 
@Gemtastic WTF
 
 
9:28 PM
in JavaScript, 4 mins ago, by rlemon
I'm on example.com/foo/bar and I want to post to example.com/foo/bar/fizz but I don't want to include the /foo/bar business
 
Anyway I can get a better color picker
 
@Phreak What some guys don't do for love
 
action="fizz" or action="./fizz" isn't working :(
 
that one is so ugly
I see screenshots of people using nicer ones
 
@rlemon fizz should just work
 
9:29 PM
but it isn't :(
 
Check again what you are doing
:P
 
I have
	<form action="fizz" method="post">
		<button>logout</button>
	</form>
mah logout isn't working!
 
@rlemon And where does that post to?
 
@rlemon Problem is elsewhere
 
example.com/fizz
 
9:30 PM
Look at network tab in console
@rlemon that seriously doesn't make any sense.
 
^ that
 
I KNOW! THAT IS WHY IM GOING INSANE!
 
Unless you're on example.com right now (or maybe the form is in an iframe)
 
@joshhunt I got it to work now that it's online:
See link: http://theme1.alextaghavi.com/#services
It's right above The header: Services
 
I don't agree with @SecondRikudo often, but in this case I do
 
9:31 PM
@joshhunt
 
@PeeHaa #highhfive
 
o/
 
@rlemon you don't have a redirect in there do you?
 
@joshhunt, but what i don't understand is why it's not working locally.

I have XAMPP on and Apache Webserver is running
 
9:32 PM
@rlemon Do you have a deployed example?
 
@rlemon just to logout?
 
@rlemon turndownforwhat
 
@joshhunt e.g. Bootstrap is linking fine to MAXCDN and I am working locally as well on it.
But for some reason font-awesome is not.
Any ideas?
 
@SecondRikudo don't have anything else in this project that posts aside from login
*yet
 
9:33 PM
@rlemon No, I mean, ./logout -> logout
 
@rlemon I just tested on some random form I have. And it does the same
 
@SecondRikudo same
 
@PeeHaa wut?
 
like, is this no longer possible? what the crap?
 
@Brain what happens when you run it locally? Do you have a font called FontAwesome installed on your system?
 
9:34 PM
Let me fire up a proper demo to be sure I didn't fuck up again
 
@rlemon No repro
@PeeHaa
<form action="./logout" method="post">
    <button>Logout</button>
</form>
gets me to http://localhost:63342/playground/logout properly.
 
well what the flying fuck :(
 
@rlemon For shits and giggles. Can you try with a trailing slash in your addressbar?
 
@joshhunt, i just installed the gem like this: $ gem install font-awesome-sass
And I added the MAXCDN in the <head>

But What I really want is to make it work with Sass
@joshhunt Those are the only two steps I took
 
@PeeHaa That might actually be it...
 
9:37 PM
@PeeHaa what do you mean?
 
@rlemon start at users/
 
chrome does that.
 
@rlemon No it doesn't,
 
afaik
 
not according to your SS anyway
 
9:38 PM
where?
I'm so confused right now
 
In your address bar you now have domain.com/some/path
 
@JonathanSampson that's a fallacious argument :-)
 
grrr, dammit.
 
change it to http://domain.com/some/path/
 
how do I do that with node then?
 
9:39 PM
@rlemon Start at http://localhost:8080/users/
 
@rlemon Just uninstall node and install php. It's the easiest way to do this :P
 
how about you ead
 
You can easily do work in XP without getting sick. Not only for production uses but also as a tinkering tool for learning and the spirit of open source
 
sounds like a plan :P
 
:)
 
9:40 PM
fuck
 
Good fuck or a bad one?
 
fuck fuck fuck that is the stupidest thing i've ever seen
I'm done for the day
fuck this bullshit
 
So a good fuck?
 
:P
It thinks your last path segment is a file instead of a dir?
 
9:41 PM
return res.redirect('/admins/'); // I have to put this bullshit trailing slash because browsers fucking suck.
 
just typing so it gets rid of the asterix on the tab don't mind me its just annoying
 
@rlemon Well in all honesty you should use doc root relative URIs anyhow :)
 
@Brain Not sure sorry
 
I'm using nodes router to route based off access
 
@rlemon XD
 
9:42 PM
app.use('/users', users);
 
@joshhunt, no problem. Thanks anyway
 
@rlemon I hope users is an instance of Router
 
so in my users routing file I just have router.post('/logout', function(req, res) {})
 
And not a callback
 
it is, don't worry
 
9:44 PM
@rlemon Well, doesn't router.get('/', (req, res) => {...}) automatically takes of the slash for you?
I find it weird that I've never encountered this problem
 
@SecondRikudo idk.
it's all bullshit! bullshit I tell you!
 
@rlemon Do you currently have one of those?
 
yes
 
@TylerH I don't think it is... the unpatched vulnerabilities of XP will become more broadly known and targeted. Why give people an OS that will almost certainly result in pain and suffering today?
 
omg are we still talking about xp that archaic system
 
9:47 PM
@TylerH Not to mention we couldn't open-source XP since it may lead to more sophisticated attacks against modern versions of Windows.
 
everyone but the IRS shoulda upgraded
 
Note here that I speak as a lay-person :)
 
@Phreak Don't forgot about all those innocent atms :)
 
@PeeHaa oh god really?
 
I was pleased to hear that if you don't run as Administrator, nearly all of the known exploits wouldn't affect you.
 
9:49 PM
You realize that "An attacker knowing how my code works is a weakness" is a Really Bad Thingâ„¢
 
@Phreak Really
 
@JonathanSampson Put all the warnings you want on it, I still think it should be on us to protect ourselves if we use it as our main OS
 
@TylerH Heh, you're forgetting who the majority of Windows' users are.
 
I think if such a policy were adopted then Windows would only become a stronger/better OS
 
@TylerH I agree with you - but when you have a massive international company that is targeted by thousands for various reasons, silly and all, you have to be more cautious :)
 
9:51 PM
I don't think it really applies if it's just hosted on some repository somewhere, like github
and in a case of bitter medicine, maybe it's better if new attack vectors against older OSes that aren't supported anymore force those few holdouts to upgrade
bottom line is I'm a tinkerer, we need to be able to tinker with more software
 
@TylerH Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great move. I just don't think that MS has the energy/time(/balls) to pull off such a move.
 
@TylerH You wouldn't be forcing "holdouts" to upgrade, you would be subjecting them to encryption-based ransom tactics, exposing their banking credentials and possibly causing them financial distress, leaving personal information and more. You could really destroy a person by "gifting" an unsupported OS to them.
 
There are entire governments with entire (critical)) systems written for IE6 and would break the moment they upgrade
 
@JonathanSampson If they go out of their way to find, download, and install the old free version, the onus of defending against all those threats should be on them
 
@TylerH What about those still using the old paid version?
 
9:54 PM
@SecondRikudo Unless they use something like Enterprise Mode. We recently had over two-dozen representatives from large corporations/government groups visit the Redmond campus with their intranet apps. Enterprise Mode removed ~99% of their barriers to upgrading.
 
They'd be exposed to all of these threats too.
 
@SecondRikudo are they paying for extended support?
if not, then there's no special case here
 
@TylerH Don't know, and gladly don't care.
 
@TylerH Well people can already go out of their way to find XP, download, and install it. And the onus is on them at that point :) But if Microsoft is giving it to them, for use, it's another story.
 
they're on an old OS, it's no longer supported, tough
@JonathanSampson I don't think the story changes at all really :-)
 
9:55 PM
I'm not a lawyer though, and don't know all of the concerns, but I trust that they are wise in the decisions they make :)
 
@Vader
hi
 
yes
 
Although @JonathanSampson did mention the possibility of exposing vulnerabilities in newer systems if XP code were to be released, @TylerH
 
wb
 
thanks
 
9:56 PM
@SecondRikudo you know my answer to that
 
@TylerH No, enlighten me
 
patch the newer system
 
@TylerH You've got to step back a moment, and understand that there is a world far more different than you and I live in. While I feel that Microsoft could give XP out for free to hackers (classic sense), I don't want to be naive and assume that they could do so easily.
 
@JonathanSampson I'm fully cognizant of the complexities of business decisions and the fact that the world is a many and varied place
this is just a philosophical difference
tabs vs spaces
poutine vs real food
hides from rlemon
 
poutine isn't real food
it is too good to be real. it is a magical food from the gods
 
9:59 PM
@TylerH When I joined Microsoft I found myself having to admit my ignorance more often than I was comfortable doing. When you talk to the lawyers and understand what they deal with, you learn to just assume that the simplistic image in our mind is just that... and simplistic misjudgment :)
 
nope, you can't edit bomb it
you said what you said
lol
 
wired.com/2015/02/… and articles like this make me sad
 
I remember when we talked about shipping support for -webkit- prefixes in Windows Mobile. I was staunchly against it.
 
also, TABS is far superior
 
But, when you look at how it doubled our pass-rate, I couldn't argue with the data.
 
10:00 PM
Don Quixote, my friend
 
@JonathanSampson this is a problem I've seen in a lot of businesses
Instead of making "the right decision" a business tends to take "the lesser evil decision"
 
@TylerH me as well, considering I make a living producing high tech farm equipment :?
 
@SecondRikudo The problem was with the web - people stopped using standards and starting using -webkit-*.
So while we supported linear-gradient, nobody was using it. They all used -webkit-linear-gradient. So we had to adapt to the web.
 
@JonathanSampson Not really
 
Yes, really :)
 
10:02 PM
It's up to the web developer to make his app be supported in platforms
It's up to the web vendor to adhere to the standards
 
Unfortunately with huge companies there are business people who make those decisions
 
Everything would have been so much simpler if everyone were just minding their own business and doing their roles in this :P
@TylerH That.
 
so developers don't get to do the best thing
 
@SecondRikudo We did follow the standards - but the developers weren't opting into the standards. That's the problem.
 
!!afk home time
 
10:04 PM
@TylerH When these so called business people ask me how it's possible that after 2 years of development on my own projects I still deliver features in under a week
 
case in point: my company's IT department has almost no say in how much it can offer for any of the various developer positions it has open
 
I tell them "I don't do evil, and I'm not driven by business decisions"
 
it's all up to HR and business people
 
Out of that week, approximately 2 days are spent on actually writing it
 
@SecondRikudo With all due respect, I think you are not fully grasping the state of this industry.
I've been building for the web for 20 years, and it's not as simple as you're suggesting.
 
10:05 PM
the other 3-4 days are spent writting tests (good ones)
@JonathanSampson Keeping it simple works for me.
 
@JonathanSampson yeah what's up with all these people using CSS3?! It's only an editor's draft!
:-P
 
I honestly and full heartedly don't give a damn about the state of the industry. Keeping it simple just works.
 
@SecondRikudo Didn't you say that you arbitrarily through out IE 8? That's not keeping it simple, that's keeping it broken :)
@TylerH CSS3 is in good shape :) On to Level 4!
 
@SecondRikudo I wouldn't say Full heartedly... after all, you have 64K rep on Stack Overflow :-)
 
@JonathanSampson Nope, that's giving up on 5% of the users (generally less in my case, my application isn't really general audience kind of thing, so yey for me), for the sake of investing more in the rest of the 95%.
It's not wise for me to double up my development time or hurt my performance for less than 5% of the audience.
My time and money is better spent on the sane 95%
It's just that simple.
 
10:07 PM
@JonathanSampson while we're on the subject, you should use your clout to dump the "fast" and "complete" profiles so that I can use :has() in CSS :-) Pretty please
 
I'd rather ship out features in a week for 95% than in a month for 100%.
 
And I will name my first huge product success Sampsonite after you
!!afk time to go home
 
@TylerH bye :)
 
@SecondRikudo I understand; but the moment you start thinking globally, and realizing just how big and important 5% can be, you'll hopefully see the issue differently.
Of course, I'm granting you the 5% number - there are far, far more people using old IE than 5%.
@TylerH Ciao :)
 
@JonathanSampson I'm looking at global usage data, and it's actually less than 5% for all IE8- combined.
But I guess that's changing with your target audience.
If you're making an intranet application for some mega company, you'd have 99.9% IE usage, that's not a real-world scenario.
 
10:11 PM
Fuck the 5%!
<join the 95%!
Occupy SO
 
I think we should just make websites that serve ascii images
Like this: asciimation.co.nz
 
Is that the entire movie?
 
not sure but its pretty amazing
 
must have been quite time consuming
 
10:17 PM
worth
 
@Vader Some people have much too much free time on their hands.
 
it coulda been a class project
 
we all have the same amount of time
we just choose to prioritize different things
 
@Vader no, it's just 1 scene
you can get it for your console too
@SecondRikudo you have tools to make things as well
 
10:42 PM
posted on February 10, 2015 by Chris Coyier

Ana Tudor produced dozens of beautiful examples, all with just a single <input type="range">. We've covered the how-to before, but Ana goes deeper adding useful functionality and using new uncharted stuff like /deep/. Direct Link to Article — Permalink… Styled Range Sliders is a post from CSS-Tricks

 
@joshhunt depends on your definition of "free time"
we all have the same amount of time, but "free time" already implies priorities
 
true, but we decide how much "free time" we have
 
we also decide whether or not we want to feed our children this week
 
@StephanMuller I never feed my children
 
agreed
btw you have a child/children?
 
10:48 PM
same here zach, I like 'em skinny
no, but you get my drift
 
yeah yeah was just checking
 
btw how's your music discovery going?
 
@Phreak miss me?
 
@StephanMuller not sure who you're talking to
 
@ZachSaucier josh, if I'm correct he was the one who had never heard music until he was in his teens and asked for recommendations a while back
 
10:56 PM
@rlemon i do :)
 
@StephanMuller well I listened to a lot of the classics that you guys listened, haven't found anything new that I've liked in a couple of months though
 
@joshhunt do you listen to the songs in the JamExchange room?
 
not really, if they were in a playlist I would
 
@rlemon may be able to use the YT API to whip up a way to do that
 
do what?
ohh a playlist
 
11:00 PM
add songs posted in JamExch. room to a YT playlist
 
that would be very handy
@StephanMuller This is what has been suggested to me so far: tny.cz/a5b8f9b4/…
 
okay drive back home ttyl
 
gha, I hate having to register apis
just give me a open public api
it is 2015. you can figure it out (the inherent abuse issues)
 
agreed
 
well if you ever need more recommendations based on the music you did like, you know where to find us
 
11:10 PM
What I like most in no particular order, not sure if my genre names are correct so I've put in examples:
Singer-songerwriter (Adele, 3 Doors Down)
Soul (Seal)
Soft rock (Queen, Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers)
Some rap (Eminem, Lewis & Maclemore)
Also at one point I tried listening to spooky music while working and then suddenly realized that my subconscious was getting very agitated and on edge, it was a strange experience
 
11:56 PM
Hey guys
 

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