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8:07 PM
BBC would like to announce that: The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@Scratte They always say, save the best for last.
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Not sure what you're referring to, but it sounds like an AOC reference.
 
But no one is going to wait to nominate until they are 94
 
To be fair, a single meme to make a point is a bit different from talking in emojis.
 
@ElectionBot help
 
Examples of election FAQs I can help with:
- what is an election
- how to nominate myself
- how to vote
- who should I vote for
- how is candidate score calculated
- what is my candidate score
- what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
- what is the election status
- when is the election starting/ending
- when is the next phase
- how many positions are elected
- who are the candidates
- who are the current mods
 
8:13 PM
what is my candidate score
 
@ouflak You are not eligible to nominate yourself in the election as you do not have at least 3000 reputation. Your candidate score is 16 (out of 40). Work harder!
 
@CodyGray I don't know if this is true, and at this point this is way too surreal for me to even start grasping at the situation news.knowyourmeme.com/news/…
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I see you.
 
what did I do?
 
Fancy-dancy editing powers :P
 
8:16 PM
"Work harder!"?!?.. ElectionBot! That's not nice..
 
Thanks! You're awesome!
 
You think people want to get elected just to destroy spam ?
 
@Scratte Joke candidates weren't allowed in previous years, either, unless maybe you count the very first election ever. And, heck, that one says explicitly it is a serious nomination! What more could you want?
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier I lied. I cannot even make sense of that.
 
@CodyGray So all Tamas had to do was say "This is a serious nomination"?
 
norsureifserious.jpg
 
8:17 PM
Given the person... I think they were serious.
It's a known whackadoodle.
 
As in serious serious? :) Or seriously unserious?
 
Seriously scary.
 
I have their song as a ring tone on my phone :)
 
I er... am confused by the removal of two comments just now on the nomination.
 
Zoe
Which nomination? /s
 
8:19 PM
@Scratte wait... so this is why the username rings a bell
 
@OlegValter Congrats.. congrats to BalusC, Oh congrats.. :)
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier don"t worry, the comments were flagged as "no longer needed", not R/A
 
@Scratte ugh, I am not a fan
 
trying not to add too much comments, so we're not going to miss the abusive ones.
 
@OlegValter I am.. I like that song so much, I sometimes wait picking up the phone until the end of the song :)
 
8:21 PM
tbh it is a great song
the sheer, raw power of the "not giving a f***" exhuding from it all is off the charts
 
Even if it didn't exude much else :p
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier 4.. were removed.
 
yeah, it appears they were flagged as NLN
 
comments are ephemerous by nature. If you want something to persist, nominate yourselves😀
 
Right.. so when if one is elected, one can un-delete them? :D
 
8:27 PM
well, I think nomination comments are deleted when election starts. Not sure if we can undelete them or even read them as mods...
 
Hmm.. that seems strange.
The comments on the questionnaire wasn't deleted. The one from last year.
 
After the election starts, we print folks' nomination posts on small metal disks and give them to crows for safe keeping.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre They aren't deleted, you just have to switch to the nomination tab
 
to this day, that is quite possibly the greatest perk of nomination I've ever heard about, hope it's true
 
8:29 PM
The nominations are however locked from getting more comments
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier You don't think that contributing a lot of useful content should earn one any slack? I think that's all people are getting at.
 
ah I always forget that.
 
I guess we're going to skip the primary this year.
And maybe even the election :D
 
@Zoe I see your claim about dark mode, and I raise you criticism of vi.
 
8:31 PM
If there aren't enough candidates nominations stay open a week longer
 
Zoe
@CodyGray I see your criticism of vi and raise you criticism of DOS :p
 
@Nick Are two enough?
 
No
three is though
 
if anything, the fact that nobody else has nominated yet means that literally all humans who've seen it were in agreement with the nomination enough not to immediately want to counter it (:
(subtweeting @Jean-FrançoisFabre here)
 
Elections are games :p, people play them
 
8:33 PM
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Most users have less then 3000 reputations points
 
Zoe
@Nick You know the game and you're gonna play it
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Zoe is not annoying enough
 
That sounds like a solid candidate for moderation, yes
I'm pretty sure I'd raise like three revenge nominations, if annoying-ness is a criterion :P
 
@Zoe Wait, people like DOS?
 
When experimenting with edit colors, yes.
 
Zoe
8:37 PM
@CodyGray Dunno
 
Don't look now, but, there are operating systems that allow you even more colors.
 
@Zoe Clearly.
Heh.
Already got some upvotes on that Q&A.
As usual, the answer is: "history".
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE oh my goodness, when reading your question, I actually had a hunch it was related to the VGA buffer!!!
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE I recommend this series of videos from the 8 bit guy: youtube.com/watch?v=Tfh0ytz8S0k
 
8:39 PM
Not related to VGA at all. :-) It's a CGA thing.
 
@Nick Has he ever done a Part 3 about the actual topic of discussion here?
 
What I call VGA buffer, is a special address that's reserved and used as a buffer to write to when in some kernel?
 
?
Do you mean... video memory?
 
@CodyGray Basically covered in part 2 :p
 
8:41 PM
@CodyGray os.phil-opp.com/vga-text-mode it might be very basic for folks who are actually into that, but I've been reading this laterly
 
@Nick Ah, OK. I was misled by the title. I've seen those, but it's been several years ago.
 
and that is basically my understanding of that thing, it's possible I name it very wrongly, but it seems like the same thing that's talked about
 
You know, I've been thinking. What would make election season more dramatic? Recall votes. One (or more) existing moderator(s) are randomly selected to be eligible for recall. If there are enough votes, the end. Checks and balances and what not. It's worked for California. What could go wrong?
 
Ah, yeah. Just, this is only VGA because of backwards-compatibility.
@IanCampbell I've heard a bit of complaining about that from California folks.
Something about it costing nearly half a billion dollars.
To change nothing.
 
Half a billion dollars!?
 
8:44 PM
So... you know... if there aren't enough people running in the election to get the required seats + 1 candidates, such that the election fails... does that mean I have to shut down SO? :D
 
Cheaper than a new sports team?
 
The state estimated official administration costs were $276 million. If you factor in how much was spent on the campaigns by both sides, the estimate gets very close to $500 million.
 
Out of curiosity: What if there are only two candidates and two positions? Do both immediately get the diamond?
 
@Catija Please do :p
 
@Catija Nah. Just convert existing mods to candidates until the numbers are good.
 
8:45 PM
@Someone_who_likes_SE I'm pretty sure 3 nominees are required to proceed with the election.
 
... selection algorithm to be announced.
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE No. Elections have to be competitive. (that's the required seats + 1 bit)
 
But you could probably wait for an answer from Catija, who actually knows how this stuff works.
^^ There ya go!
 
Technically, if we don't have three candidates by Monday, the nomination period will get extended by a week. So we have at least 10 days before it all comes crumbling down.
 
So what's this little rumbling sensation and occasional falling rock that I see?
 
8:48 PM
@Catija lol, this evoked a very clear picture of us all being there in ten days, powerless in front of the mighty SO Servers shutting down the sites one service after the other, grinding the whole programming world to a halt while meteors fall from the sky in apocalyptic spectacle
 
Now I just have to contemplate whether people would rather see what that actually looks like - or just nominate in the election.
 
I guess I can just say "I'll nominate if nobody else does"
 
(if it's unclear to the reader, this is largely a speculative joke)
 
Now people are guaranteed to!
 
largely
 
8:51 PM
Yeah, definitely speculative. It's obvious that most people would prefer to watch the world burn, rather than try to fix it.
 
We're learning that from experience
 
@Catija Your candidate score is 8/40.
 
I'm guessing I'm missing some required badges and I sure as heck don't have enough rep. :D
 
I think Catija cannot nominate :)
 
{crepes}
 
8:52 PM
what is the candidate score for 4548692
 
@OlegValter The candidate score for user Catija is 8 (out of 40). The user is missing these required badges: Civic Duty, Strunk & White.
 
Hey, same as me!
what is my candidate score
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE You are not eligible to nominate yourself in the election as you do not have at least 3000 reputation. You are also missing the required badges: Convention, Strunk & White. Your candidate score is 9 (out of 40).
 
Y'all don't want me to be a mod - I don't even understand most of the questions asked here.
 
Is that a requirement?
 
8:53 PM
I don't think Catija should be a mod ;P
 
Well an awful lot of them are illegible
 
@Catija No one does.. except Jon Skeet ;)
 
@Catija what makes you think we do? :)
 
@Nick True, @ElectionBot help isn't really legible. (I hope I didn't trigger ElectionBot.)
 
I think what I've taken away from this conversation is that there is a switch on the wall at SE headquarters labeled "Stack Overflow", which Catija could flip to turn off everything.
 
8:54 PM
Most questions on SO aren't understandable.
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE you wish!
 
@AdrianMole Some plzsendtehcodez is understandable, only it's so lazy people click the down arrow and go away.
@ElectionBot eek
 
That's why SO mods get robotic enhancements to help them moderate
 
@IanCampbell Didn't Adrian Mole already show us the switch? Or was that just for Meta?
 
There's a similar one but it's a different colour.
 
8:56 PM
Apparently I saw that post before, because I upvoted it, but I have no recollection.
 
That's the meta one, the main one is orange, obviously! :)
 
Brown?
 
@IanCampbell It was a bad day that day, you probably purged it from your memory
 
@IanCampbell That just gives you the chance to enjoy it again, for the first time.
 
8:56 PM
@CodyGray bright red, of course
 
I think the degree to which I don't understand them is best explained as - for me, they may as well be speaking a Russian - it's not a language I speak and it's written in characters that have no meaning to me.
 
I saw a question posted here in Russian yesterday.
 
Y'all at least read cyrilic.
 
@Catija Yes.. that's how it look like when it's tech you don't know :) That's what happens when I look at R :)
 
Nope, nor cyrillic ;)
 
8:57 PM
I most certainly do not read cyrilic. I just recognize it enough to choose the Russian SO autocomment.
 
You learn a bit of Russian when you spend some time on the internet.
 
@Nick And here I was worried that the capitalization would be what got picked on :P
 
neither do I...
 
I'm very relaxed with capitalization :D
 
Zoe
^ can confirm
 
8:58 PM
I thought about capitalizing it, but I just went with the flow. Peer pressure.
 
Oleg, isn't Russian your native lang?
 
You must struggle in SQL, then :P
 
@Dharman When you get your final, "meh", privilege, you'll understand the significance of that remark.
... shouldn't be too long.
 
@Catija Nah, the capitalization in that is 100% optional
 
@Nick I'm pretty sure that's not true for table names?
 
8:59 PM
which makes it possible to write stuff like sElEcT * FrOm UsErS
 
@Catija Just give tables lower case names :p
 
and this is the greatest feature I've ever found in a language
 
@Catija Depends on the database :) For Oracle it makes no difference :)
 
Like, internally we have PostId but it won't recognize postid or PostID :/
 
@Dharman yes? :) I can't read it either way - especially the tech-talk
 
8:59 PM
I try to avoid SQL anyway, not a fan
 

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