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9:00 PM
@VLAZ No.. because the next day they're burned :O
 
@KevinB Interesting. I haven't dug into tiebreaking procedures.
 
the size of each diamond, however, is greatly reduced. half powers for everyone?
 
@Ethan This is the 2020 election run. In Round 2 you see Tschallacka get eliminated and Exhaused goes to 155, meaning 155 people picked him first and voted for nobody else. Thus they have no further say in the election
 
@Dharman Well with comments locked on nominations after the nomination phase (not sure how I feel about that but at the moment it seems like a bad idea), you kind of limit how people can respond, when such an action is clearly designed as a way to game the system. It may be within the rules but it's certainly not within the spirit
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier half of infinity is still infinity.
 
9:03 PM
I think I would argue that a grace period of a few days after nomination (where comments are still open but nomination closed) before election could alleviate the situation.
 
Zoe
@Nick except the child metas (follows the main site), and meta.SE (dictatorship :p)
 
I'd argue the child metas are part of their parent sites
 
@DanielWiddis i think the "tiebreaker" bit there wasn't important. just the last run period, as if a 2nd candidate isn't chosen yet, that means there's at least 1 other candidate that hasn't been eliminated (mean it's still possible for someone's 5th choice to not be eliminated
 
I never thought that I will once vote for such guys... only to prevent the other 3 to win.
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Or just leave the comments open during the election
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tdy
9:05 PM
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier agreed, this seems most sensible
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Seems fair to me. Nominations -> 1-2 days -> Elections.
 
not counting those who chose one of the top two as their 5th choice, ofc
 
@RyanM that could also work, but does not amount to the same, as folks will be voting already
 
@KevinB If the 2nd candidate hasn't been chosen yet there are at least 3 candidates not eliminated, and thus no more than 3 candidates eliminated, so it's impossible for anyone lower than your 4th to be considered at this stage. Am I missing something?
 
Ryan's suggestion is also sensible. But I still think a small delay before the election is good.
 
9:08 PM
Well, my first choice is actually nearly acceptable.
 
Can someone provide an example of STV where one candidate wins the seat right in the 1st or 2nd round and has the remaining votes distributed before additional candidates are eliminated?
 
@RyanM The problem as I understand it is that the nomination posts are locked
and thus comments under those posts are locked, too
 
@Dharman You are my 2nd
@Dharman I can not say to you, why only the 2nd, because I would risk a democratic suspension with it.
 
if 3 are eliminated, it could have been any of my 6 choices, including the 1st 2nd and 3rd. if that were the case, then my 4th 5th and 6th choices would be in play for the 3 person runoff. Regardless fo what happens after that, the 6th choice still can't be used, but the 5th could be, if both the 6th and 4th have already been eliminated.
 
Zoe
... or you can just vote however you see fit and no one is really gonna care
 
9:10 PM
@bad_coder Say everyone votes for the #1 candiate first. They are selected instantly. Next round, the votes are split. #1 has excess votes, say about half of them. So they only get 0.5 of each person's vote, and the other 0.5 is distributed to everyone's 2nd place choice.
 
@bad_coder OK forget that, round 5 in the 2020 election had that scenario happening.
 
@RyanM I like how you made that sound so much better than when I said that :)
 
@peterh You don't have to say who your choices are and you don't need to justify them. I am happy that you have considered voting for me even as a second choice
 
that makes my brain hurt,
 
@DanielWiddis yes I was getting confused about that.
 
Zoe
9:11 PM
@KevinB STV works in mysterious ways
 
At the end of the day the most likely scenario is that your 1.000000 (precisely) vote will be split fractionally between the two winners.
 
unless you didn't vote for either of them at all
 
in ElectionBot Development, 12 hours ago, by VLAZ
@OlegValter 1. Vote 2. <magic happens> 3. Somebody is elected. The same as any other election system, right?
 
@KevinB in which case, 0 votes (exhausted). Or if you only voted for 1 of the winners they get your whole vote.
 
Zoe
Checks out :p
 
9:12 PM
@DanielWiddis the split of excess votes on winning candidates work by summing fractions? (That's interesting.)
 
@bad_coder Bottom line: the site handles the math. Just rank the candidates. :D
 
Not sure if a relevant feature request would be more at home on MSO or MSE
 
about STV?
or the election in general
 
@DanielWiddis I had heard some talk about "strategic voting" but I'm probably overthinking this. Best just to rank linearly by order of preference.
 
@KevinB the election in general
sorry, been away from the chatroom for a minute while typing up a post
 
9:14 PM
probably mse
 
@bad_coder I suspect the only strategy would be to completely leave off anyone you truly didn't want a backup vote, as opposed to ranking them.
 
@bad_coder "Best just to rank linearly by order of preference." - Yes, because if your preference doesn't make it then your votes will still get used that way :p
 
@TylerH So, I just tested it, and they don't appear to be locked: I can edit my nomination statement, and the edit (updating my stats) went through.
 
A thought i had was in elections without primaries, include a 3-7 day period of... stewing
 
@DanielWiddis Wasn't there a max of choosing 3 candidates in past years? :|
 
Zoe
9:15 PM
@RyanM Wasn't there some talk about them being open for like 3 hours?
 
@RyanM oh that's annoying
so it's just comments that are blocked
 
@Zoe I think that was a caching thing maybe?
 
@bad_coder Yep. Which would have been effectively the same thing with 5 candidates.
 
Zoe
No, doesn't really look like it
 
but in the end, including a period of time for people to leave comments and whatnot only really affects those who are likely to participate in that back and forth
 
9:17 PM
I think there's an important group of users who would read such comments at the very least
 
@DanielWiddis do the fractions change if I choose more candidates? Like 1 vote / num chosen candidates?
 
@Zoe Sorry, I probably misled you. My page said that the election didn't start for 3 hours, so I theorised that's how long the edit window is. But then the election had actually started, so my guess goes out the window.
 
It's important to be able to ask some questions of each candidate outside of the prescribed mod Q&A set
 
Zoe
ah ^^"
 
@bad_coder If you choose only one candidate your vote will never be fractionally split. It'll count 1 or 0.
 
9:17 PM
even if they don't answer them, it provides something of an answer
 
I think there is too, but, my concern is if that group is large enough to have an impact on the election... particularly if those comments are going to be hid when its time for the election phase
 
@bad_coder No, your preferred candidate among the remaining candidates will always receive as much of your vote as needed to allow them to win, if possible.
 
@TylerH I mean, you already didn't get an answer for all the questions inside the prescribed mod Q&A set...
 
@DanielWiddis So, each voter is a bit?
 
@VLAZ The way I like to think of it is: "your vote counts for your 1st choice, unless they don't need your vote because either it's excess or they're eliminated. then your vote goes to your 2nd choice".
 
9:21 PM
@RyanM but what if a candidate wins off-the-bat in the first round... How is it decided which voters choices go to the 2nd or remain on the 1st? That's where fractions made sense, in case of an early win.
 
@DanielWiddis "unless they don't need your entire vote", "then the remaining fraction of your vote goes"
 
@RyanM Yeah, that's the technical part. But it's "effectively the same">
 
@DanielWiddis I'm going into a completely different direction here. If each voter can be represented as a bit, can we then turn that into a program by voting? Is voting Turing complete? Can we make a truly democratic programming language that operates by votes?
Note, that's not entirely serious but amusing to think about.
 
@VLAZ Can you vote on an infinitely long tape? :)
 
I think it's slightly different, because of what @bad_coder said: it's not as though some of the voters' votes get passed on but others don't.
 
9:23 PM
If there are 100 voters and 90 voters picks Alice as their nr. 1. Then how much of their fractions go to Bob or Bill?
 
@DanielWiddis If you consider all of humanity (including future generations) as potential voters, then yes.
 
@RyanM In reality yes, the system works with "keep factors". For practical purposes there's not much difference in "keeping 80%" of 100% of your voters, or "keeping 100% of 80% of your voters". 20 votes go elsewhere. :)
 
Ok, my democratic duty is done. Good luck to all the candidates!!
 
@bad_coder Each candidate has a "keep factor" - the fraction of their votes needed to win. So if a candidate's "keep factor" is 0.7, say, then 0.3 of all of that candidate's votes get passed on to their next choice.
 
@RyanM ok, it makes sense. I had to ask in order to cast an informed vote.
 
9:25 PM
@Scratte to win with 100 voters, 3 candidates, and 2 spots you need 34 votes. Alice keeps 34 of her 90 votes. All 90 voters have 34/90 of that vote counting and have 56/90 of their vote applied to their second choice.
 
All the explanations about how STV work sounds to me like probably non-programmers hear me and other programmers talk.
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@DanielWiddis That's odd. What if 50 voters voted for Alice and 48 for Bob and 2 for Bill?
Does Bill then get a fraction of the votes over 34 votes still?
 
@Scratte Same thing. Alice is elected, and in the next round, Bob and Bill compete for the 2nd spot which requires one of them getting 34 votes. Alice keeps 34/50 of her 50 votes and 16/50 of her votes are transferred to the 2nd place person.
Since Bob already had 48 before the transfer, he'd win tho :)
 
@DanielWiddis "The next round".. thank you :D I got it :)
 
Also isn't it Alice, Bob, and Charlie? :D
 
9:31 PM
I don't know Charlie. So I picked Bill :)
 
Bill was already elected once.
 
Zoe
@DanielWiddis Depends on which post you just read about blockchain :p
@CodyGray oh no, the lizard
 
The very same
 
@DanielWiddis And Eve trying to modify votes by intercepting the encrypted communications?
 
@RyanM Shhh, don't tell everyone what I'm doing!
 
9:34 PM
@Nick Yes, but we don't know who will nominate until they do. Questions may arise (as happens every election) that are specific to a candidate
 
..Still don't understand why it's only 34 to win out of 100. But I think maybe reading an article will help with that.
 
not to mention people may request clarification about something that is included in a candidate's nomination post
 
I more meant, we can assume if they don't answer the prescribed questions they certainly won't answer the unprescribed ones
 
@Scratte I don't think that's quite accurate, FWIW. The exact number you need depends on how many votes end up exhausted. It could easily be >34.
 
@Nick Is that true? People who won't take prescription drugs won't take non-prescription ones?
 
9:36 PM
@Nick You can't know that for sure. Maybe they went hiking in the woods. Been gone for 6 weeks. Came back a few hours ago and rushed to nominate..
 
Well one of the things about assumptions... is that they're not assurities :p
 
@RyanM That's why I picked the 50 and 48 and 2..
Because they can each have 34 votes.. and Bill be sitting with 32..
 
Poor Bill.
 
@Scratte For 2 positions and 3 candidates, the top 2 need to have more votes than the bottom 1. x + x + y = 100 and x > y.
 
@CodyGray Maybe he didn't have a rainbow avatar
 
9:38 PM
If x is 33 y could be 34.
 
But he can literally change colors!
 
Zoe
Woo, rainbow! :p
@CodyGray Chameleons are lizards?
 
yes, chameleons are lizards.
 
@Zoe Please tell me you're joking
 
@DanielWiddis Oh!.. Thanks.. now I feel kind of stupid :)
 
9:39 PM
Not as stupid as someone who doesn't know that chameleons are lizards, surely?
 
@DanielWiddis oh, good point... yeah, you're right. I hadn't thought about it that way.
actually, you could win with 33 first-choice votes, because the leftover votes from the first-place candidate would break the tie.
 
@CodyGray Maybe Norway is too cold for education
 
@RyanM it's a bit more complicated with fractions (to sixth decimal place) and some odd +1 offsets here and there, but that's the basic feature.
 
@RyanM But they would have to all count fully.
 
@Nick No such thing? Whenever it's too cold to go outside, you can do education instead.
 
9:41 PM
Maybe nowadays with all those Zooms and Skypes
 
Actually, wait, no, it can be a lot less.
Alice gets 98 first-choice votes, Bob + Bill each get 1. The tie between Bob and Bill will be broken by the voters who chose Alice first, and one of them will get elected.
 
@RyanM Yep.
 
@RyanM Why stop there? 100% vote for Alice and then it gets decided from the second choices
 
@RyanM Yes.. and the second choice is a fraction of the vote from all those 98 voters.
 
@Nick Oh yeah, that's also true.
 
Zoe
9:43 PM
@Nick Nah, we just don't need to cram every species tree :p
 
Well you do have a lot of trees there
 
@Nick If I understand it correctly, you only get one vote, but you can get it split between candidates.
 
Zoe
@Nick Sure, but wouldn't make it true
 
I wonder if it's too cold for lizards?
 
Zoe
@Nick and snow, and adorable foxes who pounce around in said snow. need I say more? Zoe 1, Nick 0 :P
 
9:45 PM
@CodyGray I don't recall ever seeing a lizard in the wild here
although I have seen a wild snake
 
Are snakes lizards?
 
For sure...
Lizards without legs
 
@Nick comments luckily are not just for clarification questions, but also for contributory remarks that add value :-)
 
The Mexican blind lizard (Anelytropsis papillosus) is a species of legless lizard in the family Dibamidae, and the only species in the genus Anelytropsis. It is endemic to Mexico. They look like Amphisbaenia, but are in fact, only distantly related. == Etymology == Although early authors did not discuss the etymology, the generic name, Anelytropsis, is presumed to be based on the Greek words: ana = up opon; elytron = shield; ops = eye, in reference to the eyes which are concealed by ocular scales. The trivial name or specific epithet, papillosus, is Latin and refers to the minute papillae present...
 
Zoe
9:46 PM
that just looks like a worm
 
Incredible how much less creepy it makes something when it has legs
 
@TylerH Good response!
@CodyGray Curses, foiled by the biologist
 
Seems like you got foiled by the fox, too
With that unsourced screenshot...
 
On the contrary, it looks like the fox agreed
snakes == simplified lizards
 
@DanielWiddis Possible example: Your #1 voted candidate is elected in a landslide. Your #2, #3, and #4 are eliminated. It's now down to your #5 and #6. So, at least 5 selections can matter.
 
9:48 PM
I wonder what a "simplifed" fox looks like.
 
Zoe
@Nick :newspaper2:
 
@CodyGray A wolf
 
Zoe
hey!
 
A "simple" fox
 
@Makyen Daaaayyang.
 
9:49 PM
That one's only been "partially" simplified.
 
@Makyen I stand corrected!
 
@CodyGray I see your partially simplified fox... I raise you:
 
What do you call a fox with no legs?
 
You can't see its legs! you don't know they exist!
 
9:51 PM
Doesn't matter what you call it, it won't come to you anyway!
 
@RyanM What if everyone who had Alice as their first choice didn't specify a 2nd choice?
 
@Makyen We get a duel?
 
Alice gets elected twice
 
@Makyen Then the tie doesn't get broken, I believe.
Unrelated:
Congratulations to @Nick on being the first voter in the election :-)
 
Unless he voted before the election officially opened
 
9:54 PM
@RyanM uh, 1st voter was a user before Shree who was the 2nd.
 
@bad_coder I was using the Constituent badge award history, which admittedly might have some delays and/or batching. How did you check?
 
@RyanM clicked back through the history after getting mine.
 
Webcam
 
@bad_coder this is what I see (currently on page 42 but that is likely to change shortly).
 
@RyanM It is almost certainly batched given the individual timestamps (from mousing over the "1 hour ago"s, but yes I see the same thing
 
9:58 PM
Maybe they're not actually ordered and it's picking arbitrarily out of the batch of awards.
 
I mean, the batch must be ordered somehow :p
 
@RyanM that's what I'm also seeing right now. Thing is, timestap of award is exactly the same (script ran in batch) the sorting is random for tied timestamps.
 
i dunno if i'd say it's random
 
I didn't see it in that order just 10 minutes ago...
 
@Nick Arbitrarily based on what the SQL server decides to return? :-)
 
9:59 PM
arbitrarily sorted, maybe
 
Nah, I don't think so
 
or unknown
 
Can someone sanity check my count? That's 50 (60?) voters per page?
 
I'm happy accepting first place
 
but if it were "random', that's something that would have been done by design
you don't get random accidentally
 
10:00 PM
@bad_coder I got 60
 
@RyanM I think that's it, I lost count after 50 something...
 
use the dev console
it has jquery
 
Use the dev console, it lets you click your way to 60
 
Methodology: copy the page into an editor, search "for an election", check result count
 
10:03 PM
Reminds me of the old joke where the mathematician counted the legs of the sheep and divided by 4.
 
just use jquery 😈
 
@VLAZ they should totally drop that and use jQuery.
 
what is Meek STV?
 
Meek STV is a version of STV with a more fine-tuned transfer of surplus (excess) votes. Please see OpaVote's in-depth explanation of Meek STV for more info.
 
Why is it so Meek?
 
10:07 PM
because it wasn't bold enough to be Scottish, duh
 
Interrupting to bring you this important message: The election is happening at the moment! I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@ElectionBot /s/answer commonly-asked questions/hardly contain my excitement
 
Keep talking and nobody explodes.
 
10:22 PM
what is my candidate score
 
@KevinB Your candidate score is 36 (out of 40). You are missing these badges: Copy Editor, Marshal, Refiner, Steward.
 
So, reading the elections questionnaire I have found out that there is now a special code of conduct just for pronoun intrigue. That makes me sad.
 
That was announced a couple of years back.
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Q: What does the Code of Conduct say about pronouns?

Catija Please leave any feedback or questions about this FAQ on this other post. Two weeks ago, we updated The Code of Conduct to directly address concerns over pronoun usage. We tried to anticipate likely questions, but… missed the mark by quite a lot. Based on Gareth McCaughan’s excellent post,...

I agree it's sad that we need an entire policy to say "treat people with respect, and call them what they wish to be called".
 
What is my candidate score?
 
@AnnZen Your candidate score is 38 (out of 40). You are missing these badges: Investor, Steward.
 
10:25 PM
Apparently being in a SO election is a good way to grow your LinkedIn network
 
Anecdotally, I feel like I've gotten a few extra votes on some of my posts since nominating.
 
Up or down?
 
so it promotes targeted voting
(which isn't good up or down)
 
@CodyGray Up
 
Ah, well, enjoy that while you can! ;-)
 
10:27 PM
@KevinB Or it promotes visibility of the candidates' posts and hopefully unbiased decisions about their quality
I've only gotten obvious serial upvotes once, and it wasn't in this election.
(they were later reversed)
 
@CodyGray haaaaa. (as I watch the score drop before my eyes...wasn't me)
 
@ElectionBot: What is my candidate score?
 
@einpoklum Your candidate score is 37 (out of 40). You are missing these badges: Investor, Marshal, Steward.
 
@CodyGray: I'd say, "treat people with respect, and don't drag them into intra-USA cultural infighting fads". But yes, it's from 2019. Luckily I did not stray into this particular minefield far enough to be referred to this document.
 
10:33 PM
@einpoklum I don't really think calling people what they want to be called is a fad. If I started calling you "Beatrice", you probably wouldn't like that, either. There are certainly some politics that led to and informed this, but you don't need to worry about that to actually follow the policy.
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Personally, I think the company did a poor job of announcing it, because they made it political when it shouldn't have been.
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@CodyGray: Somehow, few people outside the US seem to be making pronoun-picking statements. About the fad-ness - it's a matter of significance and emphasis. You wouldn't need special rules about not calling me Beatrice. Anyway, in my language, noun gendering is different than in English, making it all feel supremely weird.
 
English doesn't really have noun gendering.
 
Right, I should say, my language has noun gendering + pronouns are different.
 
What's different about the pronouns? You still have masculine and feminine pronouns for people, right?
 
10:56 PM
Fun Fact: 3000 Votes have already been cast...
(I use the Counter from the `Constituent` Page (gets updated about every [5-8] min), and started at 247600 (exactly 247489) and simply subtract that Nb from the "Awarded xxx times." Counter.)
https://stackoverflow.com/help/badges/1974?page=1
 
in SO Close Vote Reviewers, Feb 22 '19 at 15:37, by Madara Uchiha
@Zoe https://i.imgur.com/xouJJID.png #sorrynotsorry
 
this is absolutely adorable
 
Sorry mini-Mistake, the Counter started at 247589 (and not 247489)...
 
Interrupting to bring you this important message: The election is happening at the moment! I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@Machavity That laptop has... an antenna sticking out of it.
 
11:08 PM
this is absolutely amazing
 
At least you do not shy away from absolutes
 
not like some light-side force users
 
@CodyGray And the fox appears to be enjoying a fine white wine as well. Who drinks white wine while using a computer?
 
Well, everyone?
 
11:11 PM
Except the people who are currently drinking red wine. I guess there aren't too many people drinking two different wines simultaneously.
Except for all the people who drink rosé.
 
I don't drink wine. Because I ran out.
 
I drink amber colored drinks whilst computing.
 
wait, you make rosé by mixing the two other wines? /2
 
Not literally
 
@CodyGray Don't listen to this. Yes, you mix two wines. Specifically, Merlot and Cabernet Sauvignon.
:P
(joke is that these are both red wines)
 
11:13 PM
You can mix wines, for sure, but that's not literally how rosé is made.
Come on, don't be silly.
No one would mix Merlot with a Cab. Obviously, you mix a Merlot with Shiraz.
 
I heard somebody did that once and they were turned into a pumpkin.
 
Was that in the documentary about the girl with the glass slipper?
 
Yes. Many times people retell this true story, they leave out the subplot of the person who turned into a pumpkin which was then later turned into a vehicle.
 
Anyone from candidates to moderators did serve in the military?
 
@Cody Not wishing (too much) to butt in ... your "should've been a flag" reply was spot on! But I was trying to be 'new' and neutral, so I raised it in a chat room (I know I shouldn't, but ... meh?). (Can't see the comments any more - turns out JFF was right!) The other stuffs you gave me while I was 'away' can be put in the "conversational fluff" box.
 
11:18 PM
You mean, you don't wish to derail the conversation about wines?
 
@manro I'm a veteran. Not sure about any others.
 
Shiraz. Noting else will do.
 
You can see the comments just fine. You just have to go to the "Nomination" tab.
 
I tried. Noting else.
 
That "conversational fluff" box is getting quite full
 
11:19 PM
BEST LUCK FOR ALL
 
@AdrianMole What? You can't see any of the comments on the nomination page?
 
@DanielWiddis did you participate in the real war operations?
 
I'll look again ... BRB.
 
@manro Depends on your definition of "real". :)
 
Plot twist: none of it is real
 
11:20 PM
Further plot twist: technically it's not war either.
 
@DanielWiddis Iraq, Libya...?
 
I think... he is older than someone who served in 2011
 
@CodyGray Nope! I click the "Nominations" tab and no comment is visible. Not even how many are invisible.
 
@manro, => yep: Daniel Widdis:
"In the real world I have 20 years of experience in the military, leading and managing people with diverse backgrounds. In these decades, I have often been called on to mediate conflict and present an unbiased approach, listening carefully to both sides and taking the time to investigate the facts."
(From their Answers to the Questionnaire...)
 
@manro I spent two 6-month deployments on ships in the Persian gulf and one year-long deployment on the ground in Iraq.
 
11:21 PM
@AdrianMole Did you try clicking on "Show 28 more comments"?
 
That link isn't there! (If it was, I would have clicked it ... d'oh!)
 
It's there on my machine in Incognito mode. So, it must be there on your machine.
 
Check userscripts and cache, fine for me
 
@DanielWiddis you are the Men 💪 i hope, that you didn't kill any peaceful arabs
 
I don't see comments in the "election" tab that's linked but if I click on "nomination" phase up top I can see them
 
11:23 PM
5 mins ago, by Cody Gray
You can see the comments just fine. You just have to go to the "Nomination" tab.
 
@manro I didn't shoot anybody. My job was helping deploy and train people to use jamming equipment.
 
@CodyGray A very minor technicality ... actually, it is there.
D'oh!
 
@AdrianMole Did you finally put down the glass of Shiraz?
 
Haven't had any Shirazes for too long.
 
@CodyGray Two glasses.
A pair, if you will.
 
11:25 PM
@chivracq it's nice, i raise him in my list
 
Why aren't there pumpkin wines?
 
Hello, @manro. Will you still vote for me, even though you can't?
 
@CodyGray Because grapes aren't scary
 
Note: Fighting wars is not part of the job of a Stack Overflow moderator.
 
11:26 PM
What about the wars in the comments
 
@CodyGray Make love, not war?
 
@DanielWiddis where i can vote for you?
 
If you have at least 150 reputation, you can rank the candidates in your preferred order in the election. If you want to make an informed decision on who to vote for, you should read the candidates' answers to the questionnaire, and also look at examples of their participation on Meta and how they conduct themselves.
 
^^ that link
 
@CodyGray but moderator must be strong
 
11:27 PM
but please don't vote just based on military service :)
 
consider who of the candidates can do the best job as moderator
 
@manro Why do you say this?
 
@CodyGray Is that the grapist?
 
@AdrianMole where i can vote for you?
 
11:27 PM
Please read my previous message...
 
@manro You'll just have to wait!
 
@AdrianMole how long?
 
I don't know.
 
Is there a userscript that allows us to vote for Adrian Mole?
 
@CodyGray man after military service has a character) moderator must have it too
 
11:30 PM
Why would military service give one a character that others are lacking?
 
@manro I have a cunning plan that will guarantee my success ... when then time is right.
 
People can have character without military service
 
@AdrianMole If it's to nominate a minute before nominations close, I'm afraid to tell you that your plan has been stolen.
 
@Nick yep, but army makes us stronger
 
Meh - cheap!
 
11:31 PM
What about navy? Too wishy washy?
 
Lots of things do...
@DanielWiddis Nice.
 
@AdrianMole stage a coup d'état? :)
 
In what way does being in the army make you stronger?
Like... physically stronger?
 
And the air force is too airy fairy
 
@AdrianMole mister bean 😌
 
11:32 PM
@OlegValter Nah! Bring the whole site down and reboot with myself as the only vote reciever!
 
@CodyGray and mentally
 
Because you're hardened to death?
 
How to spell "reciever"?
 
Because you're trained to obey commands without thinking?
 
@AdrianMole you got my vote ;)
 
11:33 PM
@CodyGray Because you have to deal with idiotic people who work for you on a daily basis. ;)
 
@DanielWiddis Dude, if that's the case, I am in the army of all armies.
 
@AdrianMole not like that
 
I like Ionic dialects. Iron can be ionic but its not possible for ions to be ironic.
... probably.
 
@CodyGray it is army) soliders must think like one organism
 
That sounds like being a sheep... I like independence
 
11:36 PM
@AdrianMole english humour)
@Nick you can be a sniper
 
I once published a paper in which I (well, my chiefs did) challenged Linus Pauling's definition of "ionic" versus "covalent" bonds.
 
They are more independent
 
... all I did was gather the facts.
 
@ElectionBot, after they have voted, any Chance you could send some "trusted community members" to handle the `Suggested Edits` Queue...?
Chatting about Chameleons/Foxes/Pronouns/Wine/Pumpkins/etc is nice and funny, but I have some Edit that has already been waiting for 6 hours and is still waiting to be handled...:
https://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/30111161
 
But I can be independent while still growing strong and being a valuable member of society... Without joining the military services, so why would I?
 
11:39 PM
@manro In all seriousness, let me clarify a few things. First, the election is for a moderator on SO. While I do think serving in the military gave me some interpersonal skills that I could use I think that's only a tiny piece of the puzzle so please consider other candidates. Second, I served in the navy and mostly thought about how not to melt down the reactor on my sub.
 
@DanielWiddis Are the skills required to prevent meltdowns on reactors transferable to preventing meltdowns among Stack Overflow users? ...maybe!
 
@RyanM Actually so. Immediate actions to stabilize things, root cause analysis to figure out the best long term response. :)
 
@Nick its late, continue tomorrow
Bye 👋
To all
 
o/
 
Bye manro
 
11:46 PM
@DanielWiddis Good answer :-)
 
Interrupting to bring you this important message: The election is happening at the moment! I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@Nick woof woof... long time no speak... don't suppose there's popcorn going? :p
 
@chivracq 'tis has nothing to do with the election - the number of pending suggested edits has been at the review queue peak capacity (500 at a given time) for quite a while. Blame the ones who keep sending trivial and/or just horrible edits to the queue at a rate of a machine gun.
 
6 hours is, sadly, very little time compared to some edits I've seen in the queue...
 
Sure, you can have the rest of the bag, I've just said goodnight to the wolf and it's late so... pours bag of popcorn into Jon's bowl
 
11:52 PM
On another Stack Exchange site, I recently had an edit approved after two weeks :-)
 
yeah, I had one of mine sit for 1.2 months for a tag wiki edit
 
@OlegValter You can blame that trash for me stopping reviewing suggested edits despite having done over 7000 at this point
 
@Nick \o/
 
@Oleg, yep, I know, I meant my Post as a "semi-Joke"..., but it worked, the Edit just got handled 2 min ago...

@Ryan, yep, 6h is indeed still "short", I usually have to wait [12-24]h before Edits get approved... (Reason I nearly never try anymore to edit Qt's, I post a Comment and "wait" until the @OP will "react"...)
 
@Nick yeah, it is just depressing. I reviewed only up to 1.3K before stopping (unless I freaking need to review to submit an edit for a bot because the queue is cluttered with utter <insert expletive here>...)
 
11:57 PM
And it being so bad didn't stop me getting called out on meta for rejecting too much (6505 rejections)
 
@chivracq of course it would - you got here a slice of the most active people on the site and linked directly to the review :) On a more serious tone, normal edit suggestions usually get approved in a day or two. There are some outliers that end up on the longer end of the approval schedule too:
 
@chivracq Last time I submitted an edit it took 5 days to get approved. And it wasn't a tag edit :)
@OlegValter Or.. testing user scripts ;P
 
@Scratte or that, yeah, how could I forget :)
 

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